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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 Rón beag


    that's very wrong. you don't need to do VT at all if you want to specialise. you may be mixing that up with MFDS which you can get by sitting the exams while working as an SHO in a hospital, or after 7 years you can do it without taking the year in the hospital environment.
    VT is very hit and miss. in ireland, unless things have improved recently it's very much miss. the VT'ers are treated like associates and paid a much smaller salary than what they could normally make.
    you're better off getting an associate job in a busy practice where you're sure there'll always be someone else to give you a hand when you're stuck. and remember, when you're stuck, you'll learn your limits and know when to refer.
    the only problem is in the past couple of years there's a major shortage of jobs. in the UK and ireland you'll have competition from a lot of european dentists who wouldn't get close to the 50:50 split at home (in germany, associates take 25%). it's just a case of waiting for things to pick up again.



    Just to clarify I didn't say it was essential, I said it was kind of essential and that is my impression after having talked to my professors over the last year all of which have said that they would be very slow in taking on someone for example for ortho if they didn't have VT. I'm not doing VT in Ireland so I can't talk about that but in the UK you are not treated like an associate with the pressure that that brings. I have complete control over my day list so if I want to spend an hour or more on a molar endo I can without thinking about the amount of money thats coming in etc etc. as I'm not paid per treatment but have a constant salary coming in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Anthony16


    XCiXCol wrote: »
    Guess Ill be seeing ye there too :D Did ye see the timetable before christmas- looks pretty sparse


    After looking at it properly now,it does seem pretty sparse.I assume it doesnt include practicals?At least we will get some time to get to know each other before the real hard work starts!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 XCiXCol


    Anthony16 wrote: »
    After looking at it properly now,it does seem pretty sparse.I assume it doesnt include practicals?At least we will get some time to get to know each other before the real hard work starts!

    Nope doesn't include practicals but even when u factor them in still seems pretty light!! plenty lounging around time- I'm not complaining:P! U don't by any chance know how many's in the class?!?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 ashyboots


    Hey I'm starting as a mature student in 1st yr dent too. Will you all be going to the orientation?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 XCiXCol


    ashyboots wrote: »
    Hey I'm starting as a mature student in 1st yr dent too. Will you all be going to the orientation?

    Aw brilliant! Yup I will:)! See you there:)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Anthony16


    XCiXCol wrote: »
    Nope doesn't include practicals but even when u factor them in still seems pretty light!! plenty lounging around time- I'm not complaining:P! U don't by any chance know how many's in the class?!?!


    40 or so id assume.U have any idea where we get the info on which books to buy?Cant seem to find it anywhere:confused:
    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,937 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Anthony16 wrote: »
    40 or so id assume.U have any idea where we get the info on which books to buy?Cant seem to find it anywhere:confused:
    Cheers

    you will be told. wait for the booksale, and don't get done over!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 ashyboots


    A friend of mine is in 2nd Yr and she says to hold off on buying books except really recommends getting Netter's Anatomy.... Had a look in Easons and it's double the price of Amazon. Maybe the booksale will be a bit better? Is everyone going down on Friday? Looking forward to it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Anthony16


    ashyboots wrote: »
    A friend of mine is in 2nd Yr and she says to hold off on buying books except really recommends getting Netter's Anatomy.... Had a look in Easons and it's double the price of Amazon. Maybe the booksale will be a bit better? Is everyone going down on Friday? Looking forward to it!


    Friday??Thought it was monday:confused:
    Im definitely the most confused in the class thus far:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 XCiXCol


    Anthony16 wrote: »
    Friday??Thought it was monday:confused:
    Im definitely the most confused in the class thus far:P

    It is monday! I might challenge you on that title:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 ashyboots


    Ha sorry yeah I can't read - not a great start really!


  • Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Anthony16


    XCiXCol wrote: »
    It is monday! I might challenge you on that title:rolleyes:

    Ok,just to confirm
    Do we go to the library at 9 tomorrow and does anyone know where i can find a timetable for the day?
    Iv looked it up but cant find anything specific to dent
    thanking you all hugely
    Anthony


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 ashyboots


    Couldn't find a timetable but when I talked to the dent office they said that the dentistry orientation is in the afternoon (can't remember if she said 2-2.30) in Brookfield. I'd say we just show up at 9 tomorrow and then will let us know the story for the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Anthony16


    ashyboots wrote: »
    Couldn't find a timetable but when I talked to the dent office they said that the dentistry orientation is in the afternoon (can't remember if she said 2-2.30) in Brookfield. I'd say we just show up at 9 tomorrow and then will let us know the story for the day.

    thanks alot for your reply.And is it the main campus we show up at in the morning?
    cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 XCiXCol


    Yah for some reason they took the dentistry one down:confused: but its the boole 4 at nine tomorrow- on the main campus behind the library! There's just welcome speeches which is just for the entire department and then after lunch u break up into specific courses! Hope that helps- wouldn't wana get lost on your first day:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 blogger 3000


    Rón beag wrote: »
    vt is vocational training - essentially you're mentored for the year. In the UK its a 4 day week and then a Study day on the 5th day where you do lectures/training. It's a nice and easy way of getting out into the real world 'cause you've always your trainer in the room next door if you're ever unsure of a treatment plan or an extraction's going badly etc etc. It's kinda essential if you ever wnat to go and specialise as well. An associate then is where you work for yourself (so self-employed) in someone else's practice generally split your profits 50:50 with them.

    oh right, do u get paid for VT like? how long do you think you'll work in that? and when will you specialise? or will you specialise?


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