Diet options - replacing bread?

nice_guy80

I know people recommend not to eat too much bread. i've trying to get rid of last bit of the belly...

however, i find i get hungry during the day unless i've two good brown bread sandwiches with tuna for lunch
i also get an itching for brown bread toast in the evenings with a smothering of home made jam.

can anyone recommend a replacement for bread? anything at all.

d'Oracle

nice_guy80 wrote: »

I know people recommend not to eat too much bread. i've trying to get rid of last bit of the belly...

however, i find i get hungry during the day unless i've two good brown bread sandwiches with tuna for lunch
i also get an itching for brown bread toast in the evenings with a smothering of home made jam.

can anyone recommend a replacement for bread? anything at all.

I lost two stone once by giving up bread.
I was fairly tubby though.

I replaced my bread with Finn Crisp crackers.
Nice.

Hoo-Haa

Nothing wrong with a small bit of wholemeal or granary bread, just dont go eating half a loaf of it.

If anything you're better off eat it as it'l be full of fibre which will fill you up

I find dark rivita's a good munch if ya looking for a toast replacement - 3 of them have the same calories as your standard slice of brown bread

rubadub

Yeah, ryvitas are great, I like the sesame ones. 3 ryvitas is the same weight/calories as 1 slice of mc cambridges and seems more substantial.

I also use iceberg lettuce leaves as wraps.

Vamoose Killers

I used to use spinach to make a 'bun' for my burgers.

legend365

Rivita is goood!

Or jst plain ol' crackers.

billyhead

For what its worth. I don't think there is much harm in eating wholemeal bread as long as you factor it into your overall macros i.e calories you need per day to maintain reduce or increas your weight. I am very active myself and eat up to 5 slices of the stuff per day but I need the carbs from it.

Vamoose Killers

I just hate eating something with 25+ ingredients in it tbh.

rubadub

legend365 wrote: »

Or jst plain ol' crackers.

Cream crackers are quite bad, next time you are in the shop get a pack and hold it up next to a pack of say digestives, the nutritional values are remarkably similar. People figure bland stuff is healthy so presume stuff like crackers or supernoodles are "healthy", while they are processed white flour and loaded with calories. Some single packs of supernoodles are over 550kcal.

If I am going to eat crap I would sooner tasty crap!

peanuthead

rubadub wrote: »

supernoodles are "healthy",

I don't know of anyone who thinks supernoodles are healthy!

OP I find that ryvita is a great substitute for bread, but if you are not feeling satisfied by the healthy stuff you're eating, just eat more of it. Increase the portion size of your vegetables.

But I do understand that there is sometimes nothing like a slice of bread or a lovely crispy bread roll with real butter.... nyom....

Vamoose Killers

Real butter is healthy.

rubadub

peanuthead wrote: »

I don't know of anyone who thinks supernoodles are healthy!

I have met a few, and even if they do not consider them healthy most are shocked at the calorie content. A lad in work was telling my he was on a diet and "watching what he ate", I would see him sit down to a 1000+kcal lunch, a full pack of noodles as a side dish, convinced he was eating better than before.

I saw loads of noodles in my sisters kitchen once, again she said she was "dieting", and gave them all to me when she saw the caloires!

Batchelors supernoodles the full pack is 536kcal, and 12grams sat fat. 10.5WW points in a full pack of Bacon supernoodles.

They quote a half pack, I have never eaten a half pack, I used to eat 2 at a time!

536kcal is more than most microwave ready meals. A big mac is only 490kcal.

rccaulfield

Vamoose Killers wrote: »

Real butter is healthy.

Eh no!
OP- i have a wholemeal pitta -theyr class toast em a bit cut em in half and have a bita chicken and lettuce inside!
Most brown breads have hydrogenated fats in them-which will destroy your chances of bodybuilding/fitness!

Vamoose Killers

I always have some real butter during the week. Because it's good.

d'Oracle

I have replaced Butter in my diet with Ripe avocado or Hummus.

Khannie

Ryvita.

As others have said though....there's no harm in a bit of decent brown bread.

Colm_OReilly

There's actually quiet a lot of harm in bread, now matter how it's dressed up.

Post your complete diet and then we'll be able to help you better. There's really no point in substituting bread with something else that's just as harmful.

all_smilz

Vamoose Killers wrote: »

I always have some real butter during the week. Because it's good.

HUH? no way...
*scratches head*

Khannie

Colm_OReilly wrote: »

There's actually quiet a lot of harm in bread, now matter how it's dressed up.

Get out of it ye paleo nut job. :P

nice_guy80

My Diet

7:30 am: good bowl of porridge made with water and raisins. some flaxseed, honey and milk added after...

snack at 10am: tea! with 2 plain ryvita rye things.

lunch at 12:30 (most days): two brown bread sandwiches - with tuna or boiled eggs. along with tea, maybe biscuit or two...

snack at 3:30pm: 4 ryvita smothered in philedalphia. mmmm cup of coffee. maybe a biscuit or two

dinner 6pm (or so): pasta with chicken, tomatoe sauce and grated cheese, or steamed spuds with chicken/homemade beef burger/mince/lamb chops/steak/salmon fillets broccoli carrots. youghurt for dessert.

snack 9:30pm (or so): bowl of bran flakes with milk. or extra food from dinner

allied to all that i am constantly nibbling on nuts and raisins during the day and drinking lots of water

i often replace the snacks with brown bread toast and jam. especially days i'm not working.

I do a lot of exercise and literally burn energy sitting down

EDIT: also eat a lot of fruit everyday, take some vitamin supps etc

Hail 2 Da Chimp

nice_guy80 wrote: »

I do a lot of exercise and literally burn energy sitting down

Whats your secret?

g'em

Colm_OReilly wrote: »

There's actually quiet a lot of harm in bread, now matter how it's dressed up.

There's also quite a lot of harm in walking across the road but we don't say that all the time because that would be... y'know... sensationalist.

A good quality, wholemeal bread will provide plenty of fibre, lots of magnesium, manganese and tryptophan, and if it's seeded it can be a source of good fats. The more processed the bread, the less benefits are reaped.

nice_guy80

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Whats your secret?

constantly twiddling my toes...

TinCool

+1 for the Ryvitas.

I gave up bread for lent which meant I had to be inventive at lunch time (no more ready made sambos or processed meats) and generally having the odd slice of bread here and there when I get home from work, have been replaced with, you guessed it, Ryvitas. I've managed to shift a stone so far over the last 3 months (another 20 pounds to go to my desired weight). Although I am exercising 4 to 5 times a week I do think that cutting out bread (I do still have it the odd time if I'm out for a meal, may be 2 to 3 times a month) in conjunction with general dietary changes plus the exercise is helping with my weight loss.

TC.

rubadub

nice_guy80 wrote: »

bowl of bran flakes

did you know they are 22% sugar?


Yes Chris, and they are thinner from eating that healthier breakfast:pac:

Vamoose Killers

all_smilz wrote: »

HUH? no way...
*scratches head*

Not sure if you're taking the piss...


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055527141&highlight=butter

nice_guy80

22%? did not know that. though i do have tescos reduced sugar bran flakes. might just replace them with some muesli so

i find they are handy for a snack though. i don't add sugar to anything, so a small bit doesn't harm anyone

Bog Butter

I gave up bread too. I wouldn't have a major problem eating a little bread. The trouble is when you put stuff on it like butter, jam, mayo etc. which are high in calories and addictive.

I found that if your eliminate sandwiches (and all processed foods) from your diet full stop (just for a while at least until you get out of the habbit) it encourages you to eat a proper meal rather than just grabing whats in the fridge and sticking it inbetween two buttered pieces of bread. When I stopped eating sambos I had to start thinking how to make a meal for myself other than the usual meat and two vedge.

edit: So my advice would be to say: Ditch the bread and go for fresh, unprocessed convience foods and make a meal of it.

Colm_OReilly

http://lifespotlight.com/health/2009/05/21/real-truth-healthy-grains/

Khannie

Colm_OReilly wrote: »

http://lifespotlight.com/health/2009/05/21/real-truth-healthy-grains/

I'll see your paleo and raise you oats......

A former suffragette who was believed to be Britain's oldest person has died at the age of 111.

Annie Knight died at the Royal Cornhill Hospital in Aberdeen, on Monday. She put her long life down to a diet of of porridge, no alcohol and the occasional sweet.

link

Roper

None of those links make my science brain happy.

ragg

I think you need to reassess carb intake FULLSTOP.

You don't need to take in carbs if you are not active.. if your day consists of sitting in front of a computer in the office - then you are taking in energy that you are not expending by eating carb heavy foods duch a bread.

Carbs are essential before and after the gym - but if you are attempting to lose weight - i would steer clear of bread & significantly reduce all other carbs on your off days.

Bringing a protein heavy salad should be enough for lunch.. (I aim for 1g of protein per lb of lean body weight per day - split over 5 or 6 meals)

My carb intake on a non gym day is only around 30 -40 gs.

Which is essentially one slice of granary with my eggs in the morning & 2 baby potatoes in the evening - the rest is made up from veg.

Where as on a gym day my carb intake is closer to 200g.

Calorie counting is all well and good - but you should really know where your calories are coming from if you want real results

That’s just my 2 cents

baybike

So, would replacing bread with oatcakes be a good subsitution?

To the OP...I'd drop the 'couple of biscuits' before I dropped the bread!!

I also use quinoa in place of spuds or pasta...with some imagination it can be quite tasty. Ok, some imagination and a lot of curry powder!!;)

Khannie

baybike wrote: »

So, would replacing bread with oatcakes be a good subsitution?

I was only pointing out that people live long, healthy lives and also eat oats (i.e. oats wont do you any harm) which are a grain. I think there is such a thing as decent bread, but Colm disagrees. He sees black and white and I see grey.

baybike wrote: »

To the OP...I'd drop the 'couple of biscuits' before I dropped the bread!!

I've said this before, and I'll say it again....personally I would _never_ give up eating biscuits. I think that life should involve treats and my daily treat is a biscuit with my coffee. Nyom. :pac:........

Vamoose Killers

I still have loads of treats. During the week I'll keep a pretty strict diet, and would continue this in to the weekend but if I go to the cinema at the weekend I wouldn't be surprised if I ate a large bag of M&Ms, large tub of Ben&Jerries, large Milka bar, other bars thrown in and some popcorn. And a glass of water to balance things out.

I'm still below 10% bf so I can afford to do this every so often...that's what I keep telling myself anyway.

rubadub

nice_guy80 wrote: »

22%? did not know that. though i do have tescos reduced sugar bran flakes. might just replace them with some muesli so

Read the small print on the side of the packet, not the big print on the front

All the info is there. I spotted some tesco "Healthy living sultana bran" my sister had, it was loaded with sugar too. Watch out for the museli too, many have added sugars, as well as natural sugars from dried fruit. I know flanhavans Hi-8 is often recommended here, it is on offer in tesco at the moment.

Also museli is just oats nuts & fruit. You can add your own fresh fruit & nuts to make you own to your own taste, holland & barret do dried fruit too (again check for added sugar).

There is a thread here discussing reading labels, and tricks to watch for.

corkcomp

Vamoose Killers wrote: »

I still have loads of treats. During the week I'll keep a pretty strict diet, and would continue this in to the weekend but if I go to the cinema at the weekend I wouldn't be surprised if I ate a large bag of M&Ms, large tub of Ben&Jerries, large Milka bar, other bars thrown in and some popcorn. And a glass of water to balance things out.

I'm still below 10% bf so I can afford to do this every so often...that's what I keep telling myself anyway.

id second that .. there is room for treats in most peoples routines if you are working hard enough .. my daily calorie intake to maintain is around 4000 and I dont see any harm in allowing 500 (on a good day!!!) of that for not so healthy foods ... Regarding the bread + grains, I went from 29% to 12% BF while having 2 or three slices of wholemeal bread and lots of porridge every day so I see no reason to deprive myself of healthy carbs

nice_guy80

they are only rich tea biscuits. ffs!