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Sleep paralysis...

  • 02-07-2009 9:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭


    Before I start, what has happened to the sleep paralysis thread? I can't see it anywhere...

    Anyway...Last night I had a dream, then I woke up with sleep paralysis, but I didn't realise it. I started thinking about something, then I had this weird (but relaxing at this point) feeling and it was almost like I was "letting something go"...in a nice way. But then it changed and it was like someone was on top of me pressing down on every part of my body, particularly in well...the worst place to press down on...It was a very scary experience and I was almost afraid to go back to sleep after it...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭marbar


    i'm always afraid to go back to sleep after it. i always feel that the pressure is on my chest and that i cant breathe. wake up gasping for air, finally

    read somewhere that trying to move your ears and your nostrils is one of the best ways to try to wake yourself, so i've been doing that

    remember tellinh people at a session about this and they were freaked out. most had never heard of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭mk6705


    Yeah it's hard to explain to people sometimes. Had another dose of it a while ago. I think it can happen when you're not sleeping on your back but it's only bad if you are. So don't sleep on your back!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭_Roz_


    It's happened to me twice in two years, so it's not exactly common. With me, it's a case of I half wake up, and feel like someone is holding me down, so I naturally try to stuggle and I can't. Scary stuff.

    First time it happened, I woke up looking at my Nightmare Before Christmas poster, and all I could see was a blurry face-shaped pumpkin, which my sleepy brain took to be a person. I freaked :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭claireloopy


    This happens to me everytime I sleep on my back so I havent slept on my back in about a year. Couldnt handle waking up seeing shadows been paralyzed and other stuff every single night. It sucks and I used to like sleepy time :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    never happened to me. Me sister gets it sometimes. Sounds really scary.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭claireloopy


    seanybiker wrote: »
    never happened to me. Me sister gets it sometimes. Sounds really scary.


    it is i miss sleeping on my back too :) lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Adro947 wrote: »
    Before I start, what has happened to the sleep paralysis thread? I can't see it anywhere...

    Anyway...Last night I had a dream, then I woke up with sleep paralysis, but I didn't realise it. I started thinking about something, then I had this weird (but relaxing at this point) feeling and it was almost like I was "letting something go"...in a nice way. But then it changed and it was like someone was on top of me pressing down on every part of my body, particularly in well...the worst place to press down on...It was a very scary experience and I was almost afraid to go back to sleep after it...
    Its exactly what happens to me!
    I now know what it is and I accept it, I kindo of think its cool now:)
    Happens to me maybe once a month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Skapoot


    I hate when it happens! Aaah! I dont really know what causes it in me, but my brother gets it from drinking, and so have a few of my friends. So... If thats any help to anyone out there, give up the oul drink!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭marbar


    it's recreational messing that does it to me

    i was in ibiza at 21 the first time it happened, and i was having a nap. i really thought that i was screaming as loud as i could for my mates to come in and wake me, but that they wouldnt. when i woke i was really pissed off with them, until they looked at me like i'd 8 heads

    it doesn't matter if i'm on my back or not

    how does anyone manage to finally wake themselves?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 905 ✭✭✭FUNKY LOVER


    oh my god i thought i was alone with this.i get it once a week mostly day after i ahve been drinking.

    its so scary cause its like my heart stops and i cant breathe then i fear going back asleep cause it keeps happening.

    does anyone know if there is danger like when my heart stops or when i think i feel it stopping etc?

    its very scary!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭claireloopy


    I dont drink that much so I dont think thats how i got it.

    I just wait it out until i can manage to move my body then I wake up its scary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭mk6705


    A few days ago I had an experience where I was lying thinking, then I started to feel what I was thinking about in a sleep paralysis way. I was able to stop it quick but I wonder if anyone else has experienced anything like that.

    In relation to more severe sleep paralysis it only happens to me when I sleep on my back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    RTE Radio 1 did an interview with a man that suffered from Catoplexy (also.. Narcolepsy)

    It didn't sound half as nice as the above posts, basically a horned demon climbs in through a window and starts jumping around on top of him, beating him up.. Lucid, but paralysed.

    Anyone have the feeling they're sleeping with eyes open dream? Or rather, the frame of mind for your dream is more or less the room you're in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭claireloopy


    Why is it always evil things? Why cant it be good things like fairies lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭mk6705


    Why is it always evil things? Why cant it be good things like fairies lol

    It's not always bad, but it's a scary experience and hard to get used to, so most people have bad experiences with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭keiran110


    It`s scary stuff alright. I woke up completely paralysed twice, couldnt even open my eyes. Eventually after about 5 seconds (what felt like a lifetime), I could move my hand. It really felt like i was pinned to the bed.

    Theres a chemical the body releases to keep you from moving and acting out your dreams when your asleep, i can't remember what its called, poor memory on the college summer holidays. Anyway, when you wake, that chemical is broken down.
    If you wake up and that chemical is still present, you wont be able to move.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭username4321


    It happened to me nearly every night just before and during my exams.
    Must have been stress, I would be in a deep deep sleep and my eyes would just randomly open and i would hallucinate and not be able to move because my body was still asleep. I think this is sleep paralysis.
    I kinda started to just tell myself whenever i woke up i was only hallucinating that it was just my eyes. It helped a bit, but its still unpleasant.


    It also made me think that when people wake and see 'ghosts' at the end of their beds/in their rooms that sleep paralysis could be an explanation for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Smyth


    I've experienced this before too.

    For me, I was having a dream about being stuck in some sort of hell, and in the dream there was some sort of demon who kept whispering in my ear that I wasn't allowed to leave. Then I woke up (paralyzed) and saw my mother walking around the room. I couldn't hear anything but the blood pumping around in my head. It was so loud. I could feel it travelling past my ear. I also felt this pressure on my entire body which didn't help either.

    Worst. Dream. Ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Whiskey Devil


    Skapoot wrote: »
    I hate when it happens! Aaah! I dont really know what causes it in me, but my brother gets it from drinking, and so have a few of my friends. So... If thats any help to anyone out there, give up the oul drink!

    From what I've read it's not actually caused by the alcohol itself - it's the lack of R.E.M. sleep you get whilst under the influence. Basically, drunk sleep is no sleep. From my experience, drinking excessively leads to sleep paralysis, whereas drinking moderately doesn't as it doesn't affect your sleep in the same way. Drinking a FEW beers before going to sleep will help, if you've had a lot to drink in the previous nights.


    The worst part for me is the feeling that your heart is racing (and I mean RACING), you actually think it's going to stop, but when you wake up it's beating normally. The say fighting it is the worst thing you can do, never TRY to move or open your eyes, it just prolongs it. I've had some really long experiences of it (at least they felt long - like a minute or more). :(


    Anyway, sorry for the long post - glad I'm not the only one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭cokedrinker


    This has happened to me very frequently since i was about 12 (Im 27 now!). Every single time it happens i feel like there is someone in the room with me, and that i have just been drugged - I struggle to move and try shouting but to no avail...before falling back to sleep again.

    That moment in which it happens is still always scarey for me!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭paikea


    It is so good to see that what happened to me was actually normal :). Because it only happened once with me (20 years ago) and I never heard of any one talking about it before, I actually thought it was something else. I am not talking about demons and stuff. But I thought that I was suffering from something like (low) blood pressure.

    In my case it was a mess. I was sleeping when these baby birds started making noise in the middle of the night. In my dream I imagined that someone was playing with a pencil hitting the hard floor. So I decided to wake up. That is when everything went wrong. I could not wake up, I was trying very hard to call for my brothers, and of course I could not move. I wanted to get up, move anything but I couldn't. I felt like there was this river of energy going from my head to my toes. Not like if I was being drained but more like I was in the middle of it.

    When I finally woke up, my body was calm and that just made me even more scared. I ran out of the room crying looking for my brothers. It took me a while to feel ok about sleeping again. It helped when I found out that it was the birds that were making the noise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭keiran110


    Yeah i actually never had the weird life-like dreams or visions when i woke up paraylsed.
    I literally woke up (in my head) and couldn't open my eyes, move even a baby finger etc... I was fully alert though and not in a dream-like condition. No creepy visions for me. And thank god thats so, that sounds intense fo everybody that experienced strange paraylsed dreams.

    O and yeah, i've also read how alcohol can induce sleep paraylsis. It was in a popular scientific article though so i dont actually know the in's and out's of the chemical reason why it happens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭pinkheels88


    Sleep paralysis is AWFUL. :( It happens to me a couple of times a year, usually when I'm stressed out (exam time/ assignment deadlines etc.) and especially when I go to bed exhausted - I guess that would explain how lack of REM sleep can lead to terrible bouts of it. I don't have visual hallucinations but auditory hallucinations like a ringing in my ears that increases in volume and an overhwelming sense of impending doom. Awful! Best tip is to avoid going to bed too tired, avoid sleeping on your back if possible and try falling asleep with your hand positioned beside your leg or on your arm so you can pinch yourself awake- that's helped me! :)
    The worst of it is when you are trying to scream out for help - it happened me once when I fell asleep and my boyfriend was beside me and I could see him sleeping but couldn't get his attention. Worst ever!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 mhogan101


    I used to get it quite alot when I was in my teens, really scared the b-jesus out of me, the only way I could get out of it was if I managed to move my head to the side but this would be quite hard to do, I found that if I dosed off again after it, it would happen again, it's a horrible feeling, glad I haven't had it in years....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Birdie086


    This used to happen to me every Saturday evening. At the time i was working 40+ hours in the family business as well as going to college. At the time I used to work on a Sat 7am to 6pm and go straight home and have a two hour nap before going out. Invariably i used to 'wakeup' and ther would be someone/soemthing at the end of my bed bed and nothing I could do about it. Used to freak me out untill I spoke about it and then I realised I wasnt alone. To this day about six years later I suffer form night terrors - crazy mad dreams but usually after a big feed of aclohol so i leave a lamp on and can actaully wake myself up form them - can anyone else do this?? To me its a major feat - to be able to wake myself up and get over it I realise the lamp helps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Birdie086


    On a side note how many in this forum have gotten the Falling down dream? You know when it feels as if you are fallin only to wake up form a sleep. I think its something to do with overtiredness and that all your muscles are relaxing at the same time? Correct me if I am worng


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭davej


    This isn't a new phenomenon. Here's a famous painting depicting sleep paralysis from the 18th Century

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    When you are sleeping, the brain paralyses the body so that you don't act out your dreams. It is possible that you can become conscious/aware of your surroundings even though the brain hasn't yet un-paralysed your body...

    davej


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭pinkheels88


    Birdie086 wrote: »
    On a side note how many in this forum have gotten the Falling down dream? You know when it feels as if you are fallin only to wake up form a sleep. I think its something to do with overtiredness and that all your muscles are relaxing at the same time? Correct me if I am worng

    Yup, I've had it happen on occasion. Or other times waking up with a gasp. I've all the luck! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    I get this all the damn time. Since I was a child, as far back as I remember.

    I've been learning how to cope with it. For years I couldn't alert anyone to the fact I was in a 'sleep paralysis' but now I've honed methods of alerting my OH by breathing really short and fast (if I can breath) and trying to force sounds from the back of my throat (as I still find it difficult to make words, but I've made a lot of improvement)

    I can almost make out names when I try and speak. My fave is 'help me' which sounds like 'hup muh' haha.

    Seriously though, it is very scary. It's distressing. Mostly I get back to sleep afterwords pretty quickly, but some times I get multiple bouts of it and I have a rough night.

    As a child it was absolutely terrifying. As an adult I've come to accept it but still not without a few chills whenever I get it.. and see and hear things.. like people walking up my stairs, entering my room and trying to choke me etc.

    Anyway, nice to see I'm not the only one.. (Well not nice.. cos it's not pleasant) :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭gamgsam


    Had this for the last two years

    I actually learned to like it. When im lying there screaming in my head BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then I finally beat it. Aah

    Weird I know, but you get tired of being scared!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    There is an interesting intercultural mythology to it also, every area seems to have its own interpretation and superstition surrounding it. The word nightmare has its Germanic origins in the expereince. Google 'old hag' and 'witch sitting'...

    I get it about once a week, it feels like (what I imagine to be) a heart attack. For some reason I always have control of my right foot so I move it until I'm awake. I'm so used to it now I just wait it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Taz86


    My story seems tame in comparison to what I have read on the internet about sleep paralysis. It happened last week. I was awake but couldn't move. I felt like there was something on my chest. Even though I could feel my right arm I couldn't move it. I kept thinking 'c'mon move your arm' but it just wouldn't budge! I couldn't even feel the rest of my body. I was like lead. It was an awful feeling. I tend to sleep like a log and have had a regular sleep pattern for quite some time now so this was unusual. Hope it doesn't happen again.
    Edit: This never happened to me before but as I said it wasn't as bad as some accounts I've read. I was worried about it afterwards for a few hours but have been sleeping normally since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Skapoot


    Ugh I got it this morning again, haaaate it. So I've just realised that not only do I get it after drinking, I get it if I wake up in the morning and then decide to go back to sleep again.


    I tried moving everything and I could feel my body twitching but it wouldnt wake. Weirdly enough I woke up as soon as I decided to check the time?? It was weird. I dont even know why I decided to.

    This means no more lie ins for me ever again lol!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭delspeed78


    Right, i first read this thread a few months back and remember thinking 'oh ya i got that once or twice, its kinda wierd alright', but last night just freaked me out.

    Now i was after drinking for a few days previous and i do sleep on my back a lot of the time so it is obvious why it happened but it was the lenght that scared me. It wasn't one paralysis but several and it went on for what felt was about 2 hours.

    It started off harmless enough like my father standing over me telling me to get up or my mate suddenly lifted his head up off the pillow beside me and start talking about Man Utd. It was when it started to get physical that it gets a bit frightening. For example feeling like your been held down by your arms and legs or someone poking you with their finger (jesus i'm even getting worked up from just typing about it:eek:)

    Eventually i just got up turned on the light and started reading a book and was fine when i went back to sleep an hour later. It has really caught me by surprise and i will most certainly be going easy on the alcohol in the near future.

    As you can see from the time of this post i am a bit slow in going to bed tonight/morning.....how sad am i..:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭Jessica-Rabbit


    _Roz_ wrote: »
    It's happened to me twice in two years, so it's not exactly common. With me, it's a case of I half wake up, and feel like someone is holding me down, so I naturally try to stuggle and I can't. Scary stuff.

    First time it happened, I woke up looking at my Nightmare Before Christmas poster, and all I could see was a blurry face-shaped pumpkin, which my sleepy brain took to be a person. I freaked :rolleyes:
    Acutally it can be very common and a regular accurance.. I have had this problem since I was 5 and its still a problem it can happen very often


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Dr.NickRiviera


    Just sitting here surfing boards.ie then stumbled upon this interesting thread. I have experienced the same feelings and thoughts as many of the users above.
    I gotta say the one that said 'Come on...bring it!' I identify with the most...very true...after a while u just get sick of whatever it is thats messing with your beauty sleep...be it natural or supernatural!
    Ill save you all the spiel about the medical pseudo-explanations. Anyone can google all that to their hearts content.
    What im interested in is 'the old hag' and 'the shadowman' syndrome...do we fabricate all this in our simple minds? If so why has this phenomenon been recorded for centuries? Science teaches us to explain what we see, hear and touch in terms of facts and figures...but what do we do when science fails?
    Some cultures have recorded this phenomenon and explained it as 'djinn' or demons attacking you in your weakened metaphysical state. Could this be why we usually get these attacks when we are tired, stressed or hungover?
    Alas...the image of poor emily rose and the 'djinn' hopping on her bed is not one wants to dwell on...especially when trying to sleep...

    Goodnight...and next time the old witch or the shadowman visit...dont...be...afraid...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    First time was a bit odd all right, agh I'm paralysed, can't breathe agh!
    Now I'm just like, come on stupid body, start moving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭okioffice84


    Happens me all the time. Several times a week. It is common in shift workers or those with irregular sleeping patterns. Often when it happens to me it can be 2-3 times in succession within 5 mins and I have to wake up properly and move about a bit in the bed to stop it. I don't get any negative hallucinations but can sometimes hear footsteps on a carpet floor. I'm always fully aware I'm experiencing sleep paralysis. Sometimes I get a loud buzzing in my head coupled with a weird feeling of increased pressure in my head which gets louder and higher until I wake myself up properly- google "exploding head syndrome"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 zeruda


    I'm pretty sure i got sleep paralysis this morning... it was so weird :(
    It was quite strange because i was able to move for a while then i wasnt like it kept switching on and off...
    At first i thought i was only dreaming and waking up because when i couldn't move i saw really weird hallucinations and heard buzzing and shuffling sounds although i was pretty sure it wasnt a dream...


    agh so weird!!! kinda cool though :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭Jessica-Rabbit


    Just sitting here surfing boards.ie then stumbled upon this interesting thread. I have experienced the same feelings and thoughts as many of the users above.
    I gotta say the one that said 'Come on...bring it!' I identify with the most...very true...after a while u just get sick of whatever it is thats messing with your beauty sleep...be it natural or supernatural!
    Ill save you all the spiel about the medical pseudo-explanations. Anyone can google all that to their hearts content.
    What im interested in is 'the old hag' and 'the shadowman' syndrome...do we fabricate all this in our simple minds? If so why has this phenomenon been recorded for centuries? Science teaches us to explain what we see, hear and touch in terms of facts and figures...but what do we do when science fails?
    Some cultures have recorded this phenomenon and explained it as 'djinn' or demons attacking you in your weakened metaphysical state. Could this be why we usually get these attacks when we are tired, stressed or hungover?
    Alas...the image of poor emily rose and the 'djinn' hopping on her bed is not one wants to dwell on...especially when trying to sleep...

    Goodnight...and next time the old witch or the shadowman visit...dont...be...afraid...
    you scared the hell out of me i wont sleep for a month thanks for that:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    I feel like I'm in a room with fellow sufferers...

    "Hi I'm Soupy and I suffer from night terrors" :(


    I'll never for as long as I live forget my first experience of paralysis. I was 10 and I woke in the wee hours, the landing light was always left on when we were kids and the doors had glass panels at the top. Anyway, as I lay there helpless trying to call out for my mam I realized that a dark figure was slowly starting to appear in the glass panel, followed by an arm stretching in through the door, not nice for a ten year old. Further Incidents were quite sporadic until a few years ago when I started having night terrors.

    These are guaranteed to happen if I sleep on my back, funny thing is that no matter how tired I am I cannot fall asleep on my back, but should I roll over on my back then Im in for some sort on nastiness. I also wail and moan when the terrors get violent and graphic, I frighted the life out of my poor GF the first time she experienced it. When it happens noe she just turns me over and rubs my back :o


    The terrors themselves always follow the same format, they take place in the room I'm asleep in, I'm asleep and dreaming, I'm telling myself to wake up (which sometimes works)The nastiness is usually a cloaked or witch like figure gliding softly at the end of the bed, I feel totally calm and serine but with no warning I suddenly feel very very threatened, panic starts rising and the figure starts to move to me painfully slowly (queue my whelps and wails) If the GF isnt beside me then I have to ride it out till I wake otherwise she'll sort me out.


    As to what causes or triggers it, the only solid answer I can give is that it happens when Im on my back. As regards all other theories put forward, It happens when Im both drunk and sober, I work nights now but it started way back when I was in college...As horrific as it can be I dont think about it much!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 neutra


    Amalgam wrote: »
    RTE Radio 1 did an interview with a man that suffered from Catoplexy (also.. Narcolepsy)

    It didn't sound half as nice as the above posts, basically a horned demon climbs in through a window and starts jumping around on top of him, beating him up.. Lucid, but paralysed.

    Anyone have the feeling they're sleeping with eyes open dream? Or rather, the frame of mind for your dream is more or less the room you're in.

    Yes, I have thought I was awake in a dream in the room I was in and woken to realise I was asleep and dreaming... not quite the same but still! :confused:

    Just remembered I have had several experiences where I have also felt myself leave my physical body, too. Again, not the same but not a level of consciousness which is over-familiar. Zombified, yes: from sleep-deprevation. So, I have just written down what I think has been a denied or a blocked memory and I am hoping very much that recalling it will help me overcome insomnia ...would be excellent. Progress.

    I have had a fear of falling asleep (which sounds so, so silly) ten years, maybe more. Not really sure at all. Time, I'm not keen on time. Watching the minutes pass unless there is an appointment to keep, that's courtesy towards the others at the same meeting so I do it, as one does. That's as far as I take its sigificance, really, so it could be much longer. Not that it matters. I'd like to be able to settle down for a good sleep. I am not afraid of being asleep, only of falling asleep. Maybe all I need is to acknowledge this as a problem and get on with getting over it. I hope so.

    Any one else have this phobia? I wonder about my sanity and/or lack of on a regular basis (not only when trying to sleep!) It did worry me but I still pass as sane (eccentric, sometimes, but hey!) Provided no-one can lock me away for reasons of insanity, it doesn't bother me. Anymore. I do feel I have to watch over myself to stop clues reaching the men-in-white coming to lock me up but then really, am I less sane than others whilst I can see and make a judgement call on my reasoning and behaviour which is not under major question by anyone but myself. For all I know, it is relatively okay to have the falling-asleep fear and there may be sociopaths and worse lurking at every corner who appear sensible and sane to me but may be so far out of their minds that they walk beside themselves. I'm not going to ask, though... and I do know that it is impossible or close. Not on every corner! Statistics, as I understand them, have calmed my worries there. I'm not totally insane. Insomnia, it could all be down to that. It does have far worse effects on me than I'd care to admit, I suspect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭Blame it on the


    I feel like I'm in a room with fellow sufferers...

    "Hi I'm Soupy and I suffer from night terrors" :(


    I'll never for as long as I live forget my first experience of paralysis. I was 10 and I woke in the wee hours, the landing light was always left on when we were kids and the doors had glass panels at the top. Anyway, as I lay there helpless trying to call out for my mam I realized that a dark figure was slowly starting to appear in the glass panel, followed by an arm stretching in through the door, not nice for a ten year old. Further Incidents were quite sporadic until a few years ago when I started having night terrors.

    These are guaranteed to happen if I sleep on my back, funny thing is that no matter how tired I am I cannot fall asleep on my back, but should I roll over on my back then Im in for some sort on nastiness. I also wail and moan when the terrors get violent and graphic, I frighted the life out of my poor GF the first time she experienced it. When it happens noe she just turns me over and rubs my back :o


    The terrors themselves always follow the same format, they take place in the room I'm asleep in, I'm asleep and dreaming, I'm telling myself to wake up (which sometimes works)The nastiness is usually a cloaked or witch like figure gliding softly at the end of the bed, I feel totally calm and serine but with no warning I suddenly feel very very threatened, panic starts rising and the figure starts to move to me painfully slowly (queue my whelps and wails) If the GF isnt beside me then I have to ride it out till I wake otherwise she'll sort me out.


    As to what causes or triggers it, the only solid answer I can give is that it happens when Im on my back. As regards all other theories put forward, It happens when Im both drunk and sober, I work nights now but it started way back when I was in college...As horrific as it can be I dont think about it much!

    silly as it might sound, next time you have a lucid dream, just ask the cloaked/witch person why they are there. If you can tell yourself to wake up in a dream you can control your dream to an extent. Ask what they want and if you can't help them ask them to go somewhere else as they are frightening you.

    And no, I don't need the men in white coats to call around, thanks.

    But please let me know if it helped.


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    neutra wrote: »
    Yes, I have thought I was awake in a drem in the room I was in and woken to realise I was asleep and dreaming... not quite the same but still! :confused:

    same thing happened to me yesterday (technically)

    thought I was awake but couldn't move. Tried to wake up. Could hear everything around me and finally woke up to find I was still asleep:eek:

    Maybe I do need those men in white coats afterall...

    lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    silly as it might sound, next time you have a lucid dream, just ask the cloaked/witch person why they are there. If you can tell yourself to wake up in a dream you can control your dream to an extent. Ask what they want and if you can't help them ask them to go somewhere else as they are frightening you.

    And no, I don't need the men in white coats to call around, thanks.

    But please let me know if it helped.

    Thats a seriously interesting idea, I will try although telling myself to wakeup could also be a pre-programmed part of the dream too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭Blame it on the


    Thats a seriously interesting idea, I will try although telling myself to wakeup could also be a pre-programmed part of the dream too!

    I doubt it's pre-programmed Soupy as you'd have to know that you were sleeping/dreaming to want to wake up. Different dream state and active brain for those things. Use it as a last resort.

    If you can do as I suggested, you have the possible benefit of finding out what's going on in your "subconscious" and perhaps the nicer possibility of it going away.....for good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    I doubt it's pre-programmed Soupy as you'd have to know that you were sleeping/dreaming to want to wake up. Different dream state and active brain for those things. Use it as a last resort.

    If you can do as I suggested, you have the possible benefit of finding out what's going on in your "subconscious" and perhaps the nicer possibility of it going away.....for good.


    It may sound weird but I would never try to get rid of it. I find it totally fascinating tbh, it's just so real and vivid...Closet thing to something paranormal happening to me. Maybe thats crazy talk :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭Blame it on the


    It may sound weird but I would never try to get rid of it. I find it totally fascinating tbh, it's just so real and vivid...Closet thing to something paranormal happening to me. Maybe thats crazy talk :confused:

    down with the men in little white coats for this one so...

    lol:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Just had my first experience of this. It was bloody terrifying. Been back from Vancouver about 3 days and have barely been able to sleep so I drifted off in my brand new bed with a big thick blanket on me.

    It's weird, I can't tell if I switched on or just slowly gained more awareness. I barely ever remember dreams at all, and most of the time wake up unaware if I even dreamed. I felt pinned to the bed and then it felt like I was shooting up into the air. I don't believe in the supernatural but this was just so out of the ordinary for me. I couldn't move, I tried to call out but I couldn't. It felt like I was in this hovering state, petrified, for ages. At some stage I managed to reach for my light and then I guess I was awake. Also realized that I woke up in a patch of my own drool =/

    First thing I did was grab my lappy and googled "Sleep, constriction, can't move" and Yahoo Answers provided the answer. That's 2 out of 2 for Yahoo Answers actually because last Winter I was able to self diagnose chilblains (Also sucks).


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    Kold wrote: »
    Just had my first experience of this. It was bloody terrifying. Been back from Vancouver about 3 days and have barely been able to sleep so I drifted off in my brand new bed with a big thick blanket on me.

    It's weird, I can't tell if I switched on or just slowly gained more awareness. I barely ever remember dreams at all, and most of the time wake up unaware if I even dreamed. I felt pinned to the bed and then it felt like I was shooting up into the air. I don't believe in the supernatural but this was just so out of the ordinary for me. I couldn't move, I tried to call out but I couldn't. It felt like I was in this hovering state, petrified, for ages. At some stage I managed to reach for my light and then I guess I was awake. Also realized that I woke up in a patch of my own drool =/

    First thing I did was grab my lappy and googled "Sleep, constriction, can't move" and Yahoo Answers provided the answer. That's 2 out of 2 for Yahoo Answers actually because last Winter I was able to self diagnose chilblains (Also sucks).

    I hate to disappoint you Kold but you could just be suffering from extreme jet lag. Give me a minute to check and I'll get back to you with a link.

    http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/clocks/summer/jetlag.html

    http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=9806

    As for the chilblains, bet Yahoo didn't show you this one: -

    http://raynauds.chicanes.net/potioncms/articlefiles/57-Chilblains.pdf

    There is medication that can help if you are diagnosed with this. It's not a serious condition at all.


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