Nokia N900

towel401

The word on the street is that this yoke will be out soon. Much like the other 2 internet tablets but can be used as a phone

This is not all that different to the N97 except it might be a slightly more serious version (N97 is more for the Media/Social networking/Arty Farty/Expensive coffee types) and will run Maemo 5 rather than Symbian. hopefully a proper SIP client and a real email client rather than Nokia Messaging's 'man in the middle' service

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/05/24/exclusive-everything-there-is-to-know-about-nokias-next-tablet/

Random

First look at the photo - christ it looks like a brick!

Further thoughts as I read the article ...
- Ok, so the photo is only a mock one .. that's fine .. let's hope the actual one has a bit of style to it.
- 5 meg camera always a plus, as is GPS
- Don't know much about Maemo 5 really so can't comment ..

MEh . ... no more thoughts really until I read more details.

Rsaeire

The main objection I had to Nokia's previous Internet devices, i.e. the N700, N800 etc, was the fact that the devices relied on Wi-Fi for their access to the Internet. Thankfully this new model resolves that issue by allowing a sim card to be used, so Internet availability is greatly enhanced.

I don't know whether the N97 will eat into the N900's sales, but it will be interesting to see how the two devices co-exist and which will be the more popular amongst users.

towel401

Rsaeire wrote: »

The main objection I had to Nokia's previous Internet devices, i.e. the N700, N800 etc, was the fact that the devices relied on Wi-Fi for their access to the Internet. Thankfully this new model resolves that issue by allowing a sim card to be used, so Internet availability is greatly enhanced.

I don't know whether the N97 will eat into the N900's sales, but it will be interesting to see how the two devices co-exist and which will be the more popular amongst users.

i'd say the N900 will still be more of a specialist device while the N97 will remain the flagship. the N97 is very integrated with their own services and stuff. the N900 is a more open system. hopefully it won't be too expensive. not more than the N97 anyway

Rsaeire

towel401 wrote: »

i'd say the N900 will still be more of a specialist device while the N97 will remain the flagship. the N97 is very integrated with their own services and stuff. the N900 is a more open system. hopefully it won't be too expensive. not more than the N97 anyway

Given the supposed specs, I can't see how the N900 won't cost more than the N97.

towel401

Rsaeire wrote: »

Given the supposed specs, I can't see how the N900 won't cost more than the N97.

damn. hope it won't be too much

Davy

Plenty of pics of a prototype: http://www.mobilebulgaria.com/news/view.php?id=13251

Dankoozy

Davy wrote: »

Plenty of pics of a prototype: http://www.mobilebulgaria.com/news/view.php?id=13251

if that thing is real its pretty cool.

better Polish up on my Pycnn

Rsaeire

I saw that image yesterday. A 3 line keyboard doesn't sound too appealing and what is with the design? I know the form factor doesn't allow for drastic design changes, but it looks just like the previous Nokia Internet devices and a lot of HTC devices from over the years.

Dankoozy

Rsaeire wrote: »

I saw that image yesterday. A 3 line keyboard doesn't sound too appealing and what is with the design? I know the form factor doesn't allow for drastic design changes, but it looks just like the previous Nokia Internet devices and a lot of HTC devices from over the years.

It runs linux, dude it will be awsoem

long_b

Full specs now available on all about symbian
Www.bit.ly/WUCio

Elessar

Seems like Nokia is moving in the right direction.

Faster processor, more RAM, modern OS, graphics support. It'll be interesting to see this in the flesh.

Pity their design department can't make a decent looking phone for the N900 tho.

CyberGhost

It STILL uses a resistive screen with no multitouch = no buy.

And from the demonstration videos, it was not smooth at all, it was very jerky and lagging, typical of Nokia.

long_b

CyberGhost wrote: »

And from the demonstration videos, it was not smooth at all, it was very jerky and lagging, typical of Nokia.

Give them a chance mate, it's still a prototype afaik.

Alanstrainor

But knowing nokia these days they'll release it will tones of bugs and take months to fix them. It's a shame really. Although i still want one!

Elessar

Considering the similarities between this and their current flagship, they'll seriously have to drop the price of the N97 to a more reasonable level. The N97 is still more expensive than this N900!

CyberGhost

long_b wrote: »

Give them a chance mate, it's still a prototype afaik.

OK, I'll give them a chance on the software side, but the physical side won't be changed, unfortunately.

Size comparison.

Thor

i have to say from first impressions that this looks like it will replace my n97.

currently the n97 was a let down from launch but i'd say after a few months from now it might begin to pick up as do other phones.

from the look at the specs of the n900, i can't see anything to complain about.

i know some people hate resistive touch screens but the fact remains capcitive touch screens do have there limits aswell. also using resistive touch screens aswell for the use of a stylus.

the processor and ram in this are extremely high in my books considering the limits of the n97(128mb what were they thinking!!!)

also pretty much everything from the n97 is making its way over except its down points and high price tag(which is a thumbs up in my eyes)

obviously its too early to comment on just how good maemo will be on this as its a first for a nokia phone(tablet phone aswell)

i will however say that the os looks amzing from the screenshots, to say the least it will look better the symbian.

all my points can be considered moot if you take into the fact that n97 software was a heep of crap when it came out, but lets remember that this isnt going to be a simple s60 phone and all they did with the n97 was just the 5800 firmware as a base plate for the n97

here they have no before and are working hard from the begining and i admire them from that.

i will however be selling my n97 for this(anyone interested).

Alanstrainor

Thor wrote: »

i have to say from first impressions that this looks like it will replace my n97.

currently the n97 was a let down from launch but i'd say after a few months from now it might begin to pick up as do other phones.

from the look at the specs of the n900, i can't see anything to complain about.

i know some people hate resistive touch screens but the fact remains capcitive touch screens do have there limits aswell. also using resistive touch screens aswell for the use of a stylus.

the processor and ram in this are extremely high in my books considering the limits of the n97(128mb what were they thinking!!!)

also pretty much everything from the n97 is making its way over except its down points and high price tag(which is a thumbs up in my eyes)

obviously its too early to comment on just how good maemo will be on this as its a first for a nokia phone(tablet phone aswell)

i will however say that the os looks amzing from the screenshots, to say the least it will look better the symbian.

all my points can be considered moot if you take into the fact that n97 software was a heep of crap when it came out, but lets remember that this isnt going to be a simple s60 phone and all they did with the n97 was just the 5800 firmware as a base plate for the n97

here they have no before and are working hard from the begining and i admire them from that.

i will however be selling my n97 for this(anyone interested).

But the Maemo OS was used on their previous internet tablets, so i would presume they are building on that. But either way, the spec of this thing seems fantastic, i want a "do everything" device, or at least one that will get me online and view full web pages with flash, music player. And thus far, although it's a decent phone, my 5800 just doesn't cut it. The web browser simply crashes too often.

Thor

Alanstrainor wrote: »

But the Maemo OS was used on their previous internet tablets, so i would presume they are building on that. But either way, the spec of this thing seems fantastic, i want a "do everything" device, or at least one that will get me online and view full web pages with flash, music player. And thus far, although it's a decent phone, my 5800 just doesn't cut it. The web browser simply crashes too often.

yeah but its the first time it will be used for a phone and thta means it will be a much bigger range of people getting this(speculation)

although i agree it does look amazing and it better preform well or i will hunt nokia down!!!!

Stuxnet

looks sweet, and linux based,
jaw dropingly good video:

http://maemo.nokia.com/

Tom Dunne

As much as I despise the phrase, could this finally be the ultimate iPhone killer?

It seems to be everything the N97 should have been.

From what I have seen on those videos, I am impressed. Plus, crazy thing, it has Flash 9.4.That opens up a lot of avenues closed to the iPhone.

I for one will be watching this device quite carefully.

Thor

for this who want the full specs

http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/specifications/

Display•3.5 inch touch-sensitive widescreen display
•800 × 480 pixel resolution
Language supportBritish English, American English, Canadian French, Czech, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, Latin American Spanish, Swedish, Russian

Connectivity•3.5mm AV connector
•TV out (PAL/NTSC) with Nokia Video Connectivity Cable
•Micro-USB connector, High-Speed USB 2.0
•Bluetooth v2.1 including support for stereo headsets
•Integrated FM transmitter
•Integrated GPS with A-GPS
BatteryBL-5J 1320mAh

Processor and 3D acceleratorTI OMAP 3430: ARM Cortex-A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX with OpenGL ES 2.0 support

MemoryUp to 1GB of application memory (256 MB RAM, 768 MB virtual memory)

Size and weightVolume:Approx 113ccDimensions:110.9 × 59.8 × 18 (19.55 at thickest part) mmWeight:Approx 181gMass memory•32 GB internal storage
•Store up to 7000 MP3 songs or 40 hours of high-quality video
•Up to 16 GB of additional storage with an external microSD card
Keys and input method•Full QWERTY tactile keyboard
•Full QWERTY onscreen keyboard
ColourBlack

Operating frequency•Quad-band GSM EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
•WCDMA 900/1700/2100 MHz
Data networkGPRS class A, multislot class 32, maximum speed 107/64.2 kbps (DL/UL) EDGE class A, multislot class 32, maximum speed 296/177.6 kbps (DL/UL) WCDMA 900/1700/2100. Maximum speed PS 384/384 kbps (DL/UL) HSPA 900/1700/2100. Maximum speed PS 10/2 Mbps (DL/UL) WLAN IEEE 802.11b/g

Call features•Integrated hands-free stereo speakers
•Call waiting, call hold, call divert
•Call timer
•Logging of dialed, received and missed calls
•Speed dialing via contact widget
•Virbrating alert (internal)
•Side volume keys
•Mute/unmute
•Contacts with images
•Conference calling with up to 3 participants
•Internet calling
Email & Messaging•Supported protocols: Mail for Exchange, IMAP, POP3, SMTP
•Support for email attachments
•Support for rich HTML
•SMS and Instant Messages as conversations
•Support for Nokia Messaging service
•Instant messaging and presence enhanced contacts
•Multiple number, email and Instant Messaging details per contact, contacts with images
•Support for assigning images to contacts
Web browsing•Maemo browser powered by Mozilla technology
•Adobe Flash™ 9.4 support
•Full screen browsing
GPS and navigation
•Integrated GPS, Assisted-GPS, and Cell-based receivers
•Pre-loaded Ovi Maps application
•Automatic geotagging
Camera
•5 megapixel camera (2584 × 1938 pixels)
•Image formats: JPEG
•CMOS sensor, Carl Zeiss optics, Tessar lens
•3 × digital zoom
•Autofocus with assist light and two-stage capture key
•Dual LED flash
•Full-screen viewfinder
•Photo editor on device
•TV out (PAL/NTSC) with Nokia Video Connectivity Cable (CA-75U, included in box) or WLAN/UPnP
•Landscape (horizontal) orientation
•Capture modes: Automatic, portrait, video, macro, landscape, action


Video•Wide aspect ratio 16:9 (WVGA)
•Video recording file format: .mp4; codec: MPEG-4
•Video recording at up to 848 × 480 pixels (WVGA) and up to 25fps
•Video playback file formats: .mp4, .avi, .wmv, .3gp; codecs: H.264, MPEG-4, Xvid, WMV, H.263


Music and audio playback
•Maemo media player
•Music playback file formats: .wav, .mp3, .AAC, .eAAC, .wma, .m4a
•Built-in FM transmitter
•Ring tones: .wav, .mp3, .AAC, .eAAC, .wma, .m4a
•FR, EFR, WCDMA, and GSM AMR
•Digital stereo microphone
•DLNA


Personalisation
•Background pictures
•Widgets on your desktops
•Intelligent contact shortcuts
•Shortcuts to your favourite websites
•Shortcuts to applications
•Themes
Operating system
Maemo 5 software on Linux

Applications•Maemo Browser
•Phone
•Conversations
•Contacts
•Camera
•Photos
•Media player
•Email
•Calendar
•Ovi Maps
•Clock
•Notes
•Calculator
•PDF reader
•File manager
•RSS reader
•Sketch
•Games
•Widgets
•Application manager for downloads

Gaming
•Bounce
•Chess
•Mahjong


What´s in the box•Nokia N900
•Nokia Battery (BL-5J)
•Nokia High Efficiency Charger (AC-10)
•Nokia Stereo Headset (WH-205)
•Video out cable (CA-75U)
•Nokia charger adaptor (CA-146C)
•Cleaning cloth


Video playback file formats: .mp4, .avi, .wmv, .3gp; codecs: H.264, MPEG-4, Xvid, WMV, H.263
now that is what im talking about!!!!!

MackDeToaster

As far as I'm concerned this is the holy grail of phones and moves the playing field to an entirely new level - it blows everything else into the weeds with it's combination of great hardware and, most of all, that operating system. I've considered the Hero and came oh so close to buying the I8910, but managed to hold out for this, and I want one NOW

Capacitive is no good on high-res screens, nor when wearing gloves etc, and this looks very fluid and responsive. But most importantly, the fact that this is Maemo, a linux distribution, means that almost any Debian app can be ported over, OpenOffice or whatever you want.

It's also completely open, doesn't have to be jailbroken or any of that crap. Nokia have released some serious letdowns in the recent past, but this just about redeems them in my eyes. Viva le N900 !! I have cash burning a hole in my pocket for this baby and I absolutely cannot wait to get my hands on one..

http://maemo.nokia.com/

http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=44

http://flors.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/software-freedom-lovers-here-comes-maemo-5/

long_b

Will this support the Java ? Would miss me Opera Mini.

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Dankoozy

MackDeToaster wrote: »

It's also completely open, doesn't have to be jailbroken or any of that crap. Nokia have released some serious letdowns in the recent past, but this just about redeems them in my eyes. Viva le N900 !! I have cash burning a hole in my pocket for this baby and I absolutely cannot wait to get my hands on one..

+1

Hope to see more maemo-based devices in the future

MackDeToaster

Dankoozy wrote: »

+1

Hope to see more maemo-based devices in the future

I'd be expecting a 4-5" tablet a la the n810, and other devices scaling up to 10" such as rumoured here..

http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/009/08/nokia_to_make_arm_smartbook_based_symbian_or_maemo.htm

Dankoozy

MackDeToaster wrote: »

I'd be expecting a 4-5" tablet a la the n810, and other devices scaling up to 10" such as rumoured here..

http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/009/08/nokia_to_make_arm_smartbook_based_symbian_or_maemo.htm

10" phone would be nice if it was all you'd need to stay in touch & use as a computer it would be great. have removable modules for any type of network imaginable like satellite,gsm, lte. and a fuel cell to keep it going for about a month

manster

The King (N97) is dead, long live the king (N900) :pac:

CyberGhost

manster wrote: »

The King (N97) is dead, long live the king (N900) :pac:

That could be true,

According to Eldar Murtazin(who is in the "know" with Nokia) N97 could be the last flagship S60 mobile phone.

Here's a review with tons of pictures of N900.
http://mobile-review.com/review/nokia-rx51-n900-en.shtml

Looks like they made Maemo UI resemble S60 FP2 very closely, even the icons are the same.

Dankoozy

manster wrote: »

The King (N97) is dead, long live the king (N900) :pac:

the N97 is no king - doesn't even have the built in VoiP app. N97 is nothing more than nokia's answer to the social networking craze. the N900 is a different beast altogether