hypnosis for weight loss

fruitsalad

hi all

just wondering has anyone any experience of using hypnosis to aid weight lost? i've two stone to loose and understand good eating practice but find it hard to stick to. also enjoy walking but need some motivation.

your opinion would be greatly appreciated

fruitsalad (the irony hehehe):)

itsallaboutheL

Look into my eyes fruity...

Breath Slowly..........

Relax....

You feel sleepy

Imagine you are in a quiet room with internet access...

You access boards.ie/fitness..

Can You see the Stickies??


Follow the stickies....

[/freaky magician voice]

Good diet and exercise is the key to weight loss

squod

Stephen Fry (English actor) lost a load of weight recently by walking
and listening to books, audio books, on his ipod.
Try http://www.audiobooks.org/

I regularly listen to the radio on my phone and walk.

fruitsalad

thanks ill check it out s.

Transform

sort point here but you find it hard to stick to most likely because its not important enough for you to drop the 2 stone you want to lose.

Make it a priority. The motivation to drop weight is not going to just come to you, it needs to be something you really value (health, good figure, confidence etc) everything else is just being tentative and will not work.

Stop looking for excuses and reasons outside of sweat, good diet and consistency as they will not work and value your own well being more.

metamorphosis

What you OP possess is, well , laziness.

Proper diet and move more. You should not just do it to lose weight but you should also do it to be healthy.

Read the stickies and if you are serious come back and look for advie. Id really advise you to read the nutririon stickies too

d'Oracle

Does the hypnosis makes you eat right and exercise?

You shouldnt need hypnosis for that, you can do it by yourself a lot cheaper.

all_smilz

i had looked into it before but was put off by the cost and worry that it might not work even though i do find reiki and acupuncture beneficial but not for weight loss just the whole complementary therapy sphere...

also other posters- i dont think its JUST laziness or lack of motivation, maybe it IS, but, when I was looking into hynopsis for weight loss it was more for a confidence/motivation building while going through
the process.

OP, you have two stone to lose- read the stickies and stay walking.... you'll get there!

fruitsalad

my mistake, i shouldn't have even bothered to ask the question,obviously im just a lazy obsese slob! i'm really quite embarassed clearly weight loss is purely black and white, a meer phsycial equation obtained by moving more, eating less and good nutrition.im such a fool, how could i have even considered such a dirty dirty alternative therapy to aid me on my weight loss journey, no doubt the result of a suger induced coma of some discription id eaten myself into. i beg your forgiveness.

anyway guys, would love to chat more but got to dash and tune in my radio for tonights installment of the adrianne kennedy show,i hear its really fantastic, a great avenue for ignorant irish people with chips on their shoulders and the believe that they are an authourity on subjects they clearly no nothing about or dont understand the psyhology of to educate the nation!cant wait! no doubt will chat to you there.

....oh a word to the wise or should i say unwise if like me you have struggled with your weight,self esteem and self image and a friend suggest hypnosis, NLP or any other form of alternitive therapy that envolve boosting your thought process in relation to weightloss in a positive manor..... go for it!!!!!!!!

to the individual who suggested audio books, great advise your clearly the needle in the hay stack.

and the person who came to my defense my greatest thanks i joined boards with the understanding it was positive information sharing site and you have restored my faith in that...will give the reiki and acup a shot.

....everyone else ...get a life!

cardio,shoot me

hmm, people trying to help you and you act like this? i know there where some snappy responses but still, good info here, and fatloss is pretty much as simple as that, less calories, more exercise.

fruitsalad

or not..... :rolleyes:

Magic Eight Ball

fruitsalad wrote: »

clearly weight loss is purely black and white, a meer phsycial equation obtained by moving more, eating less and good nutrition!

It worked for me.. :rolleyes:

metamorphosis

I know that my post comes across very ******* and well when i wrote it i kinda meant it.

That is because i slogged hard and made sacrifices and loosing 5 stone changed me as a person, gave me confidence to believe in myself and made me believe that i am just as good a person as everyone else. I thought i was a horrible person and always thought others thought they were better than me and i thought it too myself.

And then when i see a post like this it does strike a nerve because of the hard work i went through and then somebody to say hey can i lose weight through hypnosis.

I might have jumped a gun a bit there and i apologize because looking back to when i was 15 and a half stone i would have asked the exact same thing.

So i do apologize for sounding like a **** but i stick by my post.

AngelinaJolie

In your support OP - I tried Paul McKenna weight loss DVD and it did work. I kinda tried with a 'it can't do any harm to try' attitude. Prior to that I had been slogging out in the gym and going to exercise classes, almost every day of the week, as well as watching what I ate and the weight was not coming off (well.. I lost three pounds). So about a month and half into my fitness/healthy eating regime, I watched the DVD on my laptop before going to bed. Within a month I had lost a stone and a half and it wasn't even hard. I was eating very healthily (fish and veg for dinner, no sweets etc) but I had a blow out every weekend (drink and a MacFresh burger, which is sadly no longer with us) and next thing I know, my friends were agog at how skinny I had become. That was four years ago, and while I have put on about half a stone, just because I have been a bit lax with eating/exercise. My point is that hypnosis does set off a trigger in your brain to do the things to help you loose weight, at least that's what I believe. But, of course, on a conscious and sub-conscious level you really have to want it, otherwise it won't work.

Good luck

all_smilz

ho, there..... whoa...
ok, fruity, i can see your back is up but i have to say as a noob to the fitness boards everyone here HAS been very helpful and given practical honest advice. It makes me be a bit more honest with myself in turn.

There are a LOT of ppl who want to lose a stone overnight or look like super models or greek god without giving up taytos and wispas (i AM one of them-alas it hasnt worked so far....), there are also the people who think a pill or potion or Lotion is going to make them into aforementioned models/gods and are steered gently but honestly down a safer and more ultimately satisfying road of healthy eating and exercise.

I would have felt a bit the same about some of the replies being harsh and overly simplified about cals in vs cals out BUT when i get on the scales in my knickers on a monday morning I know that very simple truth.
Despite all the battles i have with myself to say NO or pick myself up when i eat something junkyish if i havent eaten well and exercised i am gonna cry and berate myself for being so weak/greedy/needy/pathetic/fat/useless....

All i can say is take a deep breath and read the stickies, involve some family or friends, hell even pm some of us boardsies but dont stay SO angry, use that energy to get urself going! God if I had only two stone left to lose i'd be dancing a jig in the nip on the bar of my local... and definitely dont cut ur ties on the fitness forum cos theres a WEALTH of information.....

d'Oracle

fruitsalad wrote: »

my mistake, i shouldn't have even bothered to ask the question,obviously im just a lazy obsese slob! i'm really quite embarassed clearly weight loss is purely black and white, a meer phsycial equation obtained by moving more, eating less and good nutrition.im such a fool, how could i have even considered such a dirty dirty alternative therapy to aid me on my weight loss journey, no doubt the result of a suger induced coma of some discription id eaten myself into. i beg your forgiveness.

Seriously, you shouldn't.
This is not an alternative therapy forum.
Its not even a bash alternative therapy forum.

Its about fitness.
Hypnosis does not exercise your muscles, it will not directly affect your food.

At the risk of sounding like a back-seat-mod, hypnosis is not a fitness issue.
People use self-esteem and weight issues as a motivator to get heathy fit and strong. Some people here may have had these issues and worked on them without the need for hypnosis.

Frankly, you look like you haven't taken the time to look around the threads and seen the encouragement and advice that people get for doing it right, without mind control.

itsallaboutheL

Neither is it an alternative therapy...therapy has connotations of illness and disease... YOU ARE NOT SICK

d'Oracle

Did someone say Therapy?

kevpants

Be very very very careful with Reiki. I can tell you some stories about that stuff. I don't say I understand it but it's not all happy thoughts and squidgy love cuddles.

Some dark sh1t goes on there.

itsallaboutheL

kevpants wrote: »

Be very very very careful with Reiki. I can tell you some stories about that stuff. I don't say I understand it but it's not all happy thoughts and squidgy love cuddles.

Some dark sh1t goes on there.

is that the energy manipulation thing??
manipulating magnetic fields or some such isn't it??

fruitsalad

'just wondering has anyone any experience of using hypnosis to aid weight lost?'



clearly somewhere along the way things have gone really really wrong here?

i would like to thank all for their positive advise, all which i have taken on board. my back has, i think understandably been raised by some points which where brought up and 'frankly' the misinterpretation of my question (that frankly's esp. for you d'orcle darling).

first, my question was 'had anyone any experience of it?' im a firm believer in not knocking something till you have tried it,(lets be honest there was a lot of knocking by people who hadnt tried it ) and second most importantly it was asked in relation to an 'aid to weight loss' not a quick fix, a mircle,a cure or answer to my prayers just a simple 'aid' to help me on my road to been 2stone lighter a road full of blood sweat and hopefully not to many tears. also my aim is not only to look better but to be a healthier, happier me,stronger and more able to deal with the all aspects of my life from parenting to work and all else that falls in between.

ulstudent, i take my hat off to your weight loss and even more so to your second post i really appreciate the gesture and i hope the above explains a little better where im coming from.

d'orcle, as for my forum choice, i believe fitness is what it is to an individual, and that looking after ones mental health is the key to any sucessful outcome in relation to life and inturn physical fitness. if hypnosis helps me to think of my weight loss goals in a more achieveable light and in turn benefit my physical fitness then is it not part of my fitness programme? (retorical .... i dont want to start up another heated debate... one is enough for any girl on a thursday night hehehe)

so tell you what ill keep walking (actually started running recently not a pretty sight) and if i try the hypnosis and it helps...yipee! and if not, well not. and next time you see a sweaty beetroot faced colour girl carrying and extra couple of stone running through the streets of dublin think of me!

oh and will check out stickies,thanks


p.s i never said i was sick itsallaboutthel ...well sick of been fat maybe

amacachi

So basically "thanks for the advice that suited me and screw the rest of you"? Give it a go if you want, the stickies are there for what you have to do.

Kev M

I hear Tony Quinn is savage




Hypnosis could be worthwhile, it all depends on the person I guess. If you've TRULY tried to lose weight via diet and exercise but to no avail, it could be worth a shot. I'd be very wary, but GOOD LUCK

itsallaboutheL

Kev M wrote: »

I hear Tony Quinn is savage




Hypnosis could be worthwhile, it all depends on the person I guess. If you've TRULY tried to lose weight via diet and exercise but to no avail, it could be worth a shot. I'd be very wary, but GOOD LUCK

If you TRUELY try then you'll succeed.... also speaking of mental wellbeing, if it was a concern then the last thing i'd be doing is letting someone feck around with my sub-concious

fruitsalad

actually, no not screw anbody just thanks for advise .

ntlbell

fruit tbh you are the only person who knows if hypnosis will work.

I personally think hypnosis is hogwash so I know it wouldn't work for me.

if you're someone who is not very strong willed is very open to the "power" of suggestion etc it might "help" you

the vast majority of people (excluding myself) have an awful lot of experience in fitness/diet and nutrition and offer this advice here at no cost at all to you.

my advice would be as has been said all ready take a look at some of the stickies here and in the nutrition forum there's some great advice and some very motivational posts.

If you're out walking/running and eating well I'd give the hocus pocus a miss and continue to put your effort into doing what your currently doing maybe start a log here post your diet and have daily input into your fitness schedule again completely FREE to you

fruitsalad

no mental health concerns my end but a believe that its as important as physical and a powerful tool in the road to achieving goals but i also take your general concerns on board.thanks

Kev M

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

If you TRUELY try then you'll succeed....

I would tend to agree with you on this, but I'm trying to keep an open mind for a change. Some people just CAN'T follow diets/exercise programs properly, this is where something like hypnosis MIGHT be helpful.

ntlbell

Kev M wrote: »

I would tend to agree with you on this, but I'm trying to keep an open mind for a change. Some people just CAN'T follow diets/exercise programs properly, this is where something like hypnosis MIGHT be helpful.

would it not be more beneficial to pay someone who is an expert in getting people to follow diets/exercise programs properly instead of someone who knows nothing about fitness to try and magically hypnotise you into doing the above?

just a shot in the dark like.

fruitsalad

thanks ntlbell ,i do appreciate all advise and will continue to listen and learn i just honestly felt a little bit bashed.

Kev M

ntlbell wrote: »

would it not be more beneficial to pay someone who is an expert in getting people to follow diets/exercise programs properly instead of someone who knows nothing about fitness to try and magically hypnotise you into doing the above?

just a shot in the dark like.

Yes, it would, but I presume this has already been done.

fruitsalad

hey kev m
yeah have tried this recently finally worked up the courage and had really a bad experience on my third session with an expert who disclosed a lot of very very improper personal information during a session, dont ask! honestly im not fit and trainers are scary scary people ...well to me, my weight is my demon and feel very exposed when talkin about it online, face to face nearly gave me a heart attack.

actually think ill take ntlb advice and blog it ...now to work out where fitness or diet (which i cant find) new to boards and still chasing my tail,wish me luck!

ntlbell

fruitsalad wrote: »

hey kev m
yeah have tried this recently finally worked up the courage and had really a bad experience on my third session with an expert who disclosed a lot of very very improper personal information during a session, dont ask! honestly im not fit and trainers are scary scary people ...well to me, my weight is my demon and feel very exposed when talkin about it online, face to face nearly gave me a heart attack.

actually think ill take ntlb advice and blog it ...now to work out where fitness or diet (which i cant find) new to boards and still chasing my tail,wish me luck!

my guess is trying to find the right personal trainer that suits you would be along the same lines as trying to find someone who can hypnotise you.

there is a lot of good and a lot of bad.

I wouldn't give up because you had one bad experience.

you could also ask here for recommendations, in fact there's a few of them that post here who i'm sure would be delighted to help you and have known good reputations

it's a bit like bringing your car to a Chinese doctor for some herbs because your last mechanic blew your gearbox.

all_smilz

can i just please point out that i did not do reiki and acupuncture for weight loss? i did it for allergies, insomnia, anxiety/major episode depression (combined with counselling) and found it brilliant but thats just MY experience...
I understand it can be done for weight loss and my bf who is an acupuncturist/complementary therapist person said it is meant to be VERY effective... but thats ur avenue.

Maybe if you feel like u are struggling with your self esteem and any other issues you should consider some counselling? as really any other pill/potion or umming and ahhing magic is only going to be a band aid (and an ineffective one at that) over what i know in myself was an ugly infested gaping wound! pardon the hyperbolic metaphors....

Transform

being a little bashed is exactly where you WANT to be!!!!

Yes the ones who post here regualrly will hammer you about what your to do but what did you expect? These are people who either a) have done it all themselves or work in the fitness industry and know what it takes and what works.

So yes please get pissed of and stir up the emotions to make changes and stay on track because its only when your sick and tired of being fat and over weight that the change stays permanently.

No decent/big change you or i or anyone have made has EVER come about through being tentative and looking for any other solution than the head on, grab the bulls by the horns, knuckle down and be honest method

floggg

OP, i am in a similar position to ULStudent in that i am in the process of going from 5 stone overweight to getting in shape. Not there yet, but i know that i will soon get the body i want because i know what it takes to get it and am willing to commit myself to it.

To echo the comments of some, if you feel that you haven't the motivation to stick to the fat loss program at the moment, then TBH, chances are you don't actually want it. At least not as much as you think.

I have been fat for most of my life, and for years i thought i was doing my best to lose fat, and was trying to eat healthy, yet never seemed to be able to stick it, and even when i did, i never lost weight. I used to think there was something wrong with me, and i looked aat what i did compared to others and thought it wasn't fair because i worked hard and got no where.

But then one day, after many false starts, something clicked. I decided enough was enough and i would do whatever it took to drop the weight. For once, i actually truly wanted it, and was willing to commit whatever it took. I decided to educate myself on diet, health, nutrition and exercise. I didn't just do what i thought was healthy or i saw on tv, i made sure i found out what was best for me and went for it.

It was only when i realised how easy it was to actually lose weight when i tried that i realised that up to that point i hadn't actually been committing myself right. I hadn't been willing to embarass myself going for a run or to the gym, and that i would rather tell myself how unlucky i was while tucking into a mars bar than put myself out there and do something about it.

That said, i also soon realised that i wasn't embarassing myself - nobody actually cared that i was overweight and exercising, if anything they were more impressed that i was doing something about it.

So OP, if you truly want to lose fat, you need to ask yourself, are you willing to do whatever it takes to drop your body fat levels. If the answer is yes, then start a new thread and we can give you help on diet and exercise. We are quiet helpful. If the answer is no, then you can try all the alternative diets/treatments you want, but unless you really want it, anything you try will be only a temporary fix.

E.g. AngelinaJolie was the only one who came on here and said it worked. No offence to her, but she then said that she subsequently put back on 3.5 stone. I don't view that as anything more than a temporary fix. I know that because i have lost the weight the right way, by making a life style change rather than a temporary solution to a permanent problem, i will not put it back on (at least until i am in my 50's!).

In short, i think you would be far better of giving your money to somebody like transform over paul mckenna. I know he is coming across as a hard ass here, but that's the cruel to be kind vibe - once you are willing to put in the effort most Personal Trainers will be completely understanding.

And as far your bad experience, would you let one jerk/nut case doctor but you off seeking medical attention for the rest of your life?

crotalus667

Kev M wrote: »

Hypnosis could be worthwhile, it all depends on the person I guess. If you've TRULY tried to lose weight via diet and exercise but to no avail, it could be worth a shot. I'd be very wary, but GOOD LUCK

It really does depend on the hypnotist general rule of thump if they seem like a new age hippie type don’t touch them with a barge pole. Hypnosis can help a lot with aiding weight loss depending on he competence of the hypnotist it all about making certain actions feel good and others feel bad or like some thing you find repulsive/ just some thing you don’t want to do



Ps I am a qualified hypnotherapist

slemons

First off - hypnosis works.
Absolutely no doubt about it.
A skilled therapist will 100% definitely change their client
To what extent and for how long depends on the level of skill.

The thing about hypnosis is that its so common these days that you have these cookie cutter tape programs that are supposed to work for all and sundry. For the most part Ive found that these dont work.

What you're doing essentially is building up posistive thoughts on a base of negativity. Thats not going to work. You're suppressing desires and feelings about yourself your diet and cravings for food that have been with people for a long time.

In my view, that is bad for peoples health.
Suppressing any emotion is very stressful for people.

A better approach is to tackle the root problem of negativity first.
There's a few ways of doing this that im aware of: Byron Katies 'The Work' or my own favoruite 'The Sedona Method'

Again these are being touted as panacea's. Personally i buy into Sedona in a big way, but only cause its so simple. And cause since ive started using it, *things* have happened for me...

Look into it if you;re interested in it.
And good luck!
J

ntlbell

crotalus667 wrote: »

It really does depend on the hypnotist general rule of thump if they seem like a new age hippie type don’t touch them with a barge pole. Hypnosis can help a lot with aiding weight loss depending on he competence of the hypnotist it all about making certain actions feel good and others feel bad or like some thing you find repulsive/ just some thing you don’t want to do



Ps I am a qualified hypnotherapist

for you to say otherwise would be like an EA saying now is a bad time to buy a house tho right?

itsallaboutheL

ntlbell wrote: »

for you to say otherwise would be like an EA saying now is a bad time to buy a house tho right?

he's also a gym instructor

ntlbell

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

he's also a gym instructor

Irrelevant

itsallaboutheL

ntlbell wrote: »

Irrelevant

well then its also irrelevant that he's a hynotherapist

ntlbell

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

well then its also irrelevant that he's a hynotherapist

"well then" that's me told and i'll go off with my tail between my legs.

d'Oracle

It really is irrelevant whether you have a tail or not.

ntlbell

d'Oracle wrote: »

It really is irrelevant whether you have a tail or not.

When someone spends time to become "qualified" in _anything_ it's rare that person takes an objective view on the subject matter and when they get paid for practicing that qualification then I'm a more reluctant to pass off it of as VI spin.

So the fact the person is also a gym instructor is irrelevant in this case the fact they're a VI in hypnotherapy IS relevant to the statement they're making regarding hypnotherapy

watches the long fall.

Transform

ntlbell wrote: »

When someone spends time to become "qualified" in _anything_ it's rare that person takes an objective view on the subject matter and when they get paid for practicing that qualification then I'm a more reluctant to pass off it of as VI spin.

So the fact the person is also a gym instructor is irrelevant in this case the fact they're a VI in hypnotherapy IS relevant to the statement they're making regarding hypnotherapy

watches the long fall.

think your digging a hole there now!
Better bail

d'Oracle

ntlbell wrote: »

When someone spends time to become "qualified" in _anything_ it's rare that person takes an objective view on the subject matter and when they get paid for practicing that qualification then I'm a more reluctant to pass off it of as VI spin.

So the fact the person is also a gym instructor is irrelevant in this case the fact they're a VI in hypnotherapy IS relevant to the statement they're making regarding hypnotherapy

watches the long fall.

Thats relates to your tail how?

floggg

ntlbell wrote: »

Irrelevant

TBH, and no offense, but the fact that he is both would make me less eager to follow advice on either. Not being a prick, its just combine them, and they just seem like you are collecting letters.

Anyways, personally i think its all a load of poppy cock! Sorry, i know the mind is powerful, but if i am not strong enough to wield it myself then i'm clearly not strong enough to survive other people playing in there!

itsallaboutheL

ntlbell wrote: »

When someone spends time to become "qualified" in _anything_ it's rare that person takes an objective view on the subject matter and when they get paid for practicing that qualification then I'm a more reluctant to pass off it of as VI spin.

So the fact the person is also a gym instructor is irrelevant in this case the fact they're a VI in hypnotherapy IS relevant to the statement they're making regarding hypnotherapy

watches the long fall.

Are you feeling ok!! he's ideally suited to be objective about it!!

floggg

I think what ntlbell is trying to get at is would you seriously put much faith in a qualified solicitor telling you how great and effective the legal system is, or a beautician telling you how much better a back, sac and crack wax is.

If someobdy has something to gain financially from you following a particular course of action, then be wary if he advices you to do so.

E.g. when i am next considering which television package to go with, there is one person on this thread i won't be asking for advice....

all_smilz

i guess its like being a hairdresser and a wig fitter.... if you cant work your magic with job A then job B is a handy back up plan....