So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

unky chop chop

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Ahhhh!!!!!

And, if I don't do something with it it'll be lost in the mania that will be the arrival of the PS4 into the house!

[sarcasm] And that's not considering the deluge of incredible WiiU games doubtlessly around the corner! [/sarcasm]

Yep I hear ya....it takes commitment
September comes GTA5, November....Xbox1.
I'm afraid to start playing any games with longevity until then.
Be strong though,take the bull by the horns and make the decision....we will support you in your time of need when your life unravels and all turns to sh1t:)

Myrddin

unky chop chop wrote: »

November....Xbox1

Ah, so you're the bloke that pre-ordered an Xbox 1......:P

Actually I seen 'the list' of console pre-orders in a Smyths store a few weeks back. Out of 70 odd PS4 orders, there were 12 Xbox 1 orders.

o1s1n

Thought I'd happened across a game breaking glitch in Evermore's great pyramid. After about an hour of backtracking all over the place I finally figured it out. Thank **** for that. Last game which did that to me was The Story of Thor a few months back - glitched out towards the end. Unbearable!

CiDeRmAn

I'm in no rush to replace the 360 as it happens, Halo 5 or not.
I'll pick up the PS4 though, not under any illusion that Sony somehow are Sammy better than the competition, they'd still rip off my skin and dry it in the mums attic if they thought they'd make money from it.

Game glitches, see more in this gen than ever before, games freezing, often within doing distance of an auto save point, B@stards!

murphyebass

Currently playing Zelda spirit tracks on ds as in on hols in rainy mayo. I started it about 2 years ago but never really got into it. Im currently looking for an engineer to fix a bridge to open up the 3rd zone fully. So far ive enjoyed it. I thought id hate the controls but i think it works really well. In particular the circle motion to do a 360 sword move is cool.

johnny_ultimate

There's a lot of good stuff in Spirit Tracks - certainly fixed several of the more grievous design errors from Phantom Hourglass - but the train stuff was infuriating. It's basically the antithesis of the freeform exploration Zelda has always thrived on. I got around 85% through it before just getting fed up of how finicky traveling was.

Between the two DS games, you basically have one great Zelda game. Shame it's not a coherent whole.

murphyebass

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

There's a lot of good stuff in Spirit Tracks - certainly fixed several of the more grievous design errors from Phantom Hourglass - but the train stuff was infuriating. It's basically the antithesis of the freeform exploration Zelda has always thrived on. I got around 85% through it before just getting fed up of how finicky traveling was.

Between the two DS games, you basically have one great Zelda game. Shame it's not a coherent whole.

yeah its definately infuriating on the train front but other than that i do like it. Never played phantom hourglass so cant comment. I read the reviews on both though and spirit tracks definately came out on top. Thin ill have to give a link to the past a go soon. I know i know i havent played it yet but i will. Seriously a youth of playin way too much iss and wwf games has a lot to answer for!

valleyoftheunos

murphyebass wrote: »

Currently playing Zelda spirit tracks on ds as in on hols in rainy mayo. I started it about 2 years ago but never really got into it. Im currently looking for an engineer to fix a bridge to open up the 3rd zone fully. So far ive enjoyed it. I thought id hate the controls but i think it works really well. In particular the circle motion to do a 360 sword move is cool.

Have to say I loved Phantom Hourglass and Spirit tracks although ST is not all that cannonical with trains and bringing Zelda with you. I know many people disliked the controls but I found them simple and responsive.

o1s1n

I absolutely loved Phantom Hourglass. Even the backtracking didn't annoy me. Really great game.

Spirit Tracks on the other hand, I just couldn't get over the whole train thing. Think I quit that one after a few hours.

The Ayatolla

Streets of Rage 1 via iPhone. What a game!

Retr0gamer

Phantom Hourglass for me was missing any kind of challenge what so ever. If it's harder to die in a game than it is to beat it then you just feel like you are cruising through it on God Mode. I was very disappointed in it.

Star Lord

I guess this kinda goes against the grain with a lot of people, but I loved the Temple of the Ocean King... building up as you went along to be able to venture deeper inside and take more risks...

o1s1n

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Phantom Hourglass for me was missing any kind of challenge what so ever. If it's harder to die in a game than it is to beat it then you just feel like you are cruising through it on God Mode. I was very disappointed in it.

Is it just me or have many Nintendo first party games gone this way? As much as I enjoyed the Mario 3DS games, they were all extremely easy. Even getting all of the coins was relatively simple.

As was Kid Icarus, as was Luigi's Mansion 2...just trying to figure out if anything has really posed a challenge recently?

Mr.Saturn

o1s1n wrote: »

Is it just me or have many Nintendo first party games gone this way? As much as I enjoyed the Mario 3DS games, they were all extremely easy. Even getting all of the coins was relatively simple.

As was Kid Icarus, as was Luigi's Mansion 2...just trying to figure out if anything has really posed a challenge recently?

Donkey Kong Country Returns, and completely to its benefit. Fantastic game, but I'm a bit cautious about the sequel, since the original got a bit of flack for its difficulty, and Ninty'll want to be appeal to the broadest market possible.

Well, DKCR is second-party, but yanno what I mean. It was pretty refreshing to not have all the challenge located in the post-game for once.

Retr0gamer

I noticed it as well. The first party games are getting an awful lot easier. Even Fire Emblem, although that one at least gives you the option to wimp out on perma death. Sometimes a bit of challenge can add an awful lot to a game. The new mario games I usually have 99 lives before I finish the second world. In the old games extra lives were very hard to come by.

At least their second parties keep the difficulty up with DKCR and Xenoblade.

CiDeRmAn

I was tempted to by DKCR on the 3DS but I have it on the Wii and they're the same games, aren't they?
The sequel on the WiiU looks fantastic, looking forward to it, I hope they get in enough copies for everyone here in Ireland, about 15 should cover it?

Mr.Saturn

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I was tempted to by DKCR on the 3DS but I have it on the Wii and they're the same games, aren't they?
The sequel on the WiiU looks fantastic, looking forward to it, I hope they get in enough copies for everyone here in Ireland, about 15 should cover it?

3DS version adds a new world and a new mode, that adds trinkets to lower the difficulty, but otherwise the spit of its older Wii brother.

Retr0gamer

Just beat Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey. It's one of the best RPGs I've ever played but also one of the toughest. So satisfying to have it behind me now. Wonderful setting and storyline, very different from typical JRPG fare but then you can never accuse SMT of being boring.

johnny_ultimate

Started playing Metal Gear Revengeance. Excuse me while I cackle with pure glee: it is absolutely inspired in its ridiculousness, silky smooth in its gameplay. Word of warning: the game's tutorials are dreadful, but learn to parry fast. Around an hour in it becomes an absolute necessity.

blag

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Started playing Metal Gear Revengeance. Excuse me while I cackle with pure glee: it is absolutely inspired in its ridiculousness, silky smooth in its gameplay. Word of warning: the game's tutorials are dreadful, but learn to parry fast. Around an hour in it becomes an absolute necessity.

The dodge is a necessity that the game fails to point out also (x+a) and the blade cancel is really useful when things get hectic (tap L trigger to go into blade mode which cancels the recovery of an attack).
Edit: You can also use the dodge to cancel some attacks and use it kind of like Bayonetta's offset.

Retr0gamer

Currently chatting up hunky samurai guys in Hakuoki. Also playing Megaman Powered Up. It's such a great remake with bucketloads of content.

One thing I never hear people talk about when it comes to this game is the level editor that is included and the incredible amount of content the community made for the game. This was before LBP and this game has platform physics that don't suck donkey dick.

o1s1n

Blazing through Secret of Evermore at the moment. So should be finished it in not too long. Have a tough choice to make now though, what RPG next?

I have Illusion of Time sitting at home. But Final Fantasy III/VI has been shipped and on the way from the US.

I've already played FF VI, but on a tiny DS screen - really don't think I appreciated it fully because of this. It was also years ago and I've a terrible memory so it'll almost be like a new game.

So, which one to go with first?

TechnoFreek

Fired up R Type Leo on the cab through mame.
Very good game. Super smooth with some fiendish enemy designs.

o1s1n

Well, just finished Secret of Evermore. I want to say it's a fantastic game, but there were so many annoyances. I haven't checked gamefaqs that many times in a very long time. Nothing in it is really very intuitive. At all. I'd say without GameFaqs I'd have spent about 1/3 more time wandering around just trying to figure out where the hell to go.

And don't get me started on all those crappy puzzles. Just aimlessly wandering from screen to screen until you find your way out - it's like the whole game is built around this crappy logic.

But I dunno, something I really enjoyed about it. One of those games that, when you sum up all the bad stuff, it should be worse than it is - but it's great!

Music and visuals are some of the best I've seen/heard on the Snes. Gets my thumbs up (even thought it feels like it shouldn't)

Retr0gamer

Yep it's a pain but like a lot of my favourite games the fact that it's so interesting absolves it of it's sins. File it in there with Rule of Rose and Fragile Dreams.

I've played better games that have bored me more.

o1s1n

It's a funny phenomena isn't it? Just goes to show, takes all sorts to make a good game.

I guess it's the same reason we suffered through all those shooting sections in Deadly Premonition

CiDeRmAn

Finished GTA4!
And the mission length with rubbish checkpoints is a real drag, but made it in the end, some 4 years or so since I got it at launch!

Retr0gamer

You should reward yourself by playing a something different, like a good game :P

CiDeRmAn

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You should reward yourself by playing a something different, like a good game :P

You know, it was your support and warm words of encouragement that got me through.
"Good game" and this from the guy that hates LoD and is an apologist for the CDi Zelda abomination!
I suppose I could play AvP on the Jag, the Wolfenstein clone :P

Myrddin

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You should reward yourself by playing a something different, like a good game :P

Are you kidding? He's already seen a copy of GTA 4 in his local Smyths he wants to buy, getting rid of his existing GTA 4 though is the tricky part