Is it safe to use an aeg in the rain?

TunnelWeb

Hey all,

It probably sounds like a stupid question, but is it safe to use an aeg in the rain?

Puding

yes, just make shore you wipe it down and dry it out after, rush is not a good thing

TunnelWeb

Puding wrote: »

yes, just make shore you wipe it down and dry it out after, rush is not a good thing

Thanks.Would ya have to take it apart to dry it out?

bluestripe93

TunnelWeb wrote: »

Thanks.Would ya have to take it apart to dry it out?

no just dry it on the outside with a towel,
why would you want to use it in the rain ?

desertstorm

we live in Ireland, do you take an umbrella out to a skirmish bluestripe?

anyway... I've been to loads of skirmishes now where it's been lashing and havn't encountered any problems with rain, although you have to watch for rust if you have any steel/iron on the aeg's body

Didn't one guy fall in to the lake at the Take Aim Cup in rathbeggan with his gun and play on?....

Puding

why would you want to use it in the rain ?

chairsofters :rolleyes: :P

Firekitten

bluestripe93 wrote: »

no just dry it on the outside with a towel,
why would you want to use it in the rain ?

erm, because some of us arent sissies!:D

Leftyflip

bluestripe93 wrote: »

no just dry it on the outside with a towel,
why would you want to use it in the rain ?

Because it's Ireland we've no choice.
Because airsoft is awesome in all weather.
And because its fun.

markY6222

Firekitten wrote: »

erm, because some of us arent sissies!:D

Hahah lol! Good one

markY6222

Ya i always use my ump "N" Saw in the
Rain all good After:D

ED E

My mate Dan was in the trees with Richie before in a complete downpour(Some of us fecked off to the office:p). It was really coming down, we barely got back out with the flooding, the M50 was a mess. Danny P90 though, no problems, he just threw it in his kit bag and left it out to dry 3 hours later when we finally got back:)

Lordhogo

As some said watch out for rust of couse because I have left my airsoft out in the rain sometimes for a minute or two when im plinking out in the garden and metal parts rust very quickly.

Firekitten

You seen real assault rifles? :P some rust is usual after a while... even when you clean it off... it happens. Anyway, rust is a sign of how hardcore you are... means you are an allweathersofter...:rolleyes:

Lordhogo

Firekitten wrote: »

You seen real assault rifles? :P some rust is usual after a while... even when you clean it off... it happens. Anyway, rust is a sign of how hardcore you are... means you are an allweathersofter...:rolleyes:

Yeah so the next time it rains get all your airsoft equipment and put it out in the rain until it rusts so the next time you skirmish you can show your buddies just how hardcore you are.

DISCLAIMER: Its not actually a good idea to do that.:o

Masada

ive used a gun that was completely submerged in a river and still worked. theres not a whole lot rain or fresh water can do to the gun other than rust since water isnt nearly as conductive as its thought. you have to add stuff to it, like salt to make it more conductive.

your hopup wont work when you come up out of the water though, no friction means the bbs will just fall very sharply.

thermo

Firekitten wrote: »

You seen real assault rifles? :P some rust is usual after a while... even when you clean it off... it happens.I:

I don't think so,,,,,,,,,,, your rifle and your feet under no circumstances get neglected!!!!
:rolleyes:

NakedDex

You'd think wrong then. Basic metallurgical science and some "common" sense say otherwise. It not being neglected doesn't mean rust can't develop, especially in real assault rifles which go through heck and back in even training sessions, let alone actual wartime use. Rust prevails in such items eventually by using stress fractures from the operation of the item as starting points. Capillary action hold some water in place there (or worse still, a chemical), and the already weakened and exposed surface is set upon by oxidisation. This is also why rust develops faster around the likes of bolt heads and body joints.
From this point it's just a matter of determining the type of corrosion and trying to control or repair it, because you can't repair it and won't stop it. No amount of regular and professional maintenance can completey prevent even one spot of rust occuring occuring, but one spot is all that's needed to anchor in a patch of it growing. Rust is the biggest worry anyone dealing with exposed metals has because it's so tenacious.
Plus, it's possible for metal to develop rust in storage. Even in rooms and buildings that seem perfectly dry and comfortable, there can exist the right conditions for rust to take hold.

Incidentally, a hint especially for anyone storing their gear in a box/press/bag/case. You can pick up crystalline dehumidifiers relatively cheap now and it'll make a useful addition to any solid storage to inhibit rust development. If you use a bag or case, silica packs are also available (and are free with any electronics you buy). Throwing a few into your gear bags will inhibit rust on your rifles and mould on your webbing (not a replacement for drying you gear off. Sounds obvious but I've seen it).

Firekitten

Lordhogo wrote: »

Yeah so the next time it rains get all your airsoft equipment and put it out in the rain until it rusts so the next time you skirmish you can show your buddies just how hardcore you are.

DISCLAIMER: Its not actually a good idea to do that.:o

yep, although id love to see a rusty weesatch... those you have to specially roll in the dirt like your combats to make it look like you worked harder :rolleyes:

thermo wrote: »

I don't think so,,,,,,,,,,, your rifle and your feet under no circumstances get neglected!!!!
:rolleyes:

Kid, you've clearly never been inside an armoury.

Like Masada, I've kittypaddled accross a river before getting out and shooting people with that gun that wont work (the thinking at the time). It was that or use a very narrow foot bridge with a m60 pointed at it... whats that phrase? Necessity is the mother of all stupid ideas?

Craigsy

Remember kids, real war doesn't stop for bad weather. Besides it can be a lot more fun and tense in the rain. its not that much hassle to simply wipe the thing down when ya get home, sure if you're looking after them properly you should be checking to get heavy dirt off them anyway. They dont need to same amount of care as RS, but just give em a look and a wipe

Lemming

Craigsy wrote: »

Remember kids, real war doesn't stop for bad weather. Besides it can be a lot more fun and tense in the rain.

QFT. Personally I think that Sennybridge (to use an example some are familiar with) is at its best when the weather is absolutely rotten - We're talking neoprene wetsuits and canoes instead of Gortex boots here - as the bad weather makes everything feel that much 'closed in'

Craigsy

Lemming wrote: »

QFT. Personally I think that Sennybridge (to use an example some are familiar with) is at its best when the weather is absolutely rotten - We're talking neoprene wetsuits and canoes instead of Gortex boots here - as the bad weather makes everything feel that much 'closed in'

exactly, changes the environment, new sounds and all that. Makes it a bit more closer to real life

Toasty113

I bad weather airsoft. Better than boiling in you own skin.

thermo

Firekitten wrote: »

Kid, you've clearly never been inside an armoury.

maybe thats how YOU keep your rilfe, rusty,,,,,,,,,,, amuture!
i have never allowed a rifle (my own or issued) get rusty, a good clean and heavy oil before storage, upon being issued, a clean and light oil ready for use!

as for those who allow their weapons rust 2 words,,,,, GUN OIL!

Lemming

thermo wrote: »

maybe thats how YOU keep your rilfe, rusty,,,,,,,,,,, amuture!
i have never allowed a rifle (my own or issued) get rusty, a good clean and heavy oil before storage, upon being issued, a clean and light oil ready for use!

as for those who allow their weapons rust 2 words,,,,, GUN OIL!

I think you'll find that FK was most likely alluding to the fact that issued arms get battered to _f*ck_ by squaddies and generally given absolute dogs abuse.

And no matter how hard you try to maintain a rifle, it will eventually start to show wear and tear. That is fact thermo. You can slow things down, but you will never halt it.

I'd also ask where your level of vitriol towards FK comes from with your calls of "ammature."

thermo

wear and tear is fair enough but rust is neglect,,,,,,

Lemming

thermo wrote: »

wear and tear is fair enough but rust is neglect,,,,,,

As others have also pointed out; rust constitutes part of "wear and tear". All arms will eventually rust. All it takes is a spec to appear and take root. All the oiling in the world wont halt that. So that means that I can throw the "neglect" word right back at you by your own logic since you clearly can't eradicate it thermo. Unless you have some way of defying reality?

thermo

rifles if looked after properly dont just rust for example, my father bought a rifle, a s.m.l.e. it came out of the factory in 1943 after it was test fired it was cleaned, greased despite being 66 years old and having spent most of its life in an armoury it was not rusted its in pristine condition, so a good oiling or greasing prior to prolonged storage will ensure it comes off the rack the same way it goes on.

Lemming

thermo wrote: »

rifles if looked after properly dont just rust for example, my father bought a rifle, a s.m.l.e. it came out of the factory in 1943 after it was test fired it was cleaned, greased despite being 66 years old and having spent most of its life in an armoury it was not rusted its in pristine condition, so a good oiling or greasing prior to prolonged storage will ensure it comes off the rack the same way it goes on.

You are also making assumption that the rifle is used in fairly pristine conditions. Hand a rifle to a squadie and send him out on exercise for a few days in truly miserable, sh*tty weather. Then take the rifle back. No matter how clean you get it, there well may be the start of rust somewhere due to wear and tear on parts.

Thermo, I'm tired of repeating myself to you so I'll simply stop at this point.

ED E

Rew

thermo wrote: »

maybe thats how YOU keep your rilfe, rusty,,,,,,,,,,, amuture!
i have never allowed a rifle (my own or issued) get rusty, a good clean and heavy oil before storage, upon being issued, a clean and light oil ready for use!

as for those who allow their weapons rust 2 words,,,,, GUN OIL!

We will have less of the name calling and condescending remarks thanks.

Next time your finished cleaning a Steyr come find me and I will will show you dirt and rust on it, trust me.

This is the Airsoft forum. Airsoft guns are toys that don't get issued and It doesn't matter a tap if they are rusty, manky and abused if thats what you want to do with your toys its your right.

Leftyflip

If it's raining and I want to go to a skirmish, I'm going to a skirmish, its only rain...

Craigsy

Leftyflip wrote: »

If it's raining and I want to go to a skirmish, I'm going to a skirmish, its only rain...

+1

Skins waterproof

Firekitten

Thermo... sorry... but you're 15... your own or issued rifle? lol

As Rew and Lemming said, battle rifles get buggered... rusty, scratched... try keeping it clean out there...

I didnt say i let the working parts get rusty, but external parts do... it just happens.

Please dont try to tell me how to use a real rifle... ESPECIALLY when you have no experience yourself. 'Daddy's gun that was in grease for 50 years isnt the same thing.:cool:

thermo

Firekitten wrote: »

Thermo... sorry... but you're 15... your own or issued rifle? lol

As Rew and Lemming said, battle rifles get buggered... rusty, scratched... try keeping it clean out there...

I didnt say i let the working parts get rusty, but external parts do... it just happens.

Please dont try to tell me how to use a real rifle... ESPECIALLY when you have no experience yourself. 'Daddy's gun that was in grease for 50 years isnt the same thing.:cool:

your are a condecending f**k firekitten! im 25 years old and have been a profesional soldier for over six years now, so if your going to tell me what i am and am not then please get your facts straight!!!! no experience my ass, i have been proficient with a firearm while you still thought your barbies were cool!

o1s1n

thermo wrote: »

your are a condecending f**k firekitten! im 25 years old and have been a profesional soldier for over six years now, so if your going to tell me what i am and am not then please get your facts straight!!!! no experience my ass, i have been proficient with a firearm while you still thought your barbies were cool!

Banned for personal abuse

Craigsy

Its always an amazement of how off topic we can go, i mean like the answer to this threads would simply have to be, Yes, ah well sure

hightower1

thermo wrote: »

your are a condecending f**k firekitten! im 25 years old and have been a profesional soldier for over six years now, so if your going to tell me what i am and am not then please get your facts straight!!!! no experience my ass, i have been proficient with a firearm while you still thought your barbies were cool!

I think with experience like that I'd go on thermo's advice. That trumps and airsoft experience. Thermo is right.

Lemming

hightower1 wrote: »

I think with experience like that I'd go on thermo's advice. That trumps and airsoft experience. Thermo is right.

I see you didn't bother to read the comments made by FK about internals vs. externals then? Incidentally, both FK and Rew have "the experience" as well, both having military service under their respective belts.

So whom do you follow? person a? or persons b & c who say the opposite?

Puding

wow so many ego and 'experiance' being thrown around

can i introduce a revolutionary new concept that maybe both are right? i know from my 'experiance' that surface rust can develop but any armouror worth his salt would not not leave it there and any service man worth there salt would know how to minamize the chances of rust developing, problem is the conditions of a deployment may not allow them to perform all the preventative work, seen firearms come back froma 6month tour with only paint damage, seen firearms come back after a 24hour exercise in wales with issues

both pov are right in there way and any bit of common sense would tell you that you could find examples to back up any view put forward hear

there is no black and white answer

all i know is if i had been court with rust on my service rifle i would have been beasted hear and back to see how far it was

Smokerkl

Why you all going on about army and real squaddies weapons? This is an Airsoft Forum after all? And without offending anybody surely if Thermo gets a ban then so does kitten? Telling him he is 15 and no clue etc etc--- I think or presume most people here have some degree of military expertise or the like and rust is rust simply put if your service weapon gets rusty you get ya f*&^%*n head beasted for being a lazy scruffy little tw@t. Answer to the original question yes AEG's work fine in the rain and no they wont electrocute you unless you have some major wiring problems!!!
Im pretty sure the original poster was after wondering about the electronics part of the AEG's considiring electrics/water not a good mix??? real guns can live in water and sand and dirt and **** and all the rest of it but thats totally irrelevant as this is Airsoft not the bloody Military after all..
Sorry but my 2 cents worth
S..
P.S. No disrepect to Kitten or Thermo I just think handing out bans is a bit much like?? No yellow card warning system maybe??

Rew

Thread closed

o1s1n

Smokerkl wrote: »

Why you all going on about army and real squaddies weapons? This is an Airsoft Forum after all? And without offending anybody surely if Thermo gets a ban then so does kitten? Telling him he is 15 and no clue etc etc--- I think or presume most people here have some degree of military expertise or the like and rust is rust simply put if your service weapon gets rusty you get ya f*&^%*n head beasted for being a lazy scruffy little tw@t. Answer to the original question yes AEG's work fine in the rain and no they wont electrocute you unless you have some major wiring problems!!!
Im pretty sure the original poster was after wondering about the electronics part of the AEG's considiring electrics/water not a good mix??? real guns can live in water and sand and dirt and **** and all the rest of it but thats totally irrelevant as this is Airsoft not the bloody Military after all..
Sorry but my 2 cents worth
S..
P.S. No disrepect to Kitten or Thermo I just think handing out bans is a bit much like?? No yellow card warning system maybe??

1. If you have a problem with posts, report them. Don't try and moderate yourself.

2. There is a rule in the charter which states no personal abuse. Calling someone a 'condescending f**ck* is personal abuse. This is not something we take lightly and there is a 1 week ban for it. No excuses.

Now can everyone calm down and stick to answering the OPs question? It's fairly simple. I can't see the need to get knickers in a twist over this one.