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The "rule" that a guy can't date his mate's sister

  • 19-08-2009 12:26pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭


    What exactly is the logic behind that silly "rule"? Some guys say "it's just the way it is" etc - not a reason. I think it's a bit creepy actually - in the same way I find overly rigorous vetting of boyfriends by fathers creepy.

    And I know a man has every right to be concerned about his daughter's/sister's wellbeing but I'm talking about those who are OTT about it and seem to be more concerned about how it affects them rather than their sister/daughter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Incest is best.

    Some of the over protective guys are a bit much. I wouldn't pass to much heed to it myself but knowing the way guys talk in the pub about other girls is what bothers most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    Think it's silly, I've been married to my "mates" sister for 13 years now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,516 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    probably to do with comparasions in how they act. I've a sister of 18 and i'd trust NONE of my friends to go out with her. Thats because alot of my friends aren't nice, some wouldn't get her and others, just because i'm too used to them talking about girls as if they are objects (not in a bad way, just that i've no personal attachment to them). But as regards my sister, she can date pretty much anyone she wants as long as it's not one of the guys i hang around with. it'd be too weird for me also to date a friend's sister. Honestly don't think i could do it without messing up the friendship


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm sure most guys wouldn't care if a lovely gentleman of a friend was dating his sister. The only problem is that most guys aren't. And a guy will know how his friend has treated other girls before, either not giving a **** about them or else being a freaky stalker.

    They wouldnt want their sisters as a topic of discussion in the pub with the rest of their mates either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Just hop on him, D.

    Don't mind your brother.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    mmm..

    tbh, I think it might be because guys know the way other guys talk about girls and wouldn't like them to be talking about their sister in that way?
    I know if I had a sister I'd much rather it to be one of my friends dating her than some random I don't know.

    Although that does lead to friendships becoming unstable..a bad break up with the girl and the friendship could be pretty much over?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    It's only said if the sister is a munter. It's a good excuse to leave her be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    You can't date her, but you can still fcuk her ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    It's common sense. Dont shit in your own (or your mates) garden. Its stupid crap like wimmenz dating their friends brother that ruin friendships...I'd have expected better from you Dudess :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Long Onion


    You can't date her, but you can still fcuk her ;)

    Yes, but you can never, ever tell your mate about where she let you put it. This is the reason for the rule, you gets drunk, you forgets who you're talking too :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    I thought the rule was you can't just fúck her but you can date her:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭kevmy


    I'd have no problem with some of my mates dating my sister but on the other hand I wouldn't introduce some of my other mates to my sister.

    Also if you leave it completely open for your mates they *may* take advantage of the fact that the rule isn't there.

    Basically what I'm saying is that it wouldn't be cast iron for me - if one of my mates who I know is a good guy was interested in my sister for more than just a one night stand then that'd probably be ok.

    Otherwise back off!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    This, tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Long Onion


    kevmy wrote: »
    I'd have no problem with some of my mates dating my sister but on the other hand I wouldn't introduce some of my other mates to my sister.

    Also if you leave it completely open for your mates they *may* take advantage of the fact that the rule isn't there.

    Basically what I'm saying is that it wouldn't be cast iron for me - if one of my mates who I know is a good guy was interested in my sister for more than just a one night stand then that'd probably be ok.

    Otherwise back off!!!

    Methinks your sister puts it about a little too much for your liking?

    Phone number please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    \for one it would be strange as my mates are the people I joke with about some pretty sick and twisted stuff. That would have to stop :(
    Then there is the risk of being stuck in the middle between a good friend and a family member if they fell out. That would suck ass.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Dudess wrote: »
    What exactly is the logic behind that silly "rule"? Some guys say "it's just the way it is" etc - not a reason. I think it's a bit creepy actually - in the same way I find overly rigorous vetting of boyfriends by fathers creepy.

    And I know a man has every right to be concerned about his daughter's/sister's wellbeing but I'm talking about those who are OTT about it and seem to be more concerned about how it affects them rather than their sister/daughter.

    See, my sister is nine years younger than me.

    I'd question the motives of a 30 year old friend of mine wanting to hook with my sister tbh. Her last bf was the same age as me, and I was really concerned.

    Having said that, she does have a couple of mates who'd I'd jump if I was single.

    But, I've never looked at any of my own mates' sisters in that way. Just never occurred to me. Most of them were children when I 16/7/8/9 and I still kind of see them that way, if you know what I mean.

    The older ones were all bowlers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    It really depends on which one of my friends wants to be with my sister.

    If he's a very nice, respectful, non-sleazy guy, then it's ok, but if he's a bit of a lad then I would have a problem with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Ok, my opening post is too sparse. I'm not talking about much younger sisters, I'm not talking about the guys who act like dirtbags to women getting interested in one's sis (funny how that behaviour can be "backslappable" in other contexts though), I'm not talking about the walking disease-bag friends... It's a given that these are situations where it's not on.

    What I'm referring to is the "rule" that it must not be broken under any circumstances - that sisters are a no-no, end of story, even if the guy is a respectful, decent dude and he really loves the sister, and she really loves him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Dudess wrote: »
    What I'm referring to is the "rule" that it must not be broken under any circumstances - that sisters are a no-no, end of story, even if the guy is a respectful, decent dude and he really loves the sister, and she really loves him.

    In general I think friends should stay away from each others sisters, as
    there's loads of other women in the world (I know that doesn't really make sense), and it might change the dynamic of your relationship, especially if they break up or whatever.

    I guess it's about having to divide your loyalties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Then it goes back to the issue of being stuck in the middle. Let's say my bestest respectable friend goes out with my sis for a few years and they break up (maybe even add in an affair first) now I'm stuck in a horrible situation where my family ties may see me lose one of best friends. It's a bit selfish but looking at it from the brothers perspective there is a huge risk versus nearly no return.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭994


    It's common sense. Dont shit in your own (or your mates) garden. Its stupid crap like wimmenz dating their friends brother that ruin friendships...I'd have expected better from you Dudess :rolleyes:

    So going out with someone = defecating on them??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    994 wrote: »
    So going out with someone = defecating on them??

    Yes, unless you live some kind of sheltered, Catholic-guilt about sex lifestyle


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,392 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    younger sister; no.

    older sisters are fair game tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭cathysworld


    Wud it not be cool to have a good friend as a brother-in-law instead of some assh0le?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Jesus Juice


    sugarcubes wrote: »
    Meh, if it's good enough for Harry Potter ....

    The best magic trick he ever did in those books was to make some of those recessive ginger genes disappear.
    Thats it,close the thread.When you start getting Harry Potter references.....


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Wud it not be cool to have a good friend as a brother-in-law instead of some assh0le?

    Not if he's hup on yer sister.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭cathysworld


    Not if he's hup on yer sister.

    But unless you want to get hup on her there's no problem is der? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Long Onion


    Tell your buddy fcuk off, do his sister, make up ...

    ... there's always C ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭BDubliner


    Fellas like to think their sisters are angels but the fact is that most of them are right dirty and im not talking about in a hygienic way. I walked into my mates kitchen last week and saw my mates four sisters sitting naked on an upside down chair, most awkward two minutes of my life


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    But unless you want to get hup on her there's no problem is der? :D

    Let's all just pretend that our sisters don't do that sort of stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Let's all just pretend that our sisters don't do that sort of stuff.

    Pretend?

    They don't.

    Ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Nice call Dudess. I'm a guy and I completely don't understand this concept either. I have a suspicion/theory that guys who are ridiculously over-protective of their sister have a vague sort of attraction to them.

    I have a friend who's sister is pretty but not necessarily a head-turner, and the mere mention of her (even if it's more eloquent than "tits on her,wha?") is met with a stern don't-even-go-there look.

    I have a sister and I wouldn't give a **** if any of my friends were interested in her. It doesn't mean I don't care about her - quite the opposite - I'd want her to be happy with whoever she likes.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,725 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    One of my mates has an older sister who a few years ago was a fox, she's a couple of kids now so not so foxy.

    Another one has a cracking sister who I'd definitely do she's about 18 months younger than me and is out with our group a good bit, but man if i tapped that he'd go mental!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Dan Dare


    I walked into my mates kitchen last week and saw my mates four sisters sitting naked on an upside down chair, most awkward two minutes of my life[/quote]

    What happened next? :pac: Seriously though, its depressing to read how many (male) posters are equating sexual activity with dirt/excrement. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Is it not like hooking up with your mate's ex? There was always an unwritten rule in our gang that we didn't cross over...having said that not many sisters were shiftable. What about sisters mates? Some pretty tales could be told there.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 CRonaldo


    One of my mates has an older sister who a few years ago was a fox, she's a couple of kids now so not so foxy.

    Another one has a cracking sister who I'd definitely do she's about 18 months younger than me and is out with our group a good bit, but man if i tapped that he'd go mental!

    Rephrase that or I'l castrate off ur little willy, then u won't be able to even 'do' yer ma.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Personally I don't think it'd bother me.

    But I'd imagine for some blokes the thoughts of having to hang around with a mate while your sister tagged along all the time would be too much. You'd never get away from your family. And imagine being stuck in the middle of a bad break up.

    It's one of those silly bloke rules that really depends on the situation. If the intentions of your mate are good, well then it's fine.
    Although, regardless of how liberal you were I can't see too many blokes being too happy if their sister got Foxxy Velure on their mates!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Dan Dare wrote: »
    I walked into my mates kitchen last week and saw my mates four sisters sitting naked on an upside down chair, most awkward two minutes of my life

    I wouldn't have lasted two minutes tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    RedXIV wrote: »
    probably to do with comparasions in how they act. I've a sister of 18 and i'd trust NONE of my friends to go out with her. Thats because alot of my friends aren't nice, some wouldn't get her and others, just because i'm too used to them talking about girls as if they are objects (not in a bad way, just that i've no personal attachment to them). But as regards my sister, she can date pretty much anyone she wants as long as it's not one of the guys i hang around with. it'd be too weird for me also to date a friend's sister. Honestly don't think i could do it without messing up the friendship
    See, I just don't hang out with those kind of people. None that I would call best mates anyway.
    Dudess wrote: »
    What I'm referring to is the "rule" that it must not be broken under any circumstances - that sisters are a no-no, end of story, even if the guy is a respectful, decent dude and he really loves the sister, and she really loves him.
    Thats a load of crock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    stovelid wrote: »
    Pretend?

    They don't.

    Ever.

    Don't be silly, we all know they do. I've a niece and nephew, so I know my sister has done it. Twice.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    BDubliner wrote: »
    I walked into my mates kitchen last week and saw my mates four sisters sitting naked on an upside down chair, most awkward two minutes of my life

    30 seconds each ey?

    ... nothing awkward about that :rolleyes:

    - Drav!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    I have a sister and I wouldn't give a **** if any of my friends were interested in her.

    So if one of your friends was a bit of a sleaze who loves giving the details about his conquests (e.g. your sister shaves her pussy/has a loose pussy/I banged her in the ass) and rarely uses condoms, you wouldn't care?

    The problem I have is a lot of guys (probably not the sort of people who use boards) fit into the above category.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    What about family memebers being in your ****/spank bank?



    Not anybody related to Tommy Gavin tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Mena wrote: »
    Think it's silly, I've been married to my "mates" sister for 13 years now.

    What will happen if he finds out.?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Don't be silly, we all know they do. I've a niece and nephew, so I know my sister has done it. Twice.

    Nah


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Very reasonable responses here in fairness. There was a Personal Issues thread about it before and some awful crap was posted - "you just don't do it - stop trying to be liberal" etc, no attempts to back it up, or just spurious ones like "Would a brother like his sister getting gang-banged even if she wanted it? No. There you go" - as if the two are even remotely comparable.
    The "dividing loyalties" thing is a very good point all right - pretty horrendous being the go-between if there was a break-up. I think though, if the two really really like each other, that's a risk which has to be taken.
    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    I'm sure most guys wouldn't care if a lovely gentleman of a friend was dating his sister. The only problem is that most guys aren't.
    The "most of us guys are dirtbags" response is one I'd query: are most guys really that bad? I don't think so. I'd imagine most guys aren't OTT respectful gentlemen either... just in between, and nothing wrong with that.
    Des wrote: »
    See, my sister is nine years younger than me.

    I'd question the motives of a 30 year old friend of mine wanting to hook with my sister tbh.
    It might be nothing more sinister than finding her really attractive though.
    kaimera wrote: »
    younger sister; no.

    older sisters are fair game tbh.
    Wouldn't it depend on actual ages though? Younger sister could mean 25, older sister could mean 21.
    finisklin wrote: »
    Is it not like hooking up with your mate's ex?
    No.
    There was always an unwritten rule in our gang that we didn't cross over
    This is what I'm talking about, the unwritten rule that doesn't account for differing individuals.
    AARRRGH wrote: »
    So if one of your friends was a bit of a sleaze who loves giving the details about his conquests (e.g. your sister shaves her pussy/has a loose pussy/I banged her in the ass) and rarely uses condoms, you wouldn't care?
    Ah Jesus, a guy who carries on like that in the first place - well, I could understand his mate not wanting him near his sister. A guy who's any bit decent wouldn't say that kind of stuff.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Dudess wrote:
    What I'm referring to is the "rule" that it must not be broken under any circumstances - that sisters are a no-no, end of story, even if the guy is a respectful, decent dude and he really loves the sister, and she really loves him.
    The actual rule is

    If you've known a guy for more than 24 hours, his sister is off limits forever unless you actually marry her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Dudess wrote: »
    What exactly is the logic behind that silly "rule"? Some guys say "it's just the way it is" etc - not a reason. I think it's a bit creepy actually - in the same way I find overly rigorous vetting of boyfriends by fathers creepy.

    And I know a man has every right to be concerned about his daughter's/sister's wellbeing but I'm talking about those who are OTT about it and seem to be more concerned about how it affects them rather than their sister/daughter.

    The vast majority of relationships go wrong. Having a mate date your sister can also strain your friendship...not for any other reason than the constant truth that if he ****s it up in any way that he shouldn't have then you need to break his knees.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Dudess wrote: »
    Ah Jesus, a guy who carries on like that in the first place - well, I could understand his mate not wanting him near his sister. A guy who's any bit decent wouldn't say that kind of stuff.

    A lot of men (i.e. nearly all men) go on like that though... particularly after one night stands or a short fling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,475 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    The actual rule is

    If you've known a guy for more than 24 hours, his sister is off limits forever unless you actually marry her.

    If she's extremely hot I'd go for it....divorce is legal in this country..and besides you can always get new friends...and their sisters :)


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