Corona Extra Drinkers - Bit of help here

Gazza22

Ok well i just got home, popped open a bottle of Corona that was in the freezer. Everything was fine, not frozen. I cut a slice of lemon (no limes) and put it in.

Bottle goes all crazy on me with mist coming from it and then next of all the beer begins to freeze from top to bottom. And here i am now with a frozen bottle of beer....?

Why the **** did this happen?

easyeason3

I blame it on the immigrants.

EDIT: And who the fcuk has a fresh lemon to slice up???? The lime is where it's all at these days, everyone knows that :cool:

Gazza22

Could be a lesson for drinking piss....or punishment for using a lemon....or a combination of the two.

HotSwap

I believe this happens because the beer is below 0 degrees, and when you put the lemon slice into the bottle it gives the ice crystals something to latch onto, thus starting the freezing. I saw this on youtube a while ago -->

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1024097/freeze_a_beer_in_two_seconds/

I hope you had a backup beer

--HotSwap--

FearDark

It happens with any beer, its fine when you take it out of the freezer but open it and shake up the bottle a bit (thus mixing oxygen into the beer) causes it to freeze up in a split second.

Youtube it.

Ardscoil Ris

HotSwap wrote: »

I believe this happens because the beer is below 0 degrees, and when you put the lemon slice into the bottle it gives the ice crystals something to latch onto, thus starting the freezing. I saw this on youtube a while ago -->

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1024097/freeze_a_beer_in_two_seconds/

I hope you had a backup beer

--HotSwap--

Witch craft. I understand now.

HotSwap

FearDark wrote: »

It happens with any beer, its fine when you take it out of the freezer but open it and shake up the bottle a bit (thus mixing oxygen into the beer) causes it to freeze up in a split second.

Youtube it.

I don't think its the oxygen, I think its either the ice crystals having something to start the freezing, or the change in pressure in the liquid cos of the release of the bubbles, but I'm not convinced by the pressure argument at the moment.

bronte

Just melt it!

FearDark

HotSwap wrote: »

I don't think its the oxygen, I think its either the ice crystals having something to start the freezing, or the change in pressure in the liquid cos of the release of the bubbles, but I'm not convinced by the pressure argument at the moment.

You can leave a beer in the freezer for 2 hours, take it out and drink it not a bother, give it a little shake when its opened and the whole thing will freeze.

Anyway, lemon/lime in a corona is retarded and disgusting, corona is far too nice to do that to, sure its a mexican beer so origionally it was a lemon/lime popped in the top to disenfect the top of the bottle, you arent supposed to acually drink the beer with it in it. Jesus, if you want to kill the taste of beer to it to Miller or Budweiser.

Gazza22

Ha thanks guys....i thought i was losing the marbles for a minute.

bronte wrote:

Just melt it!

I fcuked it in the bin - it's disrupting precious drinking time :pac:

jiltloop

I think it has to do with the bottle being under pressure, once the pressure is released then the freezing point of the beer is increased therefore the beer can freeze at a higher temperature than when it was under pressure in the bottle. Clear as mud.

Hogzy

FearDark wrote: »

Anyway, lemon/lime in a corona is retarded and disgusting, corona is far too nice to do that to, sure its a mexican beer so origionally it was a lemon/lime popped in the top to disenfect the top of the bottle, you arent supposed to acually drink the beer with it in it. Jesus, if you want to kill the taste of beer to it to Miller or Budweiser.

Each to their own my friend but i think you will find that about 90% of Corona drinkers like the lime! I think Corona simply isnt the same without the lime, its a requirement!!! And putting lemon instead of lime is justsilly. it MUST be lime!

HotSwap

jiltloop wrote: »

I think it has to do with the bottle being under pressure, once the pressure is released then the freezing point of the beer is increased therefore the beer can freeze at a higher temperature than when it was under pressure in the bottle. Clear as mud.

I believe that lowering the pressure of a liquid (mainly water in this case) will also lower the temperature at which it will freeze. This is why this argument is not convincing to me.

I think the beer was already at a temperature below 0, but the freezing did not start because the inside of the bottle is so smooth there is nowhere for the ice crystals to start forming.

Parsley

The fact that an alcohol/water mixture will have a lower freezing point than pure water probably contributes too. FYI, don't freeze beer. When it thaws out it tastes watery and mank.

jiltloop

HotSwap wrote: »

I believe that lowering the pressure of a liquid (mainly water in this case) will also lower the temperature at which it will freeze. This is why this argument is not convincing to me.

I think the beer was already at a temperature below 0, but the freezing did not start because the inside of the bottle is so smooth there is nowhere for the ice crystals to start forming.

Just did a bit of research and found this: The freezing point of water increases with adecrease in the pressure applied to it

ShooterSF

Magic. Got it.

Random

Someone up high (god?) was trying to tell you something OP. I hope you learned a valuable lesson here today. Now drink your prune juice.

DarkJager

I never understood the appeal of Corona and Lime. "Oh look at me with my beer with a slice of ****ing fruit floating around in it". Its like a more acceptable version of west coast cooler for people who've lost the keys to the closet. Man up and start drinkin some 8.5% dutch pisswater, it will put hair on your balls instead of a manbag on your shoulder.

entropi

Dont diss the corona, its a nice tasting beer, lime or no lime:) dont feckin put it in the freezer in future though!!:pac:

ShooterSF

DarkJager wrote: »

I never understood the appeal of Corona and Lime. "Oh look at me with my beer with a slice of ****ing fruit floating around in it". Its like a more acceptable version of west coast cooler for people who've lost the keys to the closet. Man up and start drinkin some 8.5% dutch pisswater, it will put hair on your balls instead of a manbag on your shoulder.

I was doing bar work 'round the time it became acceptable for guys to ask for fruit in their beer. The first few that asked me got some weird looks. It's up there with guys drinking alco pops through straws to me.

Seaneh

Agt room temprature the bottle is pressurised when closed, when it is in the fridge for 3-5 hours the liquid is below zero but still too pressureized to freeze, then you remove the lid it doesnt instantly freeze because the molecules are too cold to move fast enough to depressurise and cause the liquid to freeze, then you smack it/disturbe it and release the carbondioxide it de-pressurises the liquid and it freezes, fairly simple stuff.

HotSwap

jiltloop wrote: »

Just did a bit of research and found this: The freezing point of water increases with adecrease in the pressure applied to it

Where did you find that?

ScumLord

Coronas not even got alcohol in it. It's as girls drink.

HotSwap

Seaneh wrote: »

Agt room temprature the bottle is pressurised when closed, when it is in the fridge for 3-5 hours the liquid is below zero but still too pressureized to freeze, then you remove the lid it doesnt instantly freeze because the molecules are too cold to move fast enough to depressurise and cause the liquid to freeze, then you smack it/disturbe it and release the carbondioxide it de-pressurises the liquid and it freezes, fairly simple stuff.

I'm getting a bit obsessed by why this is actually happening I have found the following diagram thats shows the freezing / boiling points of water at different pressures --> http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/phase.html

It would seem that the freezing point is not affected much by small changes in the pressure of the liquid in and around the pressure of the earths atmosphere, "E" on that diagram.

I also am not convinced that when the bottle has been open the liquid is under any pressure at all, as it has an opening into the atmosphere, I think the liquid will be at atmospheric pressure. I do not think that the fact that it is carbonated makes any difference to the pressure of the liquid.

I'm certainly open to being convinced other wise. I would like to know the real reason behind this, not just what some people think is the reason.

Seaneh

What I posted is the real reason, not what I just think. it is DEPRESSURISED when the bottle is opened but the molecules are too cold to move fast enough to release the gass.

What happend when you open a bottle? it fizzes up due to a release of pressure.

when you give the bottle a smack it moves the gas which then rushes to the top, depressurising the liquid and allowing it to freeze as it would if thr gas wasn't present in the liquid.

Black Swan

Gazza22 wrote: »

Bottle goes all crazy on me with mist coming from it and then next of all the beer begins to freeze from top to bottom. And here i am now with a frozen bottle of beer....?

Why the **** did this happen?

When in Mexico they say "Don't drink the water!" You can just imagine...

HotSwap

Seaneh wrote: »

What I posted is the real reason, not what I just think. it is DEPRESSURISED when the bottle is opened but the molecules are too cold to move fast enough to release the gass.

What happend when you open a bottle? it fizzes up due to a release of pressure.

when you give the bottle a smack it moves the gas which then rushes to the top, depressurising the liquid and allowing it to freeze as it would if thr gas wasn't present in the liquid.

You got any sources for this info? I tend not to believe things until I see some damming evidence.

My Argument is that the pressure of the liquid is not in fact affecting the freezing of the liquid. Rather, that the ice cannot form due to not having a "seed" crystal to get it started.

This guy --> http://edutube.org/index.php?q=en/video/supercooled-beer seems to be able to freeze it with the cap still on.

Seaneh

HotSwap wrote: »

You got any sources for this info? I tend not to believe things until I see some damming evidence.

My Argument is that the pressure of the liquid is not in fact affecting the freezing of the liquid. Rather, that the ice cannot form due to not having a "seed" crystal to get it started.

This guy --> http://edutube.org/index.php?q=en/video/supercooled-beer seems to be able to freeze it with the cap still on.

The kiquid at the top of the bottle would have a much higher gas content than the liquid at the bottom because the carbondioxide rushes to the top and depressurized the liquid lower down alloting crystals to form.

The reason the crystals couldnt form at the start is becauce of pressure.

HotSwap

Seaneh wrote: »

The kiquid at the top of the bottle would have a much higher gas content than the liquid at the bottom because the carbondioxide rushes to the top and depressurized the liquid lower down alloting crystals to form.

The reason the crystals couldnt form at the start is becauce of pressure.

In the previous video, it appears that the freezing starts from the top (neck of the bottle), the one where the cap is still on the bottle. This appears to contradict your opinion?

HotSwap

Here is the wikipedia on the subject --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercooling

I have opened this thread --> http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055592266

HS.

nitrogen

FearDark wrote: »

Anyway, lemon/lime in a corona is retarded and disgusting, corona is far too nice to do that to, sure its a mexican beer so origionally it was a lemon/lime popped in the top to disenfect the top of the bottle, you arent supposed to acually drink the beer with it in it. Jesus, if you want to kill the taste of beer to it to Miller or Budweiser.

Corona is weak, filtered, flavourless, overpriced urine. Adding a lime, if anything, makes it slightly drinkable.

civis_liberalis

FearDark wrote: »

sure its a mexican beer so origionally it was a lemon/lime popped in the top to disenfect the top of the bottle, you arent supposed to acually drink the beer with it in it.

And you think that isn't necessary because our bars are so clean? :rolleyes:

kowloon

Compression and decompression are what makes refrigeration work.
The refrigerant is passed through an expansion valve which drops it's temperature and then recompressed outside before passing throught the cycle again. Hence the reason the inside is cool but the back is warm.
Not sure a single slight decompression would be enough to cause instant cooling on its own though. So I'm sure there's something else going on in the bottle.

magick

nitrogen wrote: »

Corona is weak, filtered, flavourless, overpriced urine. Adding a lime, if anything, makes it slightly drinkable.

completely agree

its an insult to beer

arybvtcw0eolkf

I blaim it on youtube.

stovelid

Gazza22 wrote:

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Give Sheryl a hiding. It's all her fault.

ShooterSF

Ehem.

Magic. Got it.

End of discussion.

FearDark

FearDark wrote: »

You can leave a beer in the freezer for 2 hours, take it out and drink it not a bother, give it a little shake when its opened and the whole thing will freeze.

Anyway, lemon/lime in a corona is retarded and disgusting, corona is far too nice to do that to, sure its a mexican beer so origionally it was a lemon/lime popped in the top to disenfect the top of the bottle, you arent supposed to acually drink the beer with it in it. Jesus, if you want to kill the taste of beer to it to Miller or Budweiser.

Hilarious, a Corona snob! Corona is chemical filled, disgusting p*ss. The only thing that makes it drinkable is the lime. It's refreshing when ice cold on a really hot day but that's about it.

Joey the lips

Dont worry we can save the beer. Wack in in the micro for 30 secs then sit it in a sink of hot water.

Drink another borrow one if necessary while waiting.

ps: Corona tastes like sh1t I buy the cheap german beer 6 500ml bottles for 8 euro in lidl.... Tasts a lot better!

Kiera

FearDark wrote: »

You can leave a beer in the freezer for 2 hours, take it out and drink it not a bother, give it a little shake when its opened and the whole thing will freeze.

Anyway, lemon/lime in a corona is retarded and disgusting, corona is far too nice to do that to, sure its a mexican beer so origionally it was a lemon/lime popped in the top to disenfect the top of the bottle, you arent supposed to acually drink the beer with it in it. Jesus, if you want to kill the taste of beer to it to Miller or Budweiser.

Totally agree with this. Lemon and limes are for pussys!

sunnyjim

HotSwap wrote: »

You got any sources for this info? I tend not to believe things until I see some damming evidence.

My Argument is that the pressure of the liquid is not in fact affecting the freezing of the liquid. Rather, that the ice cannot form due to not having a "seed" crystal to get it started.

This guy --> http://edutube.org/index.php?q=en/video/supercooled-beer seems to be able to freeze it with the cap still on.

Damning evidence? Try reading a Junior Cert science book.

Mrmoe

Generally to dissolve CO2 energy is required so the liquid gains energy in this process. However, if the C02 is lost from shaking or other mechanism then energy is lost and this is represented by the freezing of the bottle of beer.

Basq

Balls..

Forgot about a bottle of Heineken I had in the freezer this evening.. so I'm currently enjoying a Heineken Slush Puppy!

MizzLolly

Got 12 bottles for €14.99 yesterday. Wooo

But the lime cost 85c..

Jay P

I can't shed any light on this, but a few years ago I brought home some glass bottles of coke from France and liked drinking them when they were really cold, so I tended to put them in the freezer long enough so there were tiny little crystals of ice in it. With my last bottle I had forgotten how long to put it in for and I left it in there for too long. When I eventually took it out of the freezer, the liquid looked fine. Then when I took off the cover, the coke just started to freeze up very suddenly. It froze downwards, the freezing seemed to travel down the liquid before stopping. I'd imagine it has something to do with 1. The pressure and 2. The fizziness. I'm not an expert though so I dunno...

TheZohanS

Kiera wrote: »

Totally agree with this. Lemon and limes are for pussys!

1. Lemon
2. Lime
3. Peanuts

I'm making a list.

Adamcp898

It's the effect of depressurisation that occurs when the bottle is opened that suddenly causes it to freeze.

markok84

nitrogen wrote: »

Corona is weak, filtered, flavourless, overpriced urine. Adding a lime, if anything, makes it slightly drinkable.

100% agree with this..... Belgian beer is the only way to go anyway.

jumpguy

Adamcp898 wrote: »

It's the effect of depressurisation that occurs when the bottle is opened that suddenly causes it to freeze.

Then it'd have frozen the second the bottle was open. I'm pretty sure they'd be bottled at normal pressure anyway to avoid implosion if the glass was broken. But the cooling might've contracted the air lowering the pressure. Still doesn't explain it though, freezing point decreases with lower pressure.

I spose we'll have to leave it to House. Hilarious image though.

Aidric

FearDark wrote: »

You can leave a beer in the freezer for 2 hours, take it out and drink it not a bother, give it a little shake when its opened and the whole thing will freeze.

Anyway, lemon/lime in a corona is retarded and disgusting, corona is far too nice to do that to, sure its a mexican beer so origionally it was a lemon/lime popped in the top to disenfect the top of the bottle, you arent supposed to acually drink the beer with it in it. Jesus, if you want to kill the taste of beer to it to Miller or Budweiser.

Agree completely. What really irks me is that most barmen naturally presume you want a lime so slam it inside the bottle.

sharkman

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1024097/freeze_a_beer_in_two_seconds/