Worlds Strongest Man to enter MMA

RugbyFanatic

http://www.fightersonlymagazine.co.uk/news/viewarticle.php?id=2855


Ready to see Lesnar get thrown around like a rag doll :pac:







seriously anyone with the insane power he has would be dangerous. Apparently he has trained in karate and boxing.

cowzerp

When it hits the ground Brocks strenght would be far superior as its functional strenght and technique, just been strong without technique will not hack it on the ground against someone like brock with knowledge of holding position while pounding your face, unless this dude knocked brock out quick then he's a gonner if this fight was to happen, also this would make MMA a real freak show and i for 1 would not like it.

rovert

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helimachoptor

Eh isn't Mark Henry the worlds strongest man

jayteecork

Thought it was Magnus Magnusson.

muckwarrior

jayteecork wrote: »

Thought it was Magnus Magnusson.

Is that what he's doing to keep busy now he's finished mastermind? :pac:

RugbyFanatic

This guy is probably powerful enough to break bones simply by squeezing. Strong man comps test for steroids he was caught out in 2005 but passed every other time. In fairness hes trained karate since he was a kid and done amateur boxing for years so he does have some kind of MMA backround. If he gets some training in wrestling he would be a serious threat imagine his slams

dlofnep

Is that that Pudzisomethingorother chap?

I bet he could tap you with a headlock!

Jumpy

Pudzionowski is scarily strong, but I cant see him fighting. I have watched a lot of the strongman comps and he 'lumbers' (thats the only way of putting it I can think of), can see him having the movement for fighting.

cowzerp

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

In fairness hes trained karate since he was a kid and done amateur boxing for years so he does have some kind of MMA backround.

Boxing is great but not when your a big slow dude, he'll beat some eejits with his strenght till he fights a real MMA fighter

even the likes of a finished tim sylvia would torturer him to be straight with ya, Your overestimating lifting strenghts benefit in fighting.


Brock does not win purely based on strenght, his wrestling ability is key to using this strenght and this level of wrestling takes many years to learn..

jayteecork

muckwarrior wrote: »

Is that what he's doing to keep busy now he's finished mastermind? :pac:

Magnus Ver Magnusson was who I was thinking!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Ver_Magnusson

RugbyFanatic

I am well aware Lesnar's world class wrestling and not his strength is what wins him the fights but I think when you are as powerfully strong as this guy is to say it wouldn't be an enourmous benefit in the octagon is just wrong. He is so powerful its pretty likely he would be able to get out of any submission. As for being big and slow no ones seen him box so we really don't know and hes the same weight as Lesnar who seems to be quick enough for a heavyweight. I really think your underestimating just how powerfully strong this guy is....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUcXvwYOEXk&feature=related

Raze_them_all

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

I am well aware Lesnar's world class wrestling and not his strength is what wins him the fights but I think when you are as powerfully strong as this guy is to say it wouldn't be an enourmous benefit in the octagon is just wrong. He is so powerful its pretty likely he would be able to get out of any submission. As for being big and slow no ones seen him box so we really don't know and hes the same weight as Lesnar who seems to be quick enough for a heavyweight. I really think your underestimating just how powerfully strong this guy is....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUcXvwYOEXk&feature=related

Rear naked choke.... Lesnar is quick enough because he's always worked his explosiveness be it wrestling, wwe or american football. I really think your over estimating this guy.

cowzerp

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

. I really think your underestimating just how powerfully strong this guy is....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUcXvwYOEXk&feature=related

Yeah but he wont be fighting a plane on a runway will he.

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

As for being big and slow no ones seen him box so we really don't know and hes the same weight as Lesnar who seems to be quick enough for a heavyweight

Lesnar is fast due to training to be fast at wrestling for many years, this lad is strong at doing lifting but that does not mean he will be fast at shooting for a takedown or a sprawl.

Going by your logic we should just fill MMA full of power lifters and all the MMA fighters might aswell retire, maybe move over to power lifing as there may be a void to be filled in over there.

jayteecork

If he's able to channel that sort of power in a decent punch he could literally kill someone.

dunkamania

MMA is a skill sport. I have been tapped out by people 30kg lighter than me, and have tapped people 30kg heavier than me.

rovert

RugbyFanatic's logic seems to be straight out of 1993.

People with Pudzianowski's background unlikely train extensively for cardio. Someone with that amount of mass on them would gass VERY early in a fight.

cowzerp

jayteecork wrote: »

If he's able to channel that sort of power in a decent punch he could literally kill someone.

Lets get 1 thing straight, if he was that devastating at boxing he would do boxing, i can guarantee you he would not have punch power like Tyson or Foreman who never killed anyone with 1 punch..

RugbyFanatic

rovert wrote: »

RugbyFanatic's logic seems to be straight out of 1993.

People with Pudzianowski's background unlikely extensively for cardio. Someone with that amount of mass on them would gass VERY early in a fight.

There is no need for everyone to be so condescending. The fact is this isn't simply a powerlifter but as I've already stated someone who has trained karate for decades and done boxing for years. He does have an MMA backround. As for gassing early if he can run around for 5mins carrying a 300kg rock I reckon he isn't that far off cardio wise

cowzerp

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

The fact is this isn't simply a powerlifter but as I've already stated someone who has trained karate for decades and done boxing for years. He does have an MMA backround.

Karate and Boxing does not give you an MMA background, it gives you 2 areas of MMA fighting but not an MMA background, he does not have an MMA background.

RugbyFanatic

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Rear naked choke.... Lesnar is quick enough because he's always worked his explosiveness be it wrestling, wwe or american football. I really think your over estimating this guy.

Are you seriously saying a world class powerlifter doesn't have explosiveness? He is likely to be far more explosive than Lesnar because of his backround

Raze_them_all

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

There is no need for everyone to be so condescending. The fact is this isn't simply a powerlifter but as I've already stated someone who has trained karate for decades and done boxing for years. He does have an MMA backround. As for gassing early if he can run around for 5mins carrying a 300kg rock I reckon he isn't that far off cardio wise

We're not being condecending we are arguing our point of view from experience. If the sport was all about brute strength then it'd be full of only body builders and powerlifters. Also the weights he carries aren't exactly hitting him back now are they?

cowzerp

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

Are you seriously saying a world class powerlifter doesn't have explosiveness? He is likely to be far more explosive than Lesnar because of his backround

he'd have an explosive squat, not an explosive wrestling shoot..

Raze_them_all

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

Are you seriously saying a world class powerlifter doesn't have explosiveness? He is likely to be far more explosive than Lesnar because of his backround

That's exactly what I'm saying. He can lift things up, how fast do you think he can shoot in?

Fallen Buckshot

yeah but hows his Jits

JoeyJJ

There is a great example of how skills can overcome power if you look at Dream 9 Super Hulk competition. Sapp has some skills and Minowa man gave up 150lbs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPnvSiOupX0

Killme00

Geoff Capes would eat him for breakfast.

jayteecork

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Also the weights he carries aren't exactly hitting him back now are they?

Like Chong Li says to Vam Damme in Bloodsport.

"Very good, but brick not hit BACK!"

RugbyFanatic

cowzerp wrote: »

Karate and Boxing does not give you an MMA background, it gives you 2 areas of MMA fighting but not an MMA background, he does not have an MMA background.

Yet Lesnar started with only wrestling. Theres no reason why at 32 he couldn't start training in wrestling and jiu jitsu like Lesnar.

The Davestator

I'm NOT an MMA expert however Strong man competitions are much better at building functional strength than powerlifitng or body building etc. Your whole body gets stronger functionally due to unstable nature of a lot of the events - flipping a 300 kg tyre requires full body strength for example.

Its great that people have strong feelings about it but no one will know what he's like till he fights.
(he could be like that useless massive ex football player who gets slapped around in K1, cant remember his name)

jayteecork

The Davestator wrote: »

I'm NOT an MMA expert however Strong man competitions are much better at building functional strength than powerlifitng or body building etc. Your whole body gets stronger functionally due to unstable nature of a lot of the events - flipping a 300 kg tyre requires full body strength for example.

Its great that people have strong feelings about it but no one will know what he's like till he fights.
(he could be like that useless massive ex football player who gets slapped around in K1, cant remember his name)

Bob Sapp?
It's always Bob Sapp.

RugbyFanatic

Raze_them_all wrote: »

We're not being condecending we are arguing our point of view from experience. If the sport was all about brute strength then it'd be full of only body builders and powerlifters. Also the weights he carries aren't exactly hitting him back now are they?

I'll repeat once again, he has decades experience in Kyukoshin karate and has boxed this isn't someone who hasn't spared a day in his life and hasn't trained in some form of martial art.

rovert

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

Yet Lesnar started with only wrestling. Theres no reason why at 32 he couldn't start training in wrestling and jiu jitsu like Lesnar.

Beside's Lesnar ability to pick all types of things extraordinarily fast whether in MMA or anything else he has done.

cowzerp

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

Yet Lesnar started with only wrestling. Theres no reason why at 32 he couldn't start training in wrestling and jiu jitsu like Lesnar.

Lesnar pretty much still only has wrestling, so your looking at a world class wrestler with very basic boxing, he wins using wrestling

He has basic Boxing and Karate, will he win MMA matches with this?

its not like he's mike tyson that needs to learn some wresling.

Raze_them_all

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

I'll repeat once again, he has decades experience in Kyukoshin karate and has boxed this isn't someone who hasn't spared a day in his life and hasn't trained in some form of martial art.

Your naming striking sports. Not much use once your on your back.

RugbyFanatic

cowzerp wrote: »

Lesnar pretty much still only has wrestling, so your looking at a world class wrestler with very basic boxing, he wins using wrestling

He has basic Boxing and Karate, will he win MMA matches with this?

its not like he's mike tyson that needs to learn some wresling.

Hes a fourth degree black belt in karate and boxed professionally not exactly basic...

Hes a serious athlete more so than Lesnar and I could see him taking to MMA very well

rovert

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

Hes a serious athlete more so than Lesnar

:eek:

RugbyFanatic

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Your naming striking sports. Not much use once your on your back.

Same with wrestling....

RugbyFanatic

rovert wrote: »

:eek:

How can you say a man who has won world championships 5 times in his choosen sport, is a black belt in karate, has boxed at a professional level and made his nations rugby team is not a serious athlete?

cowzerp

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

and done amateur boxing for years

you said he done Amateur Boxing and never mentioned Pro boxing

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

boxed professionally not exactly basic...

Hes a serious athlete more so than Lesnar and I could see him taking to MMA very well

I done a search on pro boxing, and he did not box pro, also they would have said pro boxing on fighters only if he had.

As ridiculis as this whole topic is i like it as it gets us talking about what makes an MMA fighter, thanks.

Raze_them_all

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

Same with wrestling....

Wrestlers put others on their backs and for the most part have very good sprawls.

RugbyFanatic

cowzerp wrote: »

you said he done Amateur Boxing and never mentioned Pro boxing



I done a search on pro boxing, and he did not box pro, also they would have said pro boxing on fighters only if he had.

As ridiculis as this whole topic is i like it as it gets us talking about what makes an MMA fighter, thanks.

I read on a website it was professional boxing a few minutes ago but apparently it isn't still though he has trained.

rovert

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

How can you say a man who has won world championships 5 times in his choosen sport, is a black belt in karate, has boxed at a professional level and made his nations rugby team is not a serious athlete?

I didnt say he wasnt.

Jason Mc

I would be inetersted to see how he would get on for sure.

The thing is with a guy who has acheived so much in one sport he understands the desire to win and what must be given for that to happen.

With someone that strong you would have to aim to not allow him to get his hands on you

rovert

One thing to consider is that powerlifter and strongtype competition really do take a tonne of wear and tear on competitor's knees.

Jaysoose

I hear he eats swans for breakfast and can lift a tank...

RugbyFanatic

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

This guy is probably powerful enough to break bones simply by squeezing. Strong man comps test for steroids he was caught out in 2005 but passed every other time. In fairness hes trained karate since he was a kid and done amateur boxing for years so he does have some kind of MMA backround. If he gets some training in wrestling he would be a serious threat imagine his slams

They dont test for steroids in strongman events ( well technically they do but they are very loose and you have to be an idiot to get caught) and Marius is on them half the year,look online and you will find out his exact cycles and what he takes.

Mossy Monk

helimachoptor wrote: »

Eh isn't Mark Henry the worlds strongest man

That's who first came into my head when I read the thread title :eek:

muckwarrior wrote: »

Is that what he's doing to keep busy now he's finished mastermind? :pac:

:pac:

RugbyFanatic

Cassidy Uptight Fur wrote: »

They dont test for steroids in strongman events ( well technically they do but they are very loose and you have to be an idiot to get caught) and Marius is on them half the year,look online and you will find out his exact cycles and what he takes.

At the same time I think a lot of mma fighters also juice (Kongo,Barnett,Sherk,Nog and Coleman have all been caught in the past) if you know what your doing you can plan cycles well and mask. Hell Growth Hormone can't even be detected and combined with insulin it is more powerful than anabolic steroids

Fozzy

Cassidy Uptight Fur wrote: »

They dont test for steroids in strongman events ( well technically they do but they are very loose and you have to be an idiot to get caught) and Marius is on them half the year,look online and you will find out his exact cycles and what he takes.

I think that it's fair to say that their testing isn't anywhere near the most stringent. Although neither is MMA's :pac:

Would he make the heavyweight limit? I'm sure that he'd do better for himself in the superheavyweight division than the heavyweight division, if that is the sort of weight that he is, simply because there are, in general, worse athletes in the heavier division and whatever immobility he possesses wouldn't be as much of a hinderence

Other than that you can't really say much without seeing him

Fozzy

Fozzy wrote: »

I think that it's fair to say that their testing isn't anywhere near the most stringent. Although neither is MMA's :pac:

Would he make the heavyweight limit? I'm sure that he'd do better for himself in the superheavyweight division than the heavyweight division, if that is the sort of weight that he is, simply because there are, in general, worse athletes in the heavier division and whatever immobility he possesses wouldn't be as much of a hinderence

Other than that you can't really say much without seeing him

In fairness to rugbyfanatic and Marius,he is an absolutely fantastic athelite.Easy on par with Lesnar,I would say he is more athletic tbh.Watch his training online,he skips like a boxer and he is just an all around physical freak.

Mod edit- Unsubstantiated steroid allegations

For the record Lesnar comes into the ring at 120kg last time at 6'3,Marius walks around ripped to shreds at 130kg and 6'1.