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Recession over in France & Germany

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    #2
    Four-Percent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Four-Percent


    Rabble, Rabble, Rabble! I hate the government!


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    wudangclan
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    good news forum is that way
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    The Walsho
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    They still gave the world the Nazis.



    And the French, as if they need something else to be arrogant about.


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    BraziliaNZ
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    yes but Ger and France have many homegrown multinationals and lots of homegrown unique products that there will always be a market for. Ireland doesn't really have anything to export outside of agricultural products.


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    Ponster
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    We were never really in that much recession anyhow seeing as the country as been living through stagnation for about 15 years now. Also it's been 27 years since unemployment has dropped below 8%.

    The French capitalist system as compared to the anglo-saxon system usually results in the country being hit less by recessions but unable to profit when things are booming.


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    pickarooney
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    Ponster wrote: »
    We were never really in that much recession anyhow seeing as the country as been living through stagnation for about 15 years now. Also it's been 27 years since unemployment has dropped below 8%.

    The French capitalist system as compared to the anglo-saxon system usually results in the country being hit less by recessions but unable to profit when things are booming.

    You've been here that long you've starting using that ridiculous term? :D


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    Euro_Kraut
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    Wow 7 posts and 2 Nazi references already :rolleyes:


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    SEPT 23 1989
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    das ist wunderbare Nachrichten


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    Rebelheart
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    The Walsho wrote: »
    They still gave the world the Nazis.


    That was intelligent.


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    Ponster
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    You've been here that long you've starting using that ridiculous term? :D

    11 years :) though the term is correct when speaking of economic models.

    For those that don't live in France.....most people over here refer to English speakers as "anglosaxons" rather than "anglophonic". Trying to explain to them what the term means usually results in frowns and disinterested people.


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    Hal1
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    Rebelheart wrote: »
    That was intelligent.

    No that was genocide.


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    Wazdakka
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    Trust the French to surrender to the recession.


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    IvyTheTerrible
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    Ponster wrote: »
    We were never really in that much recession anyhow seeing as the country as been living through stagnation for about 15 years now. Also it's been 27 years since unemployment has dropped below 8%.

    The French capitalist system as compared to the anglo-saxon system usually results in the country being hit less by recessions but unable to profit when things are booming.

    What my boyfriend says is "We're always in a recession so we don't really notice La Crise!"


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    citizen_p
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    if ireland was on mainland europe...or connected we wouldnt be so fecked...


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    BraziliaNZ
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    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    What my boyfriend says is "We're always in a recession so we don't really notice La Crise!"

    why don't you just marry your boyfriend!


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    The Walsho
    Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭The Walsho


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    That was intelligent.

    It was in jest. See also, my stereotyping of the French.


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    Four-Percent
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    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    why don't you just marry your boyfriend!

    Yeah, if he's so great then why don't you just go and live in France!


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    Rej
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    Ponster wrote: »
    For those that don't live in France.....most people over here refer to English speakers as "anglosaxons" rather than "anglophonic".

    My hubby is french & I have often heard English people being called Roast Beef ;)

    Seriously, it depends on where you are in France, my husband is from around Amiens (north near belgium) That part of france was already in the depths of an economic downturn a few years ago.. and there is not much sign of anything changing there anytime soon


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    Wertz
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    How long before the ECB increases rates on the back of this news? Or do they wait until some more countries are showing signs of recovery?


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    Ponster
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    Rej wrote: »
    That part of france was already in the depths of an economic downturn a few years ago...

    Paris is the same depending on your education, age and most especially colour of skin.

    Unemployment figures for under-26 non-white French (3rd Generation Muslim French) is between 25% and 30%.


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    Magenta
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    Does anyone know if Ireland will be out of a recession anytime soon?
    Although I guess the question isn't when we'll be out of it, but when people will stop complaining about it, and bringing it up in every conversation! :cool:


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    Jesus Wept
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    wudangclan wrote: »
    good news forum is that way
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    +1, let's have a good news forum.


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    Pal
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    Magenta wrote: »
    Does anyone know if Ireland will be out of a recession anytime soon?
    :

    Recession is a technical term. It means two consecutive quarters of negative growth. Ireland could buck that trend at some point but it wouldn't mean we were in good shape.

    Simple fact is that things will be pretty depressed here for a quite few more years at least so sit back and relax.


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    Fratton Fred
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    Rej wrote: »
    My hubby is french & I have often heard English people being called Roast Beef ;)

    pretty naff insult though compared to Froggy isn't it.
    Wertz wrote: »
    How long before the ECB increases rates on the back of this news? Or do they wait until some more countries are showing signs of recovery?

    I'm not sure if they will just yet. The Euro is pretty strong as it is and higher interest rates will make it even stronger still. This could damage German exports and will hit the likes of Ireland and Spain quite hard.

    The last thing france and Germany want is to damage the euro by countries leaving the eurozone.


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    mathie
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    das ist wunderbare Nachrichten

    Epischer Fehler.


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    Cookie_Monster
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    pretty naff insult though compared to Froggy Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey isn't it.

    Officially "froggy" was replaced after WW2.
    :D


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    Ponster
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    pretty naff insult though compared to Froggy isn't it.

    Not for the French. It refers to the way that the British have traditional cooked meat until it's tougher than leather. For a nation that takes its food so seriously it's a pretty low insult :)


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    dotsman
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    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Damn socialist countries! Where's Bertie Ahern, that great "socialist", when you (don't, definitely don't) need him?

    Some day we will become a mature socially progressive European economy. Maybe if (when?) the IMF finally comes in we can get away from Reaganism/Thatcherism/Harneyism?

    Actually, in both of these countries, they have centre-right governments.

    It's our BS socialist policies that got us in this mess, and until we we rid ourselves of BS socialism, we're going to stay in this mess.


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    G_R
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    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Ireland doesn't really have anything to export outside of agricultural products.

    correct me if im wrong but afaik agriculture accounts for less than 10% of ireland exports


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    mental07
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    The Walsho wrote: »
    They still gave the world the Nazis.



    And the French, as if they need something else to be arrogant about.

    Wow. Stereotype much?



    I still can't see talk of 'la crise'* and 'pouvoir d'achat'# abating in France anytime soon.

    *crisis
    #purchasing power


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