Liver transplant teen leaves hospital bed for boozer

giftgrub

Unbelievable

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8220301.stm

A critically ill teenager being treated for liver failure after binge drinking left his hospital bed and went to the pub for a drink, it has been confirmed.

The father of Gareth Anderson, 19, is fighting to overturn NHS rules which mean his son has to be alcohol free for six months before a liver transplant.

But at the same time, a publican confirmed Garath went to her pub last Wednesday looking for a pint.

He was still in his slippers and with the needle from a drip in his hand.

Staff in the Old Moat Inn opposite the Ulster Hospital in Dundonald refused his order, alerted hospital staff who took him back.

The teenager from Newtownards, County Down, was transferred to Kings College Hospital in London on Friday and doctors have told his father, Brian, he may have as little as two weeks to live.

Mr Anderson Snr told the Press Association: "I don't know what he was thinking about, I don't think he knows.

"He said 'I don't know why I did it, I just walked out and walked across to the pub'."

Mr Anderson Snr said his son first told him he had a coke, but when pressed admitted trying to order alcohol first.

"I said 'What were you thinking about son' and he said ' I don't know, I just don't know'."

Mr Anderson said he was trying to get his son psychiatric help.

"I don't know what is going on in his head, he needs mental help as well."

Old Moat Inn manager Lorraine McMillan said : "He walked into the bar on Wednesday and the staff immediately recognised he was from the hospital - he had a needle in his hand, was wearing slippers and was still wearing his hospital name band.

"He was very young and didn't look very well. He asked for a pint or possibly a vodka. He was refused a drink and he said that was OK he would take a coke.

"I contacted the hospital and one of the staff walked him over and he was met at the door."

Legal action

The incident last week came before Mr Anderson finally told his son that he could be dead in a couple of weeks unless he got a liver transplant. He has since sworn never to drink again.

Gareth suffered acute liver failure earlier this month after drinking 30 cans of lager on a weekend binge-drinking session and had to be rushed to hospital.

Although it is common medical practice in the UK to insist that liver patients whose conditions are linked to alcohol abuse go without a drink for six months before going on the transplant waiting list, it is only a guideline and not a formal rule.

Mr Anderson insists the policy should apply to older patients with chronic alcoholism, not a teenager who has never before needed medical treatment for a drink related illness.

He plans legal action to get the rule overturned. He was expected to launch a judicial review in the High Court in Belfast this week, but may now have to take action in London following his son's transfer to King's College Hospital

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Gummy Panda

wait... isn't this the lad some people in AH were saying the 6-month rule should be override for?

jpfahy

Sad, but it would obviously be a waste of a liver.....

Wertz

Alcoholism is a terrible thing.

Overheal

He might as well have drank antifreeze; he just drowned whatever fleeting hope he had.

DublinWriter

I remember seeing the lad's father pleading for donors on the UTV and RTE Evening news last week.

He said that he didn't break the news to his son that he is terminally ill.

I personally think now would be a really good time to tell him.

My name is URL

DublinWriter wrote: »

I remember seeing the lad's father pleading for donors on the UTV and RTE Evening news last week.

He said that he didn't break the news to his son that he is terminally ill.

I personally think now would be a really good time to tell him.

I wondered about this, surely the fact that he's an adult means that doctors wouldn't keep him in the dark about his condition at the behest of his parents

questionable imo, still a tragic story though

kelle

My name is URL wrote: »

I wondered about this, surely the fact that he's an adult means that doctors wouldn't keep him in the dark about his condition at the behest of his parents

questionable imo, still a tragic story though

I'm not sure what the exact protocol is, but when my siblings and I were told our mother had terminal cancer, we asked that she not be told about her condition for a few days - a request all the nursing and medical staff on her ward carried out.

Four-Percent

Legend

PCPhoto

no offence to anyone related to this guy ...but if he's willing to search for a drink - from his hospital bed..... I think he doesnt deserve a transplant..... I dont think he'll change his ways - given that he knew he wasnt allowed to drink while on the transplant list.

* my guess is that the kid knows he's croaked and wants to go out partying - Sad !

Mimikyu

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Xavi6

He asked for a pint or possibly a vodka

Surely she would remember what a guy in slippers with a needle hanging out of his arm ordered, especially seeing as she ratted him out straight after.

procure11

Just wondering how he was able to leave the hospital in the first instance...I mean the nurses,security etc ..especially for someone with bandages and drips..:rolleyes:

ronbyrne2005

30 cans beer over a weekend caused that? porky pies i think.

He is just trying to emulate his fellow Northern Irish hero Georgie Best.

Gummy Panda

Xavi6 wrote: »

Surely she would remember what a guy in slippers with a needle hanging out of his arm ordered, especially seeing as she ratted him out straight after.

If I was the barman, i don't think i'd be listening too closely to the drinks order if a lad comes in wearing a patient gown, a needle in his arm and looks like he is out of a tango ad.

ScumLord

Didn't it happen last week before he was diagnosed?

Wertz

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

30 cans beer over a weekend caused that? porky pies i think.

Aye...looks like it's binging over several months or more likely years that has caused this IM(non medical)O...

trout

Jayziz. Makes a mockery of his dad saying he's not an alcoholic.

His family must be in bits, clearly the young lad isn't right.

Rebelheart

Before going hard on the guy, did anybody read the article. Here's an extract:

'The incident last week came before Mr Anderson finally told his son that he could be dead in a couple of weeks unless he got a liver transplant. He has since sworn never to drink again.'

This fits in with what his father, Brian Anderson, said on Newstalk during the week, namely that his son did not know he is at death's door but that he, the father, would have to tell him this week. DublinWriter clearly heard the same thing last week on UTV and RTÉ that I heard his father say on Newstalk last Thursday.

Ergo, condemning the guy for his behaviour without mentioning that he was not aware of the seriousness of his illness is a distortion of things.

ronbyrne2005

Rebelheart wrote: »

Before going hard on the guy, did anybody read the article. Here's an extract:

'The incident last week came before Mr Anderson finally told his son that he could be dead in a couple of weeks unless he got a liver transplant. He has since sworn never to drink again.'

This fits in with what his father, Brian Anderson, said on Newstalk during the week, namely that his son did not know he is at death's door but that he, the father, would have to tell him this week. DublinWriter clearly heard the same thing last week on UTV and RTÉ that I heard his father say on Newstalk last Thursday.

Ergo, condemning the guy for his behaviour without mentioning that he was not aware of the seriousness of his illness is a distortion of things.

Still, even if he didnt know, going out of hopital in your gown with drip in arm to a pub when you know youre sick is sure sign serious addiction. I personally think he should be given a chance and addiction counselling etc but not get a liver over somone with non drink related liver failure.

stovelid

If it were George Best or some other recalcitrant wife-beating alcoholic 'celebrity' we'd be falling over ourselves to offer pious homilies, fond memories and a new liver.

skelliser

Rebelheart wrote: »

Before going hard on the guy, did anybody read the article. Here's an extract:

'The incident last week came before Mr Anderson finally told his son that he could be dead in a couple of weeks unless he got a liver transplant. He has since sworn never to drink again.'

This fits in with what his father, Brian Anderson, said on Newstalk during the week, namely that his son did not know he is at death's door but that he, the father, would have to tell him this week. DublinWriter clearly heard the same thing last week on UTV and RTÉ that I heard his father say on Newstalk last Thursday.

Ergo, condemning the guy for his behaviour without mentioning that he was not aware of the seriousness of his illness is a distortion of things.

i dont accept this, he was in hospital for liver failure caused by drinking, im sure the doctors told him as much, now if i was in that position i wouldnt be heading across to the local looking for a pint now would i.

Novella

It doesn't matter if he didn't know the seriousness of his condition. He has liver failure. Unless he is absolutely stupid, he should know that liver failure can be a result of excessive alcohol consumption, of which he is a culprit. Also, no matter what was wrong with him, he was in hospital so I'd say he had a fair idea he's sick and shouldn't be out downing vodka!

SEPT 23 1989

Gareth you have raised the bar for all of us and i thank you

stepbar

I don't whether to laugh or cry at the first post.

orourkeda

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Gareth you have raised the bar for all of us and i thank you

My sentiments exactly.

TheZohanS

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Gareth you have raised the bar for all of us and i thank you

He has indeed, 'tis a pity that same bar is going to kill him.

bug

Livers for some, self-righteousness expressed by others.

An Fear Aniar

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Gareth you have raised the bar for all of us and i thank you

That's the dumbest comment I've seen in a long time. That guy is not long for this world, alcohol is just not funny when it's killing an alcoholic.

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Diabhal Beag

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Gareth you have raised the bar for all of us and i thank you

He has a serious addiction that will kill him sooner rather than later. What a ****ing stupid post. Imagine how his family must feel before some thick comment you think is funny.

PCPhoto

Rebelheart wrote: »

Before going hard on the guy, did anybody read the article. Here's an extract:

'The incident last week came before Mr Anderson finally told his son that he could be dead in a couple of weeks unless he got a liver transplant. He has since sworn never to drink again.'

This fits in with what his father, Brian Anderson, said on Newstalk during the week, namely that his son did not know he is at death's door but that he, the father, would have to tell him this week. DublinWriter clearly heard the same thing last week on UTV and RTÉ that I heard his father say on Newstalk last Thursday.

Ergo, condemning the guy for his behaviour without mentioning that he was not aware of the seriousness of his illness is a distortion of things.

I stand by my earlier condemnation

Orla K

Xavi6 wrote: »

Surely she would remember what a guy in slippers with a needle hanging out of his arm ordered, especially seeing as she ratted him out straight after.

He could have asked for a pint and when the barman refused he could have said "maybe some vodka".

Also I don't believe this guy didn't know the extent of what was happening. Liver failure = going to die and as well as that his father was all over the place telling everyone else he was going go die in two weeks. Did the father remove the tv, radio and internet from his son?

ShooterSF

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

He has a serious addiction that will kill him sooner rather than later. What a ****ing stupid post. Imagine how his family must feel before some thick comment you think is funny.

Ah come on it's not like the guy is dying of some non-self inflicted disease. He was a healthy human being who consumed copious amounts of alcohol to the point where he destroyed his liver. I feel sorry for his family in this.

bug

Jesus boards just swings from right to left.

I feel sorry for his family too.

But I'm not going to make or comment on a decision of whether he gets the chance to live or die based on what most people in this day and age consider to be an illness.

Jesus he is only a kid, even his dad, who I can assume knows him well, states he may have mental problems.

If I was a teen, thought I'd done this to myself as invincible as teens think they are, (or got an incling of it), thought possibly that doctors were going to deny me a liver, and well I might die...
And theres me, all over the news, being pasted like a tosser.
I'd walk out of a hospital and get a f**king drink possibly???
Who knows, maybe he's suicidal???

Pity he didn't come accross an addiction that would do less physical harm in the long term or cost the NHS to have to revisit administrative decisions.

Maybe socially, heroin isnt the thing in Newtownards, but alcohol is more acceptable.

JuliusCaesar

Gummy Panda wrote: »

If I was the barman, i don't think i'd be listening too closely to the drinks order if a lad comes in wearing a patient gown, a needle in his arm.

Back in the early 80s, I lived in Rialto which is near the back entrance to St James' Hospital. There used often be fellas sitting at the bar of the local pub in pyjamas & dressing gowns from the hospital, having a pint.

Dunno if it still happens.

bleg

Ya see, the publicans down south are right. This is what you get when drink prices are cheap!

Eoin

Xavi6 wrote: »

He asked for a pint or possibly a vodka

Surely she would remember what a guy in slippers with a needle hanging out of his arm ordered, especially seeing as she ratted him out straight after.

Maybe they meant to say he possibly asked for a pint of vodka.

jape

If I knew I might only have 2 weeks left to live, I'd probably want a few pints too. (Serious post)

Overheal

DublinWriter wrote: »

I remember seeing the lad's father pleading for donors on the UTV and RTE Evening news last week.

He said that he didn't break the news to his son that he is terminally ill.

I personally think now would be a really good time to tell him.

You must think this kid is really thick - I am sure he figured it out in the intervening time.

Stev_o

My guess is that he must of had some underlying liver problems in the past unknown to him before he got addicted to alcohol. It's a sad story but think of the donor, think of their family how do you think they'd feel if he got this liver and failed to get over the addiction and wasted that liver too.

Hank Scorpio

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

30 cans beer over a weekend caused that? porky pies i think.

He is just trying to emulate his fellow Northern Irish hero Georgie Best.

One night i could understand, but over a entire weekend nah, unless hes doing it everyday of the week.
Think he was on drugs too

Overheal

We Dont Know

I want everyone to memorize those words.

Maybe he drank himself into liver failure. Maybe he mixed a Paracetemol High with Vodka and Red Bull. Maybe he was born with a pre-existing liver problem - I've had friends who have. We just Dont Know. Stop Speculating. Either way, the kid is not long for this world by the look of things.

Hank Scorpio

Overheal wrote: »

We Dont Know

I want everyone to memorize those words.

Maybe he drank himself into liver failure. Maybe he mixed a Paracetemol High with Vodka and Red Bull. Maybe he was born with a pre-existing liver problem - I've had friends who have. We just Dont Know. Stop Speculating. Either way, the kid is not long for this world by the look of things.

Stop speculating because you said so? Or because of his Bebo page?

And btw when you say , "We" please speak for yourself.

stepbar

nuxxx wrote: »

Stop speculating because you said so? Or because of his Bebo page?

And btw when you say , "We" please speak for yourself.

It seems strange that he started when he was 16 and 3 years later he's dying. FFS George Best went the best part of 30 years before he needed a transplant.

Hank Scorpio

Im not disagreeing, i just dont feel any sadness or remorse after reading his bebo page, and tbh i blame the parents.

Overheal

nuxxx wrote: »

Stop speculating because you said so? Or because of his Bebo page?

And btw when you say , "We" please speak for yourself.

Bebo?


edit: No, I havent read his bebo page.

Im just sick of the conclusion jumping that goes on here all the time. Drives me up the walls. My favorite case and point remains to be this thread. Mostly because it turned out - once all the evidence was published -that everyone who was rushing to torches and pitchforks was wrong Wrong WRONG!! wrong.

stepbar

nuxxx wrote: »

Im not disagreeing, i just dont feel any sadness or remorse after reading his bebo page, and tbh i blame the parents.

link?

stainluss

DublinWriter wrote: »

I remember seeing the lad's father pleading for donors on the UTV and RTE Evening news last week.

He said that he didn't break the news to his son that he is terminally ill.

I personally think now would be a really good time to tell him.

He must know, its on the tv and the papers but the lad himself is in the dark about it?:rolleyes:

But he obviously wont be given one now that he was down the pub.

He must have a serious problem

stainluss

He nearly died after having 30 cans in a weekend?

How come it didnt happen to anyone at oxegen?
Some people nearly died trying to carry their cans onto the bus let alone drink them all:rolleyes:

He must have had a more persistent drinking problem

[Jackass]

Well if they're not going to give him the liver, will they at least give him the pint??

This kid just can't catch a break!!

orestes

Poor guy, there has to be more to this story than we know imo, but either way it's pretty tragic stuff