So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

CiDeRmAn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118450023#Comment_118450023

See Retr0, I have now a 50 year old set of thumbs... just about

Not sure what my excuse was when I was 40, or 30 for that matter...

Retr0gamer

Hard games are nothing to do with skills and reflexes I find. It's more about the discipline to stick with them and not give up after it kills you and laughs at you :D

CiDeRmAn

Ah. now he tells me...

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453866#Comment_118453866

Like Cuphead. Screaming at the screen the other day.

Retr0gamer

That's pretty much it. I think today's games environment means you have to put in a bit more effort into tough games. These were shorter games but also usually the only game you had for 6, maybe 12 months so you played the crap out of that one game. These days games are so cheap that you have so many options. Games are a hell of a lot easier now so you come to expect an easier ride (the ease is usually to necessitate the games length rather than a slight against them). It's too easy to bounce off a tough game after one go like Contra and go to a modern game that's a lot more forgiving.

CiDeRmAn

It was one of the things about the Uncharted/Last of Us/Batman/Gears of War titles of the last ten years.

Those games had no challenge at all, just one pretty environment after another, huge signposting and generous checkpoints, literal environmental handholding throughout.

Only the narrative saved most of them, and the disconnect in the likes of the Batman trilogy, between you and the action on screen, always felt jarring.

Certainly, I wouldn't have gotten 6 months of gameplay out of any of them, if I was relying on them for my gaming buzz, fair to say none of them would last six days, some not even six hours, before the campaign/story would run out of things to say and you'd be back on the main menu again.

Retr0gamer

I see them as different types of games and experiences. Imagine how annoying Uncharted or Halo would be if it was bitch slapping you back to 30 minutes if you died three times.

Then again you could play Halo on Legendary and have absolutely no fun at all.

Inviere

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118454488#Comment_118454488

Indeed, not sure I get the Robotron v Last of Us comparison there Cidey.....totally different type of game. The narrative & world are parts of the experience really.

Retr0gamer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118456081#Comment_118456081

And Robotron is infinitely better.

I'm not even going to say fight me because I'm right.

Inviere

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118456091#Comment_118456091

Better than Legend of Dragoon? Oh I agree.

CiDeRmAn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118456081#Comment_118456081

Oh, I wasn't quite drawing a comparison between those particular generations of games.

In fact, the ones I mentioned have lots of peers that were far more of a challenge, say Bayonetta and Vanquish or Ico and Super Mario Galaxy, they had visual spectacle, as well as challenges for all players.

Inviere

Ico perhaps, I still wouldn't compare the others directly. Subjectively, the story in certain types of games for me is a huge part of it...that's why I enjoyed the games in question. There's no doubt for pick up & play fun, the likes of Mario Galaxy etc is going to appeal more.

Jack burton

I think most new blockbuster games are like a prolonged movie experience. Not that its a bad thing of course. Just depends what your looking for. The original gears of war trilogy would probably be a long weekends worth of gaming now to someone who wanted to blast through them. Would definitely be a good time too, I'm a big fan of those games. Of course you can take longer at them and ramp up the difficulty to get more bang for your buck. But they are definitely a gaming cinematic experience

Then on the other hand you have the likes of Read Dead Redemption 2 or FFXV. Which you could potentially get 6 months, or longer, out of playing the crap out of it. Or even Mortal Kombat 11, I know some people who haven't stopped playing that since it came out with online play for it still being big.

Really thinking about it, its not a whole lot different to the PS1 which I grew up playing. I remember beating Soul Reaver on a rental weekend and really enjoying it. Also remember spending probably the best part of a year playing FF VIII. Not sure how well I've made my point, hopefully someone gets what I mean

Retr0gamer

Nobody should play red dead 2 for more than a few hours let alone weeks.

TechnoFreek

OG GTA VC on PS2 via OSSC on my LG OLED.

Acronyms much?

deadduck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118458987#Comment_118458987

Not a fan of RDR2? I don’t prefer it over RDR1, but it’s a very high quality game with tons of character. Some of the stuff it makes you do is a nuisance (like managing your stamina bar and rubbish like that), but there’s far more to like than dislike

Worztron

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118518414#Comment_118518414

OSSC?

Inviere

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118520023#Comment_118520023

Open Source Scan Converter. It's an external scaler, akin to the Retrotink etc

Worztron

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118520084#Comment_118520084

I see, tu. :)

Mr.Saturn

I know the Switch's Online Expansion Pack was quite rightly lambasted upon its reveal, but I can't say I'm not having a whale of a time jumping between Mario 64, Contra Hard Corps, Gunstar Heroes and SoR2. Mind you, the emulation on the N64 does seem to be a little bit on the laggy side.

Inviere

Yeah there's still significant input lag for their N64 emulation. It has been improved compared to the previous release, but still quite bad.

o1s1n

Thought I'd give myself an interesting evening challenge before going to sleep, trying to no death clear Sonic 1 on my Nomad.

Doesn't actually sound like the hardest thing to do and I know the game inside out so it should be possible. Little bit more difficult on the smaller screen.

Thought I had it in the bag last night, was breezing through the game without being touched, had all the Chaos Emeralds so far (I think it was 5?) - was beating Robotnik's ass at the end of Springyard Zone and fell down one of the gaps where he'd lifted a block. There were more than a few profanities out of me! :pac:

On a side point, my Nomad is actually outputting composite video and it's really interesting to see Sega's dithering effects in use, like the waterfalls in Greenhill Zone - I haven't actually seen that effect in years as I've been using RGB so long.

It's kind of an interesting mix actually, the screen is so small that it still looks sharp in composite, yet you get those extra effects - kind of the best of both worlds.

Inviere

No death Sonic 1....interesting. Labyrinth 3 puts me off trying it.

o1s1n

Hah, yeah I think a bit of practice on that one would be needed, just to know you can get up the wall during the boss fight at the end without completely freaking out... !

Inviere

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118544620#Comment_118544620

I had to have known that back in the day....but for my last more recent playthrough, I was certainly no longer aware of it...died a LOT trying to defeat Robotnik on that stage. Once it dawned on me that all I had to focus on was the jumping/timing, and Robotnik didn't matter, I flew through it.

Retr0gamer

Been playing a lot of Warioland on the analogue Pocket.

Could never get into this game initially. The first stage or two just feel really ordinary. But glad I stuck with it because the game quickly becomes a hell of a lot better.

You could tell R&D1 were a little bit sick of copying EADs mario for the Gameboy and Warioland is their time to let loose with their own ideas. It feels like a mario game but plays totally differently, with its own set of rules. It's way more about collecting coins and exploring levels for secret stages (and a whole secret world) and treasures. It can get pretty inventive at times.

While the game never reaches the full on subversion of platform tropes that the sequels would it's a really inventive and fun platformer that I'm glad has finally clicked with me.

Retr0gamer

Man ninja gaiden on the game gear.

What a disappointment.

Ninja gaiden is much better known on the nes but the master system game is totally different and an absolute gem on the system. Seriously up there with one of the best 8 bit games.

So I've had ninja gaiden for the game gear for ages and tried it on the analogue pocket and it's a totally different game to the nes and master system game.

Its also kind of crap. It's like GG Shinobi except really bad.

The Nal

Timesplitters 2. A few bits very dated obviously but still plays great for a 20 year old game. Easy mode is crap.

Colonel Panic

Playing through the FDS version of Castlevania via MiSTer. I think I’ll buy a real copy of this as it’s great!

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118596857#Comment_118596857

Love the monitor