Leaving Cert = Easiest thing ever?

JW91

I'm not trying to be arrogant but did anyone find the leaving cert to be really easy?

I did virtually no study, and I had a fairly relaxed attitude about homework. I'd say I did homework about half of the time and I did basicly no study. But desite this I still flew through the exams. They were simple. I'm expecting somewhere in the region of 550 points.

Why do people get so stressed out about it? There's no need to get worked up. about it It's a very straight forward set of exams.

TheInquisitor

I hope you fail!

But on a serious note i did 1 weeks study in total for the leaving and got 455 points.

Gavin "shels"

Good man your book smart, you can read a book and know it off then. Some people can't, actually I'd say most people can't.

Get over yourself, people have different levels of what they know. And for what my opinion is you're either book smart or intelligent/street wise and well I know I'm the latter, which I'm God damed pleased to be. Most people I've come across dont't have both and once you go into the real world well book smartness probably will be of little use.

*Hopes for his 300 points and C3 in Maths come 12 August*:cool:

KnifeWRENCH

Leaving Cert = easiest thing EVER? Really?
Of all the things that have ever existed, the Leaving Cert is the easiest?
I would say no.

JW91 wrote: »

I'm not trying to be arrogant but did anyone find the leaving cert to be really easy?

Yes, a few people probably did.
Most people, presumably, would have found it some bit challenging.

I did virtually no study, and I had a fairly relaxed attitude about homework. I'd say I did homework about half of the time and I did basicly no study. But desite this I still flew through the exams. They were simple. I'm expecting somewhere in the region of 550 points.

Why are you telling us all this?
Are you looking for congratulations?
Did you just come here to boast or do you actually want a serious discussion about the level of difficulty involved in the Leaving Cert?

Why do people get so stressed out about it? There's no need to get worked up. about it

People get worked up about it because the points you get in your Leaving Cert determine whether you can or cannot do your first choice college course.
You say you think you got around 550: would you have such a nonchalant attitude if you were aiming for 580+?

Again, I must wonder why you're writing this. Do you expect people who are extremely anxious waiting for their results to all of a sudden go "Oh, silly me. I shouldn't be nervous at all."? Of course the Leaving Cert is NOT the be all and end all (I cannot stress that enough) but it's still a fairly important set of exams. It's only natural that students will feel a little nervous about getting their results.

It's a very straight forward set of exams.

Anyone who did last year's Accounting exam may disagree with you there.

robbie_998

slightly agree with the knob mod

but to answer your original query

i did the L.C this year and i did no study what so ever and found the exams to be a can of piss ! very easy no worries and people egsaturate too much :rolleyes:

CHD

OP will probably get 200 points

spurious

People have different strengths -some are book smart, some are street smart, some are people smart.

Even more know how many points you get in your Leaving doesn't actually say anything important about you.

Boasting about expected points on the internet for no other reason than to say how easy you found it says quite a lot about someone.

KnifeWRENCH

robbie_998 wrote: »

slightly agree with the knob mod

Infracted.

blogga

JW91 wrote: »

I'm not trying to be arrogant but did anyone find the leaving cert to be really easy?

I did virtually no study, and I had a fairly relaxed attitude about homework. I'd say I did homework about half of the time and I did basicly no study. But desite this I still flew through the exams. They were simple. I'm expecting somewhere in the region of 550 points.

Why do people get so stressed out about it? There's no need to get worked up. about it It's a very straight forward set of exams.

Yeah, the Leaving Cert has been dumbed down a lot. 17 times easier to get good grades now I hear. Really dumbed down to make things, well, simple.

discostick12

Well I wouldn't say it was that easy!
I did mine this year, and I was stressed!! every time I tried to study I kept worry I wasn't studying the proper stuff, so in all i say I got a week of study done!
But **** it what can ya do!! Just hope I get the grade I need to get into the college/course I want

randylonghorn

robbie_998 wrote: »

i did the L.C this year and i did no study what so ever and found the exams to be a can of piss ! very easy no worries and people egsaturate too much :rolleyes:

Including English?

bernardo mac

At a risk of being ridiculed,I'd say subjects are more interesting now,a wider range of options is available within courses and marking is a bit more generous.Certainly,examiners are not as strict on spelling,grammar etc, unless what is written is irrelevant and/or incomprehensible.But the points system is just as demanding and stressful

star-pants

I did my Leaving Cert back in 2001 - and it wasn't easy.
I'm not one of these who can just know stuff off, I get lots of 'blanks' in exam situations, I had them in college too and it freaks you out. My older sister and my younger brother are both the type that are very academic but I'm not. Doesn't mean i'm not smart, just means I have to work harder to retain the info.
Was it the easiest thing ever? Hell no.
Was it the hardest thing ever? No - my Thesis & final year in college was a damn sight more stressful.

But everything is relative - depends on how easy you can study, how easy you find things, what's going on in your life, what you want out of the leaving cert, what you want to do in college etc. Also some people are put under a lot of pressure from family / friends (possibly friends like you who find it so *easy* and broadcast this).

I'm not afraid to admit I got 325 points in my Leaving Cert, I got an E in higher level Maths. And I cried when I saw it because I thought that was it.
BUT I went to college and got an honours degree in Earth Science.
Should I be proud? yes. Should I boast about it? no.

The leaving cert means different things to different people and it can be easier for some than others but I don't begrudge those that it's easier for. Nor would I gloat over someone who found it harder than me.
I just don't do well in exams. Simple as.

And I don't think it's fair to say 'oh its so easy wtf are people getting so worked up for, I'm fab and it was easy and I'm getting a million points'.

dermo1990

I would hardly call the leaving easy. I did mine this year, and needless to say the time you put in to prepare is usually enormous. It might be easier for some people rather than others, mainly due to the subjects they choose which might be more straightforward than others, say business subjects vs the sciences.

Enright

JW91 wrote: »

I'm not trying to be arrogant but did anyone find the leaving cert to be really easy?

I did virtually no study, and I had a fairly relaxed attitude about homework. I'd say I did homework about half of the time and I did basicly no study. But desite this I still flew through the exams. They were simple. I'm expecting somewhere in the region of 550 points.

Why do people get so stressed out about it? There's no need to get worked up. about it It's a very straight forward set of exams.

Leave this discussion until the results come out! We will see then how you get on. I hope you get the points you need but be careful making general statements that the LC is very easy! It might have been for you, but then again you are not everyone. Having completed the LC some years ago, a degree and several masters i can honestly say that the worst exams i ever did were the LC. Looking back, it was a combination of poor study techniques, lack of study and pressure from lots of sources.

For lots of people who struggled with this years LC and for those who will sit it next year, telling people its easy and that by only doing half your homework and zero study that one will get 550 points, will only create further pressure for them.

Please post a copy of your results on the 12th of next month.

KnifeWRENCH

dermo1990 wrote: »

It might be easier for some people rather than others, mainly due to the subjects they choose which might be more straightforward than others, say business subjects vs the sciences.

I'm not sure there are any "easiest" or "most straightforward" LC subjects. Someone who has a natural aptitude for science and maths but hates learning off lots of definitions and business terms would probably find the science subjects easier.

bernardo mac wrote: »

At a risk of being ridiculed,I'd say subjects are more interesting now,a wider range of options is available within courses and marking is a bit more generous.

Some subjects have definitely become more interesting; I would have hated to have done Biology before they updated the course. Learning about the structure of moss versus learning about applications of genetic engineering; no contest there!

Certainly,examiners are not as strict on spelling,grammar etc, unless what is written is irrelevant and/or incomprehensible.

I think that's fair, excluding language subjects (and possibly History, since essay writing is essential there). Others would argue that having perfect spelling and grammar is essential and so those should be considered in other exams.

But the points system is just as demanding and stressful

The problem is, what other system would be a better alternative?

andyman

I don't believe for one second that somebody can do "virtually no study" and expect 550 points. I hear it all the time and all the time it's a pack of lies.

rainbowtrout

JW91 wrote: »

I'm not trying to be arrogant but did anyone find the leaving cert to be really easy?

But you are being arrogant...

JW91 wrote: »

I did virtually no study, and I had a fairly relaxed attitude about homework. I'd say I did homework about half of the time and I did basicly no study. But desite this I still flew through the exams. They were simple. I'm expecting somewhere in the region of 550 points.

Why do people get so stressed out about it? There's no need to get worked up. about it It's a very straight forward set of exams.

Bully for you. So you can study with ease. Or you're under the impression that you can. If you can, you're one of the lucky ones. Maybe you don't realise that some people find school really, really difficult and everything they do, every subject they study is a struggle. Lots of these students won't do any further study after the LC, and getting a LC is a huge achievement.

You might get a shock when you get the results. I had a student last year who told me he was going to sail into medicine and that he knew more chemistry than I could ever possibly know. (Hmmmmm, chemistry degree v LC knowledge).. needless to say he didn't get an A in chemistry and he didn't get anywhere near the amount of points needed for medicine... more like 470. While that's a great LC, he was telling everyone he was going to get at least 570. That and if you go to college, no one will care what you got in the LC. You will be a very small fish in a very big pool.

christina_x

the easier the exams the harder theyr marked because there will be more A's which cant happen so..they redo the marking scheme making it harder!

phasers

So I'm the only one that thinks the OP is trolling? fair enough...


Easiest thing ever? No. Regardless of homework and study, you still did two years of preparation. pouring a glass of water is way easier than that.

Straight forward eh? I take it you didn't do History this year then :pac:

JSK 252

phasers wrote: »

So I'm the only one that thinks the OP is trolling? fair enough...


Easiest thing ever? No. Regardless of homework and study, you still did two years of preparation. pouring a glass of water is way easier than that.

Straight forward eh? I take it you didn't do History this year then :pac:

HAHAHA I heard from my friends that history was a huge shock to the system!

Or Stair Na Gaeilge for that word! They really fooled a lot of people with the exact same question as 2008! but I was prepared though!:p

JSK 252

JW91 wrote: »

I'm not trying to be arrogant but did anyone find the leaving cert to be really easy?

I did virtually no study, and I had a fairly relaxed attitude about homework. I'd say I did homework about half of the time and I did basicly no study. But desite this I still flew through the exams. They were simple. I'm expecting somewhere in the region of 550 points.

Why do people get so stressed out about it? There's no need to get worked up. about it It's a very straight forward set of exams.

1.No I didnt find the leaving certificate easy but on the other hand I had a lot of work done in order to put myself in the position to do the best I possibly could. Im quietly confident of 560 but Im not going to boast about it.

2.Poeple who say they dont study are usually the ones that do.

3.I did have the ****ters this year about the exam because quite frankly, there is a lot at stake and Im aiming for high points, so thats why people get stressed out about it. At least my teachers and career guidance councellor gave us the support and help we needed.

Jay P

It says a whole lot about the OP not to have replied yet. Methinks he was just trying to show off his "lack" of arrogance.

Personally I'd consider myself to be fairly intelligent, but I still found that stupid leaving cert to be very difficult. Revising two years of work for seven subjects is very difficult, no matter what way you look at it.

I know I'm very lucky in that:
1. I didn't panic.
2. The stuff I studied generally was what came up.

While I did find it easier than expected, that's only because I got lucky. It could easily have happened that things could have come up that I didn't study, especially Geography. So OP, to be quite frank, it isn't very straight forward. Also, that was a very arrogant post, and also fairly insensitive.

randylonghorn

Knife-WREEENCH wrote: »

I think that's fair, excluding language subjects (and possibly History, since essay writing is essential there). Others would argue that having perfect spelling and grammar is essential and so those should be considered in other exams.

DEFINITELY history ... well, I wouldn't look for perfect spelling and grammar, but the ability to present a cogent argument in reasonable English is certainly important.

I wouldn't actually argue for being obsessively pedantic about spelling and grammar outside of language papers (obviously including English) either, but I think we've gone too far in the other direction recently.

The result is way too many students at third level with extremely poor English language skills. This is something that should have been rectified before this point ... it's fairly ridiculous having to deal with remedial English issues at this stage. *

Some might say that English skills are irrelevant to a scientist or engineering student ... but when they're so bad that the student struggles to demonstrate what they actually know in their chosen subject, there is a definite problem.

And in a few years such students will (hopefully!) enter the employment market, and no-one will be especially impressed with a graduate who can't spell for nutz or rite decent English grammer! :rolleyes:

* Please note that I am exempting from this comment those with dyslexia or a specific learning difficulty affecting language.

snazzy

To the OP, you really must be self-assured to feel confident of achieving 550 points. Well done if you can but in regards to the manner in which you perceive you have achieved this high point score, it's not a realistic way to lead your life and certainly will be tested out in the college course of your choice. Beware.

phasers wrote: »

Straight forward eh? I take it you didn't do History this year then :pac:

Oh thank god! I thought I was the only one.
Single-handedly the worst exam I have ever sat.
I can't believe how badly it went!
And the course is extremely challenging.

andyman

I've been saying it for the last 3 years - English needs to be split up into English Language and English Literature, making English Language compulsory.

phasers

andyman wrote: »

I've been saying it for the last 3 years - English needs to be split up into English Language and English Literature, making English Language compulsory.

Would that be a proper subject that we could get points on? Awesome.


"John walked to the shop."

Find the verb in this sentence (50 marks)

:pac::pac:

Jam-Fly

JW91 wrote: »

I'm not trying to be arrogant but did anyone find the leaving cert to be really easy?

I did virtually no study, and I had a fairly relaxed attitude about homework. I'd say I did homework about half of the time and I did basicly no study. But desite this I still flew through the exams. They were simple. I'm expecting somewhere in the region of 550 points.

Why do people get so stressed out about it? There's no need to get worked up. about it It's a very straight forward set of exams.

If the leaving cert is really easy why aren't you getting 600 points?

TanG411

i suppose it just depends on person to person.

Personally, I found it easy because I'd class myself as book smart. Also I'm not going for a lot of points which reduces the pressure.

But for others it can be difficult. I fully respect those who worked their arses off even if it's to get 400 points. They are the true workers. While lazy people (like me) just don't do much work and still get their points.

To be honest, I think i'll barely scrape the amount of points I get. I need about 335 and expect to get about 350

xOxSinéadxOx

thought it was easy enough. I did honours everything and I only ever studied the night before each exam, rarely did homework, I'm expecting to get 370-410 points. I'm just a really lazy person, I admire people who are able to put their head down and work at stuff and do well.

K4t

The LC is like most other things in life from sport to jobs and so on, you get out of it what you put into it. It's 90% hard work and 10% intelligence/natural ability etc.

And I don't believe for a second that the OP or anybody else is going to get 550 points by doing barely any homework or study. That kind of talk is just a way of trying to impress people.

Delta Kilo

Im gonna admit that it definitely wasn't as hard as I was expecting tbh but I certainly wouldn't come on a public forum bragging about it and predicting my points!

loveissucide

Well,First Arts is miles easier.
But the actual exams are fairly doable on the day.

Jammyc

andyman wrote: »

I've been saying it for the last 3 years - English needs to be split up into English Language and English Literature, making English Language compulsory.

This would be interesting. I can see half of my year failing if there was to be an oral exam. I know I dont have great grammar myself but, jaysus. The supposed mother tongue of some of my classmates doesnt seem to be the most developed.

bythewoods

Shut up OP.
I know your type. Shut up.

S'like this.
I got fairly high points last year and many people assumed I spent every waking moment with my nose in a book. NotSoMuch.
I know a few very dedicated students who were completely focused on their studies and I did nothing in comparison to them. I did study, especially in the last short while before the exams, but my study:dossing ratio tipped in favour of dossing very much so.
Feels like I did feck all. I mean, I DID feck all in my mind. But compared to true "SHUR WHY WOULD I BE SHTUDYIN WHEN I CAN BE OFFMY FAYSH BAI?" people, I studied.

OP, you did study. Yes, you did.
You just didn't study as much as other people and your natural intelligence/ sponge-like ability to remember crap from class or w/e is tiding you over nicely.

So stop being such an arrogant cnut and realise that you, in fact, donthaveanotionwhatyoureonaboutkthxbai.

(I'm in a really bitchy mood. Does it show?)

bythewoods

bythewoods wrote: »

(I'm in a really bitchy mood. Does it show?)

Not at all.:) (:pac:)

jumpguy

Must say I agree abit with bythewoods (but I wouldn't be so mean about it :P). I've heard people say this alot and I just immediately think "bullshítter..." You HAVE to have worked abit, you didn't just sit on your hole and do it, and don't make it out that way. TBH I thought the OP was a troll when I first read.

randylonghorn

bythewoods wrote: »

So stop being such an arrogant cnut and realise that you, in fact, donthaveanotionwhatyoureonaboutkthxbai.

(I'm in a really bitchy mood. Does it show?)

Prof. Moody, we do not use transfiguration as a punishment call people arrogant cnuts around here!

Thank the lateness of the hour and my very good mood for sparing you an infraction!

star-pants

randylonghorn wrote: »

Thank the lateness of the hour and my very good mood for sparing you an infraction!

I'm afraid it's Monday morning for me
Bythewoods infracted

That_Guy

JW91 wrote: »

I'm not trying to be arrogant but did anyone find the leaving cert to be really easy?

I wouldn't say it's easy no but if you do the work and study hard then yes it's easier and you make life easy for yourself.

I did virtually no study, and I had a fairly relaxed attitude about homework. I'd say I did homework about half of the time and I did basicly no study.

IMO anybody who says something like this has done plenty of study and plenty of revision and homework. If you didn't then that was your choice but surely you had to have done something.

But desite this I still flew through the exams. They were simple. I'm expecting somewhere in the region of 550 points.

Do you mean you finished them early or you found them to be a breeze? If you get what you want then fair play and if you don't you know what the problem is. You can say you found the exams easy and if you don't get the points you wanted you've only yourself to blame.

Why do people get so stressed out about it? There's no need to get worked up. about it It's a very straight forward set of exams.

People get stressed out about the LC every year because teachers and some peers make it out to be the most important thing ever. I'm not saying it's not important but there are bigger things in life than it. People just have to try and get on top of things from the word go and it'll make life so much easier. I would implore anyone reading this who is going into 5th year to start the work now instead of cramming it all in during the last few months of 6th year.

I didn't get stressed over the exams but people do. Some tend to over react I will admit but just let them at it. It's your LC and nobody elses at the end of the day. It's an individual thing which only you can work towards.

OP if you get your points when the results are released then fair play to you but if you do horrendously bad then you know what you didn't do.

Again anyone going into 5th year or indeed 6th year reading this, don't fall into the trap of not studying. Anyone who says they aren't studying etc is most likely lying so don't go along with friends if they say that. Do your own work and don't let anybody distract you from it.

Best of luck to those going into 6th year and the leaving cert cycle and best of luck to those waiting for impending results.

JW91

Well I'm the OP and I can see this didn't go down well at all. In answer to the person who asked why I didn't reply, the simple answer is, I completely forgot about it. I was devastated after the hurling yesterday in Thurles and this thread just slipped my mind.

Obviously I don't mean it's the easiest thing ever. Just i found it easy relative to all the hype that surrounds it.

A lot of people think I studied but I didn't. I just retain information well I suppose. I suppose I'm lucky to have that ability.

The key with the leaving cert (as far as I can see anyway) is staying calm. For example many of you went crazy after the incident with the English paper but in reality that wasn't a big deal at all. It didn't make any difference really.

Michaelrsh

JW91 wrote: »

A lot of people think I studied but I didn't. I just retain information well I suppose. I suppose I'm lucky to have that ability.

:mad:Yeah you might be lucky alright but everyone hates you:mad:

You only posted this thread to antagonize people who worked there ass off. SHAME ON YOU!!

I know alot of people who worked there behind off and said to me then they only expect between 350 and 450.

That_Guy

JW91 wrote: »

Well I'm the OP and I can see this didn't go down well at all. In answer to the person who asked why I didn't reply, the simple answer is, I completely forgot about it. I was devastated after the hurling yesterday in Thurles and this thread just slipped my mind.

Obviously I don't mean it's the easiest thing ever. Just i found it easy relative to all the hype that surrounds it.

A lot of people think I studied but I didn't. I just retain information well I suppose. I suppose I'm lucky to have that ability.

The key with the leaving cert (as far as I can see anyway) is staying calm. For example many of you went crazy after the incident with the English paper but in reality that wasn't a big deal at all. It didn't make any difference really.

It's a stressful time for all those sitting the exams. I think you did study tbh and there's no way you can get 550 without doing so unless you've a photographic memory.

The LC should be balanced out in the ratio of 60:40. The 60 is for work and study while the 40 is for personal relaxation so you don't get too bogged down and become stressed out.

It can't be all study and no play but it can't be all play and no study. Sure all your friends must have been inside studying themselves most of the time. Even if you didn't work hard at studying then you should have at least revised a little to back yourself up a bit.

Jammyc

Whereas I think the leaving cert was a little overhyped,
without the hype, I would have done miserably because it pushed me to work.

Its not all its cracked up to be, but dont let anyone tell you that.

phic

JW91 wrote: »

A lot of people think I studied but I didn't. I just retain information well I suppose. I suppose I'm lucky to have that ability.

I also have the ability to retain information easily, however in order to do this I have to read/be told the information at least once. When we expose ourselves to this information its called studying, so you did in fact study, even if not very much compared to others.

Nightsky

Op I hope your spelling and punctuation were better in your exams.
Robbie 998 though took the biscuit with egsaturate,hilarious!!!!!!!:D

cocoa

lol, whether or not the OP is 'book smart' (personally I'd prefer 'LC smart' as 'book smart' is a tad smarter IMO =P), the fact s/he started this thread shows s/he has a lot to learn yet...

@ the people saying you can't do well without studying / all those people are liers:
It is not impossible. I did extremely well in the leaving in 07 while averaging twenty mins or less study on top of homework per day. That is totally true, but it's far from the whole story! I was extremely lucky, I chose subjects I was well suited to (mathematical mind + 4 science subjects = win) and I had excellent teachers, which insured my homework was relevant and a good measure of my ability. I was also always awake and focused in class, so I didn't need to go over things I had learned already at home. So no, I didn't do much study for the leaving, but I did plenty of work and I wouldn't deny that or act as if I have some kind of ability to absorb information without any effort...

@ those going into fifth or sixth year:
The key is knowing yourself. I'd always advise strongly against counting or comparing hours of study. time spent does not equal work done or goals achieved. Concentrate on what you know, and especially on what you don't. If you feel you know all you need to know for the stage you're at, try some appropriate questions and you'll soon know for sure. Do not settle for 'having an idea' of the answer, be sure. The next time, you'll know if you you really do know all you need to, and you'll be able to trust your own judgement.

JSK 252

bythewoods wrote: »

kthxbai.

fh041205

Hate to break it to you Cocoa but averaging 20 mins study per day on top of homework IS an awful lot of studying in my book.

Jammyc

fh041205 wrote: »

Hate to break it to you Cocoa but averaging 20 mins study per day on top of homework IS an awful lot of studying in my book.

Really?
Id hardly manage to get anything done in twenty minutes. I think thats hardly any time tbh.

fh041205

Jammyc wrote: »

Really?
Id hardly manage to get anything done in twenty minutes. I think thats hardly any time tbh.

Average 20 mins. ON TOP of homework. Thats 1hr40 a week of extra study. Thats a lot over 2 years.