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How many QUANGO's is there??

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  • 25-08-2009 5:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭


    I was reading today about Ireland in the economist, we are described as being in a depression and having the worst prospects in europe. This made me think about the cuts the governement should make,, and lets start with the Quangos..

    Quango's are quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisation Their are estimates that in Ireland there are between 800-1000 Quangos. Not to be confused with semi-state organisations..

    They have been set up by the government, so politions dont have to take responsibility for anything.. they are mostly a complete waste of money and are full of pen pushing bureaucrats, who are grossly overpaid and vastly underworked.

    My question to you is can any one name all of the irish quangos?
    I googled the word authority and came up with the following.. (god knows what they actually do)

    equality authority
    roads safety authority
    food safety authority
    Irish aviation authority
    National disability authority
    Higher education authority
    competition authority
    Dublin doclands developement authority
    national qualifications authority
    natianal standards authority
    dublin regional authority
    health insurance authority
    national employement rights authority


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    You forgot the one that got us into this mess - Irish Financial Services Regulatory Authority. Buunch of spinless, wasters with no balls to tackle the banks until it was too late. Walk by their office on Dame St every morning - try and spit at their window when no-one's looking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,545 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Dont forget the HSE...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 worried shooter


    Nice work if you can get it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,187 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    How many Quangos ARE there?

    :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    How many Quangos ARE there?

    :)

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 worried shooter


    Simple answer is way too many.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,187 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    bibbly wrote: »
    equality authority
    roads safety authority
    food safety authority
    Irish aviation authority
    National disability authority
    Higher education authority
    competition authority
    Dublin doclands developement authority
    national qualifications authority
    natianal standards authority
    dublin regional authority
    health insurance authority
    national employement rights authority

    Reminds me of that scene in Yes, Minister

    Quango


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    quangos done one thing , they grew fianna fail voters , thank you again bertie aherne


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    They're all "jobs for the boys", achieving little or nothing, costing a fecking fortune and set-up to divert attention away from the gov on any minuscule problem.

    There was a post on here a while back saying they cost €13,000,000,000 a year to run.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Why can't they just get rid of them, we can't afford them . we don't need them , most of them are rewards from FF to their faithful, and let's face it, they are certainly no use to us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 worried shooter


    Sir Humphrey would never allow that to happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    bibbly wrote: »
    How many QUANGO's is there??
    1.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Sea Fisheries Protection Authority 2007
    2.Arts, Sport and Tourism National Sports Campus Development Authority 2007
    3.Communications, Energy & Natural Resources
    4.National Oil Reserves Agency 2007
    5.Communications, Energy & Natural Resources
    6.TG4 2007
    7.Enterprise, Trade and Employment High Level Group on Business Regulation 2007
    8.Enterprise, Trade and Employment National Consumer Agency 2007
    9.Enterprise, Trade and Employment National Employment Rights Authority 2007
    10.Environment, Heritage and Local Government
    11.Limerick Northside Regeneration Agency 2007
    12.Environment, Heritage and Local Government
    13.Limerick Southside Regeneration Agency 2007
    14.Health and Children Children Acts Advisory Board 2007
    15.Health and Children Health & Social Care Professionals Council 2007
    16.Health and Children HIQA 2007
    17.Health and Children National Cancer Screening Services Board 2007
    18.Health and Children National Paediatric Hospital Development Board 2007
    19.Transport and the Marine Railway Safety Advisory Council 2007
    20.Foreign Affairs Hunger Task Force 2007
    21.Arts, Sport and Tourism Abbey Theatre (Amharclann na Mainistreach) 2006
    22.Arts, Sport and Tourism Crawford Gallery Cork 2006
    23.Arts, Sport and Tourism Fáilte Ireland (National Tourism Development Authority) 2006
    24.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs
    25.Dormant Accounts Board 2006
    26.Communications, Energy & Natural Resources
    27.Eirgrid 2006
    28.Education and Sciences Education Finance Board 2006
    29.Education and Sciences Grangegorman Development Agency 2006
    30.Education and Sciences The Teaching Council 2006
    31.Enterprise, Trade and Employment IAASA 2006
    32.Health and Children Health Repayment Scheme Appeals Office 2006
    33.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Local Registration of Deeds and Title Rules Committee 2006
    34.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Private Security Appeals Board 2006
    35.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Garda Siochana Ombudsman Commission 2006
    36.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Garda Siochana Inspectorate 2006
    37.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Mental Health Criminal Law Review Board 2006
    38.Transport and the Marine Railway Safety Commission 2006
    39.Transport and the Marine Integrated Ticketing Project Board 2006
    40.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Property Registration Authority 2006
    41.Arts, Sport and Tourism Culture Ireland 2005
    42.Arts, Sport and Tourism National Museum of Ireland 2005
    43.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs
    44.Pobal 2005
    45.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs
    46.Western Development Commission 2005
    47.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Small Business Forum - Implementation Group 2005
    48.Environment, Heritage and Local Government
    49.Affordable Homes Partnership 2005
    50.Health and Children Health Service Executive 2005
    51.Justice, Equality and Law Reform National Property Services Regulatory Authority 2005
    52.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Commission for the Support of Victims of Crime 2005
    53.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs
    54.Comhairle na Tuaithe 2004
    55.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs
    56.Oifig Choimisinéir na d'Teangacha Oifigiúla 2004
    57.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs
    58.Fóram na Gaeilge 2004
    59.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Personal Injuries Assessment Board 2004
    60.Environment, Heritage and Local Government
    61.Private Residential Tenancies Board 2004
    62.Health and Children National Haemophilia Council 2004
    63.Health and Children National Treatment Purchase Fund 2004
    64.Health and Children Irish Expert Body on Fluorides and Health 2004
    65.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Private Security Authority 2004
    66.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Independent Monitoring Commission 2004
    67.Finance Credit Union Advisory Committee 2004
    68.Finance Outside Appointments Board 2004
    69.Finance Irish Financial Services Appeals Tribunal 2004
    70.Finance Financial Services Ombudsman Council 2004
    71.Finance Financial Services Consultative Consumer Panel 2004
    72.Finance Financial Services Consultative Industry Panel 2004
    73.Transport and the Marine Commission for Taxi Regulation 2004
    74.Transport and the Marine Dublin Airport Authority 2004
    75.Transport and the Marine Shannon Airport Authority 2004
    76.Transport and the Marine Cork Airport Authority 2004
    77.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs
    78.Regional Drugs Taskforces (10) 2003
    79.Communications, Energy & Natural Resources
    80.Digital Hub Development Agency 2003
    81.Defence Civil Defence Board 2003
    82.Education and Sciences National Council for Special Education 2003
    83.Education and Sciences State Examinations Commission 2003
    84.Foreign Affairs Development Education Advisory Committee 2003
    85.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Remembrance Commission 2003
    86.Finance Decentralisation Implementation Group 2003
    87.Finance National Development Finance Agency 2003
    88.Finance Central Bank and Financial Services Authority of Ireland 2003
    89.Finance Irish Financial Services Regulatory Authority 2003
    90.Social and Family Affairs Family Support Agency 2003
    91.Transport and the Marine Advisory Council to the Commission for Taxi Regulation 2003
    92.Social and Family Affairs Office of the Pensions Ombudsman 2003
    93.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Consumer Liaison Panel 2002
    94.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Farm Animal Welfare Advisory Council 2002
    95.Communications, Energy & Natural Resources
    Commission for Communications Regulation 2002
    96.Communications, Energy & Natural Resources
    Sustainable Energy Ireland 2002
    97.Education and Sciences National Education Welfare Board 2002
    98.Education and Sciences National Adult Learning Council 2002
    99.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Irish Council for Bioethics 2002
    100.Foreign Affairs Advisory Board for Irish Aid 2002
    101.Health and Children Mental Health Commission 2002
    102.Health and Children Office for Tobacco Control 2002
    103.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Office of the Inspector of Prisons 2002
    104.Finance Ordnance Survey Ireland 2002
    105.Finance State Claims Agency Policy Committee 2002
    106.Transport and the Marine The Marine Casualty Investigation Board 2002
    107.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food RELAY 2001
    108.Arts, Sport and Tourism Horse Racing Ireland 2001
    109.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs
    110.National Monitoring Committee Overseeing the Operation of the Rapid Programme 2001
    111.Education and Sciences Further Education and Training Awards Council 2001
    112.Education and Sciences Higher Education and Training Awards Council 2001
    113.Education and Sciences Irish Research Council for Science, Engineering and Technology 2001
    114.Education and Sciences National Qualifications Authority of Ireland 2001
    115.Education and Sciences National Youth Work Advisory Council 2001
    116.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Competition Law Review Group 2001
    117.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Office of the Directors Corporate Enforcement 2001
    118.Taoiseach National Economic and Social Development Office 2001
    119.Taoiseach National Centre for Partnership and Performance 2001
    120.Taoiseach Ireland Newfoundland Partnership Board 2001
    121.Taoiseach National Forum on Europe 2001
    122.Health and Children Crisis Pregnancy Agency 2001
    123.Health and Children Dental Council 2001
    124.Health and Children Health Insurance Authority 2001
    125.Health and Children National Children's Advisory Council 2001
    126.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Parole Board 2001
    127.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Midlands Prison Visiting Committee 2001
    128.Finance Committee for Performance Awards 2001
    129.Finance National Pensions Reserve Commission 2001
    130.Transport and the Marine Railway Procurement Agency 2001
    131.Transport and the Marine Commission for Aviation Regulation 2001
    132.Arts, Sport and Tourism Tourism Ireland (North/South Body) 2000
    133.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs
    134.National Advisory Committee on Drugs 2000
    135.Communications, Energy & Natural Resources
    136.National Salmon Commission 2000
    137.Education and Sciences Irish Research Council for the Humanities and Social Sciences 2000
    138.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Advisory Science Council 2000
    139.Enterprise, Trade and Employment National Framework Committee for Work/Life
    Balance
    2000
    140.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Science Foundation Ireland 2000
    141.Health and Children Pre Hospital Emergency Care Council 2000
    142.Health and Children Food Safety Consultative Council 2000
    143.Health and Children Scientific Committee of the Food Safety Authority 2000
    144.Justice, Equality and Law Reform National Disability Authority 2000
    145.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Internet Advisory Board 2000
    146.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Office of the Refugee Applications Commissioner 2000
    147.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Refugee Appeals Tribunal 2000
    148.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Cloverhill Prison Visiting Committee 2000
    149.Finance Public Services Benchmarking Body 2000
    150.Social and Family Affairs Citizens Information Board 2000
    151.Arts, Sport and Tourism Irish Sports Council 1999
    152.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs
    Bord o Ulstér-Scotch 1999
    153.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht
    Affairs
    Foras na Gaeilge 1999
    154.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht
    Affairs
    Waterways Ireland 1999
    155.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Commission for Energy Regulation 1999
    156.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Mining Board 1999
    157.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Foyle, Carlingford and Irish Lights Commission 1999
    158.Education and Sciences Integrated Ireland Language and Training Ltd 1999
    159.Enterprise, Trade and Employment InterTrade Ireland 1999
    160.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Skillsnet Limited 1999
    161.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Comhar Sustainable Development Council 1999
    162.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Irish Water Safety 1999
    163.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    National Traveller Accommodation Committee 1999
    164.Health and Children Food Safety Authority of Ireland 1999
    165.Health and Children Food Safety Promotion Board 1999
    166.Health and Children Institute of Public Health 1999
    167.Health and Children National Council for the Professional Development
    of Nursing and Midwifery
    1999
    168.Health and Children St Luke's Hospital Board 1999
    169.Health and Children National Childcare Coordinating Committee 1999
    170.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Equality Authority 1999
    171.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Independent Monitoring Committee for Refugee
    Legal Services
    1999
    172.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Courts Services 1999
    173.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Independent Commission for the Location of
    Victims Remains
    1999
    174.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Prisons Authority Interim Board 1999
    175.Justice, Equality and Law Reform National Crime Council 1999
    176.Finance Special EU Programmes Body 1999
    177.Finance Civil Service Arbitration Board 1999
    178.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Aquaculture Licences Appeals 1998
    179.Arts, Sport and Tourism Council of National Cultural Institutions 1998
    180.Education and Sciences Tipperary Institute 1998
    181.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Enterprise Ireland 1998
    182.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Building Regulations Advisory Body 1998
    183.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Designated Areas Appeals Advisory Board 1998
    184.Finance Valuation Tribunal 1998
    185.Finance Investor Compensation Company 1998
    Community, Rural and Gaeltacht
    Affairs
    186.Local Drugs Taskforces (14) 1997
    187.Defence Defence Forces Canteen Board 1997
    188.Education and Sciences Léargas 1997
    189.Education and Sciences Institute of Art Design and Technology, Dun
    Laoghaire
    1997
    190.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Expert Group on Future Skills Needs 1997
    191.Enterprise, Trade and Employment National Competitiveness Council 1997
    192.Enterprise, Trade and Employment National Standards Authority of Ireland 1997
    193.Foreign Affairs Fulbright Commission 1997
    Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    194.Dublin Docklands Development Authority Board 1997
    195.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Dublin Docklands Development Council 1997
    196.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Local Government Management Services Board 1997
    197.Health and Children Consultative Council on Hepatitis C 1997
    198.Health and Children National Council for Aging and Older People 1997
    199.Health and Children National Social Work Qualifications Board 1997
    200.Health and Children Women's Health Council 1997
    201.Justice, Equality and Law Reform National Consultative Committee on Racism and
    Inter-Culturalism
    1997
    202.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Independent Commission on Decommissioning 1997
    203.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Castlerea Prison Visiting Committee 1997
    204.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht
    Affairs
    205.National Drugs Strategy Team 1996
    206.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Trade Mark Agents Board 1996
    207.Health and Children Advisory Committee for Human Medicine 1996
    208.Health and Children Advisory Committee for Veterinary Medicines 1996
    209.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Judicial Appointments Advisory Board 1996
    210.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Legal Aid Board 1996
    211.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Equality Tribunal 1996
    212.Transport and the Marine Dublin Port 1996
    213.Transport and the Marine Cork Port 1996
    214.Transport and the Marine Waterford Port 1996
    215.Transport and the Marine Dun Laoghaire Port 1996
    216.Transport and the Marine New Ross port 1996
    217.Transport and the Marine Shannon Foynes Port 1996
    218.Transport and the Marine Dundalk Port 1996
    219.Transport and the Marine Drogheda Port 1996
    220.Transport and the Marine Galway Port 1996
    221.Transport and the Marine Wicklow Port 1996
    222.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food National Milk Agency 1995
    223.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    The Heritage Council 1995
    224.Transport and the Marine Dublin Transport Office 1995
    225.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food An Board Bia 1994
    226.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Forfás 1994
    227.Taoiseach National Statistics Board 1994
    228.Transport and the Marine National Roads Authority 1994
    229.Transport and the Marine Irish Aviation Authority 1994
    230.Arts, Sport and Tourism Irish Genealogy Limited 1993
    231.Education and Sciences Tralee IT 1993
    232.Enterprise, Trade and Employment 35 City and County CEBs 1993
    233.Taoiseach National Economic and Social Forum 1993
    234.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Environmental Protection Agency 1993
    235.Finance Civil Service Disciplinary Code Appeal Board 1993
    236.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food COFORD 1992
    237.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Fisheries Co-Op Societies (8) 1992
    238.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Marine Institute 1992
    239.Education and Sciences Dublin IT 1992
    240.Education and Sciences Limerick IT 1992
    241.Education and Sciences Tallaght IT 1992
    242.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Patents Agents Board 1992
    243.Taoiseach Irish-American Economics Advisory Board 1992
    244.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Radiological Protection Institute of Ireland 1992
    245.Finance Independent Mediator for the Civil Service 1992
    246.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Labour Relations Commission 1991
    247.Enterprise, Trade and Employment The Competition Authority 1991
    248.Health and Children National Cancer Registry 1991
    249.Social and Family Affairs The Pensions Board 1991
    250.Arts, Sport and Tourism Irish Museum of Modern Art 1990
    Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    251.Environmental Information Service 1990
    252.Finance National Treasury Management Agency AdvisoryCommittee
    1990
    253.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Coillte 1989
    254.Enterprise, Trade and Employment National Authority for Occupational Safety and
    Health
    1989
    255.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Training Unit Place of Detention Visiting
    Committee
    1989
    256.Finance Disabled Drivers Medical Board of Appeal 1989
    257.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Teagasc 1988
    258.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Broadcasting Commission of Ireland 1988
    259.Enterprise, Trade and Employment FÁS 1988
    260.Health and Children Drug Treatment Centre Board 1988
    261.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Office of the Data Protection Commissioner 1988
    262.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Garda Siochana Complaints Appeal Board 1987
    263.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Garda Siochana Complaints Board 1986
    264.Finance An Post National Lottery Company 1986
    265.Social and Family Affairs Combat Poverty Agency 1986
    266.Education and Sciences The President's Award - Gaisce 1985
    267.Health and Children An Bord Altranais - The Nursing Board 1985
    268.Health and Children Health Research Board 1985
    269.Health and Children Irish Medicines Board 1985
    270.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    An Post 1984
    271.Foreign Affairs Dion Advisory Committee 1984
    272.Finance Top Levels Appointments Committee 1984
    273.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Fire Services Council 1983
    274.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    The Rent Tribunal 1983
    275.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Taskforce on Special Aid for the Elderly 1982
    276.Social and Family Affairs Social Welfare Tribunal 1982
    277.Arts, Sport and Tourism National Concert Hall 1981
    278.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Housing Finance Agency 1981
    279.Finance Sealuchais Arachais Teoranta 1981
    280.Arts, Sport and Tourism Bord Scannán na hÉireann 1980
    281.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Central Fisheries Board 1980
    282.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Eastern Regional Fisheries Board 1980
    283.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    North Western Regional Fisheries Board 1980
    284.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Northern Regional Fisheries Board 1980
    285.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Shannon Regional Fisheries Board 1980
    286.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    South Regional Fisheries Board 1980
    287.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    South Western Regional Fisheries Board 1980
    288.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Western Regional Fisheries Board 1980
    289.Education and Sciences Dublin City University 1980
    290.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht
    Affairs
    Údarás na Gaeltachta 1979
    291.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Irish National Petroleum Ltd 1979
    292.Health and Children Leopardstown Park Hospital Board 1979
    293.Health and Children Medical Council 1978
    294.Health and Children Postgraduate Medical and Dental Board 1978
    295.Justice, Equality and Law Reform St Patrick's Institution Visiting Committee 1978
    296.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Shelton Abbey Place of Detention Visiting
    Committee
    1978
    297.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    An Bord Pleanála 1977
    298.Health and Children Beaumont Hospital Board 1977
    299.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Bord Gais Eireann 1976
    300.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Broadcasting Complaints Commission 1976
    301.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Arbour Hill Prison Visiting Committee 1976
    302.Taoiseach Law Reform Commission 1975
    303.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Local Government Computer Services Board 1975
    304.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Forensic Science Laboratory 1975
    305.Education and Sciences Teachers Arbitration Board 1974
    306.Education and Sciences Cork IT 1974
    307.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Criminal Injuries Compensation Tribunal 1974
    308.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Wheatfield Prison Visiting Committee 1974
    309.Justice, Equality and Law Reform State Pathologist's Office 1974
    310.Taoiseach National Economic and Social Council 1973
    311.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Loughan Prison Visiting Committee 1973
    312.Education and Sciences Galway-Mayo IT 1972
    313.Education and Sciences University of Limerick 1972
    314.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Cork Prison Visiting Committee 1972
    315.Education and Sciences Higher Education Authority 1971
    316.Education and Sciences National College of Art and Design 1971
    317.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Crafts Council of Ireland 1971
    318.Health and Children St James' Hospital Board 1971
    319.Education and Sciences Athlone IT 1970
    320.Education and Sciences Waterford IT 1970
    321.Health and Children Board of the Adelaide and Meath Hospital 1970
    322.Arts, Sport and Tourism Chester Beatty Library 1969
    323.Education and Sciences Advisory Council for English Language Schools 1969
    324.Education and Sciences Tourism College Killybegs 1969
    325.Enterprise, Trade and Employment IDA Ireland 1969
    326.Finance Review Body on Higher Remuneration in the Public
    Sector
    1969
    327.Defence Coiste an Asgard 1968
    328.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Employment Appeals Tribunal 1968
    329.Transport and the Marine Medical Bureau of Road Safety 1968
    330.Transport and the Marine Aer Lingus 1966
    331.Health and Children Irish Blood Transfusion Service Board 1965
    332.Health and Children Dublin Dental Hospital Board 1963
    333.Health and Children Poisons Council 1962
    334.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Committee on Court Practice and Procedure 1962
    335.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    RTÉ 1961
    336.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Nitrigin Eireann Teoranta 1961
    337.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    National Building Agency 1960
    338.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Shannon Development 1959
    339.Arts, Sport and Tourism Bord na gCon 1958
    340.Health and Children Board for the Employment of the Blind 1957
    341.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Animal Remedies Consultative Committee 1956
    342.Health and Children Opticians Board 1956
    343.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Bord Iascaigh Mhara 1952
    344.Health and Children An Bord Uchtála 1952
    345.Arts, Sport and Tourism Arts Council 1951
    346.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    An Chomhairle Leabharlanna 1947
    347.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Irish National Stud 1946
    348.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht
    Affairs
    An Coimisiún Logainmneacha 1946
    349.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    Bord na Mona 1946
    350.Enterprise, Trade and Employment Labour Court 1946
    351.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Irish Legal Terms Advisory Committee 1946
    352.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Censorship of Publications Appeals Board 1946
    353.Transport and the Marine Arklow Harbour Commissioners 1946
    354.Transport and the Marine Bantry Bay Harbour Commissioners 1946
    355.Transport and the Marine Baltimore and Skibbereen Harbour Commissioners 1946
    356.Transport and the Marine Kilrush Urban District Council 1946
    357.Transport and the Marine Kinsale Harbour Commissioners 1946
    358.Transport and the Marine River Moy Commissioners 1946
    359.Transport and the Marine Tralee and Fenit Harbour Commissioners 1946
    360.Transport and the Marine Westport Harbour Commissioners 1946
    361.Transport and the Marine Wexford Harbour Commissioners 1946
    362.Transport and the Marine Youghal Urban District Council 1946
    363.Transport and the Marine Córas Iompair Éireann 1945
    364.Education and Sciences Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies 1940
    365.Defence The Irish Red Cross Society 1939
    366.Health and Children Hospital Trust Board 1938
    367.Environment, Heritage and Local
    Government
    Met Éireann 1936
    368.Justice, Equality and Law Reform District Court Rules Committee 1936
    369.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Circuit Court Rules Committee 1936
    370.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Superior Court Rules Committee 1936
    371.Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Veterinary Council of Ireland 1931
    372.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Censorship of Publications Board 1929
    373.Arts, Sport and Tourism Irish Manuscripts Commission 1928
    374.Communications, Energy & Natural
    Resources
    ESB 1927
    375.Defence Army Pensions Board 1927
    376.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Office of Film Censor 1923
    377.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Censorship of Films Appeal board 1923
    378.Health and Children National Maternity Hospital 1903
    379.Education and Sciences University College Dublin 1881
    380.Arts, Sport and Tourism National Gallery of Ireland 1877
    381.Health and Children Pharmaceutical Society of Ireland 1875
    382.Arts, Sport and Tourism National Library of Ireland 1854
    383.Education and Sciences University College Cork 1845
    384.Education and Sciences NUI Galway 1845
    385.Education and Sciences Trinity College Dublin 1592
    386.Community, Rural and Gaeltacht
    Affairs
    Board of the Commissioners of Charitable
    387.Donations and Bequests for Ireland
    388.Education and Sciences International Education Board - Ireland
    389.Education and Sciences National Council for Curriculum and Assessment
    390.Education and Sciences Blanchardstown IT
    391.Education and Sciences Carlow IT
    392.Education and Sciences Dundalk IT
    393.Education and Sciences Letterkenny IT
    394.Education and Sciences National University of Ireland
    395.Education and Sciences Sligo IT
    396.Education and Sciences NUI Maynooth
    397.Health and Children Voluntary Health Insurance Board
    398.Health and Children Cork University Dental School and Hospital
    399.Health and Children Advisory Committee for Medical Devices
    400.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Limerick Prison Visiting Committee
    401.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Mountjoy Prison Visiting Committee
    402.Justice, Equality and Law Reform Portlaoise Prison Visiting Committee
    403.Transport and the Marine Public Transport Partnership Forum

    FG tried to list them, but about 400 is as far as they got.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Still aren't rid of most of the ones they said they'd get rid of in the Budget.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Delta Kilo


    327.Defence Coiste an Asgard 1968

    What? The fucking thing sank a year ago. What have they, a bunch of knobs sitting around a desk looking for photos of it?

    What a joke of a country we live in!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Has "Bord Snip" investigated these or have they like other things, been told to keep away from that area?
    "O' no, we don't want you looking there!"

    Seriously, think about it. Imagine the money that could be saved if half of them could be closed, cut down or amalgamated! Its crazy.
    Just as crazy as still paying the head man of "Bord Snip" still 800 euro a day according to previous media reports!

    Aaa well thats Ireland for you. They will get away with it again. Why?
    Because... we... let... them... and... re-elect... them... - like dumb bloody sheep!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    That list is a load of crap, a lot of those bodies are not quangos. I work for one, and its been in existence a lot longer than this government. They are amalgamating us and other agencies into one agency next year and that will save some costs, but definitely not a quango.
    To pick a few:
    1. Sea Fisheries Protection Authority
    104. Ordnance Survey Ireland
    228. National Roads Authority
    253. Coillte
    281. Central Fisheries Board

    None of these are quangos, they are public bodies carrying out essential work, some of them dating back to well before this government was formed.

    The list also contains Departments - a whole ****ing department is hardly a quango now!

    Whoever compiled this list clearly just got a list of all public bodies and lumped them in with all the new quangos to make the list seem more impressive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Oh noes, we've been Quangoed!!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Looked up the definition of "Quango"
    Seems accurate to me according to the lists out there.
    "a semi-public government-financed administrative body whose members are appointed by the government"

    Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/quango

    Some are needed but in a lot of cases I suspect, some really are "jobs for the boys and supporters".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Zzippy wrote: »
    That list is a load of crap, a lot of those bodies are not quangos. I work for one, and its been in existence a lot longer than this government. They are amalgamating us and other agencies into one agency next year and that will save some costs, but definitely not a quango.
    To pick a few:
    1. Sea Fisheries Protection Authority
    104. Ordnance Survey Ireland
    228. National Roads Authority
    253. Coillte
    281. Central Fisheries Board

    None of these are quangos, they are public bodies carrying out essential work, some of them dating back to well before this government was formed.

    The list also contains Departments - a whole ****ing department is hardly a quango now!

    Whoever compiled this list clearly just got a list of all public bodies and lumped them in with all the new quangos to make the list seem more impressive.


    Agreed. The list also includes such pointless Quangos as National University of Ireland, Maynooth.

    Not all Quangos are bad. Not all are inherently a waste of taxpayers money. We shouldn't get hung up on the actualy number but rather their collective and individual effectiveness. Also, Merging bodies together don't automatically make them any more efficent. For example we merged all the Health Boards into one to create the HSE.

    Prehaps people would care to pick out the 100 or so from that list of 400 that they would like to see abolished?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Biggins wrote: »
    Some are needed but in a lot of cases I suspect, some really are "jobs for the boys and supporters".

    Specifically which ones?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Euro_Kraut wrote: »
    Specifically which ones?

    Let me answer that by re-mentioning a few that have been in the news earlier on this year...
    IN a treble whammy of fiscal hits last week, Moody's downgraded Ireland's top notch AAA status, the latest horrific quarterly economic data came out and the public spending cuts grim reaper -- an Bord Snip Nua -- delivered its cost-axing recommendations to Government.

    The Government is refusing to spill the gory details of what Snip Nua would get rid of, fuelling speculation even further as to how it used its cart blanche to recommend anything it deemed "unnecessary" for a spending chop.

    Snip Nua is bound to have had a good hard look at Ireland's 1,000 quangos, or state funded public bodies.

    These multiplied faster than bored lab rabbits during the boom. Some 200 leapt into being in the last three years alone -- more than one a week.

    This orgy of state outsourcing means there is one quango for every 4,000 people in the country, from the Mushroom Taskforce or Beaumont Hospital Carpark Committee and the Board of Ulster Scotch to more mainstream bodies such as the Health Service Executive and the National Roads Authority.

    While some serve a useful and valid purpose, others are incredibly profligate with colossal pay, expenses and consultancy bills landing on the taxpayers' tab.

    The quangos' combined annual budget was €13bn in 2006, according to a Think Tank for Action on Social Change report, and it's sure to be even more now.

    A saving of €200m could be made by culling the quangos, according to a Fine Gael proposal of last year, but a look at some of their splurging shows it could easily be millions more than that.

    The hottest An Bord Snip Nua hearsay is that €1bn will be slashed in health spending. To Mary Harney's credit, health quangos have been culled or merged from a cluttered 57 to just 18 but there have been some new quango incarnations too.

    Snip Nua might wonder how a new quango on the block, the Health Information and Quality Authority (Hiqa) has almost half its €14.8m funding -- €6m -- wiped out by staff costs, according to its annual report.

    One reason may be the high salaries for medical professionals among the 130 staff, with some justification, given the body's health care monitoring remit. Harder to explain is the €637,000 in "recruitment" it shelled out last year.
    Just getting Hiqa started last year set the Exchequer back €2.4m in "support and establishment" costs, when there is already a fully set up Dept of Health.
    At €6m, less than 50 per cent of its budget is left for Hiqa to do what it was established to do. A third of that, €2m, goes to "investigations and professional fees", and the "travel and subsistence" spend is €475,000.

    Snip Nua could easily argue that the Irish Greyhound Board's (IGB) €13.8m government funding could be saved if it and other sports bodies with a strong gambling element exploited lucrative betting and sponsorship income to pay for themselves.
    The IGB's past record could be "how-not-to-run-a-quango" textbook material.

    A €1.5m legal bill from a Supreme Court case involving Tote Advanced is just one major cost resulting from a litany of tendering mishaps, as a Comptroller and Auditor-General's (CAG) report of last year discovered.
    "Perquisites enjoyed by certain staff" as the CAG put it, included free cars for two of them, compliments of a local car dealership until 2005. When the CEO discovered and nixed this carry-on his wishes were ignored and the cars were kept on by the corporate-governance-nightmare duo involved, so that IGB ended up with a tax and benefit in kind liability on them.

    Surely things are less freewheeling now? Maybe, but "travel, promotion and expenses" outlay is €600,000 a year, more than double that of the Arts Council, with its much bigger remit. Latest figures show €63,000 of goods were purchased from one individual who is now a board member, prior to his being appointed, IGB's accounts said. Buying out an IGB's premises lease in Limerick resulted in paying €95,000 to a former CEO's daughter-in-law to pay her to rescind her office tenancy there.

    The bill to investigate where things went wrong netted PwC €76,000.
    Somebody or everybody at Udaras na Gaeltachta is earning a very nice wedge, as combined salaries for its 112 full-time staff come to €8.9m, an average of almost €80,000 a year each. The gaeltacht areas' social, cultural and economic body has 20 board members, 17 of whom are elected.

    Its state investment for the year was €68m a year, plus grants of around €8m. It funds everything from airstrips to energy projects to R&D. Snip Nua could rein in Udaras's €233m allocation from the NDP for 2007-2013.
    A €479,000 bad debts write-off for 2007 goes unexplained in its annual report.

    The last budget already cut deep into the Arts Council's funds, and many festivals and projects will be without money as it is. However even allowing for its huge nationwide grant administration, some of its expenses seem massively high.
    With 13 board members and 17 advisers, the Arts Council paid out €387,000 on "business consultants", according to its last annual report. Then there are the €229,000 "council and staff expenses". That's almost €4,000 per full-time staff member. Its advisers cost €896,000 in total for 2008, averaging over €52,000 each.

    Employer, union and government collaborative body National Economic and Social Development Office (NESDO) describes it's role thus: "to add value to the work of its constituent bodies by creating the conditions under which synergies can be released ... the development of a shared vision for realising these goals and encouraging the constituent bodies to maximise their efforts through collaborative policy development initiatives." There's more, but you won't understand what that means either.

    With the good times that were in it some might argue employers and unions could have funded their own multi-million euro collaborations.
    Salary expenditure is almost half of its €5.2m state funding of €2.2m, its 2007 figures show.
    NESDO's council is a cast of dozens from the Irish Business and Employers Confederation (Ibec), the government and unions -- but yet its "consultancy fee" spend is €547,000. Separate to that, a €141,000 "professional fees" figure features. There's a travel and subsistence tab of €73,000. Rather mad splurging includes €67,000 on "post and taxis" and €45,000 on "recruitment". In the age of email and the paperless office, in the as yet unaudited accounts for 2008, the annual bill for stationery is €78,000.

    Inter-body scrapping, internal disputes, money squabbles -- Snip Nua might query why the Department of Arts, Sports and Tourism is funding its very own untelevised reality soap opera at the Sports Council of Ireland. As the 2012 Olympics preparations get closer, the best spending use of its €55m sports money is coming into sharper focus.

    Former U2 accountant Ossie Kilkenny chairs the Sports Council in a five-year non-executive appointment, with board members including Bertie's brother Maurice Ahern.

    There is major disharmony between the Sports Council and the Olympic Council and Athletics Ireland, which rely on it for money. Kilkenny recently backed withholding money from Athletics Ireland last year, leading to a public dispute.

    One top spending quango that Snip Nua won't be likely to touch is the National Treasury Management Agency. Chief executive Michael Somers took a pay cut in 2008. His salary was €1.1m in 2007. It's now a measly €980,000, but odds are he'll be earning it in the months to come. The salary bill of €16.3m at NTMA averages out at over €100,000 between 163 employees.
    Source: http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/only-thing-that-this-quango-is-combating-is-the-truth-1481017.html

    While again, some are clearly necessary, others can be eliminated and/or amalgamated without question.
    As in the case of the sports bodies (2 doing the same job in one case!) there are easy savings to be made.

    To quote Kevin Myres of the Indo' (Don't like the chap but to be fair to him, sometimes he does have a point):
    But what about Combat Poverty? This is truly the quangissimo of quangos. So what does it actually do? Hard to say. Its last annual report says that it spent just €865,120 on programmes to combat poverty. However, the salaries and expenses of its staff cost two-and-half times as much, at €2,276,065, while rent and administrative costs reached €889,499, which is around €24,000 more than it spent on so-called poverty programmes.

    Okay, not looking too good so far. So, what do these "poverty programmes" actually consist of? Well, one involved an extensive survey of employees working in the public sector, and this found that 60pc of the respondents thought that their "senior management were highly committed". Good, that's really worth spending lots of public money on, combating poverty away like billy-oh.

    For Combat Poverty certainly does its heroic best to combat poverty amongst the civil service. Its 35-strong workforce (remember, total salary and expenses €2.25m) includes: one director; four communications officers; six research officers; 10 project/programme officers; two financial controllers; a librarian; one research administrator; one (I imagine, pretty bored) receptionist; one "corporate services executive/PA to director" (elsewhere known as a secretary); and, in a body of people which is no larger than a Ballinamore school class, a human resources manager.

    Source: http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/only-thing-that-this-quango-is-combating-is-the-truth-1481017.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Biggins wrote: »
    Let me answer that by re-mentioning a few that have been in the news earlier on this year...

    Actually I was more interested in your opinion rather than the Irish Independent’s.

    Are you saying you in favour of abolishing all those mentioned in that article?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Euro_Kraut wrote: »
    Actually I was more interested in your opinion rather than the Irish Independent’s.

    Are you saying you in favour of abolishing all those mentioned in that article?
    Not necessarily abolishing but at least a re-assessment of value, necessity and importance in todays current climate.

    I think thats only fair. Do you not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Senna wrote: »
    FG tried to list them, but about 400 is as far as they got.

    Senna, where did you get that list? It repeats 'Community Rural and Gealtacht Affairs' 15 times!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Biggins wrote: »
    Not necessarily abolishing but at least a re-assessment of value, necessity and importance in todays current climate.

    I think thats only fair. Do you not?

    I agree completely. Assessment of effectiveness should be carried out constantly regardless of economic circumstances.
    But you said earlier:
    Biggins wrote:
    some are clearly necessary, others can be eliminated and/or amalgamated without question.

    So what are the ones that can be eliminated/amalgamated without question?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    Some of these are a joke. The Mushroom Taskforce? WTF?

    There could be free thrid-level education for nearly everyone in the country I'd say, if they got rid of a few of these pointless yokes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Euro_Kraut wrote: »
    I agree completely.

    Good to hear!

    So what are the ones that can be eliminated/amalgamated without question?

    Well lets start with the Consumers Association of Ireland. The CAI is a pressure group that occasionally provides a helpline for consumers, however they have no statutory powers and therefore can’t actually do anything for you.

    But wait... why not go instead to National Consumer Agency who are responsible for the implementation of over 60 different pieces of legislation aimed at protecting consumers. These regulations cover advertising, unfair commercial practices, consumer information rules, food and other product labelling requirements, product safety laws and rules regarding the pricing of items and the display of prices. The NCA are also responsible for overseeing the key consumer legislation which governs a lot of our day to day purchasing – the Sale of Good and Supply of Services Act – the law which gives us the “repair, replace or refund” rules of thumb.

    2 doing the same job - one with teeth (be they small ones) and the other with none!

    ...And what about the National Property Services Regulatory Authority who is doing the same damn job as Office of Director of Corporate Enforcement!

    ...or may be the Financial Services Ombudsman who is doing the same jobs as the the Pensions Ombudsman...

    Want me to list more or do you just wish to keep picking away...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Biggins wrote: »
    Want me to list more or do you just wish to keep picking away...?

    Yes. If you have the time. I think it improves the debate when we get down to the nitty gritty.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Euro_Kraut wrote: »
    Yes. If you have the time. I think it improves the debate when we get down to the nitty gritty.

    Sorry, not doing your work for you.
    Go do your own research and don't be lazy.
    The information is out there. Go read up yourself and stop just relying on others. :rolleyes:
    Acacia wrote: »
    Some of these are a joke. The Mushroom Taskforce? WTF?

    There could be free third-level education for nearly everyone in the country I'd say, if they got rid of a few of these pointless yokes.

    Indeed. Madness!


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