modern day parenting

carlybabe1

So here I am at 11.45pm watching tv (well I was), my ten & six yr olds in bed fast asleep since 10.00pm, (in off the road since 9.30pm) when the sounds of screeching and laughter come through my open windows. I know the voices, and they're all between the ages of 6 & 11. Out on the road at 11.45pm, no sign of an adult anywhere. This kind of cr*p really boils my piss, I mean SERIOUSLY,is it just me??? Am I out of touch altogether, or is there something very wrong when we let such young kids wander round this late at night without supervision?
It comes across as the parent/s not giving a f*ck as long as the kids arent indoors annoying them and disrupting the tv shows.
Am I just an outdated dinosaur, or do you think I have a point?

pablomakaveli

Won't be long until there stealing cars, getting pregnant and being taken away in the paddywagons.

God how time flies.

ScumLord

carlybabe1 wrote: »

really boils my piss, I mean SERIOUSLY,is it just me???

Jesus I hope so I'd hate to think something like that was contagious.

Tchaikovsky

Is it a Roma family?

My mother had an experience with their parenting techniques in the hospital last night

Maddison

This is something I rant to my partner about regularly...I finish work at 11pm & the amount of tiny kids out sickens me some of them cant be more than 4....:mad:

SarahMc

Thats not peculiar to modern times though. There has always been neglected children sadly.

Dudess

carlybabe1 wrote: »

I mean SERIOUSLY,is it just me??? Am I out of touch altogether... Am I just an outdated dinosaur?

Yep, it's just you. You're an out-of-touch, out-dated dinosaur. What you're talking about is clearly excellent parenting.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Dudess wrote: »

Yep, it's just you. You're an out-of-touch, out-dated dinosaur. What you're talking about is clearly excellent parenting.

Dinosaurs are extinct Dudess. Your whole post is now suspect.

Tchaikovsky

"....because, as the old saying goes 'Let your children run wild and free'."

sdanseo

When I was younger (9-13) we were always out on the road until 10 or 11 at this time of year, until the brightness faded completely, and we were for the most part well brought up, not neglected.

Nothing wrong with it during the summer with no school etc, only other thing to do is run riot inside the house instead, not really fair to shove kids to bed at 10pm during the summer, again I was always allowed up till 11, as I got older into 12-13 maybe 12-1am with no school.

I'm practically nocturnal now though, so maybe t'wasnt the best of ideas :pac:

4zn76tysfajdxp

carlybabe1 wrote: »

This kind of cr*p really boils my piss,

I thought toilet threads were banned?

Snowie

carlybabe1 wrote: »

So here I am at 11.45pm watching tv (well I was), my ten & six yr olds in bed fast asleep since 10.00pm, (in off the road since 9.30pm) when the sounds of screeching and laughter come through my open windows. I know the voices, and they're all between the ages of 6 & 11. Out on the road at 11.45pm, no sign of an adult anywhere. This kind of cr*p really boils my piss, I mean SERIOUSLY,is it just me??? Am I out of touch altogether, or is there something very wrong when we let such young kids wander round this late at night without supervision?
It comes across as the parent/s not giving a f*ck as long as the kids arent indoors annoying them and disrupting the tv shows.
Am I just an outdated dinosaur, or do you think I have a point?

no your not. i agree kids ahouldnt be out that late at night... and it i poor perenting..

I was standing on a very full luis with miss mummy and her 4 yr old and 8 yr old double pramand 3 wheeler (ehich Shouldbe banned) i swear i wanted to strangle her dont do that ule fall dont do that ule hurt ur selves dont do that it might hurt oh youle fall, i felt like grabing her and saying i fell out of trees as a kid i grazed my knee's. i got teath knocked out trying to jump on my skate board I was a kid its the law to feel a bit of pain... bruises and knees.

no I perfectly understand... what you mean but modern day perents wraping them up in cottin woll but putting them to bed at 10 pm is kinda cool i remember being sent to bed when it was bright out side id wait for mum to go to bed then go back down and watch young ones with dad

4zn76tysfajdxp

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

no your not. i agree kids ahouldnt be out that late at night... and it i poor perenting..

I was standing on a very full luis with miss mummy and her 4 yr old and 8 yr old double pramand 3 wheeler (ehich Shouldbe banned) i swear i wanted to strangle her dont do that ule fall dont do that ule hurt ur selves dont do that it might hurt oh youle fall, i felt like grabing her and saying i fell out of trees as a kid i grazed my knee's. i got teath knocked out trying to jump on my skate board I was a kid its the law to feel a bit of pain... bruises and knees.

no I perfectly understand... what you mean but modern day perents wraping them up in cottin woll but putting them to bed at 10 pm is kinda cool i remember being sent to bed when it was bright out side id wait for mum to go to bed then go back down and watch young ones with dad

Did you ever hit your head?

Tchaikovsky

sdonn wrote: »

When I was younger (9-13) we were always out on the road until 10 or 11 at this time of year, until the brightness faded completely, and we were for the most part well brought up, not neglected.

Nothing wrong with it during the summer with no school etc, only other thing to do is run riot inside the house instead, not really fair to shove kids to bed at 10pm during the summer, again I was always allowed up till 11, as I got older into 12-13 maybe 12-1am with no school.

I'm practically nocturnal now though, so maybe t'wasnt the best of ideas :pac:

Same here. Myself and the kids in my neighbourhood used to stay out until 10 or 11, doing kids stuff- playing football, cycling, hide and seek. Summer childhood days are the best of your life, you never want them to end

lgoring21

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

"....because, as the old saying goes 'Let your children run wild and free'."

think theres a song too

'born free...free as the wind blowes':D

Eire-Dearg

The neighbour's kids are now on holiday and bugging the ****e out of me, asking me to come out and play football or ****in' power rangers ****e. then their mammy comes out shouting for them and i'm left trying to explain why they're down at my place.

carlybabe1

sdonn wrote: »

When I was younger (9-13) we were always out on the road until 10 or 11 at this time of year, until the brightness faded completely, and we were for the most part well brought up, not neglected.

Nothing wrong with it during the summer with no school etc, only other thing to do is run riot inside the house instead, not really fair to shove kids to bed at 10pm during the summer, again I was always allowed up till 11, as I got older into 12-13 maybe 12-1am with no school.

I'm practically nocturnal now though, so maybe t'wasnt the best of ideas :pac:

Eh, It was dark by half ten. I woudlnt mind my kids out late if it was bright, but unfortunately for them, nasty urban myths invade my brain. Two headed monsters called paedophiles exist in my imagination, and though Ive never seen one up close, rumour has it that they are all around us.
Id rather have my kids think Im the biggest pain in the ass, than have somethin happen to them cause its too warm to have them inside wreckin me melon

4zn76tysfajdxp

carlybabe1 wrote: »

Eh, It was dark by half ten. I woudlnt mind my kids out late if it was bright, but unfortunately for them, nasty urban myths invade my brain. Two headed monsters called paedophiles exist in my imagination, and though Ive never seen one up close, rumour has it that they are all around us.
Id rather have my kids think Im the biggest pain in the ass, than have somethin happen to them cause its too warm to have them inside wreckin me melon

I don't think anybody was calling your parenting skills into question. Jeepers, why are parents so flipping defensive?

though Ive never seen one up close, rumour has it that they are all around us.

Are...you...uh...what?

This_Years_Love

It's like that in my neighbourhood too. In fact, there's still a group of kids out right now playing in a garden across the road. Their mother works in a pub at night and leaves the eldest (he's about 12 or 13 I think) minding the younger kids (there 5 kids total) so of course the kids are always out until the early hours of the morning. The dad's not around - hasn't been for a few years. it's so irresponible. Get a proper babysitter!

sdanseo

Susan Nervous Brunette wrote: »

I don't think anybody was calling your parenting skills into question. Jeepers, why are parents so flipping defensive?

Certainly not, just suggesting that she be a teeny bit more liberal. Then again, I say I was out till 11 ish, most of that last hour was spent being called every 10mins.

As for pedos stealing your kids, fair enough you're worried about them but chances are if they're with 10 other kids they're safe enough. At that age (10-13) they should know how to scream for attention and/or run away and any of this can happen during the daytime just as easily.

Snowie

Susan Nervous Brunette wrote: »

Did you ever hit your head?

Are you a Nerd ?

4zn76tysfajdxp

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Are you a Nerd ?

Whatever do you mean?

stovelid

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Won't be long until there stealing cars, getting pregnant and being taken away in the paddywagons.

God how time flies.

They get it up so quickly.

Greenmachine

Crazy allowing 9-10 year odls out at these times. They should be in bed by 10 o' clock fo sho.

Snowie

Susan Nervous Brunette wrote: »

Whatever do you mean?

have you ever hit your head?

4zn76tysfajdxp

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

have you ever hit your head?

Oh right. Yes I have.

bigdaddyliamo

Kids need routine! as fun as it is for them to be running around until midnight they really need to be in the leaba at an appropriate time.


God, I'm sooooo old...!:(

K-9

carlybabe1 wrote: »

So here I am at 11.45pm watching tv (well I was), my ten & six yr olds in bed fast asleep since 10.00pm, (in off the road since 9.30pm) when the sounds of screeching and laughter come through my open windows. I know the voices, and they're all between the ages of 6 & 11. Out on the road at 11.45pm, no sign of an adult anywhere. This kind of cr*p really boils my piss, I mean SERIOUSLY,is it just me??? Am I out of touch altogether, or is there something very wrong when we let such young kids wander round this late at night without supervision?
It comes across as the parent/s not giving a f*ck as long as the kids arent indoors annoying them and disrupting the tv shows.
Am I just an outdated dinosaur, or do you think I have a point?

Apparently people like me and you are the exception, not the norm.

The parents will wonder where it all went wrong in 10 years time but it still will not sink in! AH posters are the typical by product.

Snowie

Susan Nervous Brunette wrote: »

Oh right. Yes I have.

Your almost as impressive as ace rimmer

4zn76tysfajdxp

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Your almost as impressive as ace rimmer

Oh, thanks.

Snowie

Susan Nervous Brunette wrote: »

Oh, thanks.

don't let it get to you head.....


Smmmmmmeeeeeeeeegggggggg Hhhheeeeaaaaddddd

Jeebus

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

don't let it get to you head.....


Smmmmmmeeeeeeeeegggggggg Hhhheeeeaaaaddddd

Did your parents leave you hang about street corners until 10 or 11 at night or something ? :rolleyes:

Snowie

Jeebus wrote: »

Did your parents leave you hang about street corners until 10 or 11 at night or something ? :rolleyes:

No they sat me in front of the telly and made me watch the life of brian bottem red dwarf and the young one's

did i miss something ?

Nevyn

carlybabe1 wrote: »

So here I am at 11.45pm watching tv (well I was), my ten & six yr olds in bed fast asleep since 10.00pm, (in off the road since 9.30pm) when the sounds of screeching and laughter come through my open windows. I know the voices, and they're all between the ages of 6 & 11. Out on the road at 11.45pm, no sign of an adult anywhere. This kind of cr*p really boils my piss, I mean SERIOUSLY,is it just me??? Am I out of touch altogether, or is there something very wrong when we let such young kids wander round this late at night without supervision?
It comes across as the parent/s not giving a f*ck as long as the kids arent indoors annoying them and disrupting the tv shows.
Am I just an outdated dinosaur, or do you think I have a point?

That is seriously too late for them to be out.

we'llallhavetea_old

The annoying thing is, god forbid something happened to the kids, the parents will be the first ones to scream and bawl about how could it have happened! You're not a dinosaur, i'm twenty four, have a five year old daughter and i dont let her out on the street at all. Ever. She doesn't ask to go out there, but if she did, i'd be out there too.

brendansmith

Young hoppa's gotz ta slang dey shi-at yo.

KeyLimePie

I agree with the OP my sister is 12 and I would not leave her out at these hours

And it's not the parents being too liberal, it's just that they don't care one bit

jumpguy

Depends where you live, in Dublin, no. In any rough area, no. In a nice quiet and small neighbourhood, yes. I used to be out until like 1 or 2 on a good weekend with my brother and sister & all the friends and people in the neighbourhood and we'd have great craic. Freedom like that is needed in childhood like. Most annoying thing about "modern" parents (modern as in 2000's) is parents who wrap their child in a bubble and sends them to far away "nice" schools.

sdanseo

jumpguy wrote: »

Depends where you live, in Dublin, no. In any rough area, no. In a nice quiet and small neighbourhood, yes. I used to be out until like 1 or 2 on a good weekend with my brother and sister & all the friends and people in the neighbourhood and we'd have great craic. Freedom like that is needed in childhood like. Most annoying thing about "modern" parents (modern as in 2000's) is parents who wrap their child in a bubble and sends them to far away "nice" schools. Going to public school is important to have a well-balanced person.

Without wanting to turn this into a public/private school debate, I disagree. I went to a public school until 13 and a private secondary school, for the first couple of years still played with kids around home that went to the local community school and consider myself nicely balanced.

Lol, nice edit reason! You're dead right it's not worth arguing about, and it's true a lot of people in private schools end up tosspots who look down on people less well off, I know plenty of them. I on the other hand am quite happy to associate with pretty much anyone who isnt a scumbag and who's reasonably friendly.

brendansmith

jumpguy wrote: »

Depends where you live, in Dublin, no. In any rough area, no. In a nice quiet and small neighbourhood, yes. I used to be out until like 1 or 2 on a good weekend with my brother and sister & all the friends and people in the neighbourhood and we'd have great craic. Freedom like that is needed in childhood like. Most annoying thing about "modern" parents (modern as in 2000's) is parents who wrap their child in a bubble and sends them to far away "nice" schools.

True, ever notice how kids with strict parents never quite fit in anywhere and get bullied and beaten up and stabbed etc

K-9

brendansmith wrote: »

True, ever notice how kids with strict parents never quite fit in anywhere and get bullied and beaten up and stabbed etc

And you ever notice the kids with liberal parents end up bullying, stabbing and beating up others?

Think there was a book about this type of thing published at some stage.

I love stereotypes!

brendansmith

I would prefer to be the stabber than the stabbie. Wouldnt you agree?

jumpguy

sdonn wrote: »

Without wanting to turn this into a public/private school debate, I disagree. I went to a public school until 13 and a private secondary school, for the first couple of years still played with kids around home that went to the local community school and consider myself nicely balanced.

Lol, nice edit reason! You're dead right it's not worth arguing about, and it's true a lot of people in private schools end up tosspots who look down on people less well off, I know plenty of them. I on the other hand am quite happy to associate with pretty much anyone who isnt a scumbag and who's reasonably friendly.

Ya fecker you got me quoted before the edit! :P

K-9 wrote: »

And you ever notice the kids with liberal parents end up bullying, stabbing and beating up others?

Think there was a book about this type of thing published at some stage.

I love stereotypes!

My parents are by no means liberal. They're not, no, no, no. I got the smack in the hole when I needed it. It's just...different. You're only that young once, and you just can't stifle children like that. It's definetly a happy-medium thing. It's too hard to put into words though.

K-9

brendansmith wrote: »

I would prefer to be the stabber than the stabbie. Wouldnt you agree?

Personally, I don't go with either. There is a medium.

jumpguy wrote:

My parents are by no means liberal. They're not, no, no, no. I got the smack in the hole when I needed it. It's just...different. You're only that young once, and you just can't stifle children like that. It's definetly a happy-medium thing. It's too hard to put into words though.

Exactly. If you encourage kids to be bullies it will backfire later on you. One of the few things that do come back to haunt those that do deserve to suffer!
They'll usually be the criers though. Not the kids, more the parents!

KittyeeTrix

Grew up in a council estate myself, best times of my life.... but that was near 35 years ago and things have changed since then. I decided with hubby to move out to the country with our 4 kids. Great move for our kids but personally I'm a council estate girl, I really miss the closeness of all the people around me and the community thingy, if ya get me!!

Just came from my sisters house in a Galway city council estate tonight and she is close to tears as half of the estate's young kids were still out at 10.30pm screaming and kicking balls outside her front door:mad:

Problem is that the new council houses have no front gardens and they also have these air vents installed in every room which allow all the noise outside to filter inside, it's enough to drive ya insane, coupled with the fact that most of these young kids have parents who really don't give a flying f**k what their kids are up to

lgoring21

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

The annoying thing is, god forbid something happened to the kids, the parents will be the first ones to scream and bawl about how could it have happened! You're not a dinosaur, i'm twenty four, have a five year old daughter and i dont let her out on the street at all. Ever. She doesn't ask to go out there, but if she did, i'd be out there too.

+1

im23 and have a 3 and half year old..and its the same with me..its absolutely disgusting driving in2 council estate with these toddlers playin barbies sittin in the middle of the road...even at 11 and 12 kids that age they are still out runnin the street

in my opinon thats not wrappin them up in cotton wool..my son doesnt full comprehend the rules of the road or if strange person gave him sweets i know he wood walk off with him...its the innocence of them.

in my opinion during summer hols there is enuf hours during the day for them to be out with their mates than running the streets at all hours of the night too..

Quazzie

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

Problem is that the new council houses have no front gardens

Good point

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

and they also have these air vents installed in every room which allow all the noise outside to filter inside,

You mean the same vital things that allow very potentially dangerous CO2 gases to escape from your house. Statements like this might encourage people to stuff a sock in these vents, and that's a very dangerous thing to do.

barbiegirl

There's a balance to be reached. Kids can play on the road, especially on cul de sacs, always have, always will. They should be taught how to do so safely, and car drivers MUST be careful in estates.
Parents should have rules about where they can and can't play. My sisters, is quite simple, yes you can play on our road, but you are NOT allowed around the corner. Her door is left on the latch, the sitting room looks over the road, and she sits outside a lot chatting to neighbours etc. and keeping an eye. If one of my nephews goes around the corner, the 8 year old did once, he is grounded and not allowed out at all for 24 hours. He hasn't done it since. As they get older they will be allowed more freedom, but for now the end of the road is enough.
The neighbours know one another and the kids. You cannot wrap a kid in cotton wool they need some freedom.
As to the time thing. In the summer we played outside until it was dark, and that was the deal, we had to be in before dark. We lived in the country so dark, was properly dark. Though the midges normally drove us in before that anyway :-)
I had great parents, we were not neglected. We've all grown up happy and healthy individuals. You have to let kids be kids and have some freedom, especially in the summer holidays.

carlybabe1

lgoring21 wrote: »

+1

im23 and have a 3 and half year old..and its the same with me..its absolutely disgusting driving in2 council estate with these toddlers playin barbies sittin in the middle of the road...even at 11 and 12 kids that age they are still out runnin the street

in my opinon thats not wrappin them up in cotton wool..my son doesnt full comprehend the rules of the road or if strange person gave him sweets i know he wood walk off with him...its the innocence of them.

in my opinion during summer hols there is enuf hours during the day for them to be out with their mates than running the streets at all hours of the night too..

This is exactly my point +1
The kids aren't out playing and havin great crack in the community type of thing, I had that too, but you could be damn sure my parents as well as others were out there too. This is just a "get out of my hair" scenario. Not a parent even looking out the window

My name is URL

I grew up in the country. There was a small group of us as kids in the area and we regularly stayed out late playing, done us no harm tbh.

Though its obviously different in estates, people tend to be alot fcuking nosier in estates.

annabellee77

Agree 100% wth OP.

Even though I also would have been out til late at that age during the summer hols, it's different times now..... What they get up to now and what we got up to then are veeery different things (know this wouldn't apply to every one of them but....)!
Plus e.g. if we were making a lot of noise and a neighbour came out and told us to shut up - we would! I'd be half afraid to go out and tell kids to quieten down now!!