So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

o1s1n

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

So many of my fave gamer were on the PS, Tekken 3, Metal Gear Solid, Descent, Doom, Colony Wars, F1'97, Colin McCrea, Gran Turismo, Driver, GTA all class.
Now I know that some were available on other platforms, but the PS was the console to own if you wanted to play all of them.
Much like the PS2 that followed it, the console was a real "everyman" machine.

I hear ya man. The Playstation really was up there. It's one console I generally go 'meh' when looking for an old game to put on. Have decided to give it proper attention over the last while..and my god. How did I forget some of these games?! I could replay Syndicate Wars alone for years.

Atavan-Halen

It's mad how there was 100000000000000000000's of games for the PS1 and 2, and how there's like 5 for the PS3.

o1s1n

atavan-halen wrote: »

It's mad how there was 100000000000000000000's of games for the PS1 and 2, and how there's like 5 for the PS3.

I find it hilarious :pac:

97i9y3941

glad i kept my psone games..

CCCP^

Playing a good bit of Earthworm Jim on the SCD. On lvl 6 I think now, it's the underwater one where you are travelling around in a glass sub, ahhh!

Retr0gamer

CCCP^ wrote: »

Playing a good bit of Earthworm Jim on the SCD. On lvl 6 I think now, it's the underwater one where you are travelling around in a glass sub, ahhh!

That it's a total ****er of a level. It's impossible unless you know a secret which is just out and out bad level design. Took me weeks to figure it out. I'm pretty sure you are dying at the same submarine section over and over. Well and the section you keep running out of air on there's a long tunnel going diagonally down, when you get to the bottom head backwards into the wall. There's an air refill there. Makes the level a breeze. After that bit I was able to get through the whole game in one go.

o1s1n

I'm after heading back out to the folks for Christmas. So dragged a few Neo Geo games I haven't really played on the cab yet out.

Just had my first proper full play through of Blazing Star on an arcade monitor. (Actually managed to wrangle my sister in to a 2 player game...she's pretty damn good at it I must say.)

A CRT television is nice, but my oh my. This is mind blowing. Especially with the close proximity you are to the screen. Couple of levels actually made me dizzy.

Tomorrow is going to be Metal Slug 3 and Sengoku 3. I may be a little anti social this christmas.

CiDeRmAn

Sounds like a nice way to spend Christmas, hoping by this time 2010 I too will have some sort of cab arrangement and can play NeoGeo carts as they should be played.

Played a bit of Luigi's Mansion the other day, testing a piece of software that allows me to play my Jap games again.
Wow, that game is great and packed full of neat idea's, like Luigi singing the ingame music to himself, making nervous noises in darkened area's, the lovely vacuum effects on cloth covered objects.
The whole game has a "tangibility", a kind of solid feel that most other titles lack, it doesn't feel like you are controlling a bunch of polygons but that you are guiding a beautiful Luigi figurine about a horror themed dolls house.
A very nice game indeed.

Syferus

atavan-halen wrote: »

It's mad how there was 100000000000000000000's of games for the PS1 and 2, and how there's like 5 for the PS3.

Cough cough splutter. Cough splutter cough cough.

Gummy Panda

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Played a bit of Luigi's Mansion the other day, testing a piece of software that allows me to play my Jap games again.
Wow, that game is great and packed full of neat idea's, like Luigi singing the ingame music to himself, making nervous noises in darkened area's, the lovely vacuum effects on cloth covered objects.
The whole game has a "tangibility", a kind of solid feel that most other titles lack, it doesn't feel like you are controlling a bunch of polygons but that you are guiding a beautiful Luigi figurine about a horror themed dolls house.
A very nice game indeed.

I loved it. I think it got slated because people wanted a mario game at launch. It was a really good game despite being a little short.

Retr0gamer

Yep Luigis Mansion is a very good game if a little short. I think people were expecting a groundbreaking game like mario 64 at the GC launch and it got unfairly hammered.

I'm playing a good bit of Gunners Heaven today aka Rapid Reload in Europe. It was a PS1 launch title and it's excellent. It's a massive Gunstar Heroes rip off but it's still an excellent game. Another game that got overlooked because it wasn't 3D. It holds up way better than the rest of the PS1 launch due to some gorgeous 2D visuals. I got it from the japanese PSN.

Gummy Panda

Okay, so is there a difference between Streets of Rage 3 and Bare Knuckle 3 (Bare Knuckle is the Japanese version of streets of rage)?

I've heard people going on like there is a difference but they never explained why. Also does EU Streets of Rage 2 suffer the 50hz slowdown like Sonic?

o1s1n

All EU megadrive games have 50hz slowdown bar a handful that were PAL optimised.As do ALL snes games. When I say a handful, I mean literally that. probably five or so (Maybe even less). Alien Soldier was one of them.

Streets of Rage 3 is a censored, cut down version of Bare Knuckle. It's a waste of money.

Here's a good list of all the differences -

http://www.streetsofrage.net/bare_knuckle_iii.htm

Retr0gamer

Don't bother with Streets of Rage 3. The cuts to the game are annoying but even worse is the increase in difficulty that makes the game frustrating rather than fun. Bare Knuckle 3 is way better.

Syferus

In reality, none of the Streets of Rage games are technically fantastic - or, of course, original - but few games have had as perfect a soundtrack as the original Streets of Rage.

When I think of the Mega Drive I think of Streets of Rage and it's because of Yuzo Koshiro's distillation of 1980's ambient synth into the perfect soundtrack to an urban journey.

Gummy Panda

Syferus wrote: »

In reality, none of the Streets of Rage games are technically fantastic - or, of course, original - but few games have had as perfect a soundtrack as the original Streets of Rage.

When I think of the Mega Drive I think of Streets of Rage and it's because of Yuzo Koshiro's distillation of 1980's ambient synth into the perfect soundtrack to an urban journey.

Tbh, I at the moment i can't think of too many beat'em ups that were as fun on the 16-bit home consoles. I can think of arcade games no problem though.

Syferus

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Tbh, I at the moment i can't think of too many beat'em ups that were as fun on the 16-bit home consoles. I can think of arcade games no problem though.

That doesn't negate the point they aren't technically great - everything it did gameplay-wise Final Fight did first and did better. That doesn't mean it was a bad game or that it wasn't fun; that's entirely subjective. The point I made is that what elevates the original Streets of Rage technically (and emotionally for me) is its soundtrack.

o1s1n

Streets of rage 2 and 3 are visually fantastic for the Megadrive. The sprites are really big and look great.

The music as you already mentioned is fantastic too. A feat in itself given the limitations of the Megadrive soundchip.

Another obvious great beat em up of the 16 bit era is Super Double Dragon. Really suffers from 50hz slowdown in PAL regions though.

If you're willing to go up to 24 bit, Sengoku 2 and 3 are brilliant on the Neo Geo. Particularly 3.

Syferus

o1s1n wrote: »

Streets of rage 2 and 3 are visually fantastic for the Megadrive. The sprites are really big and look great.

The music as you already mentioned is fantastic too. A feat in itself given the limitations of the Megadrive soundchip.

Another obvious great beat em up of the 16 bit era is Super Double Dragon. Really suffers from 50hz slowdown in PAL regions though.

If you're willing to go up to 24 bit, Sengoku 2 and 3 are brilliant on the Neo Geo. Particularly 3.

It was less a feat than a great understanding of what the sound chip did well - most Mega Drive games have an almost metallic sheen of a sound, which meant they had a tendency to be slightly abrasive whereas Sony's S-SMP sound chip in the SNES (developed by none other than Ken Kutaragi!) was, relatively speaking, an all-singing all-dancing brass band of a chip that could fire out MIDI-ized version of multi-piece orchestras without becoming mangled.

Koshiro showed more than a few times that he probably had the best understanding of how to approach the Mega Drive sound chip - with the Jean Michel-Jarre-esque Street of Rage soundtrack nestled beside the pretty lauded Ys I & II soundtracks, both series relying on a similar ambient sound rather than trying to ape full orchestration.

CiDeRmAn

Ah yes, Streets of Rage...

Didn't I spend a lot of time slating those games during the year?


I wonder why?
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Oh yeah, because the side scrolling beat'em up is a crap genre!

Aside from Batman Returns on the Snes, of course!

o1s1n

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Ah yes, Streets of Rage...

Didn't I spend a lot of time slating those games during the year?


I wonder why?
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Oh yeah, because the side scrolling beat'em up is a crap genre!

Aside from Batman Returns on the Snes, of course!

You have no soul.

On Christmas of all days!

corcaigh07

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Ah yes, Streets of Rage...

Didn't I spend a lot of time slating those games during the year?


I wonder why?
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Oh yeah, because the side scrolling beat'em up is a crap genre!

Aside from Batman Returns on the Snes, of course!

bloody hell Ciderman, get out!

o1s1n

corcaigh07 wrote: »

bloody hell Ciderman, get out!

To be honest I think he just secretly hates videogames

We all know Halo isn't really a videogame.

Retr0gamer

LIGHTNING wrote: »

But their was a few cross platforms games that were brilliant out at the time. Assault rigs on the PC was an absolute gem, top notch graphics, brilliant music and a really good control scheme. It was twice the game compared to the PS1 version.

You got me the the wrong way. I meant that every time a game was availableon both platforms it was always better on the PC (FFVII being the only exception).

bildo

Retr0gamer wrote: »

(FFVII being the only exception).

Did you try VIII? It actually runs better through an emulator than the actual PC release.

o1s1n

bildo wrote: »

Did you try VIII? It actually runs better through an emulator than the actual PC release.

That's hilarious!

I would imagine the same can be said for VII too.

Retr0gamer

The problem I had with VII and VIII is that the music on the PC sounds awful. They're just sloppy ports.

o1s1n

Unfortunately Sengoku 3 wouldnt work in my cab Works in my AES fine. I think it's just down to dirty contacts. Wasn't in the humour for cleaning carts on the laziest few days of the year though.

Did get to play a lot of Metal Slug 3. Even found a new alternate path. It's great, I always think I've found them all and then another one pops up. Really need to spend more time with that game. It's much better than I give it credit for.

CiDeRmAn

I do like videogames, I really do.
And I'm a hardcore videogamer too,

I own a PS2 and have lots of Fifa games and I played Medal Of Honor Frontline so there!


On a brighter note, I have Assault Rigs on my PS1, and not a bad little game it is.
I can see how the neon lit, tron stylie visuals would get even better on a HD display though.

Got a lovely Joystick Junkies hoodie for chrimbo, with the Arcade Asylum Class of 78 logo on front together with the Space Invaders Monster, nice!

97i9y3941

pga 96 on megadrive