nobody seems into hip hop here

CrankyStudent

the title says it all

very little interest in rap on this board, its heartbreaking

Klim

To be honest, I think hip hop's popularity as a whole is waning. I'm not an expert at all, but personally, i loved the stuff from the mid/late 90's and the first maybe four years of this decade. The stuff nowadays just doesn't excite me. Too commercial, too mainstream, too politically correct. None of my friends who were into it no longer like it

Not saying there's no good hip hop about at the minute, its just kinda became over saturated, tired. Look at Dre's follow up to 2001. How many years has that been on the backburner? You wonder why. Is he bored too?

CrankyStudent

yeah but its about finding the right music, the hip hop that you hear on the radio or tv id flick off in an instant cuz its all ****

im all about meanigful lyrics, even the likes of dre 2001 to me are **** to be honest

im just suprised theres not more interest into underground hip hop

LeotheLion

all the old stuff like NWA,the lost boyz,mobb deep, Dmx and of course snoops early stuff was good,

Rap these days is rubbish same with dance music.

conchubhar1

i listen to hip hop

rarely talk of it - i only browse to see if there is anything worth checking that i might miss otherwise

get sages new sick of waiting album

CrankyStudent

sick of wasting ya mean?

never was huge on sage, a few things impressed me majorly, like "makeshift patriots"

its just his flow and content can almost go to far off the norm to be different that it loses all sense

heres makeshift patriot for anyone who aint heard it, alot of it stems from 9/11 opinions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtNMly0aDUk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtNMly0aDUk

winston82

NAS was right... Hip-hop is dead (for now)

CrankyStudent

nah man, so many unreal emcees out at the moment

joe budden, royce, crooked i, joell ortiz (aka slaughterhouse) = best supergroup going

PS: hip hop aint dead it just emigrated

this is ****ing off the wall , dont sleep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKOrHAUULrI

speedboatchase

I love Hip Hop and Indie but my experiences on both boards here are that the regulars try to constantly one-up each other in terms of credibility and anything with a smidgen of popularity (save genuine legends like Jay-Z/Nas) isn't taking seriously or discussed (the genuine consensus is Kanye is crap, Lil Wayne is crap, Drake is crap, Asher Roth is crap etc etc so why bother). I don't follow hip hop as religiously as a lot of people here so I'm not too up on many of the underground rappers mentioned so I don't post that often. Plus some people post in silly fake thug-speak which is just more amusing than anything

CrankyStudent

well kanye aint crap, hes a musician, more then a rapper

lil wayne is fairly **** in my opinion, i cant comprehend the hype

asher roth i havnt got into yet but the few things ive heard i have liked

as for drake im biding my time before i start listening to him :P dunno why but i keep putting it off

personally i dont have mtv or any them channels, i also never listen radio cuz i dont have a car and i wouldnt sit in my house listening to it, so i dont get to hear the most commericial songs that are floating around

i just follow my own style and taste in rap, which is limited enough to be fair

but it is up with my biggest loves in life, hip hop, football, sessions and women

Nolanger

I love the stuff - bought over 500 rap CDs but it's difficult to buy new ones in Dublin as I don't buy online.

CrankyStudent

i stopepd buying cd's cuz i either lose it, or it gets damaged

downloads are where its at

heres a song i love for yas to have a look at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8tBy92LCGU

rcaz

I'm only getting into hip hop as of recently, but I really don't like all the stuff that's popular and considered to be hip hop. I love Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, DJ Shadow, that kinda stuff is what I consider to be 'proper' hip hop.

Kanye West is a musician? I thought he was more of a businessman...

Napoli

speedboatchase wrote: »

I love Hip Hop and Indie but my experiences on both boards here are that the regulars try to constantly one-up each other in terms of credibility and anything with a smidgen of popularity (save genuine legends like Jay-Z/Nas) isn't taking seriously or discussed (the genuine consensus is Kanye is crap, Lil Wayne is crap, Drake is crap, Asher Roth is crap etc etc so why bother). I don't follow hip hop as religiously as a lot of people here so I'm not too up on many of the underground rappers mentioned so I don't post that often. Plus some people post in silly fake thug-speak which is just more amusing than anything

Agree with this post completely.

Many new posters are probably hesitant to post here for fear of being ripped apart by the regulars. You are crucified for having your own opinion or liking any rapper in the charts. (Ever wonder why these guys are popular, lads? Maybe they're making good music?) Dropping the name of some underground German rapper that nobody has heard of or cares about does not make you cool.

I should add that I'm a long-time lurker here and I laugh when I see the same old phrases and topics regurgitated repeateldy: Tupac was overrated, rap has gone commercial, irish accents in rap etc

mufc4lfe

Ive always been a fan of the aul hippidy-hop-hop!!!

Mikeyt086

Most people who like Hip-Hop dont post their opinions on here, because alot of it is critisism. Threads like "Lil Wayne is ****", as i read that, as a HUGE fan of Lil Wayne i know i shouldnt bother.

I love all types of Hip Hop. I love KRS-1, Nas, Talib Kweli, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne, Young Jeezy, Jay-Z, Cypress Hill, Tupac, Biggie, The Game... everything, if its got a good beat or rythm to it.

Some people are picky in their music tastes, some like Dance, Trance, Showtunes whatever, but with Hip Hop, it seems alot of people have their own sub-divisions in Hip Hop, like i come across alot of people who claim Hip Hop is dead and refuse to accept new artists, but also those who only like the stuff on Spin 1038.

I dont have those sub-divisions, my only rule is if its on Spin, its a no go. lol. Alot of people on here are big into Underground stuff, i cant say that i am, but when i stumble onto one of those long radio sessions of underground stuff ive never heard of, it can be brilliant.

Ill prob get slated for posting this, but it doesnt bother me. My taste in music is for me. It seems people are reluctant to post a new artist for the fact that someone will definately come in and say its crap, commercial or something.

HalloweenJack

I'm a big fan of hip-hop but I won't buy stuff that comes out these days, save for tried and tested artists like OutKast and Nas.

For me, I just haven't found any new artists that I like.

godspal

I know I am one of the biggest [FONT=&quot]perpetrators of name dropping here however I listen to nearly 5 hours of hip-hop daily. I don't lil wayne because lyrically he is just terrible, I don't like Kanye anymore because he sold out, I don't Asher Roth because its just white-preppy bull****, wouldn't listen to it in anyother genre and Drake is just far too overproduce.

And for those who are looking for some underground names:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnD_CXnXEB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUBxS5yxGTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jLRiCyEvi4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHdkmNPNcV8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MabsE2gqeoc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQFZp6hBhE4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NiObiXyaZY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDXi5QmYDxQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-zndpG0eS8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCx8xjHMt_M

ghostface ste

What is the point of this thread!! :mad:

'Rap these days is rubbish same with dance music'

These generalised comments do not lead to any sort or proper discussion at all

Boom_Bap

I'm going to admit to it...i'm one of the posters who will drop names of underground or maybe more obscure rappers/groups out there. The only intention is to spread the word and discuss thier music, they too fall into the genre of hip hop.
I do also wade into alot of the discussions on the more commercial side because this is music that i also listen to, i may not like all the artists that are in the mainstream (see my earlier post on Drake!) but i do listen and make my opinion based on what i think. And i try not to criticise others for what they like, each to thier own. If i have offended anyone then a thousand apologies. I hate the idea that people wont post here because they expect a backlash.
One of the main reasons i come back here time and time again is because of the new artists that are recommended that i havent heard of or ignored. For me there are some gems discovered from other peoples suggestions here. An example of this is the Q-Tip album last year, i wouldnt have shown much interest in this but because the reviews from here where super positive, i went out and discovered that it is a dope album.

CrankyStudent

ghostface ste wrote: »

What is the point of this thread!! :mad:

what ya on about? this is probably the most used "board/forum" as irish ones go

and hip hop discussions seem prety non existent, thats what the point of it is

tryna suss out why theres lack if interest

ghostface ste

CrankyStudent wrote: »

yeah but its about finding the right music, the hip hop that you hear on the radio or tv id flick off in an instant cuz its all ****

im all about meanigful lyrics, even the likes of dre 2001 to me are **** to be honest

im just suprised theres not more interest into underground hip hop

What meaningful lyrics did Dre 2001 have? Anyway thats off topic

Check out the link http://www.chopshop.fm/blogroll/chopshops-best-albums-of-08/

Orizio compiled a damn good round up of the best hip hop from last year so try out a few of those, which has a lot of stuff that isn't mainstream (altho he is still wrong about the No. 1 which should be Elzhi:D)

Also another good thread at the moment with 2009 hip hop which has some good stuff in it. There is a lot of great hip-hop at the moment, you just have to search for it.

Also check out Brother Ali which is someone i have only started listening to recently, god damn its good

CrankyStudent

i said i think dre is ****, so he had no meaningful lyrics :P

as for brother ali, savage, i went to see him and atmosphere play in dublin and it was quality

ghostface ste

CrankyStudent wrote: »

as for brother ali, savage, i went to see him and atmosphere play in dublin and it was quality

WTF!!! When was this? Atmosphere (slug) are savage aswell. Looking forward to Ali's new album which was just finished recently i think

Disco Bandit

saul williams and N.A.S.A. (playin in crawdaddys last night or tonight btw) are the 2 best contempery hiphop ensaumbles around in my oppinion, good luck hearing any of it on tv or the radio though.

http://www.myspace.com/nasa
tom waits, david byrne both on their album great gateway hiphop album for those normally dismissive of hippedyhop


http://www.myspace.com/saulwilliams
produced by reznor from NIN for some gritty sounds

Boom_Bap

New Brother Ali album called "Us" is dropping soonish, it was previously titled "Street Preacher" but recently changed it as it didnt fit the theme of the album.
From what i hear it's done and dusted and artwork and mixing is complete, just waiting on Rhymesayers for an official release date.

Boom_Bap

ghostface ste wrote: »

WTF!!! When was this? Atmosphere (slug) are savage aswell. Looking forward to Ali's new album which was just finished recently i think

they played just over a year ago

Atmosphere are on a European Tour at the moment and not stopping in dublin

POS was on a European Tour and didnt stop in Ireland last month

Ali has a European Tour scheduled for the last quarter of the year, lets just hope he stops in Ireland

EDIT: All are on Rhymesayers....they may not think it's financially viable to stop here

ghostface ste

Boom_Bap wrote: »

they played just over a year ago

Atmosphere are on a European Tour at the moment and not stopping in dublin

POS was on a European Tour and didnt stop in Ireland last month

Ali has a European Tour scheduled for the last quarter of the year, lets just hope he stops in Ireland

EDIT: All are on Rhymesayers....they may not think it's financially viable to stop here

Yeah only saw the atmosphere dates last week on rhymesayers website, would of head to London to see them altho they are still in germany now, how much are flights!!

Might badger Ali on his facebook constantly, i'm sure that will make them come to Dublin!

Boom_Bap

ghostface ste wrote: »

Yeah only saw the atmosphere dates last week on rhymesayers website, would of head to London to see them altho they are still in germany now, how much are flights!!

Might badger Ali on his facebook constantly, i'm sure that will make them come to Dublin!

I was going to go to germany for the POS tour but dates conflicted for me....the atmosphere tour ends tomorrow in Leipzig.

CrankyStudent

me my mate and slug

discostick12

Always been a fan of hip-hop, old school that it. The time of Snopp And Dres 'Nothing But A G Thang' and all that. Not Really into todays version of hip hop!
But there is a load of good Irish Hip hop talent out there and I have first hand accounts on em as my bf is one of them .. Head down to Eamon Dorans Wednesday night and they do have a good Irish hip hop show.

CrankyStudent

disco who is your boyfriend? im one of them too :P

discostick12

CrankyStudent wrote: »

disco who is your boyfriend? im one of them too :P

Hey Crank , He's rap name is L-Demon ( Well It Is For Now) , He does rap with some of the class A's ( Collie, Redzer, terrowrist) He Currently Workin On A Mix Tape Now.

How Long Have U Been Rappin?

marko91

CrankyStudent wrote: »

the title says it all

very little interest in rap on this board, its heartbreaking

i love hip hop...without hip hop id be very sad:D....what artists are yous all into?i mean like new artists...

CrankyStudent

discostick12 wrote: »

Hey Crank , He's rap name is L-Demon ( Well It Is For Now) , He does rap with some of the class A's ( Collie, Redzer, terrowrist) He Currently Workin On A Mix Tape Now.

How Long Have U Been Rappin?

3 or 4 years, i know them lads but never heard of your fella i dont think

any links to his stuff?

CrankyStudent

marko91 wrote: »

i love hip hop...without hip hop id be very sad:D....what artists are yous all into?i mean like new artists...

mainly joe budden, i could listen to him only and be happy, i relate so much to his music its insane, thats prolly why i appreciate it so much, id say if i listen to 20 hours a week music his stuff would be 18 hours of it type thing :eek:

others i listen to these days would be

Joell Ortiz
Crooked I
Royce
Saigon
Ali Vegas
Atmosphere
Brother Ali
Jadakiss
Jedi mind tricks
reef the lost cauze

them aswell as all the usuals

then alot of irish and english rap

discostick12

CrankyStudent wrote: »

3 or 4 years, i know them lads but never heard of your fella i dont think

any links to his stuff?

No He Has **** All Up On The Net, Trying To Get Him To Start A Page But E Wont TIll E Has A Few Tracks Up!

Have U Any Links?

g5fd6ow0hseima

Im not mad into rap, never was.... used to be sickened by all the eminem wigger crowd from a very young age though. I like mainly instrumental stuff.... Madlibs beat konducta series is good, so is the likes of MF Doom and RJD2 (deadringer)

CrankyStudent

discostick12 wrote: »

No He Has **** All Up On The Net, Trying To Get Him To Start A Page But E Wont TIll E Has A Few Tracks Up!

Have U Any Links?

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=351851
or
http://www.bebo.com/butcherboymusic

i havnt had the chance to record my more recent material due to lack of time/patience/or access to a studio

all them songs are between 1 - 3 years old

so i aint happy with alot of it, but what can ya do

spacecoyote

Firstly, I would hardly say that there are no hip-hop fans around. Head to any hip-hop gig in Ireland and its crammed to the rafters, and the atmosphere is usually excellent.

Secondly, I would like to say thank you to the people who post about the underground artists, as without them I would have never picked up albums by the likes of Cunninglynguists or Panacea.

The reality of it is, that the artists who are popular in the charts are more in the public eye so if there are going to be threads started bashing an artist its more likely to be someone like 50 Cent then it is to be Prince Po.

And I don't think forum posting is likely to give an accurate reflection of peoples interest in hip-hop. I don't post here as much as I used to, I mostly come for some tips on artists that might interest me (have to be a bit more selective with my purchases now theres a mortgage to pay )

CrankyStudent

ah im not trying to get any real reflection on anything its just this section is very slow is all, no real daily posters giving news or new music type thing

i suppose if i want that i should go to a rap forum or whatever, but just all other sections seem buzzing and this seems slow is all

ps speaking of cunninlynguists, heres a song i love by them, i could play this on repeat for hours and not wanna change

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhW9p-8kJ64

BLITZ_Molloy

I don't really care about most of the music being posted on here. I can appreciate hip hop of all types. But I'd like to hear something new. All this old school fetishising is a bit boring at this stage. If I see another 2Pac or Biggie related topic I'm going to go into a coma.

There's good new music if people would be arsed looking around for it. There are certain commercial rap tunes I quite like. Deeper Than Rap has been getting alot of spins lately thanks to its delicious pop production.

Makaveli

BLITZ_Molloy wrote: »

All this old school fetishising is a bit boring at this stage.

Amen.

CrankyStudent

wheres the old school fetishing ? i am far from that, i try and spread current artists work around if i feel they are deserving

CrankyStudent

Makaveli wrote: »

Amen.

PS: ironic name for someone to say amen to that :P

horsebox09

discostick12 wrote: »

Hey Crank , He's rap name is L-Demon ( Well It Is For Now) , He does rap with some of the class A's ( Collie, Redzer, terrowrist) He Currently Workin On A Mix Tape Now.

How Long Have U Been Rappin?

L demon-a chap in my class used to rap under that name,i wonder if its the same bloke?!

floggg

I agree that at times there is too much old school fetishing and underground name dropping here.

But in fairness, thats only because the only people who actually bother to post up here are those who like the so-called "golden era" or indie acts. For all those people giving out about the content, don't turn away from the forum in protest, contribute to it. Its a discussion board FFS! I'm not a regular here but i post intermittently, and have no hesitation in saying illmatic is not the best album ever, or that the blueprint was better than reasonable doubt, or even that i think get rich or die tryin' was better than atmosphere's last album!

While personally i am not a lil wayne fan (although some of his stuff is actually good - i am actually listening to tie my hands as a type), if you are a fan, why don't you put your views across on him. He's not my cup of time, but i'm not going to deny that he is very creative.

I don't see the point in people who don't post on a forum giving out about the content of those who do. if you disagree, please please join in - this place would be all the better for some more autotune fans!

CrankyStudent

^^^ what he said

at the end of the day there is no right or wrong, its personal opinions

Nolanger

If I was younger today there would be more interesting music around than modern rap. The bands out now are the best in years, that electro-pop stuff is quite good, and the metal scene is more popular than ever. Why would kids listen to watered-down chart rap and Souljah Boy? When I was a kid we had Public Enemy/NWA/Ice T - that stuff really stood out.

Nolanger

Also, I've been trying to sell these CDs since February and no-one has contacted me yet so not much demand for rap music here anymore :
http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=92997&cat=all

CrankyStudent

if you have spiral in your cd collection you dont deserve to be discussing hip hop :P
but seriously though, nobodys gonna be buying 2nd hand cd's of alot of the martists, p diddy, snoops, t.i

downloads have fvcked up the sales, never mind the 2nd hand sales