The Angelus before the News,

ihadu

why in gods name is this still happening?

AckwelFoley

ihadu wrote: »

why in gods name is this still happening?

Because we are not muslim

Wertz

So we don't all go to hell. It's a small price to pay really...

giggsy664

Praise Allah!

Edgedinblue

Old biddies would complain if it wasnt on!

giggsy664

Oh shìt

wrong religion.

Sorry guys.

Rud Annamh

ihadu wrote: »

why in gods name is this still happening?

ahem, I think you mean "God"

Stato x

I think its technically not called the Angelus but a time for prayer which reflects all religions.

Just to make sure all the sheep dont get upset while worshipping the sun

lolololololol

dsmythy

Use it as a moment of reflection. Alternatively watch something else for a minute.

Wertz

dsmythy wrote: »

Use it as a moment of reflection. Alternatively watch something else for a minute.

I find it's a great opportunity to catch up on some news headlines from the UK...

gaeilgegrinds

In God's name

thelordofcheese

Rud Annamh wrote: »

ahem, I think you mean "God"

or maybe god

My name is URL

The way people stop and look towards the sky in anticipation of some divine cumshot is the funniest thing RTE have produced in years

AckwelFoley

My name is URL wrote: »

The way people stop and look towards the sky in anticipation of some divine cumshot

That_Guy

ihadu wrote: »

why in gods name is this still happening?

Clearly Dobbo and the rest of the RTE news team need that extra minute to adjust their laptop screens and for Dobbo to give Colm the name of a good porno for him to whack off to before he comes in with his sports news.

Duh.

ihadu

My name is URL wrote: »

The way people stop and look towards the sky in anticipation of some divine cumshot is the funniest thing RTE have produced in years

excellent. i'm using this the next time i rant on about it down the local.

LadyJ

Because over 3 million people in the 2006 census said that they were Roman Catholic while another couple of hundred thousand said that they were of other Christian religion. This means that even athiests are probably still filling out "Catholic" on the census just because they were raised that way.

Dman001

Because there are actually people in Ireland who pray. Why should RTE stop showing something that a small percentage of the population don't watch or like. It does no harm to anyone and it is only on for 1 minute so why do people complain?

ihadu

Dman001 wrote: »

Because there are actually people in Ireland who pray. Why should RTE stop showing something that a small percentage of the population don't watch or like. It does no harm to anyone and it is only on for 1 minute so why do people complain?

i don't shower my atheist views upon anyone, show me the same respect

Wertz

ihadu wrote: »

i don't shower my atheist views upon anyone, show me the same respect

No. Now shut up* and pay your TV license.










*Mods: not intended as an insult/abuse.

thelordofcheese

ihadu wrote: »

i don't shower my atheist views upon anyone, show me the same respect

Theres plenty of things on RTE I object to, y'know what i do?

I change the fucking channel.

It's doing no harm, it's not showering anyone with anything, not even holy jism.

Quit yer bellyachin'.

ihadu

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Theres plenty of things on RTE I object to, y'know what i do?

I change the fucking channel.

It's doing no harm, it's not showering anyone with anything, not even holy jism.

Quit yer bellyachin'.

i didn't mean to come across as passionately as i have on this subject. just seems odd to me to have this reflection time at 6pm. why is it scheduled just before the main evening news? directed to all

philologos

ihadu wrote: »

why in gods name is this still happening?

You mean you can't tolerate a series of 18 dings of a bell on the news with pictures? :pac:

You must get really riled up at the religious services on RTÉ on Sunday mornings

Really though, some people just respect that Ireland has had a healthy Judeo-Christian tradition since roughly the 4th century whether they are Christian or not.

As thelordofcheese said, you're not being forced to watch it.

Capt'n Midnight

ihadu wrote: »

i don't shower my atheist views upon anyone, show me the same respect

ihadu wrote: »

why in gods name is this still happening?

An atheist who uses gods name wondering why people can't take a minute out :rolleyes:

Just think of it as Hammer time

It's one of those little things that makes Ireland a little different, must confuse tourists no end.

Personally I'm more upset about the three minutes of un-godly ads

and as others have suggested you can catch the UK headlines, flick back catch the RTE ones and decide which news you want to see

Oh yeah , considering RTE's finances it is cheap television

thelordofcheese

Jakkass wrote: »

You mean you can't tolerate a series of 18 dings of a bell on the news with pictures? :pac:

You must get really riled up at the religious services on RTÉ on Sunday mornings

It's 18 dings and NO MONEY SHOT!

Worst. Porn. Ever.

Acacia

I don't know, but it's hilarious trying to explain to my foreign friends wtf it's about.

"Why are all these people staring into space for no reason?"

Lulz.

Poor Uncle Tom

ihadu wrote: »

why in gods name is this still happening?

No, no, no,

The Angelus is about Mary.

mike65

Someone could make a dead good parody of the Angelus minute with all those potentially catastrophic pauses and wistful eyes cast skywoods/into middle distance.

ihadu

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

An atheist who uses gods name wondering why people can't take a minute out :rolleyes:

clearly a pun.

and as others have suggested you can catch the UK headlines, flick back catch the RTE ones and decide which news you want to see

indeed i can. i can also use this time to reflect as has already been suggested. awesome

indeed i can. i can also use this time to reflect as has already been suggested. awesome

Poor Uncle Tom

mike65 wrote: »

Someone could make a dead good parody of the Angelus minute with all those potentially catastrophic pauses and wistful eyes cast skywoods/into middle distance.

methinks you've tried..how'd it go?

Biggins

Lets be honest, its a throw back to the days when the priests in this country visibly ruled the state from the headquarters in Armagh.
So the bells were introduced to remind us all that above all, God rules supreme and calls us all to pay homage to him right when they can get us altogether - at the tea table!

The muppets still haven't kopped themselves on that the rest of the world has moved on however (one example: HERE - at least some governments have the balls to stand up to them: HERE)

As for the modern days bells on the tv - I don't get annoyed any more.
I just turn RTE off all the time. Fcuk 'em!

mike65

I'm waiting to see how Tommy Tiernan or Dave McSavage does it before I unleash a version!

thelordofcheese

mike65 wrote: »

I'm waiting to see how Tommy Tiernan or Dave McSavage does it before I unleash a version!

well, at least you've set the bar so low you can't help but succeed.

Clever girl......

Dman001

ihadu wrote: »

i don't shower my atheist views upon anyone, show me the same respect

I wouldn't exactly call 1 minute of ringing bells "showering". And you are "showering" your atheist views by creating this thread.

My name is URL

mike65 wrote: »

I'm waiting to see how Tommy Tiernan or Dave McSavage does it before I unleash a version!

http://300bps.org/gallery2/d/44143-2/baloo.gif

Ollchailin

Of all the things to complain about regarding RTE, I'm far more offended by other things they do, which I won't get into.

Anyway, I know lots of people who still pray during the Angelus. Granted most of them are an older generation but to give them one minute out of 24 hours in order to do this, hardly a big ask.

stiff kitten

My name is URL wrote: »

The way people stop and look towards the sky in anticipation of some divine cumshot is the funniest thing RTE have produced in years

iv said it before...il say it again...
ur great craic

Pop's Diner

Not a fan of the Angelus being on tv everyday either and would be happy to see it off the air.

That said tho. I'd be happy enough if they played this version of it daily before the news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzRP7OKHcqQ

Archeron

ihadu wrote: »

i didn't mean to come across as passionately as i have on this subject. just seems odd to me to have this reflection time at 6pm. why is it scheduled just before the main evening news? directed to all

Because driving to work in the morning in the lashing rain isn't an ideal time to have people staring off into the distance while thinking about whatever God they wish to worship, and if it tries to compete with Coronation street at 7.30, sure there'll be no reflecting done at all...at all.

ihadu

Dman001 wrote: »

I wouldn't exactly call 1 minute of ringing bells "showering".

youre right, thats too strong. in a secular state though i don't know why its on before the news.

And you are "showering" your atheist views by creating this thread.

no.

philologos

Biggins wrote: »

Lets be honest, its a throw back to the days when the priests in this country visibly ruled the state from the headquarters in Armagh.

Really? How is a few dings of a bell paramount to ruling the State :pac:

It's interesting. I doubt Muslims, Jews, or anyone of any religious belief in Ireland would put up half as much an objection to this than anyone who is atheist or agnostic.

Biggins wrote: »

So the bells were introduced to remind us all that above all, God rules supreme and calls us all to pay homage to him right when they can get us altogether - at the tea table!

Indeed. Many of us (including myself) do believe that God reigns supreme. If you do not wish to hold this belief that is your perogative. You can also opt-out of it by changing channel

Biggins wrote: »

The muppets still haven't kopped themselves on that the rest of the world has moved on however (one example: HERE - at least some governments have the balls to stand up to them: HERE)

What's your point? The Catholic Church isn't the State, of course people can criticise them. Sure many people criticise the Catholic Church. I'd prefer if it were legitimate criticism rather than criticism for criticism's sake however.

Dman001

ihadu wrote: »

no.

The Angelus is said at 6 o'clock in the morning, 12 noon and 6 o'clock in the evening. I don't know why it is just in the evening they show it.

ihadu

Dman001 wrote: »

The Angelus is said by a select group at 6 o'clock in the morning, 12 noon and 6 o'clock in the evening. I don't know why it is just in the evening they show it.

why is it shown at all, seems outdated to me in mordern ireland

Poor Uncle Tom

Dman001 wrote: »

The Angelus is said at 6 o'clock in the morning, 12 noon and 6 o'clock in the evening. I don't know why it is just in the evening they show it.

When RTE started it was only one channel, from about 5pm to before Midnight, thus only one occasion to show the Angelus minute. I remember it on the radio at Midday also. I have heard the monastry bells at 6.00am also.

philologos

ihadu wrote: »

why is it shown at all, seems outdated to me in mordern ireland

What is modern Ireland in your opinion?

I personally think religious belief will have a place in modern Ireland whether people like it or not. Don't you?

bigdaddyliamo

If the six pm telly bell is not enough for you try tuning into rte radio one for the matinee noon show of athiest bothering bell boinging.

Dman001

ihadu wrote: »

why is it shown at all, seems outdated to me in mordern ireland

Because there are many Christians who like to take that minute to pray and reflect.

ihadu

Jakkass wrote: »

What is modern Ireland in your opinion?

I personally think religious belief will have a place in modern Ireland whether people like it or not. Don't you?

almost seems like a threat.

you have your fantasy channel on sky digital, go there for your reflection and tales of magic.

modern ireland is secular, national tv should reflect this.

thelordofcheese

Jakkass wrote: »

What is modern Ireland in your opinion?

I personally think religious belief will have a place in modern Ireland whether people like it or not. Don't you?

Well, we could have it so that every religion gets a shot, bells for the angelus on mondays, and the rest of the week cycle through the other major religions of ireland.

Ohh and one on a friday for atheists where it's one minute of people just going about their business followed by the message
"There is probably no god, stop worrying about that, the program that follows however...."

All bases covered, jobs a good 'un.

Biggins

Jakkass wrote: »

Really? How is a few dings of a bell paramount to ruling the State :pac:

I did mention something about it being "a throw back" to the past then the clergy though different - its about those times.

Jakkass wrote: »

Indeed. Many of us (including myself) do believe that God reigns supreme. If you do not wish to hold this belief that is your perogative. You can also opt-out of it by changing channel

That's fair enough - and I did guess what... mention that I turn RTE off! Guess you will have to read my post again to see that.

Jakkass wrote: »

What's your point? The Catholic Church isn't the State, of course people can criticise them. Sure many people criticise the Catholic Church. I'd prefer if it were legitimate criticism rather than criticism for criticism's sake however.

My point is that where as years ago you couldn't even speak out against the priesthood, the last vestiges of their sanctimonious self-appointed airs of importance still exist and they still think we should march to their ancient strict like rule.

We are living now in a multi-cultural, more modern like state.
Feck - maybe we should start behaving that way too and throw away the last vestiges of the archaic shows of our now exposed priest dirty eras and their twisted ways of doing things.
The memory of those bells is enough to remind me how backwards we really still are as long as they exist.

..and honestly... why the hell does one need bells in order to pray?
Can one not prompt oneself on their own to carry out their faith without ruddy bells on!

---

Absolutely no disrespect to yourself Jakkass.
Anyone that wishes to take away or effect your wish to follow your faith, I'd stand beside you and fend them off.

I just think its time we all moved on in ways of doing things, change the out of date way we are seen and rid ourselves of the ways of the stained past that now are well and truly ruined by evil men of the cloth that have destroyed generations of children.

philologos

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Well, we could have it so that every religion gets a shot, bells for the angelus on mondays, and the rest of the week cycle through the other major religions of ireland.

As someone who wouldn't normally recite the Angelus ever it doesn't bother me. Likewise I doubt many others of non-Catholic faith will have much issue with it, rather it seems to be only atheists for some reason. I recognise that our society is still culturally Catholic, if not religiously Catholic for the majority of people as such I find it fine for the time to be there.

Biggins wrote: »

I did mention something about it being "a throw back" to the past then the clergy though different - its about those times.

How is what is effectively a call to prayer similar to what is commonly done at Mosques a call back to the past. The past is irrelevant when Catholicism is very much a part of the present. I personally don't hold to it but many do.

Biggins wrote: »

My point is that where as years ago you couldn't even speak out against the priesthood, the last vestiges of their sanctimonious self-appointed airs of importance still exist and they still think we should march to their ancient strict like rule.

I'm sure people could have spoken out quite easily, but rather were hindered by popular opinion. Why should public opinion have influenced peoples personal views? It's quite funny that I haven't noticed a single Catholic priest to be sanctimonious. I do find that a lot of atheists are sanctimonious about what people desire to believe in by referring to belief systems as being "out of date" and other such nonsense when they are pretty much a part of the present still.