100 year 1916 anniversary: commemorations?

Yixian

What are we expecting to commemorate 100 years since the Rising? Both in terms of festivals, celebrations and memorials and monuments, as well as political events north and south of the border?

In terms of monuments and memorials I like to envisage a 21st Century Irish response to the statue of liberty. Whereas that monument welcomed Irish immigrants from their impoverished homelands to the new world, 100 years on from the Rising couldn't we build a statue of Éire in Dublin bay, welcoming back the sons of Ireland from around the world?

Politically I think it's safe to assume there'll be a resurgence of sectarian violence of some kind in the North. Sinn Fein are planning some kind of modern campaign for a united Ireland but as optimistic as I'd like to be for that, who knows how effective it will be...

UNLESS, when the Scots vote for independence next year they vote Yes and Scotland breaks the Union. Were that to happen, it should certainly shake things up in NI.

Dublin Metro will be done, hopefully, and all the docklands developments should have been completed. I guess we can expect the biggest St Patrick's ever and another military parade in Dublin too.

Not to mention a hell of a lot of cynicism in the media over what has been achieved since independence.

Adamcp898

Such a first post, 93 years in the making

BlackandGold

Think this topic is WAAAAY too intelligent for the folk in AH.

Also, I have nothing to say about 100 year 1916 commemorations except, it's now the year 2009??? *scratches head* Will think about 2016 in 5 years time!!!

galwayrush

Anarchy if the country keeps going down the tubes the way it is.
I don't see what there's to celebrate, this country s severely ****ed.:(

brummytom

It should be celebrated shouldn't it? It drove us bastards out...

Some parade/commemoration at the GPO or something?

CyberWaste

Close this thread and reopen it in 6 years please mods.



:pac:

Sir Molle

I don't celebrate terrorism.

Myrddin

galwayrush wrote: »

Anarchy if the country keeps going down the tubes the way it is.
I don't see what there's to celebrate, this country s severely ****ed.:(

Due to the recently introduced anarchy tax, I cant see this happening.

The lads from 1916 would be rolling in their graves if they seen what we let happen to everything they fought for.

My name is URL

Whats been achieved?

Violence is put off while we plan ahead for ceremonial bull**** to commemorate the violence of the past?

On the anniversery we should wipe ourselves clean of any sectarianism and build a monument to represent that

Sir Molle

EnterNow wrote: »

Due to the recently introduced anarchy tax, I cant see this happening.

The lads from 1916 would be rolling in their graves if they seen what we let happen to everything they fought for.

We'll get to hear it from then when this country goes to hell. They're already there.

Adamcp898

tbh in all seriousness, another rising wouldn't be bad

brummytom

EnterNow wrote: »

The lads from 1916 would be rolling in their graves if they seen what we let happen to everything they fought for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C14U7JYGRgA

Sir Molle

Michael Collins is literally sitting in hell with hitler and osama bin laden(maybe).

Hazys

1916 + 100 != 2009

Myrddin

Sir Molle wrote: »

Michael Collins is literally sitting in hell with hitler and osama bin laden(maybe).

Ah shut up

coldwood92

Sir Molle wrote: »

I don't celebrate terrorism.

1916 wasn't terroism

soundsham

someone start a countdown to easter sunday 2016..........oh what fun:(

galwayrush

Sir Molle wrote: »

Michael Collins is literally sitting in hell with hitler and osama bin laden(maybe).

If Collins wasn't killed before his time, i think we may have had a more progressive country many years ago.

ChocolateSauce

I'd rather not celebrate terrorism.

Aldebaran

Sir Molle wrote: »

Michael Collins is literally sitting in hell with hitler and osama bin laden(maybe).

Pfft, I highly doubt that Michael Collins would be allowed to hang out with the cool kids in hell.

brummytom

Sir Molle wrote: »

Michael Collins is literally sitting in hell with hitler and osama bin laden(maybe).

The climate was very different at the time, to be fair. The famine was, for some, still a very vivid memory; and still a very stirring/driving force. To support the English after that would be to disrespect the millions of lives lost in vain.

While I don't in any way condone terrorism, I can't help but understand the motivation behind such actions. People don't become terrorists out of boredom - it's desperation.

Sir Molle

coldwood92 wrote: »

1916 wasn't terroism

Yeah it was.

Myrddin

ChocolateSauce wrote: »

I'd rather not celebrate terrorism.

Then celebrate freedom..............in 7 years time....:rolleyes:

ejmaztec

THe best way of celebration is to have another one, because we're just ripe for it.:(

galwayrush

coldwood92 wrote: »

1916 wasn't terroism

It wasn't the brightest idea either, those who died were actually booed and pelted with rotten fruit by the people of Dublin after they were arrested, they only became heroes after they were executed.:rolleyes:

Sir Molle

brummytom wrote: »

The climate was very different at the time, to be fair. The famine was, for some, still a very vivid memory; and still a very stirring/driving force. To support the English after that would be to disrespect the millions of lives lost in vain.

While I don't in any way condone terrorism, I can't help but understand the motivation behind such actions. People don't become terrorists out of boredom - it's desperation.

That's complete bullshit. Ireland was actually better off under British rule. Collins is entirely to blame for the troubles in the north. He was a terrorist scum bag which ever way you look at it.

Nodin

Sir Molle wrote: »

That's complete bullshit. Ireland was actually better off under British rule.

Dear o dear......

galwayrush

EnterNow wrote: »

Then celebrate freedom..............in 7 years time....:rolleyes:

We might as well celebrate the FF tent at the Galway Races,it's had a major impact on the country, and besides, we'll probably be too broke to celebrate anything after bailing out the bankers with all our tax money. Look how far we've come.:(

Myrddin

Sir Molle wrote: »

That's complete bullshit. Ireland was actually better off under British rule. Collins is entirely to blame for the troubles in the north. He was a terrorist scum bag which ever way you look at it.

I DARE ya to say that in ANY pub in the country (ROI)....

blubloblu

Ask the French if they'll give us a prezzie.

brummytom

Sir Molle wrote: »

That's complete bullshit. Ireland was actually better off under British rule.

Good stuff, we'll come back over then.

Myrddin

galwayrush wrote: »

We might as well celebrate the FF tent at the Galway Races,it's had a major impact on the country, and besides, we'll probably be too broke to celebrate anything after bailing out the bankers with all our tax money. Look how far we've come.:(

Difference being we've had a long time to evaluate Fianna Fail, and yet still voted them in.

galwayrush

Haha, Life Of Brian moment, what ever have the Romans British ever done for us?..............:D

galwayrush

brummytom wrote: »

Good stuff, we'll come back over then.

Just long enough to rebuild our railways and finish off the Motorways.
I think if we never had 1916, we probably would have got independence later on , no divisive civil war and Motorways build many years ago.:rolleyes:

stovelid

A giant interpretive sculpture of a half-open tin of worms would be fitting.

brummytom

galwayrush wrote: »

Just long enough to rebuild our railways and finish off the Motorways.
I think if we never had 1916, we probably would have got independence later on , no divisive civil war and Motorways build many years ago.:rolleyes:

I would do the motorways but I've got a bad back so erm....

Take yer potatoes!

*Runs*

ejmaztec

Perhaps the Irish people are gluttons for punishment, only deciding every 800 years that some other shower of feckers should be telling the people to bend over and take it up the hole.:eek:

denon

Sir Molle wrote: »

I don't celebrate terrorism.

When you start secondary school in September, you should pay a lot attention in history class.

dlofnep

Sir Molle wrote: »

That's complete bullshit. Ireland was actually better off under British rule. Collins is entirely to blame for the troubles in the north. He was a terrorist scum bag which ever way you look at it.

Of course we were.. With all them penal laws, sure didn't we have a great craic under British rule.

And weren't they great to us during the famine? With all that aid they gave us, and shipments of food exported to England while a million people died?

Bring back British rule! I'm only a glutton for punishment.

Yixian

Come on, even the biggest cynics amongst you must surely soften to the idea of a Statue of Éire "Welcome back ye sons of Éireann" emblazoned in gold lettering.. it's time for a big neo-classic stone statue, enough of all this foamed glass and brushed metal!

I think it's worth making an topic dedicated to the effects of scottish independence on Irish unity, if you think about it it could REALLY shake things up, very interesting...

Robbo

I'll be taking over my nearest biscuit factory and post office. It will be hailed as a triumph.

I will also construct a cenotaph to the fallen of the Irish Internet Republican Army, the martyrs who were banned from Boards for their unwavering support for the process of killing a Garda whist robbing a post office or declaring all human history since Carthage to be a Westbrit conspiracy. Bless their brave souls.

Sir Molle

dlofnep wrote: »

Of course we were.. With all them penal laws, sure didn't we have a great craic under British rule.

And weren't they great to us during the famine? With all that aid they gave us, and shipments of food exported to England while a million people died?

Bring back British rule! I'm only a glutton for punishment.

In 1922 we were better off being part of the British Empire. Home rule only caused more trouble.

Sir Molle

denon wrote: »

When you start secondary school in September, you should pay a lot attention in history class.

Are you saying the IRA are not terrorists?

enniscorthy

lets change our national flag from the green white orange to this

http://www.nndb.com/people/600/000022534/gglitter-yipes.jpg

hehehehehehehehehehehehahahahahahahaaha

Myrddin

Sir Molle wrote: »

Are you saying the IRA are not terrorists?

Are you saying your English?

PaulieD

Sir Molle wrote: »

Collins is entirely to blame for the troubles in the north. He was a terrorist scum bag which ever way you look at it.

Did Collins rise from the dead? Like Jebus? Some man, was Mick. Collins never actually fired a shot at crown forces. He cried off sick in 1916 with a sore thumb.

Scrambled egg

Sir Molle wrote: »

That's complete bullshit. Ireland was actually better off under British rule. Collins is entirely to blame for the troubles in the north. He was a terrorist scum bag which ever way you look at it.

Sniff *Sniff * Do you guys smell that?








Smells like complete BULLSH1T

denon

Sir Molle wrote: »

Are you saying the IRA are not terrorists?

Do you mean these guys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army ? No I don't consider them terrorists. Who the fúck does? Are you getting confused with the Provisional IRA?

Pygmalion

Sir Molle wrote: »

Are you saying the IRA are not terrorists?

Are you talking about the IRA who fought our war of independence or the IRA that appeared decades later and starting bombing the north. Quite a big difference, one which you don't seem to understand.

Oh **** you Denon, had I not been talking to someone on IRC I totally would've got there first.

Adamcp898

denon wrote: »

Do you mean these guys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army ? No I don't consider them terrorists. Who the fúck does? Are you getting confused with the Provisional IRA?

less nit picking, there's been that many forms of an organisation called the IRA over the years.....................................................................................................................and anyway it was the IRB that staged the 1916 rising NOT the IRA

dlofnep

Sir Molle wrote: »

Are you saying the IRA are not terrorists?

No, the IRA were not terrorists. They were the legitimate army of Ireland, and recognized as such by Dáil Éireann. Read your history books.

Sir Molle wrote: »

In 1922 we were better off being part of the British Empire. Home rule only caused more trouble.

That's generally what happens during war, things become unsettled. Britain's stake in Ireland never had any credibility whatsoever. Things were better under British rule, compared to what?

You might like the idea of laying down, and being a good little puppy for your British masters - But the people of Ireland time and time again, ascertained the right to control their own destinies and define their own laws and policies - 1641, 1798, 1848, 1916.. You think the British would have gotten the hint.

Where exactly are you from? England? South Dublin?