New DART Livery

DWCommuter

luzon wrote: »

Man you just love to complain the railway in ireland only really got real

investment 10 years ago it takes time to build a world class rail service

im sure if we had dart services every 5mins 24hrs day dublin to cork in 1hr and a return ticket for 1euro to cork you would still complain.

why dont you just drive or better yet get the bus as the old saying goes "we are not there yet but we are getting there" viva la DART

Cheers for that wisdom. Im enlightened and have seen the error of my ways.

Draupnir

25 years of being 10 minutes late and thinking that's punctual, they've brought these stickers out to indicate that they are entering a 25 year period of being 5 minutes late and thinking that's punctual.

Did the Minister at the time of launch mention that it would be 50 years before the staff of CIE would be trained to understand the true definition of the word punctual?

Judgement Day

murphaph wrote: »

...and inside the GDR it's what? world class? hahaha....

Jesus ...get over it! If you were commuting in the 1970s you might have reason to complain but despite overcrowding things have improved out of all recognition in the Greater Dublin Area. The DART, Luas, reopening of Maynooth line, improved commuter services on South Eastern & Northern Lines, new commuter services on Dublin/Kildare route etc. Back in the 1970s things were in a dire state with appalling rolling stock, limited services (Bray line only had Sunday services during the summer!), carriages that leaked when it rained or filled with steam from the heating, carriages with only two small doors per coach (sometimes swollen from the damp and not opening) or falling off on top of passengers as happened in Bray on one occasion...... Have a look at this charming pic of yours truly (nearest!) taken in 1980 in a luxurious push-pull unit at Bray.

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Nostradamus

Judgement Day wrote: »

Have a look at this charming pic of yours truly (nearest!) taken in 1980 in a luxurious push-pull unit at Bray.

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That's an incredible picture. All that missing is the gas chamber and a couple of red neck prison guards named Clutus and Bubba. The nearest guy looks like he is taking comfort from a bible.

Yes Irish Rail has a lot of problems, but it is worth looking at images like this to see just how shocking Government investment in rail in this country has been.

We can't blame them for that. CIE should hire me to be their creative consulant. I would give them a livery which would make people who drive the trains look forward to going to work and their passengers feel more relaxed. That stuff is important, even though people think it isn't.

murphaph

Judgement Day wrote: »

Jesus ...get over it! If you were commuting in the 1970s you might have reason to complain but despite overcrowding things have improved out of all recognition in the Greater Dublin Area. The DART, Luas, reopening of Maynooth line, improved commuter services on South Eastern & Northern Lines, new commuter services on Dublin/Kildare route etc. Back in the 1970s things were in a dire state with appalling rolling stock, limited services (Bray line only had Sunday services during the summer!), carriages that leaked when it rained or filled with steam from the heating, carriages with only two small doors per coach (sometimes swollen from the damp and not opening) or falling off on top of passengers as happened in Bray on one occasion...... Have a look at this charming pic of yours truly (nearest!) taken in 1980 in a luxurious push-pull unit at Bray.

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Outsdie dublin the main lines have had the same token investment and have all nhad their ancient rolling stock replaced. It doesn't mean it's anyu good.

kaizersoze

Judgement Day wrote: »

Have a look at this charming pic of yours truly (nearest!) taken in 1980 in a luxurious push-pull unit at Bray.

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Forget to shower that day?:p

A Dub in Glasgo

murphaph wrote: »

But I compared CIE (state run transport) to BVG (state run transport), not to private companies who can waste their own money if they so desire.

Amazingly enough, the private companies are subsidised to the hilt in Britain from taxpayers.

The Scottish Government has decided to have one ScotRail branding irrespective of who is the current franchisee

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icdg

murphaph wrote: »

Complete waste of time and money and something CIE seem to revel in. How many Dublin Bus liveries has there been in the last 20 years?

In fairness, there has only actually been two DART liveries over its 25 year lifetime. And it would be a very eagle-eyed commuter who would notice the difference between them (a yellow stripe, mainly) . There have been five DART logos, but they have all been so similar that the general public would not notice the diffence:

1984: original logo: DART Dublin Area Rapid Transit CIE
1988: DART Dublin Area Rapid Transit <<<<< (CIE logo removed)
2001: DART (no longer spelt out what it meant)
2003: DART (new logo in Commuter logo style - still not on all carriages)
2009: DART 25

In England, there seems to be a new livery on the Great Eastern line every time I go over:
1995: Network SouthEast - Great Eastern
2000: First Great Eastern
2002: one Great Eastern
2008: National Express East Anglia

No wonder the BR logo is still most associated with rail travel in England - it is the only thing that remains constant and every TOC uses it in some capacity.