imagine this loose on the streets..next year..i kid you not

snowy2008

LARRY Murphy will be 45 when he is released from jail, still fit and healthy and, gardai believe, still the biggest single threat to the lives and safety of young women in Ireland.
In prison since his arrest the day after he kidnapped, repeatedly raped and attempted to murder a young Carlow woman, he has never shown any remorse or made any sttempt to seek counselling or any professional help.
He is an absolute and total loner. During his brief court appearance, when he pleaded guilty to rape and abduction charges, Murphy sat utterly impassive, never averting his gaze straight ahead at the court clerk's desk.
Some of those present in the courtroom who watched Murphy later said that he had never blinked during the two-hour hearing. When Judge Paul Carney sentenced him to 14 years, taking into account Murphy's guilty plea (which spared his victim a harrowing cross examination in the witness box), the rapist made no reaction.
His stare only broke when a prison officer took his arm to lead him down to the cells. He made no eye contact with any one in the court room.
His victim, an attractive Carlow woman in her mid-20s, was still quaking as Murphy was led away. Judge Carney asked twice if she was prepared to give evidence. Twice she said that she was unable to. A description of what happened the young woman was read out by prosecuting counsel.
She had closed her shop shortly after 8pm, with her takings of around €700, and had crossed to the secluded car park where she parked her car every day.
As she approached the car she noticed a man who appeared to be searching for something on the ground. As she opened the car door he pounced, shouting: "Give me the money." He then struck her on the face, fracturing her nose, and she fell backwards into the car.
He forced her into the footwell of the passenger side and told her to take off her bra. She was stunned and confused and did as he said. He tied her hands with the bra and ordered her to take off her shoes. As she was unable to, he tore them off her.
He drove her car to another darkened laneway where he had parked his Fiat Uno and forced her to crouch in the passenger footwell. He drove the car out of the town 13km to a spot between Moone and Beaconstown. There he stripped off her clothes and then his own and raped her.
Afterwards he put on his own clothes and told her to do likewise, again tying her hands with the bra. He spoke to her at this point, telling her he was married and even naming his two daughters. He told her he was taking her back to Carlow to set her free.
Murphy felt comfortable identifying himself in this way because he fully intended the young woman would not be alive to testify against him.
He then forced her into the boot and drove another 25km or so up into the Wicklow Mountains near Kilranelagh House, only a few miles from his home above Baltinglass.
There, in the darkness of a lane through the forest, he stripped her again and raped her another three times
Finally, he placed a plastic bag over her head and with her hands tied behind her back he began strangling her.
It was at this point in this most isolated spot that two local men, who had been out "lamping" deer, drove down the lane and caught Murphy and his victim in the headlights of their Land Rover. Murphy jumped into the Fiat and drove off.
The two men did their best to calm the woman, who was naked and had run into a barbed wire fence in her terror to escape. They covered her with a coat and brought her to Baltinglass Garda Station from where she was brought to Carlow Hospital.
Murphy drove out of the wood and dumped the car a short distance from his home where his wife and daughters were sleeping and climbed into bed. He knew that he was caught. The two hunters were from the area and they had immediately recognised him.
They told gardai who sent two squad cars to park outside Murphy's house until a warrant could be sworn for his arrest early next morning.
Murphy made no statement to gardai and appeared calm throughout his interrogation, processing and charging. He was placed in the high security wing of Cloverhill Prison and there communicated with neither prison officers nor other prisoners.
His wife visited him a number of times in Cloverhill where he told her he was innocent and would be pleading not guilty. He was lying. He knew that a guilty plea would mean a lighter sentence.
After he pleaded guilty, his wife never visited again. In fact the only people who have visited Murphy since he joined the other sex offenders in Arbour Hill are gardai investigating the unsolved murders of other young women in or around the Wicklow Mountains. Murphy remains the chief suspect in at least three murders: those of Deirdre Jacob, Jo Jo Dullard and Annie McCarrick.
From the moment the two hunters told gardai in Baltinglass they had recognised Murphy on the lane, Murphy was suspected of being a serial killer. At his initial interrogation he was asked if he had anything to say about the disappearances of these young women. He said nothing.
He was quizzed again in prison three years later by a cold case team, under the name Operation Trace, headed by the Garda's top detective, then Chief Supt Tony Hickey. Again he said nothing.
The Operation Trace detectives were able to ascertain from records kept by contractors who had employed Murphy as a self-employed joiner that he had been working in Newbridge, Co Kildare on July 28, 1998, the day that the 18-year-old student, Deirdre Jacob, disappeared. Deirdre was seen only minutes before she disappeared as she walked the short distance from the town's post office to her home.
As can be seen from the way Murphy abducted the woman in Carlow, he was a person capable of waylaying, knocking out and abducting a fit young woman in seconds.
He was a practiced predator. He had been spotted in and around Carlow town for a month before he had abducted his victim. He was stalking her, working out the safest place and time to pounce. He was working in Newbridge for at least a week before Deirdre disappeared.
Murphy fits every profile description of a serial killer. Most serial killers first kill within a short range of their homes, then move outwards.
His home turf was the Wicklow Mountains. He hunted there, mostly on his own, and knew the network of roads on the western flanks of the hills. His work took him around the east Leinster area from Waterford to Dublin.
In the 18 years before Murphy's arrest, nine women disappeared in the Leinster area and are believed murdered. Since his arrest none have disappeared. Gardai have no information to link Murphy to any of these killings but in two cases there is some circumstantial evidence.
As well as being in Newbridge on the day that Deirdre Jacob disappeared, there is a tenuous link between him and the last sighting of 21-year-old Jo Jo Dullard on the night of November 9, 1995.
Jo Jo had been hitchhiking from Naas to Callan in Kilkenny and the last known location for her was in Moone, where she had called a friend from a coin box. She cut the call off saying a car had pulled up. She was never seen again.
A strange aspect of the abduction and rape that Murphy was convicted of was the fact that he took her to the field outside Moone to commit the first rape.
There is no apparent logic to this. Gardai believe Murphy's decision to take the young Carlow woman to this spot, before taking her up the mountains to kill her, might be linked to Jo Jo.

Khannie

Animal. I know what I'd do if I were that womans friend or family and I'd have no problem doing time for it. I'm sure everyone she knows is thinking the same thing.

KittyeeTrix

Honest to god, it would scare the daylights outta ya if you knew all the nut jobs we were surrounded by.
I live in a rural country setting and the amount of young women who walk past my house on their way for a walk in the woods alone is incredible........ they walk alone, I'd never do that!!!!!!!
I read a book about infamous murders in Ireland and many of them happened in rural settings where you would not expect it!!

I know it won't happen to me but at the same time I always think before i go out and do something which could inadvertantly raise the odds of something happening e.g walking alone in the middle of a forest walk-bog road.
I'm probably just being a nervous nellie but can't help it:)

P.s. just want to clarify that I in no way mean that if anything happened to any young lady whilst out walking alone that she is responsible, just making the point that I basically am too worried about the type of nut jobs out there to walk in certain places alone

dotsman

You're already discussing it here. (Probably not the best place).

On topic, what can they do? He's suspicious, but there's no evidence to say he did murder them, so they can't keep him in jail on the off-chance that he might be the killer.

To be honest, I'd say the guards will be keeping any eye on him forever. I can also see him being lifted by the guards anytime there's any similar attack in the area.

Anyway, as already mentioned, it's not the nutjobs you know about that you need to worry about!

Oryx

They can only convict him for the crime he admitted to. In spite of the fact that you can make assumptions from circumstantial evidence and the fact that no other girls have gone missing since they caught him, you cannot lock him up for that, because its not proof. Such is the legal system will live with, and its better than the alternative - locking up people on the presumption of guilt.

I know what I personally think about the guy, and I hope to god that once he gets out we dont start to hear of girls going missing once more. He is a clever man who only got caught because of misjudging his victim momentarily. Which if he IS a serial killer, he may not do again.

All kids should be taught security and basic self defence in schools. Unfortunately its all we can do.

allabouteve

Since he's the prime suspect in the disappearance of other women I'd put money on the Irish police watching him very closely. He probably won't be without an hidden escort until he slips up again, and this time they'll make sure they've enough to put him away for a very long time.

The cops know he's a bad dude, and they've got sisters and daughters too, they won't be letting him wander around offering lifts to hikers.

seamus

There's no way he'll end up in trouble again. He won't be able to get a job, he has no family and the Gardai will drag him in for questioning for every rape, assault and murder that occurs within a 500 mile radius of wherever he is.

Hamiltonion

And this is why we need execution back on the menu. Maybe the helpful neighbirhood vigilenties will take care of it...

Zulu

seamus wrote: »

There's no way he'll end up in trouble again. He won't be able to get a job, he has no family and the Gardai will drag him in for questioning for every rape, assault and murder that occurs within a 500 mile radius of wherever he is.

...thankfully.

kmick

allabouteve wrote: »

Since he's the prime suspect in the disappearance of other women I'd put money on the Irish police watching him very closely. He probably won't be without an hidden escort until he slips up again, and this time they'll make sure they've enough to put him away for a very long time.

The cops know he's a bad dude, and they've got sisters and daughters too, they won't be letting him wander around offering lifts to hikers.

I think you have been watching too much TV. Once he walks out of prison he is a free man. Thye might keep tabs on him as best they can but the gardai wont have a mandate to watch him 24 hours.

Slow Motion

Hamiltonion wrote: »

And this is why we need execution back on the menu. Maybe the helpful neighbirhood vigilenties will take care of it...

Why did you even bother posting that? It will never happen and I am glad! I Don't believe it is a solution to anything. Reforming the justice system and sentencing rules would be far more useful IMHO!

Fighting Irish

Hamiltonion wrote: »

And this is why we need execution back on the menu. Maybe the helpful neighbirhood vigilenties will take care of it...

I agree with you but the reason execution is not around is because you want to kill this guy without having any evidence that he killed anyone.

Fighting Irish

Slow Motion wrote: »

Why did you even bother posting that? It will never happen and I am glad! I Don't believe it is a solution to anything. Reforming the justice system and sentencing rules would be far more useful IMHO!

Not really, it costs us too much money to house crims, some people deserve to die

Puddleduck

People know what he looks like. Its the nutters that we dont know we should be careful of.

delllat

Oryx wrote: »

They can only convict him for the crime he admitted to. In spite of the fact that you can make assumptions from circumstantial evidence and the fact that no other girls have gone missing since they caught him, you cannot lock him up for that, because its not proof. Such is the legal system will live with, and its better than the alternative - locking up people on the presumption of guilt.

I know what I personally think about the guy, and I hope to god that once he gets out we dont start to hear of girls going missing once more. He is a clever man who only got caught because of misjudging his victim momentarily. Which if he IS a serial killer, he may not do again.

All kids should be taught security and basic self defence in schools. Unfortunately its all we can do.

what world are you living in ?
you think a young girl with self defence would be able to stop a man whos apparently as strong as bull and can knock people out cold with a single blow ?

Khannie

delllat wrote: »

what world are you living in ?
you think a young girl with self defence would be able to stop a man whos apparently as strong as bull and can knock people out cold with a single blow ?

Anyone with a heartbeat can knock anyone else out cold with a single blow if it's well placed.

I think teaching practical self defence (i.e. BJJ, Judo or MMA, not some bow to the teacher malarky) in schools could be very useful for young women. I think it's fair to say that it would discourage some potential rapists / murderers if they thought they might get more of a struggle.

Slow Motion

Khannie wrote: »

Anyone with a heartbeat can knock anyone else out cold with a single blow if it's well placed.

I think teaching practical self defence (i.e. BJJ, Judo or MMA, not some bow to the teacher malarky) in schools could be very useful for young women. I think it's fair to say that it would discourage some potential rapists / murderers if they thought they might get more of a struggle.

Why should it be taught in schools? There are enough female skangers out there as it is causing trouble without teaching them how to do more damage! If parents are concerned let them pay for lessons!

Hamiltonion

Slow Motion wrote: »

Why did you even bother posting that? It will never happen and I am glad! I Don't believe it is a solution to anything. Reforming the justice system and sentencing rules would be far more useful IMHO!

Because it makes sense. Its a cheaper alternative to a life sentence, as each prisoner in the joy costs the taxpayer 250k a year, and in regards crimes such as rape, armed assault and murder, frankly therse people have proved they're not fit to be a part of society and cannot be trusted to reform

Oryx

delllat wrote: »

what world are you living in ?
you think a young girl with self defence would be able to stop a man whos apparently as strong as bull and can knock people out cold with a single blow ?

Im living in the real world.

Self defence is not about being able to beat up a man twice your size. It teaches you how NOT to look and act like a victim so you are less likely to be attacked in the first place. It teaches you to actually ask passers by to help. To scream and shout and get noticed. It teaches that an attack might someday happen, so if it ever does, theres more chance you will react in the right way and not go to pieces. While you are taught how to hit weak spots, if heaven forbid you do get in a headlock with a bull of a man, its all about knowing how to release his grip (which has very little to do with strength, more about leverage) and get the hell away, not fight back at all.

All that is far better than nothing at all, and my daughter will be taught it, like I was.

Fighting Irish

Khannie wrote: »

Anyone with a heartbeat can knock anyone else out cold with a single blow if it's well placed.

I think teaching practical self defence (i.e. BJJ, Judo or MMA, not some bow to the teacher malarky) in schools could be very useful for young women. I think it's fair to say that it would discourage some potential rapists / murderers if they thought they might get more of a struggle.

absolutely not, any spare time they have in school should be for religious studies. they need to learn about life not about beating people up.




^this is what you're up against

Dudess

Hamiltonion wrote: »

And this is why we need execution back on the menu. Maybe the helpful neighbirhood vigilenties will take care of it...

I personally don't need a government that has the power to murder. I do think however that the jail sentence in this case of 14 years for rape, abduction, false imprisonment and attempted murder is an utter travesty. :mad:

Oryx

Dudess wrote: »

I personally don't need a government that has the power to murder. I do think however that the jail sentence in this case of 14 years for rape, abduction, false imprisonment and attempted murder is an utter travesty. :mad:

Part of that travesty is that he wont have even served 14 years.

Raiser

Dudess wrote: »

I personally don't need a government that has the power to murder. I do think however that the jail sentence in this case of 14 years for rape, abduction, false imprisonment and attempted murder is an utter travesty. :mad:

14 years - anyone know how many this utter freak will actually serve?

- He should be dipped gradually in acid; death inside of 72 hours would be too humane.

Dudess

"This man did unspeakably horrific things to a woman (don't know who the heck she is) - in order to satisfy our thirst for revenge let's do unspeakably horrific things to him, e.g. dipping him in acid over a period of 3+ days"...

Aren't we supposed to be the civilised ones?

Jesus Wept

teresa2008 wrote: »

Some of those present in the courtroom who watched Murphy later said that he had never blinked during the two-hour hearing.

Lesson: Some people are full of shit.

Nightwish

I dont know his victim personally, but we have mutual friends. How she got her life back together after her attack, I dont know, but it will be horrible for her to know he's back on the streets again. Especially so soon after the attack. He must be evil to the core. He was questioned about the disappearances of the women in the Kildare/Midlands area because he was known to have been in the area when some of the women vanished.

krudler

delllat wrote: »

what world are you living in ?
you think a young girl with self defence would be able to stop a man whos apparently as strong as bull and can knock people out cold with a single blow ?

a 6 year old could take someone out with a swift kick to the balls, wouldnt matter how big the guy is

GirlInterrupted

Khannie wrote: »

Anyone with a heartbeat can knock anyone else out cold with a single blow if it's well placed.

I think teaching practical self defence (i.e. BJJ, Judo or MMA, not some bow to the teacher malarky) in schools could be very useful for young women. I think it's fair to say that it would discourage some potential rapists / murderers if they thought they might get more of a struggle.

Its of limited use when a girl is confronted with sudden, unexpected violence. Often the target of the attack will just freeze with terror, although its useful to help change a girls behaviour from potential victim to possible troublemaker.

Hamiltonion wrote: »

Because it makes sense. Its a cheaper alternative to a life sentence, as each prisoner in the joy costs the taxpayer 250k a year, and in regards crimes such as rape, armed assault and murder, frankly therse people have proved they're not fit to be a part of society and cannot be trusted to reform

What you're suggesting is awful. You think that rapists should be executed as murderers, and that armed assaults should be treated as the same? What you're suggesting would result in rape victims being routinely murdered as well, since the penalty is the same - what does the perpetrater have to lose? He might as well murder his victim. The armed assault would result in even more potential murders if the penalty is the same.

And besides that, there's enough inhumanity out there without the State sponsoring it. You might think the state would be acting on behalf of the people if it carried out executions, but I don't want anyone killed on my behalf, thank you.

Cuchulain

Really I think truth serum should be used in cases where the suspect is highly likely to be withholding information. Althought its classified as "torture" by international law I think in certain circumstances it could and should be used.

Id give that bastard Murphy a gallon of it.

Red Hand

GirlInterrupted wrote: »

What you're suggesting is awful. You think that rapists should be executed as murderers, and that armed assaults should be treated as the same? What you're suggesting would result in rape victims being routinely murdered as well, since the penalty is the same - what does the perpetrater have to lose? He might as well murder his victim. The armed assault would result in even more potential murders if the penalty is the same.

And besides that, there's enough inhumanity out there without the State sponsoring it. You might think the state would be acting on behalf of the people if it carried out executions, but I don't want anyone killed on my behalf, thank you.

Well, in my opinion, some people are not entitled to life when they commit certain crimes. I know, you will counter by saying that there is always the possibility that someone did not do the crime due to miscarriage of justice etc. But still, if someone close to you was treated the way that this Larry Murphy guy treated her, would you entrust retribution to state? Only to have him released a few years later? Makes me angry thinking about it.

GirlInterrupted

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Well, in my opinion, some people are not entitled to life when they commit certain crimes. I know, you will counter by saying that there is always the possibility that someone did not do the crime due to miscarriage of justice etc. But still, if someone close to you was treated the way that this Larry Murphy guy treated her, would you entrust retribution to state? Only to have him released a few years later? Makes me angry thinking about it.

If it happened to someone close to me, I should be the very last person who decides the punishment. And don't think I'm not angry at both the crime and the sentence.

I agree that the sentence was totally inadequate, and that the actual time served is disgraceful.

Red Hand

Well, again in my opinion, some crimes merit an 'eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth'. Like, how can some victims and relatives of victims get by knowing that people who murdered or injured them or loved ones, will still themselves be alive and able to enjoy life?

I don't understand. I must have the vendetta gene.

GirlInterrupted

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Well, again in my opinion, some crimes merit an 'eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth'. Like, how can some victims and relatives of victims get by knowing that people who murdered or injured them or loved ones, will still themselves be alive and able to enjoy life?

I don't understand. I must have the vendetta gene.

But to introduce the death penalty for rape isn't an eye for an eye. I believe that to do so will produce murder victims where there would previously have been rape victims.

Which is absolutely not minimising the violence and trauma of rape.

In Italian, vendetta (or 'faida'), means vengeance - a desire for revenge rather than revenge itself. No revenge will reverse a crime, but I'd agree that justice will help come to terms with it.

LivingDeadGirl

This is awful. 14 years is not an adequate sentence for a crime like rape, it often completely destroys lives. I know its very expensive to house criminals but I think the cushy life they get in prisons atm is disgraceful. I think they should let the Christian Brothers run the prisons, they seemed to know what they were doing when it came to punishment :pac:

CoachBoone

LivingDeadGirl wrote: »

This is awful. 14 years is not an adequate sentence for a crime like rape, it often completely destroys lives. I know its very expensive to house criminals but I think the cushy life they get in prisons atm is disgraceful. I think they should let the Christian Brothers run the prisons, they seemed to know what they were doing when it came to punishment :pac:

How braindead are you? It might be a throwaway comment but jesus christ.

What the Christian Brothers did was rape. How can you possibly make light of that?

LivingDeadGirl

CoachBoone wrote: »

How braindead are you? It might be a throwaway comment but jesus christ.

What the Christian Brothers did was rape. How can you possibly make light of that?

Jesus relax it was a joke!

CoachBoone

LivingDeadGirl wrote: »

This is awful. 14 years is not an adequate sentence for a crime like rape, it often completely destroys lives. I know its very expensive to house criminals but I think the cushy life they get in prisons atm is disgraceful. I think they should let the Christian Brothers run the prisons, they seemed to know what they were doing when it came to punishment :pac:

LivingDeadGirl wrote: »

Jesus relax it was a joke!

Its funny how you can be so outraged that 14 years isnt enough for a crime like rape when... what the christian brothers did was the exact same. Or did it not occur to you that childhood abuse ruins lives too?

haha looks like Larry Murphy was good at suprise sex ahahha

LivingDeadGirl

CoachBoone wrote: »

Its funny how you can be so outraged that 14 years isnt enough for a crime like rape when... what the christian brothers did was the exact same. Or did it not occur to you that childhood abuse ruins lives too?

haha looks like Larry Murphy was good at suprise sex ahahha

The second part of my post was a joke, like I already said. Of course that occurred to me. Sorry if I offended you but it was obvious I was joking.

twanda

I met an old man who claimed to be a friend of the family and he told me that they were full sure this guy was responsible for the other missing women in Ireland. He told me that Larry said to the victim that he had ''done it before and he would do it again''........has anyone else heard this?

CoachBoone

LivingDeadGirl wrote: »

The second part of my post was a joke, like I already said. Of course that occurred to me. Sorry if I offended you but it was obvious I was joking.

I just dont think its anything to be joking about.

Jokes about rape are hated around here (and rightly so), people saying "giggidy" or making light of any rape or similar situation are frowned upon and sometimes banned.

Im not ultra sensitive or PC crazy either.

LivingDeadGirl

CoachBoone wrote: »

I just dont think its anything to be joking about.

Jokes about rape are hated around here (and rightly so), people saying "giggidy" or making light of any rape or similar situation are frowned upon and sometimes banned.

Im not ultra sensitive or PC crazy either.

Well you know what we'll leave that for the mods to decide shall we? I've already apologised, what more do you want?

CoachBoone

LivingDeadGirl wrote: »

Well you know what we'll leave that for the mods to decide shall we? I've already apologised, what more do you want?

I dont want anything. Its cool.

confusticated

GirlInterrupted wrote: »

What you're suggesting is awful. You think that rapists should be executed as murderers, and that armed assaults should be treated as the same? What you're suggesting would result in rape victims being routinely murdered as well, since the penalty is the same - what does the perpetrater have to lose? He might as well murder his victim. The armed assault would result in even more potential murders if the penalty is the same.

And besides that, there's enough inhumanity out there without the State sponsoring it. You might think the state would be acting on behalf of the people if it carried out executions, but I don't want anyone killed on my behalf, thank you.

I agree with the no death penalty thing, but I don't think the perpetrators of these crimes are thinking about the jail sentence as they carry out the crimes really...and plenty of people have walked free after only a few months in this country for killing someone anyway. The problem is there's absolutely no respect for humanity, never mind fear of the law...I just don't think the death sentence or jail sentence means anything to them so the punishment's not going to deter those sickos.

The Sweeper

Folks, boards.ie is not a platform for incitement to violence against anyone or anything. Anyone suggesting or condoning violence against anyone again on this thread will be banned - especially against a backdrop of further, unproven allegations.

It might be worth noting that many years ago, I shared a house with a girl who knew the victim in question. The girl I shared with was from Carlow. I don't believe she was a close personal friend of the victim; rather I believe the victim ran a beauty or hairdressing salon and the girl I shared with was a customer.

Either way, I got quite the surprise when I read the opening post of this thread, because it was virtually word for word, the account I heard from the girl I shared with some eight or nine years ago. It was a subject of great interest at the time specifically because of the questionmark about the defendant's possible participation in the disappearance of other women.

One feature that isn't in the OP's post, but was in the version I heard, was that Murphy had apparently already dug a shallow grave for the victim. He had dropped her in that grave before strangling her before the lads lamping came upon him. Apparently all she could think at the time was of her poor family, who she believed would never know what happened to her. In the version I heard, Murphy was strangling her with her bra as she lay in the shallow grave.

I'll reiterate that the above is just the version of events I heard from the house share girl, but again she gave me the information in the OP's post nearly nine years ago, word for word.

Last point: if the gardai haven't managed to land this bloke with charges for the other disappearances they believe he may be involved with during the whole time he's been in prison, I think it's unlikely they'll be able to charge him unless something new and startling comes to light.

allabouteve

confusticated wrote: »

I agree with the no death penalty thing, but I don't think the perpetrators of these crimes are thinking about the jail sentence as they carry out the crimes really..

I'd say they think about them after the commission of the crime, and at that point , if I was the victim of rape, I wouldn't want my attacker thinking that the best way to get away with it is to shut the victim up permenently.

Dudess

Minesajackdaniels wrote: »

It might be worth noting that many years ago, I shared a house with a girl who knew the victim in question. The girl I shared with was from Carlow. I don't believe she was a close personal friend of the victim; rather I believe the victim ran a beauty or hairdressing salon and the girl I shared with was a customer.

God yeah, my mate was working in Roches Stores in the Ilac Centre in 1999/2000 and one of her colleagues was a sister/friend/cousin of the victim... forgot about that. Didn't hear much about it afterwards though - might have been of more interest at local level rather than national... although that seems kinda weird.

The Sweeper

Very weird. I was struck by the OP's post - it really is nearly verbatim the story I heard nine years ago and I can remember thinking that if the police found a serial killer it'd be all over the news. Then I was surprised when it wasn't.

seanybiker

someone is bound to murder him. Well hopefully they will anyways.

snowy2008

oh my god, i just feel so sorry for that girl, my heart goes out to her, she was so lucky to have such an inner strenght, she must know hes out next year, i keep her in my prayers all the time, fingers crossed he'll be found out somehow

valery

teresa2008 wrote: »

oh my god, i just feel so sorry for that girl, my heart goes out to her, she was so lucky to have such an inner strenght, she must know hes out next year, i keep her in my prayers all the time, fingers crossed he'll be found out somehow

cut the fu...rs balls off. Or better still, let me do it.

SeekUp

Cuchulain wrote: »

Really I think truth serum should be used in cases where the suspect is highly likely to be withholding information. Althought its classified as "torture" by international law I think in certain circumstances it could and should be used.

Id give that bastard Murphy a gallon of it.

Veritaserum?