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How many?

  • 31-07-2009 11:47pm
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    Something I just saw on TV got me thinking. If you are asked how many people you've had sex with, do you give only the ones you had intercourse with or all sexual partners? (I know some people think you shouldn't ever ask this question but that's a whole other thread!) Most people seem to go for the 'only intercourse' approach, which I think is silly. It's rather misleading to say you've been with 5 people when you've done oral/handjobs/whatever with three times that number. If I were asked, I'd just count them all. What do you think?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭pikachucheeks


    If someone asked me how many people I'd had sex with I'd take that to mean penetrative sex.
    I wouldn't take it to include oral sex, unless they specified.

    In any case, I wouldn't answer the question, unless they were a very close friend and I trusted them. I don't like to discuss numbers with people! It's a private thing, for me anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    mine the same number no matter if im just counting full sex or otherwise,so if someone asked me my number it would count everything ive done with someone bar kissing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    I hate to intrude on these threads but I think my answer is interesting.

    Given the relatively low number I have I tell different people different things.

    Good Friends: Real Number of Penetrative.
    Casual Friends: Real Number + Oral
    Randomers: A weird one, I will never say anything, but I have friends who blow my numbers out of proportion and I don't correct them when we are talking to random people.
    Girls: Another weird one, I will always tell at least the truth, but for some girls who would be put out by a low number I will add a few on.

    Yup, I have a list for everything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭pikachucheeks


    I hate to intrude on these threads but I think my answer is interesting.

    Given the relatively low number I have I tell different people different things.

    Good Friends: Real Number of Penetrative.
    Casual Friends: Real Number + Oral

    Randomers: A weird one, I will never say anything, but I have friends who blow my numbers out of proportion and I don't correct them when we are talking to random people.
    Girls: Another weird one, I will always tell at least the truth, but for some girls who would be put out by a low number I will add a few on.

    Yup, I have a list for everything.

    So, casual friends get to know more information about your sex life than close friends!? :eek:

    I don't have lists like that at all! I either trust you enough to confide in you about intimate details of my life, or I don't! Simple as.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    So, casual friends get to know more information about your sex life than close friends!? :eek:

    I don't have lists like that at all! I either trust you enough to confide in you about intimate details of my life, or I don't! Simple as.

    No, sorry for the confusion, for Casual friends I will simply say I had sex with Real number +Extra's, for good friends I would diffrentiate.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Peepee to feefee is all that counts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭jdivision


    as a guy Gotta be intercourse only TBH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    ...does this thread remind anyone of Clerks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    emmm, i think i'd confine it to penetrative only.
    or else i'd clarify exactly what tehy meant and answer accordingly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    If someone said "how many people have you had sex with?" I'd count up and then say "Precisely none of your business."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Xiney wrote: »
    ...does this thread remind anyone of Clerks?
    " My girlfriend sucked 37 dicks"
    "in a row?"


    Thats exactly what I thought when I saw this thread!

    The only person who i'll answer is the person I'm sleeping with, and I only count people I've had sex with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    The only person who i'll answer is the person I'm sleeping with

    i'd be more likely to tell a close female friend or my sister. i think sharing that info with a bf could lead to disaster if either one's numbers are way above what the other would think reasonable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    Xiney wrote: »
    ...does this thread remind anyone of Clerks?

    +1 lol

    yup, I'd count people I've had full sex with only. I'd answer if a partner asked, and my best mate, but it's no one else's business!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Never been a problem, Only ever had one and I am married to her! Thats one for sex,handjobs,blowjobs,bobitjobs :D.......

    Now there is honestly!


    and before someone asks no I am not curious! When you have what I have one is truly enough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Intercourse.

    The implication in "had sex" is obvious. "Had sex" does not equal "gave a hand job". Not in any way. If someone said to me that they'd "had sex" with someone and it later turned out that they got a hand job or some youngfella got his hand down her knickers and they counted that as "had sex" I would _laugh_my_ass_off_ at them.

    "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!" :D




  • IMO anything that can transmit an STD = sex (and when I ask a partner, that's the main reason I ask). Sure oral sex has sex in the name! I'd definitely count that. If I was asked I'd probably just say 'I had sex with X people, oral with X others' or something. Handjobs etc are more of a grey area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    I'm not going to give exact numbers here ... but I've had sex with only a very small number of men, all of whom I was fairly seriously involved with before it happened. That's the number I'd give.

    The number of men I've had oral sex/hand jobs with is quite a bit higher. I wouldn't count that as sex though, as sex is a pretty big deal to me and a few of them were very casual meaningless encounters.

    I wouldn't tell just anyone though. It's a very personal thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    .
    I wouldn't tell just anyone though. It's a very personal thing.

    Ahem........you just did ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    I hate to intrude on these threads but I think my answer is interesting.

    Given the relatively low number I have I tell different people different things.

    Good Friends: Real Number of Penetrative.
    Casual Friends: Real Number + Oral
    Randomers: A weird one, I will never say anything, but I have friends who blow my numbers out of proportion and I don't correct them when we are talking to random people.
    Girls: Another weird one, I will always tell at least the truth, but for some girls who would be put out by a low number I will add a few on.

    Yup, I have a list for everything.

    Why would you 'up' your number? I don't know any girl who would be significantly bothered or more impressed by a really high number than a really low one.

    Oh and as per the original question; if there's no intercourse it doesn't count in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    pebbles21 wrote: »
    Ahem........you just did ;)

    Not numbers though!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    G86 wrote: »
    Why would you 'up' your number? I don't know any girl who would be significantly bothered or more impressed by a really high number than a really low one.

    Oh and as per the original question; if there's no intercourse it doesn't count in my opinion.

    I know in the grand scheme of things it doesn't count, but I do know girls who would be put out by a low number, so I pad my bra a little so to speak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    I know in the grand scheme of things it doesn't count, but I do know girls who would be put out by a low number, so I pad my bra a little so to speak.

    Interesting. I haven't slept with a lot of people but I wouldn't be arsed hiding it. Of course I don't have to hide it any more so it's easy for me to say that. Anyone who would think that I'm crap in the sack because I haven't slept around (I'm dynamite in the sack :D) is probably riddled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    I know in the grand scheme of things it doesn't count, but I do know girls who would be put out by a low number, so I pad my bra a little so to speak.

    i'd be more likely to be put out by a very high number than a low one, tbh, although in general it doesnt bother me too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    [quote=[Deleted User];61409923]IMO anything that can transmit an STD = sex (and when I ask a partner, that's the main reason I ask). Sure oral sex has sex in the name! I'd definitely count that. If I was asked I'd probably just say 'I had sex with X people, oral with X others' or something. Handjobs etc are more of a grey area.[/QUOTE]

    Eh... manual sex? Mhmm... As I said, peepee to feefee is all that counts. :P
    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Maddison


    I dont feel it necessary to tell anyone your ''number''. I dont want to know how many partners someone has had, I make sure that safe sex is practiced therefor numbers are irrelevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭Fugly


    Well anything that could possibly transfer sti's I would consider the number. And this would be the number that I would tell my doc, but I've never told anyone else simply as I never have been asked. Is that weird? :rolleyes:

    If a guy asked I'd tell him, it's part of me and if he thinks less of me because of it then I know he won't be added to the list. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Fugly wrote: »
    Well anything that could possibly transfer sti's I would consider the number.

    This would include kissing then. Cold sores are a sexually transmitted disease.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Khannie wrote: »
    This would include kissing then. Cold sores are a sexually transmitted disease.

    :) Sarcastic Khannie... well i never...


    OT
    Tell 'em nuthin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    :) Sarcastic Khannie... well i never...

    GTFO! :p

    I just wouldn't really consider oral an STI risk. Not _really_ like. Not the same way that penetrative sex is for example.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Khannie wrote: »
    GTFO! :p

    I just wouldn't really consider oral an STI risk. Not _really_ like. Not the same way that penetrative sex is for example.

    Excuse the pun, but thats b****x tbh!!:p

    Herpes is no-ones friend!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Maddison


    Khannie wrote: »
    This would include kissing then. Cold sores are a sexually transmitted disease.

    Herpes Simplex Virus.....genital warts are caused by this virus. So essentially It is an STD.
    And just because someone has a high number of sexual partners doesnt mean that they have STI's/STD's. Some people are very careful protection wise & ensure that they have annual checks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Cold sores are herpes!

    My understanding, which may be wrong, but I don't think so, is that fanny / willy herpes and mouth herpes don't mix.

    Logging off for the night, so don't abuse me and expect a response. :*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Maddison


    Khannie wrote: »
    GTFO! :p

    I just wouldn't really consider oral an STI risk. Not _really_ like. Not the same way that penetrative sex is for example.


    For a change Khannie I am going to disagree with you on this.....oral sex is also risky If someone has ghonnorea(sp?)....do you really wanna go there.....


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Maddison wrote: »
    Herpes Simplex Virus.....genital warts are caused by this virus. So essentially It is an STD.

    Herpes simplex virus = herpes, both oral and genital.
    Human papillomavirus = genital warts and may lead to cervical cancer.

    Khannie - I'm fairly sure oral herpes can cause genital herpes, and vice versa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    Khannie wrote: »
    Cold sores are herpes!

    My understanding, which may be wrong, but I don't think so, is that fanny / willy herpes and mouth herpes don't mix.

    Logging off for the night, so don't abuse me and expect a response. :*

    generally speaking, most herpes occuring in/on the mouth are herpes simplex type 1 and those occuring down below are type 2.

    but you can get either type in either place.


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  • Maddison wrote: »
    Herpes Simplex Virus.....genital warts are caused by this virus. So essentially It is an STD.
    And just because someone has a high number of sexual partners doesnt mean that they have STI's/STD's. Some people are very careful protection wise & ensure that they have annual checks.

    Genital warts are caused by HPV, not HSV (Herpes Simplex I or II) - they don't test for either during a routine STI check and condoms don't protect much against them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭Fugly


    Khannie wrote: »
    This would include kissing then. Cold sores are a sexually transmitted disease.

    kissing would included in my kissing number clearly:rolleyes:! As sam34 points out warts are mix'n'match so to speak, you can get them from oral or kissing.

    As the only person I've told my number to is my doc. the number is more accurate if you include all people you've had any sexual contact with. And if asked by a partner that would be the number I'd give. However although your chances are clearly increased from multiple partners, you just need to sleep with one person to catch anything.

    Also a lil off topic but this may be odd but I keep a actual notebook containing my sexual history if you will, am I alone in this? :o

    And I have when engaging in a manogamous relationship, insisted on the partners being screened even though protection was always used. {I have a regular check-up/screening with my gyno}

    Yes, reading it back i see how odd and sad I am. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    Fugly wrote: »
    kissing would included in my kissing number clearly:rolleyes:! As sam34 points out warts are mix'n'match so to speak, you can get them from oral or kissing.

    i was talking about herpes simplex, which is the cause of cold sores and genital herpes.

    warts are caused by the human papiloma virus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭Fugly


    sam34 wrote: »
    i was talking about herpes simplex, which is the cause of cold sores and genital herpes.

    warts are caused by the human papiloma virus

    Sorry so was I, Brain not connected to hand typing tonight. :rolleyes:WHOOPS!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Maddison wrote: »
    For a change Khannie I am going to disagree with you on this.....oral sex is also risky If someone has ghonnorea(sp?)....do you really wanna go there.....

    Tell me more. I like learning things, even if they're gross.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Jules


    I once told someone my number and was informed i was a slut, girls should not sleep with that many guys, btw its not that high, more than princess di less then madonna! Then i was informed his number was 3 times more than mine and got the, "well i am a guy" response!

    As regarding defination of number, im finding it difficult to word this properly, i would consider it both intercourse and oral as i would think that having a guys penis in your mouth is a little bit more intimate than straight sex.... think it weird but i wouldnt go the oral route and then say no sorry im not having sex with you i dont know you well enough!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Khannie wrote: »
    Cold sores are herpes!

    My understanding, which may be wrong, but I don't think so, is that fanny / willy herpes and mouth herpes don't mix.

    Logging off for the night, so don't abuse me and expect a response. :*

    literally LMAO


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Khannie wrote: »
    Tell me more. I like learning things, even if they're gross.

    Gonorrhoea and chlamydia can infect your throat in the same way that they can infect your genitals, as a result of oral sex.

    Incidentally, you can get chlamydia in your eyes too. If you get the bacteria on your hands, and rub your eyes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭SeekUp


    I never really understood how various sexual acts "counted" as intercourse. I mean, yes, having someone's penis is your mouth can be more intimate than intercourse. But even kissing someone is more intimate than intercourse for many people. For me, growing up, handjobs and blow jobs and *ahem* cunnilingus were sexual acts, and yes, I know that they're forms of oral sex. But in my opinion, you don't make it to third base and call it a home run.

    Plain and simple - no gray areas.

    If someone wants to know how many people you've had sex with, they should ask you that. If someone wants to know how many people you've been intimate with, they should ask you that.

    They might be the same number, they might be different, but it's not the same question, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Jules wrote: »
    As regarding defination of number, im finding it difficult to word this properly, i would consider it both intercourse and oral as i would think that having a guys penis in your mouth is a little bit more intimate than straight sex.... think it weird but i wouldnt go the oral route and then say no sorry im not having sex with you i dont know you well enough!


    OMG, yes, thank you Jules.


    I am far from well-behaved when it comes to sexual shenanigans, but I have never in my life performed intimate sexual acts with anyone and not had intercourse. Perhaps that makes me sound like a total whore, but I just don't get this imaginary 'line' that other people seem to have - "I'll put your genitals in my mouth, but not in my own genitals". WTF? It makes no sense to me, at all.

    And before anyone leaps on me, it's not about STIs, because as we have seen, you can get them from oral. Anyone worried about getting an STI should not be going around giving casual oral sex to people. That's just stupid.


    If I'm interested enough in someone to do ANYTHING bar kissing with them, it'll be the whole shebang. And why not? Does it matter? No. Does it reflect badly on me as a person? I don't think so. I just don't see how people differentiate in, I dunno, "seriousness", between oral and penetrative sex. If you're gonna be intimate with someone, be intimate with them.


    So, to answer the actual question - I just count intercourse partners, because for me oral-only does not exist. If I was with someone, I was with them. And I'll tell anyone asking my real number (as long as they're just being nosey and not asking for the wrong reasons).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    shellyboo wrote: »
    So, to answer the actual question - I just count intercourse partners, because for me oral-only does not exist. If I was with someone, I was with them. And I'll tell anyone asking my real number (as long as they're just being nosey and not asking for the wrong reasons).

    go on then, how many? Nah, I'm only kiddin!! :)
    I know what you mean about differentiating, like if ya've gone as far as oral with someone, why not have sex. In a lot of ways oral is more intimate.
    I guess it depends on a person perception of what is intimate, and what is maybe reserved for an OH only, what's ok for a one night stand, what's ok for casual dating. It'll differ from person to person.
    There are other reasons why a person might go the oral/grope route only and not have sex with a person but I'd think they'd apply in pretty limited circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    dearg lady wrote: »
    go on then, how many? Nah, I'm only kiddin!! :)
    I know what you mean about differentiating, like if ya've gone as far as oral with someone, why not have sex. In a lot of ways oral is more intimate.
    I guess it depends on a person perception of what is intimate, and what is maybe reserved for an OH only, what's ok for a one night stand, what's ok for casual dating. It'll differ from person to person.
    There are other reasons why a person might go the oral/grope route only and not have sex with a person but I'd think they'd apply in pretty limited circumstances.


    Hmm, I can sort of get on board with the idea of some things only being reserved for a proper partner, but for me in that case it would actually be oral. I dunno... I just find it waaaaaaay more intimate than penetrative sex. That's to do with my own circumstances though, I used to have trouble performing oral and it took me ages to get over that, so it's a big deal to me to trust someone enough to do it with them.

    Thinking about it more, I guess it's really just my own issues that have me thinking that way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    shellyboo wrote: »
    Hmm, I can sort of get on board with the idea of some things only being reserved for a proper partner, but for me in that case it would actually be oral. I dunno... I just find it waaaaaaay more intimate than penetrative sex. That's to do with my own circumstances though, I used to have trouble performing oral and it took me ages to get over that, so it's a big deal to me to trust someone enough to do it with them.

    Thinking about it more, I guess it's really just my own issues that have me thinking that way.

    Personally I would consider oral more intimate too, I think a lot of people would. I mean, you're gettin very very close and personal with someone! That said, my number differs but for a whole other reason I'm not about to go into here :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭Fugly


    I understand why people find oral more intimate, personally I don't. But if I'm having any "sexual relations" with someone I want to be fairly comfortable with them to begin with.

    I wouldn't be interested in their intercourse number, to be honest, if I wanted to know I'd want to know their sexual relations number. maybe because my numbers differ. I've had sexual relations with more people than intercourse.

    Not intentionally, it just ended up that way. I personally prefer oral, I love intercourse..it's just down the line on my to do list when I'm with someone. Saying that it's not that I put sex off, I never intend to put it on the long finger it, it just happens. :confused:.. It's difficult to explain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Fugly wrote: »
    Not intentionally, it just ended up that way. I personally prefer oral, I love intercourse..it's just down the line on my to do list when I'm with someone. Saying that it's not that I put sex off, I never intend to put it on the long finger it, it just happens. :confused:.. It's difficult to explain.


    Can I just ask a possibly weird question? Not being antagonistic. What would happen that would mean you'd have sexual relations with a guy but not go on to have sexual intercourse with him? Like, are these guys you'd have been seeing and then stop seeing or just casual partners?


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