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If Dublin was attacked by Nuclear weapon?

  • 17-07-2009 3:09am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭


    Only one place in Ireland is going to be attacked by a Nuclear weapon and that is Dublin. If one hit what would the survival strategy be? Does the Government have a strategy not to be blown to bits? Everything is so centralised in Ireland that one strike would make the country impotent.
    I do think the country should have a plan in case of a strike because the results will be terrifying.

    Vid shows average Nuclear weapons - except for the last two - the first is "Dominic" - the second "Tsar" (biggest nuclear weapon ever detonated)



    Alot of these were tested on US soil but they discovered the colour of the sunset was changing so they swiftly moved tests to the Pacific....that is where the US' most powerful bomb "Dominic" was tested after the USSR detonated the Tsar bomb which has never been equalled. The shockwave was so severe it could be recorded on it's third passage around the globe and left the eco system in that part of the Artic in chaos since. Humans still cannot set foot on the blast site which measure's 100's of km's.

    So if Dublin was attacked could it cope? Me, I very much doubt it. Some of the city would be intact but there is no real plan to deal with a nuclear emergency....is there?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Fukk it, just nuke Sellafield, two for one or whatever


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭truecrippler


    Enola Gay haha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Only one place in Ireland is going to be attacked by a Nuclear weapon and that is Dublin. If one hit what would the survival strategy be? Does the Government have a strategy not to be blown to bits? Everything is so centralised in Ireland that one strike would make the country impotent.
    I do think the country should have a plan in case of a strike because the results will be terrifying.

    Vid shows average Nuclear weapons - except for the last two - the first is "Dominic" - the second "Tsar" (biggest nuclear weapon ever detonated)



    So if Dublin was attacked could it cope? Me, I very much doubt it. Some of the city would be intact but there is no real plan to deal with a nuclear emergency....is there?

    eh no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Ireland is safe, we don't fúck around with anyone. They won't feck around with us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 250 ✭✭Fugly


    You mean you don't have the gov. issued Iodine tablets????...:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:*


    Clearly said with sarcasm.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Fugly wrote: »
    You mean you don't have the gov. issued Iodine tablets????...:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


    The ones that are out of date?


    I think they would mean f*ck all in a Nuclear blast anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Ireland is safe, we don't fúck around with anyone. They won't feck around with us.
    Skynet gives a ****.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Seriously, who the **** is going to nuke Ireland?

    the Yanks love us, the British would feel the need to protect us to make up for past mistakes, the Chinese are our trade partners, we send people all over the world as peace keepers.

    We are not a target.

    Only possible problem we would have is fallout from an attack on a British target (for Dublin, Liverpool would have to be hit before you'd be worrying and the wind blows in the wrong direction for us to worry anyway).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭ozzirt


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Seriously, who the **** is going to nuke Ireland?
    People who are forced by their partners to watch Riverdance.:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Seriously, who the **** is going to nuke Ireland?

    Eh nukes tend to be aimed toward CAPITAL cities. Dublin is far more likely before Liverpool and is certainly a target like every other Capital. Isreal has one on Dublin right now - do you know that? Because we are seen as the most anti semetic country in Europe of course. And they are smaller then us so they have to prove they have bigger balls. But don't worry they have a hard on for Germany too so most of them are aimed there.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Eh nukes tend to be aimed toward CAPITAL cities. Dublin is far more likely before Liverpool and is certainly a target like every other Capital. Isreal has one on Dublin right now - do you know that? Because we are seen as the most anti semetic country in Europe of course. And they are smaller then us so they have to prove they have bigger balls. But don't worry they have a hard on for Germany too so most of them are aimed there.

    A target for WHO though?

    Liverpool is, although a smaller city, a million times more likely to be a target than anywhere in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭James T Kirk


    Sure we could all squish into the port tunnel if we do get nuked.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Eh nukes tend to be aimed toward CAPITAL cities. Dublin is far more likely before Liverpool and is certainly a target like every other Capital. Isreal has one on Dublin right now - do you know that? Because we are seen as the most anti semetic country in Europe of course. And they are smaller then us so they have to prove they have bigger balls. But don't worry they have a hard on for Germany too so most of them are aimed there.


    Israel is going to waste one of their targeting systems on a small neutral country a few thousand miles away who have no army and no air force rather than say, targeting the 13 countries withing invasion distance who are direct threats?


    what planet do you live on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭deadhead13


    Didn't you get Willie O'Dea's "What to do in case of an emergency" leaflet. I'm sure there was a paragraph on how to deal with a nuclear fallout.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Eh nukes tend to be aimed toward CAPITAL cities. Dublin is far more likely before Liverpool and is certainly a target like every other Capital. Isreal has one on Dublin right now - do you know that? Because we are seen as the most anti semetic country in Europe of course. And they are smaller then us so they have to prove they have bigger balls. But don't worry they have a hard on for Germany too so most of them are aimed there.

    Is my sarcasm detector broken?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Israel is going to waste one of their targeting systems on a small neutral country

    Yes because this country is anti semetic. They know we are. No point hiding it. We are the most anti semetic country in the EU. They don't like that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Yes because this country is anti semetic. They know we are. No point hiding it. We are the most anti semetic country in the EU. They don't like that.

    And they're going to blow us up for that rather than countries which plot and carry out actual attacks against Israel and its citizens in (technically) their home country? Jesus I have some apologising to do over the next while.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Yes because this country is anti semetic. They know we are. No point hiding it. We are the most anti semetic country in the EU. They don't like that.

    The population here is too busy giving out about Nigerians (read: anyone who isn't white) and the Polish (read: the ones who are white but don't speak English) to give a crap about the Jews. Of all the minorities the Irish are picking on, I'd imagine the Jewish are pretty damn low on the list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭falipo


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Only one place in Ireland is going to be attacked by a Nuclear weapon and that is Dublin.

    If I had the bomb personally I could think of a few other places to use it on....*cough*Cork/Cavan/Sligo/Limerick/Carlow/etc*cough*...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    orestes wrote: »
    The population here is too busy giving out about Nigerians (read: anyone who isn't white) and the Polish (read: the ones who are white but don't speak English) to give a crap about the Jews. Of all the minorities the Irish are picking on, I'd imagine the Jewish are pretty damn low on the list.

    I think you will find it is the government attitude to the jews and this country's behaviour during and after WW2 that makes us unliked by Isreal. And we are very unliked by Isreal. For good reason in fairness to them even though they are occupying pr*cks against a weaker people. I guess Irish people just connect with that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Yes because this country is anti semetic. They know we are. No point hiding it. We are the most anti semetic country in the EU. They don't like that.

    You talking about yourself or the majority of Ireland?

    I personally don't know many people who give a flying **** about Israel, I know a LOT of people who reckon Islam is dangerous in the wrong hands, I know some people who hate eastren European people, Every taxi driver in the country hates Nigerians (read: anyone from Africa) and Pakis (Read: anyone from the refion stretching from Marocco to Sri Lanka).

    I doubt a whole lot of irish people actually care about Jews to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    darkman2 wrote: »
    I think you will find it is the government attitude to the jews and this country's behaviour during and after WW2 that makes us unliked by Isreal. And we are very unliked by Isreal. For good reason in fairness to them even though they are occupying pr*cks against a weaker people. I guess Irish people just connect with that.

    Yeah, our failure to allow in a coupla hundred Jewish immigrants during the war makes other countries' actions around that time pale into insignificance.

    Also what intelligence report are you getting this from? Since it's not been publically declared by Israel that they have nuclear weapons I'd like to know who funded the report and just how far into it you have to dig to find Dublin mentioned.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    darkman2 wrote: »
    I think you will find it is the government attitude to the jews and this country's behaviour during and after WW2 that makes us unliked by Isreal. And we are very unliked by Isreal. For good reason in fairness to them even though they are occupying pr*cks against a weaker people. I guess Irish people just connect with that.



    So now it comes out.

    You hate Israelis/Jews because you are a Hamas sympathizer?

    Fair enough, but it's only really you, bleeding heart emo kiddies, people who studied arts at college and sinn fein supporters who actually pretend to care about the Israeli occupation of Palastine.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    amacachi wrote: »
    Yeah, our failure to allow in a coupla hundred Jewish immigrants during the war makes other countries' actions around that time pale into insignificance.

    Also what intelligence report are you getting this from? Since it's not been publically declared by Israel that they have nuclear weapons I'd like to know who funded the report and just how far into it you have to dig to find Dublin mentioned.



    It's common knowledge that Israel has nuclear weapons man, they have never denied it, they just say they won't be the first to "introduce" them to a conflect in the middle east.

    They probably don't have the range to hit Ireland though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Seaneh wrote: »
    It's common knowledge that Israel has nuclear weapons man, they have never denied it, they just say they won't be the first to "introduce" them to a conflect in the middle east.

    They probably don't have the range to hit Ireland though.

    Ah yeah, I'm not an idiot, like everyone knows they have them, despite the UN never publishing anything, for some reason, but I'd just love to know where this thing about them having one lined up for Ireland comes from.

    Also, lovely sweeping generalisation about people opposed to Israel.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    amacachi wrote: »
    Ah yeah, I'm not an idiot, like everyone knows they have them, despite the UN never publishing anything, for some reason, but I'd just love to know where this thing about them having one lined up for Ireland comes from.

    Also, lovely sweeping generalisation about people opposed to Israel.


    I'm just fighting fire with fire man, I don't actually see it that way.

    Be careful what you say though.

    There is a difference between being opposed to Israel occupation of Gaza and The Left Bank and actually being opposed to Israel, if ya get me?

    As for the nukes pointed at Ireland thing? he's pulling it out of his arse tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Seaneh wrote: »
    I'm just fighting fire with fire man, I don't actually see it that way.

    Be careful what you say though.

    There is a difference between being opposed to Israel occupation of Gaza and The Left Bank and actually being opposed to Israel, if ya get me?

    As for the nukes pointed at Ireland thing? he's pulling it out of his arse tbh.

    Aye, pretty sick of being taken up in a different way from what I mean lately. In a lot of ways. ¬_¬'

    I know he's pulling it out of his arse, was just hoping for a link to some conspiracy site, I'm banned from the CT forum (asked to be) and now miss my daily entertainment. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Seriously, who the **** is going to nuke Ireland?

    some angry polish or eastern european guy that was treated badly in Ireland, and can get weapons at arms bizarres for pretty cheep and has the want to do it...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    some angry polish or eastern european guy that was treated badly in Ireland, and can get weapons at arms bizarres for pretty cheep and has the want to do it...

    And has the capabilities of launching it? and of hitting a target?

    Or smuggling it into the country?

    would want to be a VERY rich eastern european man!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    Seaneh wrote: »
    And has the capabilities of launching it? and of hitting a target?

    Or smuggling it into the country?

    would want to be a VERY rich eastern european man!

    Do you really think smuggling stuff into Ireland is that hard? We have a lot of coast and not a lot of people protecting it. If someone wanted to badly enough they could.

    But no one is going to do it because there’s no point. We are pretty small fish in the grand scheme of things. If there ever was a nuclear war we would probably come out really well except for possible problems with fall out when England gets Fcuked up. No one has much of a reason to use a nuke on us they all would have bigger threats to deal with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Only one place in Ireland is going to be attacked by a Nuclear weapon and that is Dublin.
    In the 1980's the Soviet Union actually had three sites pre-targeted in Ireland - Dublin, Belfast and Knock!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Doc wrote: »
    We are pretty small fish in the grand scheme of things. If there ever was a nuclear war we would probably come out really well except for possible problems with fall out when England gets Fcuked up. No one has much of a reason to use a nuke on us they all would have bigger threats to deal with.

    Is exactly what ive said already...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    And has the capabilities of launching it? and of hitting a target?

    Or smuggling it into the country?

    would want to be a VERY rich eastern european man!

    you don't have to launch a nuclear weapons as dude below said... Ireland's got what to trawlers and a few ribs in there navy... more drugs pass through Ireland then you can ever imagine......
    Doc wrote: »
    Do you really think smuggling stuff into Ireland is that hard? We have a lot of coast and not a lot of people protecting it. If someone wanted to badly enough they could.

    .
    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Which is exactly how stuff like this would happen.

    The cold war era notion that most people have is silly. The image of large missile silo's opening and countries launching nukes at other countries....who in turn retaliate with their own nukes, is laughable. Governments, who control these weapons, are interested in self preservation.

    Smuggling in a dirty bomb is what will happen eventually. Terrorists hired by other terrorists, or just crazies doing **** coz they are mental, whatever. Its inevitable. Its cheap, and you can hit anywhere in the world with it....without worrying about countermeasures like the ones the americans are so eager to install in eastern europe.

    But its going to happen to some poor country eventually. It has to. I'm just surprised it hasnt happened yet.Ofcourse, not here. We have nothing to worry about really. But If they were trying to hit the UK though, it would probably come through us or France. Some people might call that Karma :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    OP, I'd narrow that down and say "FINGLAS", lots of people would nuke Finglas.

    Or Tallaght.

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    OP, I'd narrow that down and say "FINGLAS", lots of people would nuke Finglas.
    .

    I thought someone already had.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Eh nukes tend to be aimed toward CAPITAL cities. Dublin is far more likely before Liverpool and is certainly a target like every other Capital. Isreal has one on Dublin right now - do you know that? Because we are seen as the most anti semetic country in Europe of course. And they are smaller then us so they have to prove they have bigger balls. But don't worry they have a hard on for Germany too so most of them are aimed there.

    This is what happens when you don't respect the fcuking shabbos!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    There was a nice little app, someone will have to google for it, of what would happen in the even of a nuclear strike on any given city. Basically you select the size of the weapon, point it over a realistic map of Dublin say, and then you would see the aftermath.

    The types of weapons used against Japan at the end of WW2 would flatten the city centre out to about Ranelagh to Artane. Couple of bigger weapons, placed strategically, would render Ireland uninhabitable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    Well since Dublin is called the BIG SMOKE I don't see a Problem with nuking it .


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Out of curiosity, how much damage would a nuke cause?

    Let's say one was dropped on O'Connell bridge, would I be okay in Tallaght?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    CCCP^ wrote: »
    There was a nice little app, someone will have to google for it, of what would happen in the even of a nuclear strike on any given city. Basically you select the size of the weapon, point it over a realistic map of Dublin say, and then you would see the aftermath.

    The types of weapons used against Japan at the end of WW2 would flatten the city centre out to about Ranelagh to Artane. Couple of bigger weapons, placed strategically, would render Ireland uninhabitable.



    http://www.carloslabs.com/projects/200712B/GroundZero.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Brigantes


    Out of curiosity, how much damage would a nuke cause?

    Let's say one was dropped on O'Connell bridge, would I be okay in Tallaght?


    http://www.carloslabs.com/node/16

    Edit - beaten to it by the previous poster. Would you want to live in a post-Apocalyptic Tallaght? Isn't it enough like Mad Max before a bomb goes off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    CCCP^ wrote: »
    There was a nice little app, someone will have to google for it, of what would happen in the even of a nuclear strike on any given city. Basically you select the size of the weapon, point it over a realistic map of Dublin say, and then you would see the aftermath.

    The types of weapons used against Japan at the end of WW2 would flatten the city centre out to about Ranelagh to Artane. Couple of bigger weapons, placed strategically, would render Ireland uninhabitable.

    It's ironic that the name of the bomb that nuked Nagasaki was called "Fat Man", given that our "Fat Man" has done the same to Ireland, only without the radiation. He has also rendered Ireland uninhabitable.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,604 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    /Starts looking for a GECK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭positron


    A nuclear bomb is rather expensive, like 20 billion or something. You could probably buy most of Dublin for that kind of money (and then leave it to destroy itself).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    some angry polish or eastern european guy that was treated badly in Ireland, and can get weapons at arms bizarres for pretty cheep and has the want to do it...
    Where are these "arms bizarres" on? I'd love to buy a few nukes. They'd be mostly for show though - I'd put one in the corner of each room in place of potted plants. Having your own nukes really impresses the chicks and I'd get loads of dick action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭ilovemybrick


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Eh nukes tend to be aimed toward CAPITAL cities. Dublin is far more likely before Liverpool and is certainly a target like every other Capital. Isreal has one on Dublin right now - do you know that? Because we are seen as the most anti semetic country in Europe of course. And they are smaller then us so they have to prove they have bigger balls. But don't worry they have a hard on for Germany too so most of them are aimed there.

    Yes, most of them aimed at Germany and one for Dublin, they definitely are NOT aimed at Iran, Egypt, Syria, or Libya. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    In the 1980's the Soviet Union actually had three sites pre-targeted in Ireland - Dublin, Belfast and Knock!

    well, nobody likes knock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    In the 1980's the Soviet Union actually had three sites pre-targeted in Ireland - Dublin, Belfast and Knock!


    If there was three i'd say it was DUBLIN, shannon and belfast as knock was only opened in 1986.


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