Do you believe in the Devil?

Prawo Jazdy

After watching the news and seeing the peice about the young girl who was strangled by her step dad, I wondered if the Devil was as much around as God.

Do you believe the devil is around?

Daftendirekt

No.

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Jesus Wept

<Keyser Söze reference>

Photi

I've always sided with the faction which uphold the belief that he is buried in Killarney.

brummytom

What d'you mean by the devil?
The man with horns and a pitchfork or just an embodiment of evil?

biko

I find when talking to Christians that even people that really believe in god don't really believe in the devil.

AckwelFoley

Yes

Red Devils

*starts chant*

Mr. Razzcocks

devil lived :eek:

metaoblivia

No, but maybe I should start. I'd love to blame all the bad things I do on someone else. :pac:

fitz0

Didn't you get the memo? The Vatican got rid of him, bad for business or somesuch, right after limbo and going to hell for touching yourself, oh and hell, yeah thats gone too.

Banter Joe

Photi wrote: »

I've always sided with the faction which uphold the belief that he is buried in Killarney.

Whether or not he in fact rose again, rose again, and became Mary Harney is still much debated however.

Paddo81

Oh god.................er....

Mr.Obvious

I find the concept of a devil baffling.
Does the devil subscribe to his own beliefs, or does he just believe the exact opposite of god?
I mean, he's not an idiot, so he'd hardly believe the exact opposite of what god believes on absolutely everything.Surely there's some overlap. So if i dissagree on some issue with both god and the devil where does that leave me?

galwayrush

Yes, i've met her, she used to be married to my mate.

galwayrush

Seriously, if the devil's fate has been sealed from the start, why does he bother? it's like the theory of predestination being doomed from the start.:rolleyes:

Paddo81

He doesnt subscribe to, or believe in anything because hes a mythical character that ancient humans invented to personify evil.

galwayrush

Paddo81 wrote: »

He doesnt subscribe to, or believe in anything because hes a mythical character that ancient humans invented to personify evil.

Sorry, but that answer is way too sensible for the early part of this thread.;)

Professey Chin

Hail Satan!

Blood Orgy!!!!

Feckin woodland critters

BaconZombie

Are we talking about the Devil or Super Devil?

abouttobebanned

There's as much chance of there being a hell as there is of being a heaven. That is no chance.

irish_bob

Mr.Obvious wrote: »

I find the concept of a devil baffling.
Does the devil subscribe to his own beliefs, or does he just believe the exact opposite of god?
I mean, he's not an idiot, so he'd hardly believe the exact opposite of what god believes on absolutely everything.Surely there's some overlap. So if i dissagree on some issue with both god and the devil where does that leave me?

a fence sitting centrist , most likely a fianna failer and a fan of bertie ahern , good ol bertie one imagines could have gotten on well with both god and beelsebub

stovelid

I have no sympathy for him, regardless of his so-called wealth and taste.

galwayrush

He's got the best music though.:cool:

4zn76tysfajdxp

Mr.Obvious wrote: »

I find the concept of a devil baffling.
Does the devil subscribe to his own beliefs, or does he just believe the exact opposite of god?
I mean, he's not an idiot, so he'd hardly believe the exact opposite of what god believes on absolutely everything.Surely there's some overlap. So if i dissagree on some issue with both god and the devil where does that leave me?

What I've never understood about the devil, even when I was an adowwable widdle boy, is why he's given exactly what he would like (dominion over hell) by god for being a bastard.

"Lucifer, for defying My will, you shall be cast downwards to rule over hell ever more!"

"Oh n-Wait, what?"

"You are to rule hell as your own personal dungeon for standing against Me."

"Wow, really? That doesn't sound so bad."

"What?"

"Uhhh...nothing...Oh rats, an eternity of doing whatever I like in my own fiery kingdom. What a drag. "


Sorry for turning this post into a shitty stand-up routine, it's just that I've never understood that whole thing.

Neamhshuntasach

The British army convinced me that he does indeed exist.

Paddo81

galwayrush wrote: »

Sorry, but that answer is way too sensible for the early part of this thread.;)

Busted! Just thought I'd try nip this in the bud!

the_syco

You have to be christain to believe in the devil. As for the nuts who say that "something like the devil" was found in X book, well, Allah means god, and god is in the bible, so is Allah in the bible?

Mrmoe

He better exist, I sold my soul to him years ago and the check bounced, damn evil bastard.

The End Of Days

It exists. How else could you explin wrongs over rights or Obese people.

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/In Head

Iang87

abouttobebanned wrote: »

There's as much chance of there being a hell as there is of being a heaven. That is no chance.

hmmm i disagree.

Can you believe in one without beliveing in the other to those who do believe. Maybe not a dude who sticks pokers up your arse for eternity but ya a hell. Must be ruled by something then to ensure you dont get out of it. Guess that guy must be the devil. Once again thats provide you believe in that.




/logs off computer, grabs keys, drives fast, here come the atheists

mukki

all that god and devil stuff was made up to convice people that they have to behave the whole time...

i.e.
you can't kill your neighbour and move your fence into his lawn because you will burn in hell for eternity


but now we have the guards for that....

i.e.
you can't kill your neighbour and move your fence into his lawn because
1) forensics will find your DNA at the scene,
2) land registry have maps of his lawn,
3) and he might have a shotgun






so all the mumbo jumbo can be dropped now

Paddo81

mukki wrote: »

all that god and devil stuff was made up to convice people that they have to behave the whole time...

i.e.
you can't kill your neighbour and move your fence into his lawn because you will burn in hell for eternity


but now we have the guards for that....

i.e.
you can't kill your neighbour and move your fence into his lawn because
1) forensics will find your DNA at the scene,
2) land registry have maps of his lawn,
3) and he might have a shotgun






so all the mumbo jumbo can be dropped now

Hoo rah! The most sensible thing Ive heard today!

Iang87

yep definitely without doubt the first time i've ever seen mumbo jumbo written

Paddo81

You were supposed to be gone by now!

Kered75

If you read the Lisbon Treaty backwards you summon up the devil.:eek:

Dr_Phil

Prawo Jazdy wrote: »

Do you believe the devil is around?

Yes. Despite the fact that I used to consider myself as an atheist up until now.

One_Armed_Dwarf

As the great Tom Waits said

"don't you know there ain't no devil, there's just god when he's drunk"

philologos

Yes, I believe in Satan's existence. The father of all lies, deception, temptation and hatred in this world.

I understand that people will no doubt disagree with me on this one as per usual.

An Fear Aniar

Kered75 wrote: »

If you read the Lisbon Treaty backwards you summon up the devil.:eek:

It doesn't work since they amended it, now you have to read parts of 20 other treaties to get the same effect.

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Mr. Incognito

I don't believe in God but I believe in the Devil

Pic attached

K-Ren

It's divils I'm scared of.

Banter Joe

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I don't believe in God but I believe in the Devil

Pic attached

So that explains why the 'S' in HSE looks like a snake and the 'E' is made out of flames!

And H is....for Harney

An Fear Aniar

There is a devil though, for real. What Carl Jung called "the evil principle prevailing in this world". It's real, a real entity.

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D.Q

There is no such thing as the devil.

"put it on the list dougal"

Sam Vimes

Jakkass wrote: »

Yes, I believe in Satan's existence. The father of all lies, deception, temptation and hatred in this world.

I understand that people will no doubt disagree with me on this one as per usual.

I wholeheartedly agree. You've converted me. Where are the hot nuns at?

D.Q

"This poll will close on 10-12-2009 at 19.39"


Does the specific nature of that poll close worry anyone else?

Splendour

Jakkass wrote: »

Yes, I believe in Satan's existence. The father of all lies, deception, temptation and hatred in this world.

Ditto to Jackass's post. Satan will do his utmost to turn us away from God and sadly, he's doing a great job of it. Not forever though I might add...

WeeBushy

Yes, his name is Declan Moffat.

Mossy Monk

Hell is a guilty conscience.

Crann na Beatha

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Kipperhell

Splendour wrote: »

Ditto to Jackass's post. Satan will do his utmost to turn us away from God and sadly, he's doing a great job of it. Not forever though I might add...

I find it remarkable that anybody could believe in such a thing that has such an obvious past. You might as well believe in the Loch Ness monster. The biblical account of a devil is quite different from that of popular culture