History.

Gi joe!

Claypigeon wrote: »

The content of a terrible textbook? Get researching, get a revision book that's worth its price, go! Now! Run!

I mean that I have most of the actual core stuff done-brit and france inter war, neutrality, mussolini hitler etc. I'm just wondering why theres such a love fest with case studys like the show trials, church state relations and so on?

I always believed they supplemented your answer, for e.g what Jarrow March symbolised is pretty much a brit question with the case study thrown in:)

manutd4life

for the northern ireland 1949-1993 topic would i be covered with:
the sunningdale agreement
direct rule
o'neill as pm
religious affiliation

Claypigeon

Gi joe! wrote: »

I mean that I have most of the actual core stuff done-brit and france inter war, neutrality, mussolini hitler etc. I'm just wondering why theres such a love fest with case studys like the show trials, church state relations and so on?

I always believed they supplemented your answer, for e.g what Jarrow March symbolised is pretty much a brit question with the case study thrown in:)

Yes, that is true to some extent. But it is stated that case studies will come up every year.

When asked on the Jarrow March you're right - you don't just document it but you need to talk about the wider situation and "contextualise" almost as you would in the doc q!

Claypigeon

manutd4life wrote: »

for the northern ireland 1949-1993 topic would i be covered with:
the sunningdale agreement
direct rule
o'neill as pm
religious affiliation

I'm going for something in relation to the various groups such as Apprentice Boys, perhaps the GAA and the likes within the North and all of the Orange Orders.

Lee W

American Section:
Montgomery Bus Boycott

Irish Section:
Rise of Second Sinn Féin Party
Home Rule

European Section:
Church-State Relations
Anglo-American Popular Culture
Rise of Fascism in Europe
Anti-Semitism and Nazi Persecution of the Jews

Northern Ireland:
The Welfare Sate
Apprentice Boys of Derry



....those are my predictions anyway, my teacher's too!....

damienricefan

DimestoreSaint wrote: »

Seeing as we don't have a thread, or one I can find anyway!


What's everyone's predictions then?? I've done the case studies from each module. Thinking of looking over some stuff over the next few days. What about you guys?


My last exam too.

lucky lucky person!!!

manutd4life

Lee W wrote: »

American Section:
Montgomery Bus Boycott

Irish Section:
Rise of Second Sinn Féin Party
Home Rule

European Section:
Church-State Relations
Anglo-American Popular Culture
Rise of Fascism in Europe
Anti-Semitism and Nazi Persecution of the Jews

Northern Ireland:
The Welfare Sate
Apprentice Boys of Derry



....those are my predictions anyway, my teacher's too!....

whats the welfare state.cant remember hearing about that?

Lee W

its when Lord Brookeborough set up a number of reforms in NI in the 1960's ...health, housing, social welfare and education...

damienricefan

Once i get any topic I can remotely do everything should be fine.

Our teacher let us see our mock before we did it and I picked all my essays and got a B3 which was good cos I knew I was answering the essays in the correct way.

Now without the advantage of knowing whats on it I hope I can get the same or higher and I didnt even prepare my essays either for my mock EFFORT of that! Only hystericals would do that *cough insane people learning off essays in engl paper 2*:pac:

phic

Claypigeon wrote: »

I'm going for something in relation to the various groups such as Apprentice Boys, perhaps the GAA and the likes within the North and all of the Orange Orders.

Does it actually say somewhere the case studies have to come up?
I always thought it was like the woman poet in English, doesn't have to come up but generally does!

ak51535

I hate history. All my teacher did for the last 2 years was make us underline random points, and say "you'll get a good paragraph on that"
I had the same dope for geography....-sigh- but! at least i wont have to see him again!

not bakunin

Lee W wrote: »

American Section:
Montgomery Bus Boycott

Irish Section:
Rise of Second Sinn Féin Party
Home Rule

European Section:
Church-State Relations
Anglo-American Popular Culture
Rise of Fascism in Europe
Anti-Semitism and Nazi Persecution of the Jews

Northern Ireland:
The Welfare Sate
Apprentice Boys of Derry



....those are my predictions anyway, my teacher's too!....

i don't know about being covered for the irish bit with just those two. im looking at the economic policies of cumann na ngaedhael and fianna fail 1922-1939 to be sure. that could be a question on either or both together....


lets all just hope sinn fein and the 1918 general election is there

Claypigeon

not bakunin wrote: »

i don't know about being covered for the irish bit with just those two. im looking at the economic policies of cumann na ngaedhael and fianna fail 1922-1939 to be sure. that could be a question on either or both together....


lets all just hope sinn fein and the 1918 general election is there

Good predictions in combo with the other post.

Apprentice Boys are very likely but know about the Orange Orders and their lodges and the various other Unionist groups and "traditions" (grrr@them)

phasers

Right, I'm doing:

America
Bus Boycott , and I'll probably briefly glimpse over the moon landing but I don't think (I hope anyway) that it'll be asked at HL

Dic. and Dem.
Church State relations in Italy and Germany
Anti-Semitism ( I mean I may as well, it fits into both)
Rise of Fascism hopefully if I find the time

Ireland 1870-1914
Not my strongest point, I'm gonna do
1885/1886 elections
Strike and Lock out
Go over some Parnell quickly

Ireland... something or other (De valera book anyway)
Rise of Sinn Féin 2
Econimic policies

My RSR went very well too, so hopefully it will be a nice exam!

Claypigeon

Aye my RSR went great too, turned out with the feel of a proper piece of research and critical analysis, hard work and we worked up 'til 8pm the night before but got it in and dealt with happily in the end.

As for case studies, there's always one in the four qs

sron

Are we expected to write short introductory paragraphs for our essays like in english p2? I never have but usually get high marks.

Also, my teacher is almost certain an easy question will come up on the 3rd French Republic.

Claypigeon

sron wrote: »

Are we expected to write short introductory paragraphs for our essays like in english p2? I never have but usually get high marks.

Also, my teacher is almost certain an easy question will come up on the 3rd French Republic.

It's a matter of style, if you start from the start it will logically act as in introduction. I myself tend to write some general background ie if I'm talking about the rise of fascism I'll mention the economic situation and the like - the thing with introductions though is that they are a paragraph and you are marked per paragraph in History so ensure that every one of your para's has facts and not just mere waffle or repetition.

Particularly the conclusion - the marking scheme reads that a conclusion should be more than "mere repetition" - a way to avoid this is to add in a modern day consequence. Ie in the persecution of Jews/anti-semitism mention how the state of Israel grew and how Jewish communities appeared in various countries when they fled Germany and other countries. Some of this was said on C2306.

decster

church state relations is a grand topic. talk about how mussolini resolved the churches conflict with the papal state. latern treaty.
then go on how they they compromised with each other and then about their conflict over youth movements and criticism of the treatment of jews.etc.
then similar for germany. how hitler made the reichkirche out of the protestant religions, then talk about how public bishops were not arrested but priests and nuns were persecuted. should be loads in dictatorship and democracy

Claypigeon

The books are terrible and so non-linear imo Wis they did everything in the right order if you get what I mean

ALincoln

Actually now I think back, Fascist foreign policy was a very substantial topic. This may also be examinable because it incorporates Mussolini into the exam.

phase-3

Can anyone put up a plan for a Q on the 1885-1886 elections? What kind of Q's can they ask on that?

ThatWouldBeNice

phase-3 wrote: »

Can anyone put up a plan for a Q on the 1885-1886 elections? What kind of Q's can they ask on that?

The question might be something like "What was the importance of the '85/'86 elections". You could then talk about how:

...it showed he IPP's dominance in Ireland...
...it marked the high point of CSP's career (talk about his positive characteristics that contributed to this)
...it highlighted a demographic political divide between North and South, Catholic and Protestant...
...it provoked a rise in Unionism...
...it changed British politics (as it created a Cons-Unionist alliance)
...it was the first time HR had been seriously debated and considered.

ALincoln

It might be incorporated into a more general Parnell question - it might not be there as a standalone question.

ThatWouldBeNice

ALincoln wrote: »

It might be incorporated into a more general Parnell question - it might not be there as a standalone question.

As in something like "In what way was the 85/86 elections the highpoint of CSP's career?", or something like that? I hope not, I'm not too good at Parnell's whole career.

Power-surge

On Parnell you could get a question like: Who was the more effective leader of the HR party, Butt or Parnell.

our teacher swore by that question. Could easily show up!

Hellsing

I'm praying for Church/State relations. There's so much you can write and I know it well. It's the best essay I could possibly get on the paper. My teacher reckons it's very likely to appear but not exactly a dead cert. Here's hoping

Weekend Warrior

I'm stressing over History big time at the minute. This is basically all I'm doing...

Europe
Church-state relations in Italy and Germany
Anti-Semitism and the Holocaust
Stalin's Show Trials

Ireland Topic 2
Home Rule - Isaac Butt/Parnell
Strike and Lockout
1885/6 Elections

Ireland Topic 3
Economic Policies of Sinn Fein and Cumann na Gael
Rise of F.F/decline of C na G
Rise of S.F/decline of H.R.

Should that be ok or does anyone want to give advice?

Gi joe!

Weekend Warrior wrote: »

I'm stressing over History big time at the minute. This is basically all I'm doing...

Europe
Church-state relations in Italy and Germany
Anti-Semitism and the Holocaust
Stalin's Show Trials

Ireland Topic 2
Home Rule - Isaac Butt/Parnell
Strike and Lockout
1885/6 Elections

Ireland Topic 3
Economic Policies of Sinn Fein and Cumann na Gael
Rise of F.F/decline of C na G
Rise of S.F/decline of H.R.

Should that be ok or does anyone want to give advice?

Maybe look over economies and propogada of Nazi Germany and Italy, just so you have an overview of the whole Fascism topic(barring foriegn policy)

Stalins eco policies like collectivisation too, so you can incorporate that into your Show trials, as guys who blamed his policies bit the dust:o

What are you saying for rise of FF and decline CNG?

Hellsing

Weekend Warrior wrote: »

I'm stressing over History big time at the minute. This is basically all I'm doing...

Europe
Church-state relations in Italy and Germany
Anti-Semitism and the Holocaust
Stalin's Show Trials

Ireland Topic 2
Home Rule - Isaac Butt/Parnell
Strike and Lockout
1885/6 Elections

Ireland Topic 3
Economic Policies of Sinn Fein and Cumann na Gael
Rise of F.F/decline of C na G
Rise of S.F/decline of H.R.

Should that be ok or does anyone want to give advice?

For Europe and Ireland Topic 3, I'm doing more or less the same thing, it should be grand. I do Politics and Society in NI so I don't know much about Topic 2

decster

Claypigeon wrote: »

The books are terrible and so non-linear imo Wis they did everything in the right order if you get what I mean

i suppose so. i got the essay off the guy in trinity so i have a good essay ready to learn off.
do a bit of internet searching. you might find some good stuff.:D

english4490

i feel like the only person not doing Irish Topic 2 - Movements for Reform and the european one, Dictatorship and Democracy!:rolleyes:

RoyKeaneNO16

Does anyone think the cinema section with charlie chaplin will come up thats easy enough but hasnt come up before

Weekend Warrior

Gi joe! wrote: »

Maybe look over economies and propogada of Nazi Germany and Italy, just so you have an overview of the whole Fascism topic(barring foriegn policy)

Stalins eco policies like collectivisation too, so you can incorporate that into your Show trials, as guys who blamed his policies bit the dust:o

What are you saying for rise of FF and decline CNG?

Thanks for you advice!
For rise of F.F./decline of C na G, I'm doing the following:

• Setting up of Fianna Fail - De V. leaving Sinn Fein, setting up F.F, aims of F.F, C na G becoming unpopular due to their policies, losing seats in election.
• Fianna Fail in the Dail - Assassination of Kevin O'Higgins,C na G passing Electoral Amendment act, forced F.F into parliamentary politics, 1927 General Election.
• Advance of Fianna Fail - opposing C na G, kept close links with IRA, combining Republic agenda with a social and economic policy, C na G had a much smaller support base.
• F.F vs C na G - F.F grew in popularity, local branches, better organisation, C na and their policies became unpopular, de V. seen as charimatic while Cosgrave seen as uninspiring and pro-British.
• 1932 Election - bitterness and tension, C na G argued their record in govt. over the past decade, F.F presented cautious reform programme and downplayed Republicanism, C na G stressed F.F links with IRA, F.F said C na G were pro-British
• Transfer of Power - results of election, C na G were now tired, poorly organised, no answer to economic problems and unpopular policies, those defeated in Civil War now took over country, peaceful transfer of power showed democratic stability of Free State.

Phew, that's my revision of that done.

Killaqueen!!!

In terms of elections (for both the Irish topics in particular) do you guys remember how many seats the parties get eg Home Rule/Unionists or FF and CnG in all the elections?

In class tests I can because we're given the weekend to study a couple of chapters and one essay will come up. But now that it's the actual leaving cert there's no way I'll remember those specifics. And it makes the essay much better to say how many seats they won instead of just "FF got the majority".

Hope I'm not alone here....?

phic

Killaqueen!!! wrote: »

In terms of elections (for both the Irish topics in particular) do you guys remember how many seats the parties get eg Home Rule/Unionists or FF and CnG in all the elections?

In class tests I can because we're given the weekend to study a couple of chapters and one essay will come up. But now that it's the actual leaving cert there's no way I'll remember those specifics. And it makes the essay much better to say how many seats they won instead of just "FF got the majority".

Hope I'm not alone here....?

Nah I'm the same, in the economic expansion essay I can never remember figures for economic growth and stuff either! I'm really just hoping to remember the general gist of everything, doubt I'll remember anything very specific!

Dr Gradus

Ive narrowed mine down to about 3 posiblities from each book....

Bit of a gamble but ill chance my arm anyway.

The docements is pretty much guaranteed to be montgomery bus boycott right?

decster

Dr Gradus wrote: »

Ive narrowed mine down to about 3 posiblities from each book....

Bit of a gamble but ill chance my arm anyway.

The docements is pretty much guaranteed to be montgomery bus boycott right?

no moon landings have a good possibility of coming up rather than bus boycott. study both to be safe.

decster

Killaqueen!!! wrote: »

In terms of elections (for both the Irish topics in particular) do you guys remember how many seats the parties get eg Home Rule/Unionists or FF and CnG in all the elections?

In class tests I can because we're given the weekend to study a couple of chapters and one essay will come up. But now that it's the actual leaving cert there's no way I'll remember those specifics. And it makes the essay much better to say how many seats they won instead of just "FF got the majority".

Hope I'm not alone here....?

you dont really need the figures. my teacher just told us to have the main gist of it and get the main points across. no loss of marks for no figures.

Twinkle-star15

decster wrote: »

you dont really need the figures. my teacher just told us to have the main gist of it and get the main points across. no loss of marks for no figures.

Our teacher told us to make them up if we can't remember them, and that we'd be fine as long as they were vaguely right.

But she's not a very good teacher, so...

decster

i'd rather just have the points that one side faired a lot better than the other, rather than make up figures,and the examiner knew them by freak chance. then marking me crap cos they would think i'm some idiot.

-ME-

Not looking forward to this exam at all, i'm hoping i'll be pleasantly surprised :rolleyes: I'm going to try and cover:

Irish Topic 2:
Conservative/ Liberal's solution to the Land Question (1870-1914)
1885/1886 Elections
Parnell (a little)
Strike and Lockout (please come up)
GAA/ Cultural Nationalism
The Suffrage Movement
Irish Nationalism and Unionism

Topic 3:
Third Home Rule Bill/ Crisis
Padraig Pearse and the Easter Rising
Growth of Sinn Fein/ Decline of Home Rule
War of Independence
Treaty Negotiations
Cosgrave Government
Eucharisitic Congress
Anglo Irish Relations
Fianna Fail/ Cumman na nGaedheal's Economic Policies

Europe:
Lenin/ Stalin
Mussolini all
Hitler all
Jarrow Marches
Outbreak of WW2

America:
Moon Landing
Montgomery Busboycott
May look over Vietnam (?)

I have the notes made out I just have to relearn them, yuck. Thank god I don't do Irish.. It's gonna be a fun couple of days.

randylonghorn

Twinkle-star15 wrote: »

Our teacher told us to make them up if we can't remember them, and that we'd be fine as long as they were vaguely right.

I wouldn't.

If I was correcting I'd be much happier to see an accurate statement of fact, without detailed numbers, than an inaccurate set of numbers.

ALincoln

Getting a figure wrong makes a bad impression.
Not mentioning a figure makes no impression in that regard.
Go for the lesser of the evils! And remember, a good general grasp of the facts and sensible accompanying analysis is far more appealing than a litany of numbers (some of which may be incorrect).

questionmark

can sum 1 please help me please? i am trying to a essay on the apprentice boys of derry but i am only able to write about 2 and a half pages:( , i am prob leaving alot out, and am not sure what i should include. has any1 already done this essay or could sum1 help me make a plan 4 it?
thank you very much

-ME-

If anyone has an outline plan for :

"Compare and contrast the economic policies of Fianna Fail and Cumann na nGaedheal"

could they please put it up. Thanks! I have no idea how to structure that type of essay.

cloak

Anybody know whats on the ordinary level sylabus?? Teacher left those who became too lazy for higher level in the dark:(

dont have anything to work with!!!???

ateam

cloak wrote: »

Anybody know whats on the ordinary level sylabus?? Teacher left those who became too lazy for higher level in the dark:(

dont have anything to work with!!!???

Concentrate at this late stage on the case studies and only the case studies.

ateam

-ME- wrote: »

If anyone has an outline plan for :

"Compare and contrast the economic policies of Fianna Fail and Cumann na nGaedheal"

could they please put it up. Thanks! I have no idea how to structure that type of essay.

For this question deal with C na G first and then FF. The last paragraph then can be used to compare the two polices.

Plan:

C na G.
1. Economic realities (country ravaged by civil war, affected by global events), Aims of C na G - 'balance the books', finance minister Ernst Blythe
2. Agriculture - main priority of the Gov - mention agr. minister
3. Industry - Shannon Scheme

FF
4. Economic aims - protectionism, Sean McEntee - Finance Minister, James Ryan - Agr Minister, Sean Lemass - Industry and Commerce
5. The Economic War 1932 - 1938 - causes, the Coal-Cattle Pact and the 1938 Anglo-Irish Agreements, effects (maybe two paragraphs)*
6. Agriculture - switch to tillage farming, incentives
7. Industry - Lemass - protectionist
8. Social Policy - pensions to orphans, widows etc

9. Conclusion:

C na G laid foundations, affected by the Wall Street Crash.
FF - Economic War hurt farmers, social policy was much more generous than C na G. Then maybe give your own opinion on which was better but keep it to one short sentence.

*Note that the Economic War can be used for Anglo-Irish Relations and Economic Policy and a question on Dev so it's NB.

not bakunin

ateam wrote: »

For this question deal with C na G first and then FF. The last paragraph then can be used to compare the two polices.

Plan:

C na G.
1. Economic realities (country ravaged by civil war, affected by global events), Aims of C na G - 'balance the books', finance minister Ernst Blythe
2. Agriculture - main priority of the Gov - mention agr. minister
3. Industry - Shannon Scheme

FF
4. Economic aims - protectionism, Sean McEntee - Finance Minister, James Ryan - Agr Minister, Sean Lemass - Industry and Commerce
5. The Economic War 1932 - 1938 - causes, the Coal-Cattle Pact and the 1938 Anglo-Irish Agreements, effects (maybe two paragraphs)*
6. Agriculture - switch to tillage farming, incentives
7. Industry - Lemass - protectionist
8. Social Policy - pensions to orphans, widows etc

9. Conclusion:

C na G laid foundations, affected by the Wall Street Crash.
FF - Economic War hurt farmers, social policy was much more generous than C na G. Then maybe give your own opinion on which was better but keep it to one short sentence.

*Note that the Economic War can be used for Anglo-Irish Relations and Economic Policy and a question on Dev so it's NB.

i agree........also remember that cumann na gaedhael were all for free trade in as much as possible, compared to the protectionism of FF. i would mention the influence that JJ McElligott and J Brennan had on government economic policy at this time also.

Killaqueen!!!

^^Thanks for that. I've never written a 'compare' type essay. When I see a question like that I just get thrown because I think I have to make loads of comparisons throughout. But if I do it as in your plan, CnG first, then FF, it's a grand essay to get.

Cheers