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Dubs overhyped

  • 07-06-2009 9:01pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭


    every year they're touted as bein in the mix for an all ireland! like i was listenin to the news and someone said they'll have to pick up if they want to win the all ireland. How can they be even thought of as all ireland winners. when have they proven their credentials? Just because they are the most supported team in ireland being the capital an' all they are good? No! In my opinion they are average and any average team could beat them on their day. Monaghan, Galway, Armagh, Fermanagh, Laois, Donaegal would beat them at least 4/10 times but a real team would beat these teams 9 times out of ten. No word of monaghan or galway winning sam!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 804 ✭✭✭yerayeah


    Monaghan have about as much chance of winning Leinster as winning an AI!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭hello_there_jim


    im talkin bout the all ireland!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 804 ✭✭✭yerayeah


    I know! They're way too limited to win an all ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭lukin


    every year they're touted as bein in the mix for an all ireland! like i was listenin to the news and someone said they'll have to pick up if they want to win the all ireland. How can they be even thought of as all ireland winners. when have they proven their credentials? Just because they are the most supported team in ireland being the capital an' all they are good? No! In my opinion they are average and any average team could beat them on their day. Monaghan, Galway, Armagh, Fermanagh, Laois, Donaegal would beat them at least 4/10 times but a real team would beat these teams 9 times out of ten. No word of monaghan or galway winning sam!

    Just typical Dub media bias. Sure most of the journos live there so they are all Dub supporters anyway. As for RTE, it might as well be called Radio Telefís Dublin!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭hello_there_jim


    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    hahahahahahahahhah


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    lukin wrote: »
    Just typical Dub media bias. Sure most of the journos live there so they are all Dub supporters anyway. As for RTE, it might as well be called Radio Telefís Dublin!

    Yes, they live there, but they are not from there. If you are from any of other 31 counties and move to Dublin, you will still support your own county, probably even more so. Dublin get a lot of coverage, but it isn't always positive. All of us Dubs that were there today will know there shouldn't be too much positive out of it. The papers tomorrow and the television tonight and tomorrow won't be heaping praise on Dublin. I am watching the Sunday game as I type and Dublin are not getting much positive coverage, and rightly so. They were not good today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭hello_there_jim


    Flukey wrote: »
    Yes, they live there, but they are not from there. If you are from any of other 31 counties and move to Dublin, you will still support your own county, probably even more so. Dublin get a lot of coverage, but it isn't always positive. All of us Dubs that were there today will know there shouldn't be too much positive out of it. The papers tomorrow and the television tonight and tomorrow won't be heaping praise on Dublin. I am watching the Sunday game as I type and Dublin are not getting much positive coverage, and rightly so. They were not good today.

    true but its only right!

    they'll still probablt mention that hey'll have to buck up if they want to win sam!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    every year they're touted as bein in the mix for an all ireland! like i was listenin to the news and someone said they'll have to pick up if they want to win the all ireland. How can they be even thought of as all ireland winners. when have they proven their credentials? Just because they are the most supported team in ireland being the capital an' all they are good? No! In my opinion they are average and any average team could beat them on their day. Monaghan, Galway, Armagh, Fermanagh, Laois, Donaegal would beat them at least 4/10 times but a real team would beat these teams 9 times out of ten. No word of monaghan or galway winning sam!

    Particularly in the last 4 years Dublin were touted as potential all Ireland winners. There was a simple reason for this. They were quite good for the last 4 years. They were pretty close for several of the years.

    Now they are not really good. The new manager has disrupted the set up and made a balls of it. Dublin can still win Leinster, but have no chance for the AI, unlike the previous 4 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭hello_there_jim


    and surely playing in croke park is unfair? why not play in parnell park as they have a massive home crowd otherwise, albeit theres more money and more people get to see games and the stadium is used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    they'll still probablt mention that hey'll have to buck up if they want to win sam!

    Them, and 31 other counties. It is early June. No team is good enough to win it yet. They didn't look as good today as they did in the past 4 years, but we are comparing June form with August form. They are a different thing altogether. All counties will improve. Dublin may not win the All-Ireland this year, but they will put up better performances than they did today. It is the best of those performances that have to compared against the last 4 years. We've not looked so great in the past few years in June either.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭hello_there_jim


    not every team has aspirations of winning sam!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 804 ✭✭✭yerayeah


    and surely playing in croke park is unfair? why not play in parnell park as they have a massive home crowd otherwise, albeit theres more money and more people get to see games and the stadium is used.
    Since they consistently bring big numbers to Croke park I'd take no issue with that. The hype and pressure does them no favours, they always seem to struggle with it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    Not every team has aspirations of winning sam!

    So, do you think that if you went up to a player from one of the weaker counties that we know won't have a chance of winning the Sam Maguire this year and asked them "Would you like to win an All-Ireland medal?", that he'd answer "No."? Obviously not. They may not have much chance of doing so, but every single county should have aspirations of winning Sam. If any player did answer "No" to that question, well he shouldn't be on the panel. You go into every match attempting and wanting and intending to win. If you keep doing it, you'll find yourself on the steps of the Hogan Stand in September with a certain large trophy. You don't go into any match saying "Well, we won't try to win this one." Therefore you have aspirations of winning an All-Ireland title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    Particularly in the last 4 years Dublin were touted as potential all Ireland winners. There was a simple reason for this. They were quite good for the last 4 years. They were pretty close for several of the years.

    Now they are not really good. The new manager has disrupted the set up and made a balls of it. Dublin can still win Leinster, but have no chance for the AI, unlike the previous 4 years.[/quote

    Agree with the first part of your post, Dublin had 1 poor performance in each of the last 4 years and it cost them dearly.

    I think we need to give Gilroy a chance. The positives as I see it are he is giving plenty of players a chance and the panel may benifit from this as we move on. Ryan and Whelan need a break. Brennan and Flynn need football so possibly it was a risk worth taking. Next to be dropped should be Keaney, the amount of times he has cost us and again today with stupid shot selection and being overly selfish with the ball.

    HELLO THERE JIM, you awake?:)

    The G.A.A needs Dublin in Croke Pk. If they had triple header of games they would not fill it. I have no problem playing outside Dublin. Great days out in Navan, Portlaois, Tullamore and Thurles but Thurles is the only place that can cater the Dublin supporters.
    As for the other counties you mentioned, I think Galway are the only side who would beat Dublin.
    This is the time of year people start dubs bashing. No problem. I think people like you are just a bit jealous of what we have. We dont need people jumping on a supporters bandwagon and they should'nt anyway. They should be proud to support their own. But when they all go anti-Dublin its a bit sickening, its even more sickening when they appear on T.V and Radio.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    LeoB wrote: »
    Particularly in the last 4 years Dublin were touted as potential all Ireland winners. There was a simple reason for this. They were quite good for the last 4 years. They were pretty close for several of the years.

    Now they are not really good. The new manager has disrupted the set up and made a balls of it. Dublin can still win Leinster, but have no chance for the AI, unlike the previous 4 years.[/quote

    Agree with the first part of your post, Dublin had 1 poor performance in each of the last 4 years and it cost them dearly.

    I think we need to give Gilroy a chance. The positives as I see it are he is giving plenty of players a chance and the panel may benifit from this as we move on. Ryan and Whelan need a break. Brennan and Flynn need football so possibly it was a risk worth taking. Next to be dropped should be Keaney, the amount of times he has cost us and again today with stupid shot selection and being overly selfish with the ball.

    HELLO THERE JIM, you awake?:)

    The G.A.A needs Dublin in Croke Pk. If they had triple header of games they would not fill it. I have no problem playing outside Dublin. Great days out in Navan, Portlaois, Tullamore and Thurles but Thurles is the only place that can cater the Dublin supporters.
    As for the other counties you mentioned, I think Galway are the only side who would beat Dublin.
    This is the time of year people start dubs bashing. No problem. I think people like you are just a bit jealous of what we have. We dont need people jumping on a supporters bandwagon and they should'nt anyway. They should be proud to support their own. But when they all go anti-Dublin its a bit sickening, its even more sickening when they appear on T.V and Radio.

    how do you know? :D
    Not every team has aspirations of winning sam

    being able to win sam and wanting to win sam are two completely different things!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    and surely playing in croke park is unfair? why not play in parnell park as they have a massive home crowd otherwise, albeit theres more money and more people get to see games and the stadium is used.

    If they play in Croke Park they have a zero home crowd. Parnell Park, not Croke Park, is Dublin's home ground. Croke Park is a neutral ground for Dublin. People always talk about it as being an advantage to them. Let me remind you that they have not won an All-Ireland since 1995, and in those years have on nearly every occasion being knocked out of the championship in Croke Park. Some advantage, isn't it? When teams come to Croke Park to play Dublin, it is those teams that get the bigger impetus from it. What bigger incentive can a team get than to play Dublin in Croke Park? Even outside of that, there are plenty of counties that feel very much at home in Croke Park, so whatever advantage Dublin may have there, it is no bigger than many of the other teams who play regularly there. There aren't many counties that don't like playing in Croke Park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    mink_man wrote: »
    LeoB wrote: »

    being able to win sam and wanting to win sam are two completely different things!

    Well spotted, but I believe every county should set out to win it. If not why bother training and putting in the effort? You see very few counties go to lengths Kerry, Cork, Galway, Tyrone or Dublin go thats why there are expectations. Dont believe all the crap you hear about players from some counties training as hard as players from others, the fact is they dont. They go for their pints, dont eat properly, go to nitclubs and miss some training sessions.

    What is this "how do you know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    oh nothin leoB,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    Yay Dublin bashing. Summer must finally be here.

    //goes and gets hammer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    Sweet jesus it begins, if you post anything about Dublin you must either be a dub basher or pro dublin. What about having an opinion?

    TBH over the last few years Dublin have been well worth their victories in Leinster, but have not been good enough to win the All Ireland. Their best chance and probably the closest that they have come was in 2007 IMO, they gave their best against Kerry and just were not good enough.

    As for the Dubs being overhyped, newspapers want more readers, radio stations want more listeners and TV stations want more viewers. They do what they need to reach a wider audience, if you do not like it do not read, listen or watch. If enough people did this then maybe they would produce a different story.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Sweet jesus it begins, if you post anything about Dublin you must either be a dub basher or pro dublin. What about having an opinion?

    TBH over the last few years Dublin have been well worth their victories in Leinster, but have not been good enough to win the All Ireland. Their best chance and probably the closest that they have come was in 2007 IMO, they gave their best against Kerry and just were not good enough.

    As for the Dubs being overhyped, newspapers want more readers, radio stations want more listeners and TV stations want more viewers. They do what they need to reach a wider audience, if you do not like it do not read, listen or watch. If enough people did this then maybe they would produce a different story.
    100% agree.
    The fact is the dubs have the largest number of supporters. The media aim at that market. The only ones overhyping them are the media.
    The've done okay the past few years, not the teams fault that a lot is expected of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    As a Dub myself i could see from my seat in Upper Cusack today that yes, Dublin DO need work, i think thats a given concensus...but they done really well in the hurling against Antrim, nice margin to win by, and some good skill to be seen. In the football, they really could have done without 19 wides, put the chances for goal in the net, and less harder than needed tackles...that yellow should have been a red and he knows it too...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    CRUISERWEIGHT, Its the negative bashing. Moaning and bemoaning. You being a Wexford supporter should be more aware of this if you cast your mind back to the way say Liam Dunne got treated as a result of clowns on R.T.E while their own counties got away with murder.

    Its fine to have an opinion and its great to have a place like boards where you can voice it but when media start on a roll against anyone that player or county invaribly starts to pop up a ccc meeting in Croke Pk.. A few comments from Brolly, Farrell, Finnerty or Davis is easily picked up by a hack who does not have the brain to write a decent article and bingo it starts again. I would say within the next month about 4 or 5 players will suffer as a result of this. I dont think its right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭youcrazyjesus!


    To the OP: the only people on this island who talk about Dublin being all Ireland contenders and include the words "Dublin" and "hype" in the same sentence are bitter, petty minded inbreds with an inferiority complex. Grow up for ****s sake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    As Ciaran Whelan stated after the loss to Tyrone last year, "We can't blame pressure,when we win it's overhyped,when we lose it's overhyped.It's just part and parcel of being a Dublin footballer."

    If there is one good thing to come out of today's performance is that there won't be any columnists writing about how Dublin look on course to take Sam.There is part of me that is really happy that the hype won't start yet.

    Pridefighter,I have to disagree with you.Gilroy has not disrupted the Dublin panel.It is fair to say that change is needed and that the younger players need to be blooded into the panel now rather than asking them to fill big shoes of the experienced players that will retire.We got a win with a new look team today and in actual fact I think it was the more experienced players that let down the younger players by playing atrociously.

    Back on topic though,Dublin won't get a 7 page pullout in th Independent tomorrow and all columnests such as Brehony and the like will have a field day telling us Dubs what we already know.Then you might have Eugene McGee selling this Dublin team off as a snake in the grass for Tyrone and Kerry.

    Meanwhile,the papers have selected a new pet project to sell their papers to large audience.That comes in the form of th Cork footballers who are favourites to break Tyrone and Kerry's grasp on Sam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Oh dear, another Summer and another Dublin/hype thread. And below, we have a perfect example of what we don't want to be seeing again on this forum.
    To the OP: the only people on this island who talk about Dublin being all Ireland contenders and include the words "Dublin" and "hype" in the same sentence are bitter, petty minded inbreds with an inferiority complex. Grow up for ****s sake.

    youcrazyjesus, we have a general rule on boards of 'attack the post, not the poster.' Try to remember this in future.

    Oh, that post earned you an infraction and I see from your profile, it isn't your first.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 235 ✭✭Mullet


    lukin wrote: »
    Just typical Dub media bias. Sure most of the journos live there so they are all Dub supporters anyway. As for RTE, it might as well be called Radio Telefís Dublin!

    This is simply not true., Why don't you check were all the gaa "dublin based media" are from, you will be surprised to know that most of them are from outside of dublin. I have said it for years they build us up to be better then we are and then knock us at every opportunity.

    They build us up in the national dailys and slag us off in their provicial papers. That is why i dont read any of the nonsense they write.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    I was almost disappointed i stayed up till 3am to watch the game on the net. And why do people seem to think that Dublin get so much positive reviews? They are criticized a lot. Especially by the other 31 counties. So if someone from Dublin speaks favorably of them why should they not be entitled to? We need some balance since the rest of the country hates us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭John The Bad


    LeoB wrote: »
    mink_man wrote: »

    Dont believe all the crap you hear about players from some counties training as hard as players from others, the fact is they dont. They go for their pints, dont eat properly, go to nitclubs and miss some training sessions.

    What is this "how do you know?

    I want an example, a proven example of this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭John The Bad


    As a culchie, I'll say this -- culchies need to get off Dublin's back, for the sake of the genuine Dublin GAA fan (especially they ones who go to NFL matches), culchies need to understand that the Dublin players and genuine fans don't enjoy the hype and pressure landed on Dublin, culchies need realise that this is all a question of population (Dublin has the bigger population, buys the most newspapers, thus generates the bigger buzz) and culchies need admit that Dublin brings a lot of fun and colour to the Championship.

    As for the Dubs -- Dubs need understand what it's like for the rest of us to hear Dublin mentioned as possible AI contenders at the start of every year, Dubs need to realise that not all Dublin-bashing is based on jealousy (I ask you, what's there to be jealous off) and Dubs need admit that their team is an average outfit at the minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭spear thrower


    and surely playing in croke park is unfair? why not play in parnell park as they have a massive home crowd otherwise, albeit theres more money and more people get to see games and the stadium is used.


    Are you Joking me if The GAA were to play Dubs games in Parnell they would lose thousands..

    Parnell Pk average tic price €15 x 10,000 supporters = €150,000
    Croke Pk average tic price €30 x 80,000 supporters = €2,400,000

    It would be madness to host Dubs games in Parnell..

    Regarding yeaterdays game i am a completely heart broken at our display.. Mc Connell, Flynn, Bastick, Hubbard, B Brogan, Davoren etc were well below Championship standard..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭John The Bad


    Are you Joking me if The GAA were to play Dubs games in Parnell they would lose thousands..

    Parnell Pk average tic price €15 x 10,000 supporters = €150,000
    Croke Pk average tic price €30 x 80,000 supporters = €2,400,000

    It would be madness to host Dubs games in Parnell..

    Regarding yeaterdays game i am a completely heart broken at our display.. Mc Connell, Flynn, Bastick, Hubbard, B Brogan, Davoren etc were well below Championship standard..

    I agree -- it'd be crazy to play Dublin championship matches in Parnell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Dublin are a pile of s*** simple as that....

    lets talk about teams who might actually win the all-ireland and put Dublin in same bracket as teams like Sligo. No chance of all-ireland

    Now close this thread:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭Drummerboy2


    The journalists who write in the Nationals are mostly country men. And it is them that hype up Dublin all the time. Ask the genuine fans how they rate the current Dublin teams and most of them will tell you that they are probably ranked between 5-8 in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,360 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    One thing Dublin are and that is consistent. 17 freaking wides yesterday:)

    I don't know how some fans don't get tired supporting
    that crap!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 253 ✭✭Marse


    Are you Joking me if The GAA were to play Dubs games in Parnell they would lose thousands..

    Parnell Pk average tic price €15 x 10,000 supporters = €150,000
    Croke Pk average tic price €30 x 80,000 supporters = €2,400,000

    It would be madness to host Dubs games in Parnell..

    Regarding yeaterdays game i am a completely heart broken at our display.. Mc Connell, Flynn, Bastick, Hubbard, B Brogan, Davoren etc were well below Championship standard..


    I thought Davoren did alright!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    every year they're touted as bein in the mix for an all ireland! like i was listenin to the news and someone said they'll have to pick up if they want to win the all ireland. How can they be even thought of as all ireland winners. when have they proven their credentials?

    I'm not aware of anyone 'overhyping' Dublin at the moment. You seem to have invented this idea yourself for the sake of attacking it. Most Dublin supporters I know, and I spoke to a few after the game yesterday, accept that Dublin would need to improve significantly to be All-Ireland contenders. This is actually a very good thing for Gilroy and his panel as it will take a bit of the pressure off them.


    Monaghan, Galway, Armagh, Fermanagh, Laois, Donaegal would beat them at least 4/10 times but a real team would beat these teams 9 times out of ten. No word of monaghan or galway winning sam!

    Fermanagh and Laois? I don't think Dublin would have alot to fear from either of those teams. Fermanagh have no forwards and Laois have gone backwards over the last couple of years. Have you been watching any football at all?

    Dublin are in the chasing group, along with the likes of Cork, Galway, Derry, Mayo etc Simple as that. They probably won't win it this year but apart from Tyrone and Kerry I'd say they have as much chance as most.

    They were poor enough yesterday but they won, and that will do for now.

    BTW, who are these 'real' teams you refer to? Galway are cuurently in the top 5 or 6 yet you dismiss them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    hes from galway cos im him!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    I'm not aware of anyone 'overhyping' Dublin at the moment. You seem to have invented this idea yourself for the sake of attacking it.

    A great summary of what is going on in this thread.

    Can somebody actually point me to a link where anybody credible at all has touted Dublin as probable, or even possible, AI winners this year?

    The fcuking hype is being overhyped now, do people really have nothing better to do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    LeoB wrote: »
    This is the time of year people start dubs bashing. No problem. I think people like you are just a bit jealous of what we have. We dont need people jumping on a supporters bandwagon and they should'nt anyway. They should be proud to support their own. But when they all go anti-Dublin its a bit sickening, its even more sickening when they appear on T.V and Radio.

    LOL jealous of what exactly?? Mediocrity:confused: Plenty of that around.

    And btw bandwagon supporters will generally jump on a successfull team, id say yer safe enough there :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    LOL jealous of what exactly?? Mediocrity:confused: Plenty of that around.

    And btw bandwagon supporters will generally jump on a successfull team, id say yer safe enough there :D

    What sort of reaction are you looking for with this post? Are you hoping someone will get themselves banned for losing the rag with you or something?

    Bad form imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Personally I think the Sunday Game was overly critical of them.

    They are a team in transition and that needs to be remembered. They deserved the hype last year based on 2007, but Tyrone came out of nowhere and blew all that away. The standard was raised again by Tyrone and that Dublin team had gone as far as it could.

    A Leinster title and a reasonable performance against the Top 3 would be a good season for them this year.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    People always do one of 2 things, decide the Dubs are sh*te, no better than the weaker teams, not a chance of winning Sam, or they decide like our lovely journalists that we are on the verge of an AI. The truth is, Dublin are a bit behind the top teams in the country. For Dublin to beat teams like Tyrone, Kerry they need to have a great day when the opposition are below par and no Dub would disagree with that. We are in the same boat as the Galways and Corks in my opinion which is below the top teams but battling to equal them. We are in a transition period now so we wont be looking to knock anyone of their perch this year but hopefully in a year or so we can get back in the mix. To say Dublin havent had a chance of winning Sam in the last 4 years is blinkered imo. Say even in the last 6 or so years, how many times have Dublin lost to the eventual champions?? Again, were simply up against better opposition but on a good day with a bit of luck it was certainly possible.

    Original topic anyway, are we overhyped? Absolutely and i think its a major factor in our sub par performances against top opposition. I wouldnt say that the fans or the players believe the hype but it piles pressure on the players. Remember as others have said, who is hyping us? Certainly not the fans. Few are blind to the facts but most can see we are not the best in the country by quite a margin right now. Its people looking to sell their papers etc to the biggest market in the country. So for the arguement about the hype, you are right. Just a pity every single thread about the Dubs ends in a slagging match about things that have nothing to do with the original topic.


    PS. think this is the longest post i ever made here! Hope its not the most non-sensicle! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭corny


    If Dublin play to their best only Kerry and Tyrone would outplay us. I'm not saying we'd beat everyone else or we're better than everyone else just no reason to fear the rest IMO.

    Gilroy needs to do some work alright but i can't remember the last time Dublin were impressive first time out in the championship so i wouldn't talk them up or write them off at this stage. Certainly should win Leinster by default and after that a favourable draw and a bit of luck you never know;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    corny wrote: »
    If Dublin play to their best only Kerry and Tyrone would outplay us. I'm not saying we'd beat everyone else or we're better than everyone else just no reason to fear the rest IMO.

    TBF IMO Cork at their best would be far too good as well.

    Cork have been extremely unlucky in recent times to be as underrated as they have been. The fact is if they'd been knocked out of the championship in recent years by anyone other than Kerry it would have been Tyrone.

    They are lightyears ahead of the chasing pack imo and are VERY close, if not equal, to Kerry and Tyrone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭murrayp4


    Same bull from the Hearld/FM104 types every year...blah blah blah.
    I remember the 2006 semi, 104 were running a competition for tickets "to go and see Dublin thrash Mayo"

    Good God that was sweetness.:P

    (what happened after, we shall not discuss...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭John The Bad


    Nalced_irl wrote: »
    People always do one of 2 things, decide the Dubs are sh*te, no better than the weaker teams, not a chance of winning Sam, or they decide like our lovely journalists that we are on the verge of an AI. The truth is, Dublin are a bit behind the top teams in the country. For Dublin to beat teams like Tyrone, Kerry they need to have a great day when the opposition are below par and no Dub would disagree with that. We are in the same boat as the Galways and Corks in my opinion which is below the top teams but battling to equal them. We are in a transition period now so we wont be looking to knock anyone of their perch this year but hopefully in a year or so we can get back in the mix. To say Dublin havent had a chance of winning Sam in the last 4 years is blinkered imo. Say even in the last 6 or so years, how many times have Dublin lost to the eventual champions?? Again, were simply up against better opposition but on a good day with a bit of luck it was certainly possible.

    Original topic anyway, are we overhyped? Absolutely and i think its a major factor in our sub par performances against top opposition. I wouldnt say that the fans or the players believe the hype but it piles pressure on the players. Remember as others have said, who is hyping us? Certainly not the fans. Few are blind to the facts but most can see we are not the best in the country by quite a margin right now. Its people looking to sell their papers etc to the biggest market in the country. So for the arguement about the hype, you are right. Just a pity every single thread about the Dubs ends in a slagging match about things that have nothing to do with the original topic.


    PS. think this is the longest post i ever made here! Hope its not the most non-sensicle! :D

    Spot on post.

    I honestly think Dub fans should tell the Evening Herald to stop the ****e talk on the run up to Dublin matches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭corny


    keane2097 wrote: »
    They are lightyears ahead of the chasing pack imo and are VERY close, if not equal, to Kerry and Tyrone.

    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    corny wrote: »
    :eek:

    Can I assume your towering intellect is displayed fully in this post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    LOL jealous of what exactly?? Mediocrity:confused: Plenty of that around.

    And btw bandwagon supporters will generally jump on a successfull team, id say yer safe enough there :D

    So how mant titles have your county won this past 4 years?
    Most counties are envieous of what Dublin can generate even with the huge pull from other sports in and around Dublin city and county. BTW Dublin are a succesful side. Ok we dont win many All-Irelands but we are in the shake up

    As for the Bandwagon supporters there is probably enough to say in a thread all on its own about them. Which I will start when we reach the point where we will be hearing the complaints of the loyal supporters who cant get tickets or if you want to start it, great.
    Its fair to say at the moment we have a chance of winning Leinster and after that a lot will depend on the day. Dublin are well capable of beating Kerry and Tyrone as are Cork. Kerry and Tyrone would fancy their chances against Dublin but take away last years collapse and Dublin are closer than most give them credit for.
    I actually think last Sunday could could have been a blessing for Dublin as the panel will have gained a lot of experience from the day. When did Dublin last field such an inexperienced team in Cship? Gilroy has a lot to work with and I think will be happy enough.


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