Baby P's abusers revealed

Otis Driftwood

Baby P's mother and her sadistic boyfriend have been named for the first time after a court order keeping their identities secret expired.Tracey Connelly, 28,and Steven Barker, 33, were responsible for the death of 17-month-old Peter Connelly in his blood-spattered room in August 2007.

He had suffered 50 injuries, including fractured ribs and a broken back.

It can also be disclosed that the third defendant in the case, Jason Owen, 37, is Barker's brother and that the pair were also accused of assaulting their own grandmother.

Connelly and Barker, of Tottenham, north London, were sentenced in May for causing or allowing Peter's death.

Father-of-four Owen was also jailed for the same offence, which took place while he was staying at Peter's home.

The semi-detached house was filthy and dead animals - snake food - were left lying around the house, along with pornography.

Connelly's two dogs and Barker's rottweiler Kaiser, which was used to terrify Peter, also lived there.

Doctors, social workers and police failed to save Peter despite him being on the Haringey Council child protection register.

After the trio's Old Bailey trial ended in November last year, there was public outrage at the way Peter was let down by the authorities.

All three defendants were cleared of murder

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090811/tuk-revealed-horror-of-baby-p-s-home-lif-dba1618.html


Ive followed this case since it first came to light (as Im sure alot of you have) and I am still as shocked and enraged that something like this could happen as I was when I first heard about it.
I simply do not have the words to express how I feel about the level of abuse this poor little mite went through before eventually giving up the fight.
I have tears in my fcuking eyes as I write this.

An innocent child endured endless horror and torture at the hands of people that should have been protecting him,Peter was unforgiveably failed at every corner by people that are paid to protect those who cannot protect themselves.This case proves (if there was any doubt) that there are monsters in this world.The boy went through a slew of abuse that a normal person would not inflict on a fcuking animal and was left alone to die in his own little cot.

If ever there was a valid case for vigilante justice this is it and I can say with not one shred of doubt that I hope the 3 bastards that did this and allowed it to happen are made to suffer each and every day of their misreable fcuking lives until they are eventually put down like the dogs they are.

Stark

Protection and new identities my arse. Better to let them be taken care of and the world can be a slightly better place.

Mossy Monk

nedtheshed wrote: »

If ever there was a valid case for vigilante justice this is it

If vigilante justice is ok for this then it has to be ok for everything. And who is going to punish the vigilantes for their murdering ways.

stovelid

Hate even thinking about that case.

Stark

Mossy Monk wrote: »

If vigilante justice is ok for this then it has to be ok for everything.

No it doesn't. Claus von Stauffenberg was honoured as a hero rather than a would be murderer recently. There are certain times where you can make an exception to standard morals imo.

Stark

stovelid wrote: »

Hate even thinking about that case.

Made me sick just to watch the video where they showed their faces. Not to mention to even think of the the actual abuse.

SV

Tie em up and charge 20 for each punch people take at them.

I'll gladly spend a good 1000 on beating the face off those pricks.

Stark

Tbh, it would chill me even to throw a punch at them, I wouldn't have the stomach to bring myself down to their level. But given that the justice system has failed and they're only locked away from society for a short time, I would certainly sleep more soundly knowing that they had been taken care of in some manner. At the moment, what's to stop them breeding another child post-release for their sadistic amusement?

Otis Driftwood

Mossy Monk wrote: »

If vigilante justice is ok for this then it has to be ok for everything. And who is going to punish the vigilantes for their murdering ways.

Ok for everything?
That implies that you think every crime is the same and should be treated the same.

Do you not think this is a little different from someone stealing a car?

These 3 deserve to die,of that I have no doubt.

This is an instance where the punishment should fit the crime and Im hoping nay willing the cons in whatever prison these scumfcuks are housed in to wield swift and brutal justice.

It is the very least they deserve.

SV

Stark wrote: »

Tbh, it would chill me even to throw a punch at them, I wouldn't have the stomach to bring myself down to their level.

I don't view it as bringing myself down to their level.
For me to be at their level i'd have to do what they did to a defenceless child.

genericguy

i hope the prison officers find something more creative to do when they boil the kettle for tea. absolute bastards, they tortured a child to death, a fcuking child, and still people are using morality as an argument against what should be done to them. morality goes out the window when you decide that it's fun to batter a baby. i hope nothing bad ever happens to the children of these bleeding hearts.

thomond2006

They should get the Russians to reconstruct the gulags for these heinous pricks.

To Baby: RIP

walshb

Hey, the law is the law, and unfortunately scum like this have the right to
be protected. I makes me sick, but it's our laws.

BTW, the man was given a life sentence wasn't he?
For raping a two year old girl. I just hope to god
this animal serves at least 30 years.

The story seems to be intimating that he too may well be released
soon or sooner than I would expect a lifer to be released

The sentences imposed for the death of the baby were sickeningly lenient.
Despicable justice system, just like our own!

beardo81

An eye for an eye..... those ****ers should die screaming

CCCP^

They look like fcuking idiots. I'm delighted now that there will be no place to hide for these scumbags.

Dankoozy

lol i'm so ****ing sick of hearing about this case already, will they ever just shut up about it.

oh wait then they have nothing for slow news days

SV

Dankoozy wrote: »

lol i'm so ****ing sick of hearing about this case already, will they ever just shut up about it.

oh wait then they have nothing for slow news days

erm, that's nice.
do you understand the concept of 'news' ?

Red_Marauder

Please don't consider this comment any sort slight on the genuine horror of this case. However. Why do we think that any brutal murder is any more serious or deserving of physical punishment than when it happens to an adult, for example? Murders that happen every day of the week. I hate to say this, but maybe because a toddler is cute?

The point is, we should be outraged more often at cases of violence, and not responding to them in kind.

Otis Driftwood

walshb wrote: »

Hey, the law is the law, and unfortunately scum like this have the right to
be protected. I makes me sick, but it's our laws.

BTW, the man was given a life sentence wasn't he?
For raping a two year old girl. I just hope to god
this animal serves at least 30 years.

The story seems to be intimating that he too may well be released
soon or sooner than I would expect a lifer to be released

The sentences imposed for the death of the baby were sickeningly lenient.
Despicable justice system, just like our own!

Jason Owen got convicted of raping a 2 year old.There is a piece in todays Indo about it.The girl was the youngest person in British court history to give evidence in a sex assault case.

Tuesday August 11 2009

The couple responsible for the death of Baby P were identified last night after an English court order giving them anonymity expired.

Tracey Connelly and her lover Steven Barker were responsible for the death of 17-month-old Peter Connelly in his blood-spattered room in August 2007. He had suffered 50 injuries, including fractured ribs and a broken back.

The third defendant in the case, Jason Owen (37), is Barker's brother.

Connelly was an abused child, fathered by a man paid to have sex with her mother. By her mid-20s, she had four children of her own.

A "lazy, inadequate" mother in the words of her own barrister, she would spend her days on internet chatrooms and rarely bothered with housework or cared about her or her children's hygiene.

Steven Barker was a man of extremely low intelligence who tortured animals as a child and would later go on to rape a two-year-old girl.

Dangerous

The combination of Tracey Connelly and Steven Barker was already a dangerous one before they took the fatal decision to allow Jason Owen, Barker's older brother, into their home.

The violent streak that the brothers possessed had already been revealed to their own family when they allegedly attacked their 82-year-old grandmother in an attempt to make her change her will so that they would benefit from it.

On one occasion, they locked her in a wardrobe and shook it over and over again. On another, they are said to have beaten her up after donning masks to frighten her.

The pair were arrested after Mrs Barker's daughter called the police.

They were charged with grievous bodily harm but before the case could come to court Mrs Barker, who had been moved to a care home, died of pneumonia, in January 1996.

With their main witness dead and with no medical evidence to support a manslaughter or attempted murder charge, Kent Police dropped the case -- a decision which is said to have stunned detectives from the Metropolitan Police when they read the case file during the Baby P investigation.

Now, reunited again at 37 Penshurst Road, Tottenham, they would make Connelly's child Peter Connelly the target of their abuse, while she turned a blind eye.

Barker had apparently been the victim of abuse himself. His sister told the Old Bailey that Barker had been "petrified" of his older brother, Owen.

Both brothers were originally named Barker but Owen changed his name after a family argument.

It was more than a decade later that Barker met Tracey Connelly. She was in a relationship with Peter's natural father. She split with Peter's father when the boy was five months old and, shortly afterwards, Barker moved into the house on Penshurst Road with Connelly and her four children -- a fact hidden from the social services.

When the child was nine months old, Owen moved in. He was on the run with his 15-year-old girlfriend and was trying to avoid the police finding him and the girl, who had left home to be with 37-year-old Owen.

The family that Barker and Owen had moved in with was one in which abuse was rife. Tracey Connelly's family was well known to social services.

She had been taken from home at age 12 when, noting that her mother was a habitual cannabis smoker unfit to raise her, social services had stepped in and sent her to a reform school.

This intervention did not take place before the tawdry details of how she had been conceived had been revealed to her, while she was still a child; the man she had thought was her father had paid another man to have sex with her mother while he watched.

Peter Connelly -- who would become known as Baby P -- was the next family member to suffer abuse.

Despite the fact that he and two of his siblings were on Haringey Council's child protection register, he was beaten and tortured so badly that he had 60 separate injuries which officials missed.

He was found dead on August 3, 2007, aged 17 months, having swallowed his own tooth as a result of a fatal blow the previous evening. Connelly, Barker and Owen denied that they had been involved in the abuse.

Barker told the police: "I have never laid a finger on Peter . . . if anyone says I admitted killing Peter they are lying.

Bedroom

He also reacted to an allegation that Owen had found him in the child's bedroom "sweating and excited", saying: "It is a lie."

And police sources say that Barker still denies everything.

A source said: "He is convinced it is all a big mistake and that he will get out soon. He won't accept responsibility for any of it."

Later it was established that, as well as the abuse that he had meted out to Baby P, Barker had also raped a two-year-old girl. Her name will never be publicly revealed but details of her ordeal were told in court when she became the youngest sexual abuse victim to give evidence at the Old Bailey.

She provided the courtroom with a heartbreaking narrative:

"I was asleep and he woke me up -- he was being naughty -- he pulled his clothes down."

None of the three was convicted of murder. Connelly was sentenced to a minimum of five years in prison for her part in her son Peter's death, and will be eligible for parole in August 2012.

Barker was jailed for life with a minimum of 10 years for raping a two-year-old girl and given a 12-year term to run concurrently for his role in the little boy's death.

He cannot be released until August 2017.

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/evil-couple-behind-horrific-death-of-baby-p-revealed-1856064.html

dlofnep

Burn them at the stake.

I'm serious.

Dankoozy

Red_Marauder wrote: »

Please don't consider this comment any sort slight on the genuine horror of this case. However. Why do we think that any brutal murder is any more serious or deserving of physical punishment than when it happens to an adult, for example? Murders that happen every day of the week. I hate to say this, but maybe because a toddler is cute?

The point is, we should be outraged more often at cases of violence, and not responding to them in kind.

nah, i'm quite sick of being outraged. this stuff used to bother me, but not anymore. the paedophile priest scandal of a few months ago doesn't bother me either - its already been done, nothing can be done about it anymore. there is too much bad **** going on right now to be getting outraged over what happened in the past

we'llallhavetea_old

Red_Marauder wrote: »

Please don't consider this comment any sort slight on the genuine horror of this case. However. Why do we think that any brutal murder is any more serious or deserving of physical punishment than when it happens to an adult, for example? Murders that happen every day of the week. I hate to say this, but maybe because a toddler is cute?

The point is, we should be outraged more often at cases of violence, and not responding to them in kind.

nope, its because they are defenceless.

personally if i had my way, i would have every single thing that they did to baby p done to them. i think thats fair.

Otis Driftwood

Red_Marauder wrote: »

Please don't consider this comment any sort slight on the genuine horror of this case. However. Why do we think that any brutal murder is any more serious or deserving of physical punishment than when it happens to an adult, for example? Murders that happen every day of the week. I hate to say this, but maybe because a toddler is cute?

The point is, we should be outraged more often at cases of violence, and not responding to them in kind.

I know where you are coming from but this is so far beyond a simple murder case.

A toddler,was systematically abused to the point that he eventually died of his injuries.Children by definition cannot protect themselves and one this young couldnt even talk enough to tell anyone about what was going on.

To me,that makes this crime more heinous than the vast majority of murders that happen,thats not to say I view any murder of an innocent person as anything but heinous.

genericguy

Dankoozy wrote: »

lol i'm so ****ing sick of hearing about this case already, will they ever just shut up about it.

oh wait then they have nothing for slow news days

well why don't you go and buy the sun so you can read about the handbag jade goody bought in heaven?

walshb

nedtheshed wrote: »

Jason Owen got convicted of raping a 2 year old.There is a piece in todays Indo about it.The girl was the youngest person in British court history to give evidence in a sex assault case.




http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/evil-couple-behind-horrific-death-of-baby-p-revealed-1856064.html

It clearly says in the quoted text that it was Barker who got life for raping a two year old, not Owen

ronbyrne2005

The mother looks like a neanderthal in the published photo.

That_Guy

Red_Marauder wrote: »

Please don't consider this comment any sort slight on the genuine horror of this case. However. Why do we think that any brutal murder is any more serious or deserving of physical punishment than when it happens to an adult, for example? Murders that happen every day of the week. I hate to say this, but maybe because a toddler is cute?

The point is, we should be outraged more often at cases of violence, and not responding to them in kind.

Because a baby can't defend itself whereas an adult has more of a chance to do so.

walshb

Red_Marauder wrote: »

Please don't consider this comment any sort slight on the genuine horror of this case. However. Why do we think that any brutal murder is any more serious or deserving of physical punishment than when it happens to an adult, for example? Murders that happen every day of the week. I hate to say this, but maybe because a toddler is cute?

The point is, we should be outraged more often at cases of violence, and not responding to them in kind.

Hey, some adults are cute. It's more to do with what has already been said. Children are the most vulnerable people in our society and need protection and they are helpless and cannot put up any sort of defence, physically or even verbally.

That is why I always will find it bizarre that it's illegal in Ireland for an adult to strike another adult, yet adults can strike children, smack them that is, with impunity!

Assault is assault and if we as adults are protected against it, surely the weakest
people in our society need the same laws

Poor Uncle Tom

This is one time I'd gladly stoop low enough to take my anger out on them physically. I don't think they deserve any protection from any authorities. This is made all the worse by the fact that these people were the parents and family of the infant, the ones supposed to protect and love the child.

Sickening.

Lollipops23

i'm usually against capital punishment....but in cases like this i struggle to see a reason why scum like this should be allowed to live.

honestly, i don't see how they could be cleared of murder;they killed him and tortured him:mad:

Mossy Monk

nedtheshed wrote: »

These 3 deserve to die,of that I have no doubt.

No they don't deserve to die. Death would be too easy for them. They need to live out the rest of their days in the most basic of prison cells and be allowed absolutely no interaction with anyone.

Otis Driftwood

walshb wrote: »

It clearly says in the quoted text that it was Barker who got life for raping a two year old, not Owen

I see that,my mistake.

Mossy Monk wrote: »

No they don't deserve to die. Death would be too easy for them. They need to live out the rest of their days in the most basic of prison cells and be allowed absolutely no interaction with anyone.

When I said they deserve to die,I dont mean via electric chair or some other "humane" execution means.I mean die via the inhuman means that Peter was forced to go through.
IMO,locking them up for good is not be-fitting what they did.

outsourced_ire

They should never be let out. And according to the sky news website when that b!tch does get out she'll get a new identity, a make over, and a trainer to help her lose weight.

The overweight inmate has told friends that she plans a series of holidays to Egypt, Greece and Italy and her life would be "one long party".

The whole thing just makes me sick.

My name is URL

For once I'd agree with capital punishment

Though tbh, something like this needed to happen to draw a line under the failings in how social services operate in the UK.. if the baby didn't die there'd be alot of things that wouldn't have changed, and alot more children would have suffered

greendom

All this talk of "burning at the stake" and painfull deaths are a bit much tbh. I really don't think that society should stoop to the level of these heinous crimes.

In effect it is saying that is ok to inflict pain and murder

walshb

The sad thing is that in a few days, this will be old news, all forgotten and life will go on.
When these lowlifes are released, again, major uproar, a few days and all forgotten!

JupiterKid

Sick, sadistic and evil scum. That is what those three are. They made every minute of the child's life a living hell.:mad:

How could a mother do that to her own chuild? She must be psycopathic to have not allowed but participate in the abuse.

They face retribution in jail. It will take just one opportunity...

walshb

JupiterKid wrote: »

Sick, sadistic and evil scum. That is what those three are. They made every minute of the child's life a living hell.:mad:

How could a mother do that to her own chuild? She must be psycopathic to have not allowed but participate in the abuse.

They face retribution in jail. It will take just one opportunity...

Retribution from whom in jail?

These scum will be housed with fellow scum who couldn't give
a toss about their crimes. Barker will be locked up with fellow vile
animals and the chances are they will get their kicks out of telling
their crimes. There is no way that Barker will be housed with the
ordinary decent criminal.

Abi

greendom wrote: »

All this talk of "burning at the stake" and painfull deaths are a bit much tbh. I really don't think that society should stoop to the level of these heinous crimes.

In effect it is saying that is ok to inflict pain and murder

The talk might die down, but what they did was so grotesque that the mere mention of it will set blood boiling again. I agree with you in saying that one shouldn't stoop to their level. I do think however, they deserve to die. They'd get the lethal injection if I had my way.

blogga

The morning after pill should be given free in urban wastelands with every bag of chips.

Otis Driftwood

My name is URL wrote: »

Though tbh, something like this needed to happen to draw a line under the failings in how social services operate in the UK.. if the baby didn't die there'd be alot of things that wouldn't have changed, and alot more children would have suffered

Thats the only thing that can be taken from this case.

Like most things that happen for the good in this world,it usually takes something truly appaling to occur before those wheels are set in motion.

GodSaveTheQueen

/b/rabble

My name is URL

GodSaveTheQueen wrote: »

/b/rabble

oh noes!

GodSaveTheQueen

My name is URL wrote: »

oh noes!

Not really :rolleyes:

Latchy

Baby P ..were does one even begin to express revulsion ?

All the printed words in a newspaper and on a forum like this would never even begin do to justice to that child .

Stark

walshb wrote: »

Hey, the law is the law, and unfortunately scum like this have the right to
be protected. I makes me sick, but it's our laws.

BTW, the man was given a life sentence wasn't he?
For raping a two year old girl. I just hope to god
this animal serves at least 30 years.

The story seems to be intimating that he too may well be released
soon or sooner than I would expect a lifer to be released

The sentences imposed for the death of the baby were sickeningly lenient.
Despicable justice system, just like our own!

What a pity the child didn't get the same protection. From reading of the article, the guy got "life" as in 10 years and his rape sentence was to be served "concurrently" (like wtf is that about) with his manslaughter sentence.

5 years for the woman is frighteningly short. She'll probably be out in 3. Society's morals will dictate that we allow her to leave with her reproductive system intact as well. Ready to produce another toy for her amusement.

walshb

Stark wrote: »

What a pity the child didn't get the same protection. From reading of the article, the guy got "life" as in 10 years and his rape sentence was to be served "concurrently" (like wtf is that about) with his manslaughter sentence.

Yes, life, with a minimum of ten years to be served. That struck me as odd. I have never heard of a life sentence with a minimum? A life sentence has no minimum, or at least it should not have. I smell a rat here. Gotta' be honest, if it was a relation of mine, I would gladly butcher that bastard and serve my time.

asdasd

eugenics, ftw.

K-Ren

I really wish torture was allowed for certain prisoners.

El Siglo

I've said it before and I'll say it again, we should have never have gotten rid of this! I'm serious, in our Celtic Tiger Cosmopolitan self righteousness we've neglected that monsters exist in our society, and how really the best way to deal with them is that they should be treated to a trip to the gallows and do the 'Spandau Ballet'. Like these bastards in England we have the exact same bastards in Ireland, and they'll abuse their children while bleeding heart do-gooders come to their aid while they find themselves or Jesus, or Mohammed in prison and really never show remorse and live in utter denial. Death is too good for these creatures.

carlybabe1

Red_Marauder wrote: »

Please don't consider this comment any sort slight on the genuine horror of this case. However. Why do we think that any brutal murder is any more serious or deserving of physical punishment than when it happens to an adult, for example? Murders that happen every day of the week. I hate to say this, but maybe because a toddler is cute?

The point is, we should be outraged more often at cases of violence, and not responding to them in kind.

IMO, its because babies/toddlers/puppies/cats cannot defend themselves against vicious fully grown thugs. Of course murder is despicable, but its especially heinous when the victim is deliberately targeted because of its inability to fight back. There were four other older kids in this house, but no reports of abuse towards them