Enough is enough

DubMedic

Do you believe it's time to introduce even more tougher measures to deal with the type of criminal scumbag in this country that roam our streets under the influence of illegal substances and prey on innocent people to fund their habits?.

Personally, I believe one huge super prison should be built just off the coast and these lowlife, criminal scumbags ( face it it's what they are ) , should be rounded up and put in there, along with the crime bosses.

That way , we would have less of a drain on our society's social welfare budget, they would be out of harm's way , and our hospitals would be free for people who actually have health problems, not cuts and bruises from being in scuffles over a drug deal that went sour.

It would cost less in the long-term to put all these people in there and I could pretty much guarantee that the crime rate would drop. That out of the way we could then clean up our streets and tackle the issue of drink driving and road deaths. The roads would be better, prostitution could then be tackled.. smuggling, firearms offenses and a better standard of life would then ensue.

Homelessness could be tackled also, the true homelessness , people who have actually lost their homes for reasons beyond their control.

We could then open universities for the children that actually want to go somewhere in life, educate them into providing an efficient and effective health service, and contribute to helping ill/disabled people's lives become better.

Getting rid of the drains on society is the only way to go, not taxing the people who actually work for their money, the people who are actually out there working for a better Ireland, for a society that their kids can grow up healthy & safe in , achieve an education , and be happy.

/end rant. Anyone agree?.

Mods, feel free to move/edit as appropriate.

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Shield

Moved from ES with redirect.

TheZohanS

psni wrote: »

Moved from ES with redirect.

The irony in the police not wanting to deal with it.

Carsinian Thau

DubMedic wrote: »

Anyone agree?

Of course a lot of people are going to agree.

But what you want is a perfect world. Expect disappointment.

MonkeyBalls

I recommend gathering them all and putting them in a massive UFC style cage, and letting them beat the **** out of each other for hours, while we televise it on Bravo or Setanta Ireland, then when there's only one man standing, a sniper shoots the mother****er in the head.

Shield

TheZohan wrote: »

The irony in the police not wanting to deal with it.

That actually made me laugh out loud, and I really really needed it.

Thanks.

herya

DubMedic wrote: »

Personally, I believe one huge super prison should be built just off the coast and these lowlife, criminal scumbags ( face it it's what they are ) , should be rounded up and put in there, along with the crime bosses.

You could just as well call it Scumbag College and start giving them diplomas. Their networking potential would be insane.

Not that I don't agree with you.

Acacia

Yeah, that would be great in an ideal world. But it's not really feasible. That said, the sentences criminals get here are a joke (like that woman who got raped and had to travel back on the same train from the court case as her attacker.) :mad:

Tricity Bendix

And can we also get rid of all the Mexicans?

Seriously, what you're calling for is facist-style detention centres.

jumpguy

Isn't there loads of threads on this these days?


First, they should nab all outside chippers with hoodies and hoods up in good weather lookin' hard. Then a slow filtering process, and putting the accidentally captured people into circulation and the scumbags onto this remote super-prison you speak of far off the Irish coast.

Second, at this super prison there will be no hoodies. Clothes will be given every day. The merits of being a reasonably friendly and sociable person will be shown and forced to being obeyed.

Thirdly, get them all into a training programme and seeing who should go where. They're bound to have some use.

Then, if proven they're no longer scumbags, they'll be put into normal society once again.




BUT we can't with this stupid democracy and human rights shít. :mad:

Dr_Phil

DubMedic wrote: »

Personally, I believe one huge super prison should be built just off the coast and these lowlife, criminal scumbags ( face it it's what they are ) , should be rounded up and put in there, along with the crime bosses.

Do you think that repeating the Australian experiment would still work these days? Worth considering for more jobs and peaceful life for our kids...

Jeanious

Tricity Bendix wrote: »

And can we also get rid of all the Mexicans?

Seriously, what you're calling for is facist-style detention centres.

And?

DubMedic

jumpguy wrote: »

Isn't there loads of threads on this these days?


First, they should nab all outside chippers with hoodies and hoods up in good weather lookin' hard. Then a slow filtering process, and putting the accidentally captured people into circulation and the scumbags onto this remote super-prison you speak of far off the Irish coast.

Second, at this super prison there will be no hoodies. Clothes will be given every day. The merits of being a reasonably friendly and sociable person will be shown and forced to being obeyed.

Thirdly, get them all into a training programme and seeing who should go where. They're bound to have some use.

Then, if proven they're no longer scumbags, they'll be put into normal society once again.




BUT we can't with this stupid democracy and human rights shít. :mad:

No, there will be no release whatsoever.Release means they have the means to pro-create. No chance of release means the end of the scumbag gene pool. Therefore, end of problem.
They will also be sterilized, that way they cannot even have fun while they rot away. Then , videos will be shown in the prison kitchen of how society is getting on without them i.e. better lives, better health-care system and the state school system actually working.

/end rant*

*for now

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Mr. CooL ICE

OP, don't you think that junkies robbing and stealing to fund their habits contributes to only a very small percentage of overall crime cases?

If you want to make a big impact, tackle mindless antisocial behaviour first

Dusty87

OP, there is a super prison off the coast. Its called spike island and for some reason its shut down. Was this thread not up a few weeks ago?

Zebra3

Mandatory two week jail sentences for anyone caught in posession.

Give all those middle-class cokeheads who fund murdering drug dealing vermin something to think about.

thelordofcheese

DubMedic wrote: »

No, there will be no release whatsoever.Release means they have the means to pro-create. No chance of release means the end of the scumbag gene pool. Therefore, end of problem.
They will also be sterilized, that way they cannot even have fun while they rot away. Then , videos will be shown in the prison kitchen of how society is getting on without them i.e. better lives, better health-care system and the state school system actually working.

/end rant*

*for now

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Hey, a stupid super-prision idea and eugenics!

All we need now some other kind of equally fucking moronic idea and we have the trifecta. And all by 9.30am on a monday morning.

Rock on AH, rock on.....

gurramok

LordChessington wrote: »

OP, don't you think that junkies robbing and stealing to fund their habits contributes to only a very small percentage of overall crime cases?

If you want to make a big impact, tackle mindless antisocial behaviour first

Its been reported in the media countless times over the years that 80% of all crime is drug-related.

Hagar

jumpguy wrote: »

putting the accidentally captured people into circulation and the scumbags onto this remote super-prison you speak of far off the Irish coast.

Maybe we are already an island prison of the coast of Europe and we just don't realise it.

Nodin

Hagar wrote: »

Maybe we are already an island prison of the coast of Europe and we just don't realise it.

Maybe its a Prison Planet at the arse end of the Galaxy.....

wudangclan

DubMedic wrote: »

No, there will be no release whatsoever.Release means they have the means to pro-create. No chance of release means the end of the scumbag gene pool. Therefore, end of problem.
They will also be sterilized, that way they cannot even have fun while they rot away. Then , videos will be shown in the prison kitchen of how society is getting on without them i.e. better lives, better health-care system and the state school system actually working.

/end rant*

*for now

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DubMedic? your name's not mengele by any chance,is it?

General Zod

Nodin wrote: »

Maybe its a Prison Planet at the arse end of the Galaxy.....

Hail Xenu!

I'm listening

Dusty87 wrote: »

OP, there is a super prison off the coast. Its called spike island and for some reason its shut down. Was this thread not up a few weeks ago?

I wouldn't call Cobh being off the coast. It's far from a super prison also.

--Kaiser--

Maybe if we put them in these camps they could concentrate better

SoWatchaWant

DubMedic wrote: »

No, there will be no release whatsoever.Release means they have the means to pro-create. No chance of release means the end of the scumbag gene pool. Therefore, end of problem.
They will also be sterilized, that way they cannot even have fun while they rot away. Then , videos will be shown in the prison kitchen of how society is getting on without them i.e. better lives, better health-care system and the state school system actually working.

/end rant*

*for now

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I'm not one to call people Nazis liberally, but for ****'s sake, you're like a mini hitler.

SoWatchaWant

Also, I've had it with these mother ****ing snakes on this mother ****ing plane.

mike65

Death squads much cheaper, loads of unemployed fellas with itchy trigger fingers around these days...

consultech

DubMedic wrote: »

Do you believe it's time to introduce even more tougher measures to deal with the type of criminal scumbag in this country that roam our streets under the influence of illegal substances and prey on innocent people to fund their habits?.

Personally, I believe one huge super prison should be built just off the coast and these lowlife, criminal scumbags ( face it it's what they are ) , should be rounded up and put in there, along with the crime bosses.

That way , we would have less of a drain on our society's social welfare budget, they would be out of harm's way , and our hospitals would be free for people who actually have health problems, not cuts and bruises from being in scuffles over a drug deal that went sour.

It would cost less in the long-term to put all these people in there and I could pretty much guarantee that the crime rate would drop. That out of the way we could then clean up our streets and tackle the issue of drink driving and road deaths. The roads would be better, prostitution could then be tackled.. smuggling, firearms offenses and a better standard of life would then ensue.

Homelessness could be tackled also, the true homelessness , people who have actually lost their homes for reasons beyond their control.

We could then open universities for the children that actually want to go somewhere in life, educate them into providing an efficient and effective health service, and contribute to helping ill/disabled people's lives become better.

Getting rid of the drains on society is the only way to go, not taxing the people who actually work for their money, the people who are actually out there working for a better Ireland, for a society that their kids can grow up healthy & safe in , achieve an education , and be happy.

/end rant. Anyone agree?.

Mods, feel free to move/edit as appropriate.

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We have introduced tougher measures...? He's called TheCitizen.

thelordofcheese

consultech wrote: »

We have introduced tougher measures...? He's called TheCitizen.

They say when you dream of theCitizen, he dreams of punching you.

Acacia

What's with all the pseudo- fascists on AH?

HalloweenJack

Acacia wrote: »

What's with all the pseudo- fascists on AH?

They're too afraid to live in thr real world.

Trinity

No harm dreaming of a better/safer world for our children, i think worse than thinking of sterilizing them is thinking that we have to accept this and be at the mercy of these pricks.

So many times i would love a fcuking gun

They are waste of space, they have no place in society. Its been said before you need a licence for a dog, yet any scumbag can have kids and so the cycle continues, they are a breed of their own.

I think i can safely assume the OP has first hand experience of the devastation these fcukers cause day after day?

I have a few friends in the gardai and have seen them work tirelessly on cases to get them put away they put in the hours and sweat and tears and some fcuking judge or technicality lets them walk

Must be so disheartening.

Red Sleeping Beauty

What is a traveller anyway and how can you distinguish "them" from other people ?

Dragan

DubMedic wrote: »

Do you believe it's time to introduce even more tougher measures to deal with the type of criminal scumbag in this country that roam our streets under the influence of illegal substances and prey on innocent people to fund their habits?.

Personally, I believe one huge super prison should be built just off the coast and these lowlife, criminal scumbags ( face it it's what they are ) , should be rounded up and put in there, along with the crime bosses.

That way , we would have less of a drain on our society's social welfare budget, they would be out of harm's way , and our hospitals would be free for people who actually have health problems, not cuts and bruises from being in scuffles over a drug deal that went sour.

It would cost less in the long-term to put all these people in there and I could pretty much guarantee that the crime rate would drop. That out of the way we could then clean up our streets and tackle the issue of drink driving and road deaths. The roads would be better, prostitution could then be tackled.. smuggling, firearms offenses and a better standard of life would then ensue.

Homelessness could be tackled also, the true homelessness , people who have actually lost their homes for reasons beyond their control.

We could then open universities for the children that actually want to go somewhere in life, educate them into providing an efficient and effective health service, and contribute to helping ill/disabled people's lives become better.

Getting rid of the drains on society is the only way to go, not taxing the people who actually work for their money, the people who are actually out there working for a better Ireland, for a society that their kids can grow up healthy & safe in , achieve an education , and be happy.

/end rant. Anyone agree?.

Mods, feel free to move/edit as appropriate.

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Ah, the echos of Nuremberg.

thelordofcheese

Trinity wrote: »

Its been said before you need a licence for a dog, yet any scumbag can have kids and so the cycle continues, they are a breed of their own.

Every time i hear that i really wish the person saying it would stop and think about how fucking stupid a sentiment it is.

Trinity

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Every time i hear that i really wish the person saying it would stop and think about how fucking stupid a sentiment it is.

How is it stupid?


Its easier for a dog warden to come in and take my dog off me if he thinks i am ill treating him than for a social worker to take my kids off me and get them to safety if i am battering them and neglecting them, and thats a sad fact of life.

thelordofcheese

Trinity wrote: »

How is it stupid?


Its easier for a dog warden to come in and take my dog if he thinks i am ill treating him than for a social worker to take my kids off me and get them to safety if i am battering them and neglecting them.

You're basically saying the state should decided who should and shouldn't have children, this is such a horrible idea i don't even know where to begin.
The right to have children is a basic human one and should never be denied.

And don't for one second believe that you'd fair any better on a parenthood test than 'scum'. How to raise a child is one of the most debated and murky of issues. Don't be so blindly arrogant to assume you would, will or are doing a better job or even a good one.

dvpower

Trinity wrote: »

I have a few friends in the gardai and have seen them work tirelessly on cases to get them put away they put in the hours and sweat and tears and some fcuking judge or technicality lets them walk

Your friends should work more diligently and less tirelessly.

pipsqueak

I think a a liittle toe rag smirking coming out of court with another suspended sentence should have his free legal aid directly linked to his dole money.
If these serial career criminals keep getting free legal aid without consequence they will carry on regardless!

take 50 quid from his dole moneyevery time he goes on a mad one and see his court appearances dwindle;)

Mr Benevolent

It's much more expensive to send and keep a scumbag in prison than it is to keep them on the dole.

pipsqueak

Confab wrote: »

It's much more expensive to send and keep a scumbag in prison than it is to keep them on the dole.

sure is, if they are kept out of prison it would be better for all concerned

Trinity

thelordofcheese wrote: »

You're basically saying the state should decided who should and shouldn't have children, this is such a horrible idea i don't even know where to begin.
The right to have children is a basic human one and should never be denied.

And don't for one second believe that you'd fair any better on a parenthood test than 'scum'. How to raise a child is one of the most debated and murky of issues. Don't be so blindly arrogant to assume you would, will or are doing a better job or even a good one.

The licence thing was just an expressionn ffs, course if there was more justice in the world the authorities would have the power to take the children in danger away from them.

My reply was so long i got logged off so i am not re-typing it so i will shorten it a bit to say even for after hours you are bang out of order comparing my parenting skills to that of a scum bag that walks the streets terrorising people, robbing them, stabbing them etc. Cant leave your car parked, cant walk home cos they would batter you quicker than look at you to take your mobile phone

Cos thats the type of scum i am talking about. I dont regard people with an addiction as scum, i lost my childhood friend to drugs and she was a good mother, harmed no-one but her self

But i am talking about real scum that neglect their children. Its the basic rights of children to be loved, be fed, clothed and be kept safe and secure. I am far from perfect, miles in fact but my kids at least get that much. So in regards to faring better than the scum on the test i am already miles ahead.

If the scum are doing that fair dues to them, but i am referring to the ones wheeling the kids around in the pram while out of their faces, dipping peoples purses (happened to me in fact), hiding their drugs in buggies, and murky and debatable as parenting is, do you really mean to tell me that this is in any way shape or form good parenting??

seriously i've grown up in an area over run with scum, and it gets worse with every generation,so dont put me in the same category as them as a mother

my kids are here with me now warm fed clothed and loved, anything after that is up to the individual. But i try to at least teach them the difference between right and wrong and hurting people is wrong, robbing people is wrong, so hopefully it will stick wit them and there are 2 less scumbags in the world due to my eh bad parenting.

Now I have developed a thick skin on boards over 3 years, can ignore the rape and paedo jokes, take it on the chin when someone knocks my opinion cos its different than someone elses, but what is not up for discussion or debate is MY children or MY parenting. Thats making it personal. Very personal.

TheZohanS

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Every time i hear that i really wish the person saying it would stop and think about how fucking stupid a sentiment it is.

I don't think it's a stupid sentiment at all. In fact it's quite reasonable.

dvpower

TheZohan wrote: »

I don't think it's a stupid sentiment at all. In fact it's quite reasonable.

What's the proposal? That we should introduce a child licence, available to over 16s at the post office for a few euro?

Red Sleeping Beauty

Acacia wrote: »

What's with all the pseudo- fascists on AH?

There's a lot right wing opinions that permeate through this whole website in all guises, whether neo-conservative or neo-liberal or just good aul male white supremacy.

AdamusAdonis

DubMedic wrote: »

Personally, I believe one huge super prison should be built just off the coast and these lowlife, criminal scumbags ( face it it's what they are ) , should be rounded up and put in there, along with the crime bosses.

Let's send them to Australia...

:P nah, we'd all love to see the place cleaned up... but how far to go... hmm.

Terodil

This thread is recursive. The title definitely references the thread itself. =/

I'm just waiting for somebody to go 'yeah and throw the n!ggers in too and the jews as well, while we are at it'.

Have we learnt nothing from history?!

Yes, it must be very disheartening. This thread is.

Trinity

dvpower wrote: »

What's the proposal? That we should introduce a child licence, available to over 16s at the post office for a few euro?

No its that the ****ers do time for their crime in the first instance.


Failing that its that children whose parents are too stoned or busy out beating some 76 yr old and stealing his pension for the next fix, to feed and care for them be monitored closely and if the child is in any danger that the authorities be given more power to remove the children from a dangerous environment.

Not all addicts are scum and thiefs and not all scum are addicts but ffs there are some nasty b*stards out there.

What do you propose - that we turn a blind eye? Ah nothing we can do sure. Let them off, not our problem. Til your grandmother gets mugged and beaten.

Ok the OP was a rant, OTT and this is after hours after all.

Its only when it affects you personally like the OP that people start to give a fcuk, we are nazi's cos we think we should be able to walk our streets in safety :rolleyes:


The cnuts get away with murder, literally.

sagat

I am disgusted by you and your horrible fascist agenda. Instead we should give them free houses, optional free education, allowances for travel, food and entertainment and pay their weekly pocket money. If they need a hit we'll give them free drugs, if they get in trouble a slap on the wrist that'll teach them a lesson. I for one would prefer to live in a world where my daughter can get raped by a man who had served no time after stabbing another man for looking at him funny and then share a train ride home together with his paid for by the state and hers not than live in a world where the less fortunate violent criminals are locked away like.... um, criminals.

Ziggurat

Trinity wrote: »

No its that the ****ers do time for their crime in the first instance.

I don't think anyone is saying criminals should not be imprisoned.

Failing that its that children whose parents are too stoned or busy out beating some 76 yr old and stealing his pension for the next fix, to feed and care for them be monitored closely and if the child is in any danger that the authorities be given more power to remove the children from a dangerous environment.

Not all addicts are scum and thiefs and not all scum are addicts but ffs there are some nasty b*stards out there.

And maybe, just maybe, the law should be able to express nuance to reflect this fact?

What do you propose - that we turn a blind eye? Ah nothing we can do sure. Let them off, not our problem.

Straw man.

Til your grandmother gets mugged and beaten.p.

Appeal to emotion (fear).

Ok the OP was a rant, OTT

No shit.

and this is after hours after all.

So...we're not being serious?

Its only when it affects you personally like the OP that people start to lose the plot, we are nazi's cos we think we people should be locked up at the drop of a hat as well as advocating that other, more insidious, punishments be meted out.

Yeah, I thought I'd just...fix that.

The cnuts get away with murder, literally.

And two wrongs naturally make a right.

Trinity

Fix it all you want i couldnt give a rats arse to be quite honest.

Opinions vary. I grew up in Ballymun,l got my car totalled with no comeback from my insurance, got my handbag dipped, got attacked with a sword, got robbed by guys wearing balaclavas and weilding baseball bats, my downs syndrome brother was attacked and bitten all over, my dads car was covered with acid but hey what harm, none of the ***** ever got caught so i just hope for my childrens sake someone does sterilize the cnts ok!!!!

meh whatever i'm done here, ignorance is bliss eh :rolleyes: