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leaving cert religion

  • 10-06-2009 2:24pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭


    Hey
    I need some help I have just over a week before religion.I want to get a c3 but I really havent put in much work.What exactly are people studying??
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Twinkle-star15


    Everything on the course. There's no way to predict what's coming up since it's so new- and the have repeated questions before. The only thing my teacher told me was to concentrate on Challenges to the Tradition and Celebrating the Tradition in Section C.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭RuehlTheWorld


    I've got 7 days from today until my exam so I'm spending a good day and a half or two on The Search for Meaning. That's a rather predictable section and it's easy to get marks.

    Then it will be about a day and half or two per each of my other sections.

    It'll be intense but I need an A1.

    I don't think it's as challenging a course as people think, eg Moral Decision Making can be easily answered with common sense and maybe some examples from what's in the news at the minute.

    Don't worry too much, you should've done a project so it will pay off greatly.

    Just approach your chosen sections with an open mind!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭kelle


    What???? There's now a Religion exam???? I know it's been years since I did my LC, but I never believed this would ever be an exam.
    And does it count towards your LC points?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    kelle wrote: »
    What???? There's now a Religion exam???? I know it's been years since I did my LC, but I never believed this would ever be an exam.
    And does it count towards your LC points?

    yep same points for religion as every other subject


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Reilly616


    That's a joke in my opinion. Maths =/= religion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Reilly616 wrote: »
    That's a joke in my opinion. Maths =/= religion.

    Well actually in terms of points that you receive. Religion = Maths :).

    If you want to discuss it's validity as a subject, start a new thread please :).

    I have 2 days after Chem, gonna do Search for Meaning & Xtianity on Wed and World Religions and Science+Religion on Thurs.

    And I might try and start believing in God so I can pray for a decent result!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭Donagh_mc


    Pressure from the Religious establishment in this country forced it in no doubt.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Reilly616


    Fad wrote: »
    Well actually in terms of points that you receive. Religion = Maths :).

    I'm on about usefullness, not points :P

    I'd just hate to do religion as a subject. Seems a bit like CSPE to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Twinkle-star15


    Reilly616 wrote: »
    I'm on about usefullness, not points :P

    I'd just hate to do religion as a subject. Seems a bit like CSPE to me.

    Not for Leaving Cert. It's about the same size as the history course, there's not really that much you can waffle, and the exam is four essays, for two of which you get no choice. So wish I'd never done it!

    I'm off to cram!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 jimjam-06


    Reilly616 wrote: »
    I'm on about usefullness, not points :P

    I'd just hate to do religion as a subject. Seems a bit like CSPE to me.

    Shows how much you know about the subject. It's nothing like CSPE , it details the theology and philosophy of all ancient philosophers and modern religions. It's quite interesting and useful to know about religions in this modern age. It's interesting to those who like theology. I don't think you should diss a subject you don't know anything about


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Donagh_mc wrote: »
    Pressure from the Religious establishment in this country forced it in no doubt.

    I'd imagine most education systems have some sort of examinable religious education at senior level. England's A-levels do anyway.

    America obviously dont, but their education systems is one of the few who (I think) are actually more flawed than ours :pac:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Twinkle-star15


    Fad wrote: »
    I'd imagine most education systems have some sort of examinable religious education at senior level. England's A-levels do anyway.

    Yeah, Ireland is one of the few countries where some sort of philosophy isn't compulsory. From what I know of the French, Spanish and German systems anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 jimjam-06


    poisonated wrote: »
    Hey
    I need some help I have just over a week before religion.I want to get a c3 but I really havent put in much work.What exactly are people studying??
    Thanks

    I'd say rely on Aristotle, Plato and Socrates for section one, usually something about them comes up and the Sophists.

    Christianity section... I'd say focus on christology and contemporary images of Jesus

    In World Religions Section, focus on three main religions, maybe Christianity Judaism and Buddhism and how they compare. Apparently traditions and rites are supposed to come up

    These are just general predictions and tips though! :) Bare minimum like? And I'm not sure what your option section is? We're doing religion and science, so darwin and contemporary issues are tipped to come up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Twinkle-star15


    jimjam-06 wrote: »
    We're doing religion and science, so darwin and contemporary issues are tipped to come up

    Religion and science? Wow that sounds a lot harder than what we did! Religion and gender is pretty easy. And funny, cos my teacher's a die-hard feminist :P.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    I wish I'd done the religion exam outside school now. Took a look at the paper a week before the leaving and I swear to Buddha I could answer most of the questions... Though it's probably because I find the general area of spirituality and religion fascinating anyway.

    Talk about easy points like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    OneArt wrote: »
    I wish I'd done the religion exam outside school now. Took a look at the paper a week before the leaving and I swear to Buddha I could answer most of the questions... Though it's probably because I find the general area of spirituality and religion fascinating anyway.

    Talk about easy points like.


    I really doubt that you could.

    I dont know you, or what you're into, but the SEC are looking for fairly specific information. The syllabus states you have to learn X, Y and Z about Q, you'd want to be mentioning X,Y and Z. When they ask you for examples of things, you dont necessarily have to give the book's example of "Jesus in contemporary culture", I could just as easily mention an UnderOath song and back it up, and subsequently get full marks.

    A lot of people have dismissed it thinking it's all opinion related, it's really not! The SEC want information, your own personal engagement kinda comes secondary to that.

    If you do the work, it's a comparatively easy subject, but I dont really think that in the Leaving Cert itself there's that much room for bull**** (How your teacher grades things is bound to be different, as the whole grading thing is not open to applications yet, it is still chosen by whatever group wrote the syllabus AFAIK).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    Cheers guys:)

    Religion is tough as its the one subject that Im doing that I dont care about over 80 percent of the course...some of it is intresting though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    poisonated wrote: »
    Religion is tough as its the one subject that Im doing that I dont care about over 80 percent of the course...some of it is intresting though

    Maybe if you came to school for the last month/paid attention in class*...................:pac:



    *Yes, I know coming for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Fad wrote: »
    I really doubt that you could.

    I dont know you, or what you're into, but the SEC are looking for fairly specific information. The syllabus states you have to learn X, Y and Z about Q, you'd want to be mentioning X,Y and Z. When they ask you for examples of things, you dont necessarily have to give the book's example of "Jesus in contemporary culture", I could just as easily mention an UnderOath song and back it up, and subsequently get full marks.

    A lot of people have dismissed it thinking it's all opinion related, it's really not! The SEC want information, your own personal engagement kinda comes secondary to that.

    If you do the work, it's a comparatively easy subject, but I dont really think that in the Leaving Cert itself there's that much room for bull**** (How your teacher grades things is bound to be different, as the whole grading thing is not open to applications yet, it is still chosen by whatever group wrote the syllabus AFAIK).



    I took it up outside school a week before the mock, I got 4 hours of grinds 1 to 1 from the class teacher in my school and I got 85%.

    Anyone who has no exams left except religion has no real excuse not to do really well, just read the ****ing books. Its dead easy. Religion does not compare to classical studies or history for either length or detail.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I dare someone to write

    "as I am part of a cult, I can not discuss other religions beliefs or acknowledge them."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    its 70 euro to ad it to your LC now, but if you were up for the crack you could put down loads of details about how you honour the giant spagetti monster, but no one can see him because he is hidden behind jupiter ect ect ect


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Reilly616


    jimjam-06 wrote: »
    Shows how much you know about the subject. It's nothing like CSPE , it details the theology and philosophy of all ancient philosophers and modern religions. It's quite interesting and useful to know about religions in this modern age. It's interesting to those who like theology.

    So is it basically history and theology? Personally, I'm really interested in religion, but whenever we did it in school it was useless boring stuff similar to CSPE, not interesting facts figures and dates, if you know what I mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    History, Theology, Philosophy and Classical studies.

    Honestly mate if your not busy next week and your willing to fork out like 120 bills, pay to ad this to your list (Think you still can, not actually 100% sure).

    Study Scorates, Plato, Aristotle the Sophists.

    Study Judaism, Christianity and Buddism (Mainly the 4 stages of life, ie brith, coming of age, marriage, death, and the main holidays)

    Learn maybe two or three cases relevant to moral decision making, like times when life support should be switched off or things.

    And learn Darwin, Newton, Galileo.

    And you would have 80% in the bag, except I just forgot the coursework, so you would be ****ed. Shame...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Reilly616


    errlloyd wrote: »
    History, Theology, Philosophy and Classical studies.

    Honestly mate if your not busy next week and your willing to fork out like 120 bills, pay to ad this to your list (Think you still can, not actually 100% sure).

    Study Scorates, Plato, Aristotle the Sophists.

    Study Judaism, Christianity and Buddism (Mainly the 4 stages of life, ie brith, coming of age, marriage, death, and the main holidays)

    Learn maybe two or three cases relevant to moral decision making, like times when life support should be switched off or things.

    And learn Darwin, Newton, Galileo.

    And you would have 80% in the bag, except I just forgot the coursework, so you would be ****ed. Shame...

    Lol. I'm fine thanks :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 jimjam-06


    Reilly616 wrote: »
    So is it basically history and theology? Personally, I'm really interested in religion, but whenever we did it in school it was useless boring stuff similar to CSPE, not interesting facts figures and dates, if you know what I mean.

    I know, but you see exam religion is very different from non-exam religion, it is quite like history just with a lot of spiritual thought :) And it's true they want specific facts, but an a answer requires personal engagement and spiritual thought. It's like a mix of history and english.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    jimjam-06 wrote: »
    I know, but you see exam religion is very different from non-exam religion, it is quite like history just with a lot of spiritual thought :) And it's true they want specific facts, but an a answer requires personal engagement and spiritual thought. It's like a mix of history and english.

    I'd contest that! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 jimjam-06


    Fad wrote: »
    I'd contest that! :pac:

    On reflection it may have been an exaggeration :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Donagh_mc wrote: »
    Pressure from the Religious establishment in this country forced it in no doubt.
    Nope, more like pressure from teachers and students that if they were doing it anyway, it should be done right and be examinable.

    And the course is much broader than any one religion ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Yeah bitch, more than 2 billion people do it make it broader than christianity. Woot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Yeah bitch, more than 2 billion people do it make it broader than christianity. Woot.

    Whut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Well you said it was broader, I just decided to take it out of the context of education.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Well you said it was broader, I just decided to take it out of the context of education.

    I actually mentioned nothing about it being broader.

    I also still fail to see what your point is.

    Is there one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    And the course is much broader than any one religion ...


    Oh I'm sorry Fad, that even though my post wasn't directly after yours, you decided mine related directly to yours.

    Boom. And no their isn't really a point, just I thought saying RE was broader than any one religion sounded silly, because I wouldn't use the word broad in that context, what he was trying to say was RE encompasses (<- A word I don't understand) all religions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Oh I'm sorry Fad, that even though my post wasn't directly after yours, you decided mine related directly to yours.
    Well, when he said "whut?", your reponse commenced with "you said ...". That may just have confused him slightly! :p
    errlloyd wrote: »
    Boom. And no their isn't really a point, just I thought saying RE was broader than any one religion sounded silly, because I wouldn't use the word broad in that context, what he was trying to say was RE encompasses (<- A word I don't understand) all religions.
    I said the course (or curriculum, if you prefer) was broader than any one religion ... reasonable enough use of English I would have thought.

    Anyway, let's leave the knicks untwisted please, gentlemen, in this hot weather you'll only chafe yourself in delicate areas!! :pac: :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Twinkle-star15


    errlloyd wrote: »
    I took it up outside school a week before the mock, I got 4 hours of grinds 1 to 1 from the class teacher in my school and I got 85%.

    Anyone who has no exams left except religion has no real excuse not to do really well, just read the ****ing books. Its dead easy. Religion does not compare to classical studies or history for either length or detail.

    The RE and History courses are both long and detailed.
    The difference is the History exam layout is a lot more student-friendly: more choice, more time, it's not all essays.
    RE is 4 x 4 page essays, all to be written in 2 and a half hours. Even if you can remember everything, that's writing hella fast!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    The RE and History courses are both long and detailed.
    The difference is the History exam layout is a lot more student-friendly: more choice, more time, it's not all essays.
    RE is 4 x 4 page essays, all to be written in 2 and a half hours. Even if you can remember everything, that's writing hella fast!


    I think you're writing too much mate, I would go with 12, a page and a half for each of the 8 essays.

    (And I really liked the RE exam layout, you should try classical studies)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    errlloyd wrote: »
    I think you're writing too much mate, I would go with 12, a page and a half for each of the 8 essays.

    (And I really liked the RE exam layout, you should try classical studies)

    Hey are you doing primal religion & bahai faith


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    D.R cowboy wrote: »
    Hey are you doing primal religion & bahai faith

    Doing Primal, Yoruba

    I did Baha'i for my coursework too though. (Gwan organisation dedicated to maintaining world peace, they are such legends)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Doing Primal, Yoruba

    I did Baha'i for my coursework too though. (Gwan organisation dedicated to maintaining world peace, they are such legends)

    lifestyle of believers should be a good bet, and rites of passage too wat you think??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    D.R cowboy wrote: »
    lifestyle of believers should be a good bet, and rites of passage too wat you think??


    I'd like to say I know, but I really don't. I'll do out the tables and get back to you tomorrow. I know my teacher focussed on the stages of the religion and the rite of passage as well as the creation myths.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Alright ladies, profiling the human person is looking good for world religions. As well as possibly the stages (birth coming of age marriage and death).

    Moral decision making, know how the common good is expressed in Irish Civil Law.

    Religion and Science, just know the people involved, Galieo, Newton, Darwin. Be careful studying Darwin if your not already Atheist, because suddenly you will realise that most religion is a big stinking pile of elephant dung.

    Good luck gentlemen, may God be with you... This may help...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Duffman'05


    I'd just like to say thank you for that post:p

    This brightened up an otherwise horrible day for this poor soul who was foolish enough to take Religon for LC:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    Duffman what you studying for section 1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Oh lads there are more to come, make sure you know the creation myth,

    Prometheus, Giglimesh and Native American.


    Hmm this may help some of you with the Bible (it helped me to appreciate Jesus when I realised he wasn't anti sex)


    Oh and if you're bored, read about the Giant Spegetti Monster, cause I am pastafarian.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Duffman'05


    D.R cowboy wrote: »
    Duffman what you studying for section 1

    Socrates, Plato and the Sophists...Our teacher never did anything else with us!:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    Guys what the real chance of seeing Darwin 2morrow HA Ha coz that all i have real studied for section j

    That ****ing moral decision making is **** hard to predict right one could say common good but what about sin and forgiveness

    Also primal religion have come up in 2006


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Darwin was born in 1809, its 2009. You do the maths


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭lorna100


    is darwin on the syllabus in search for meaning and values? remember seeing him in the book somewhere (not in the religion vs science part, not doing it).

    Not looking foward to writing so much, hopefully it wont be as bad as classics, hand was killing me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭D.R cowboy


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Darwin was born in 1809, its 2009. You do the maths

    And your point is what may i say??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    lorna100 wrote: »
    is darwin on the syllabus in search for meaning and values? remember seeing him in the book somewhere (not in the religion vs science part, not doing it).

    Not looking foward to writing so much, hopefully it wont be as bad as classics, hand was killing me!

    99.463% sure he is only in religion and science. Newton is all over the Search for Meaning and values though.

    (Lorna your classics predictions were a bit sketch...)

    I dunno what my point about Darwin is, 200 years though. I think he will come up!!


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