HDMI 1080 what connection to buy?

ferdyfish

i have a bravia 1080 and use for xbox the picture is that "mind blowing", do i have to buy an xbox connection lead to hook up a hdmi cable that i have to the tv? as there is no hdmi connection on back of xbox!
i have the switch on xbox lead to "hdtv" but my question is does the picture improve if i buy an XCM xbox hdmi cable connection?

duploelabs

ferdyfish wrote: »

i have a bravia 1080 and use for xbox the picture is that "mind blowing", do i have to buy an xbox connection lead to hook up a hdmi cable that i have to the tv? as there is no hdmi connection on back of xbox!
i have the switch on xbox lead to "hdtv" but my question is does the picture improve if i buy an XCM xbox hdmi cable connection?

Just use the composite lead (red, green, blue) into the back of your tv and then the red and white audio leads. You'll get 1080p from that.

@BlitzKrieg sticky please?

Korvanica

Or if youve a vga adapter on your tv use this:

Xbox 360 Vga

I use it and picture is excellent

Pity there isnt a proper one for the playstation3

duploelabs

duploelabs wrote: »

Just use the composite lead (red, green, blue) into the back of your tv and then the red and white audio leads. You'll get 1080p from that.

@BlitzKrieg sticky please?

You mean Component.

dazftw

duploelabs wrote: »

Just use the composite lead (red, green, blue) into the back of your tv and then the red and white audio leads. You'll get 1080p from that.

@BlitzKrieg sticky please?

You cant get 1080P from the componet cables! I had a HDMI cable that let me use 1080P but went back to the componet cable to use the optical output for my speakers and I can only pick 1080i!

bucks73

I think you can. My TV shows a 1080p res when at the dashboard and I have it connected via component.

It may actually depend on the particular TV and if that set accepts a 1080p signal via component. Just looked up my TVs specs and it states under special features that it does accept 1080p on the HDMI and component. Other sets may only accept 1080p thru the HDMI.

duploelabs

cisk wrote: »

You mean Component.

yes, long day

Vyse

bucks73 wrote: »

I think you can. My TV shows a 1080p res when at the dashboard and I have it connected via component.

It may actually depend on the particular TV and if that set accepts a 1080p signal via component. Just looked up my TVs specs and it states under special features that it does accept 1080p on the HDMI and component. Other sets may only accept 1080p thru the HDMI.

Yep, it depends on the TV model. I use to disply 1080p through component on my PS3. Most Samsungs will do it no problems.

docentore

duploelabs wrote: »

Just use the composite lead (red, green, blue) into the back of your tv and then the red and white audio leads. You'll get 1080p from that.

@BlitzKrieg sticky please?

I have an idea. As most of us know, there is no major difference between component and HDMI I'd like to propose to do a some kind of comparison.
Like xbox connected to the same tv using 3 different interfaces (component, vga and HDMI).
Make a proper macro photos on edges etc.
As I don't have a proper setup at home, just standard crt tv I can't do that, but I will be happy to help with such a project. I can borrow photospectrometer + software from job to measure if there is any difference in colours (delta) but obviously I can't do it on my setup.

What do you all think about that? It would be deffinive end of questions like 'what should I take' and answers 'get HDMI far more superior because its DIGITAL'

duploelabs

Not forgetting you get the HDCP 'handshake' between devices with HDMI, but not with VGA or Component

ShiverinEskimo

I imagine there's very little difference between Component and HDMI (I certainly didn't notice the difference anyways)

I chose to use Component because the stupid way the HDMI prevents the use of the optical out for sound (5.1 receiver doesn't have HDMI). I certainly didn't notice any difference.

Also the majority of games output in 720p max afaik - the xbox upscales to 1080p so there won't be a massive difference depending on cable.

See here for a (slightly outdated but relevant) list of games that are actual 1080p and those which are 720p but upscale to 1080p:

http://www.makeyougohmm.com/xbox360-1080p-games/

manufan16

I chose to use Component because the stupid way the HDMI prevents the use of the optical out for sound (5.1 receiver doesn't have HDMI). I certainly didn't notice any difference.

If you take the grey casing off the component lead it reveals a silver casing that you can use at the same time as HDMI lead so you can have hdmi for video and optical for sound. my receiver did not pass sound through on hdmi so I had to do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptCB_3DOz4

ferdyfish

the older xbox360 model i have does not have a hdmi connection in the back so im playing using the normal connection with switch option "tv"or hdtv" it works when i have it to "tv" and the yellow red white into a scart connection. when i switch to "hdtv" on the xbox cable it doesnt work. the xbox power light goes to red. with no picture.
how do i get rid of scart and connect the red yellow red white to the bravia?!!
i have no red green blue cables!
i connect the white red for audio ya? sound works but any other avaible hole on back of bravia for the white of the trio doesnt work!
the component connections on back of 1080 tv are from bottom: red -R, yellow-L, red- Pr /Cr black -Pb/ Cb , black -Y
. i cant get any of the top three to work with the yellow input. i presume i have the bottom red n white input correct as sound works.
not sure this post is making sense to ye, but hope i get a reply from someone with the same tv type as me.

ShiverinEskimo

Well I did the slight modification and it works fine but I discovered something very annoying.

The Xbox reboots each time the HDMI port becomes active. I was playing Far Cry 2 over the HDMI, I paused, having not saved in a while, and switched over to Sky to watch the Ireland match, when I went back to the input for the xbox and the video connection went live again the ****in xbox reboots to initialise it again. Lost about an hours gaming.

Sickened.

Darksaga87

Full HD ony comes from HDMI connection. componant will give you 720/1080i.
Componant on xbox is still very good, but you know it can be better with proper connection.

Jev/N

As I said on a previous thread, if you don't have the updated 360 core/premium with the HDMI connection, you can buy an Xbox 360 -> HDMI connection. I'm gonna get one soon but dunno if they sell them in town, just seen them on the Xbox site

duploelabs

Darksaga87 wrote: »

Full HD ony comes from HDMI connection. componant will give you 720/1080i.
Componant on xbox is still very good, but you know it can be better with proper connection.

:rolleyes:
Component will transmit up to 1080p and is just as good as HDMI, the drawback is that you don't get HDCP and sound on the same cable

Darksaga87

Then why not call them HD componant?

docentore

component cable does 1080i only with Hd-Dvd's. It does 1080p in games according to this.

duploelabs

docentore wrote: »

component cable does 1080i only with Hd-Dvd's. It does 1080p in games according to this.

Ah yes, HD-DVD. A format for the future

Jev/N

Also it's only the HD VGA or HDMI that will upscale DVDs to 1080p

duploelabs

Jev/N wrote: »

Also it's only the HD VGA or HDMI that will upscale DVDs to 1080p

touche

docentore

but component cable is still capable of doing 1080p in games tough.

And also saying that HD-DVD is dead format is not relevant in the discussion.

Component connection is as good as HDMI! Just because there is HD in HDMI doesn't mean that component isn't HD.

Darksaga87

There is not a huge differance in HDMI and componant. But there is a differance.
Its like saying there is no differance between composite and componant. A cable make a hell of a differance when you haave the right tv.

docentore

Darksaga87 wrote: »

There is not a huge differance in HDMI and componant. But there is a differance.
Its like saying there is no differance between composite and componant. A cable make a hell of a differance when you haave the right tv.

Oh man. Its COMPONENT and there is huge difference between composite and component. First is Standard definition connection second one is High Definition connection.

to the rest, whatever, there will be always one saying "HDMI is better 'cause its digital and the difference is huuuge'. I would really love to do a test proposed on the first page, I don't have proper TV at the moment to test it.

duploelabs

Darksaga87 wrote: »

There is not a huge differance in HDMI and componant. But there is a differance.
Its like saying there is no differance between composite and componant. A cable make a hell of a differance when you haave the right tv.

Oh man, bet richer sounds cable department see you coming a mile off

Darksaga87

docentore wrote: »

Oh man. Its COMPONENT and there is huge difference between composite and component. First is Standard definition connection second one is High Definition connection.

to the rest, whatever, there will be always one saying "HDMI is better 'cause its digital and the difference is huuuge'. I would really love to do a test proposed on the first page, I don't have proper TV at the moment to test it.

Ive done a test using a blu-ray player and full hd tv.
Also who said componANT and composite has no differance.:p

docentore

Darksaga87 wrote: »

Ive done a test using a blu-ray player and full hd tv.
Also who said componANT and composite has no differance.:p

again it is called component connection, and this thread is in xbox forum not blu-ray.

Darksaga87

docentore wrote: »

again it is called component connection, and this thread is in xbox forum not blu-ray.

I know, im doing it to annoy you.:P

docentore

Darksaga87 wrote: »

I know, im doing it to annoy you.:P

Please, please please stop doing that. I'm so easilly getting annoyed

Darksaga87

Ah we have a good back and forth.

acquiescefc

HI.... question as im getting a new fancy schmancy tv and im a little bit unsavvy.

The chunky grey cable going from xbox to tv currently is covering HDMI port so i cant connect both at same time.
A, Would i be able to connect to new tv as it is? Assume this is what you refer to as 'component cable'. or can i use HDMI cable instead of the grey one but i would lose sound you say?

Think i have another Q but its gone for the moment.

Knasher

Personally I definitely notice the difference between component and hdmi. When I first switched to hdmi, the colours of the image looked much more vibrant. Resolution wise, obviously they are completely comparable.

acquiescefc wrote:

The chunky grey cable going from xbox to tv currently is covering HDMI port so i cant connect both at same time.
A, Would i be able to connect to new tv as it is? Assume this is what you refer to as 'component cable'. or can i use HDMI cable instead of the grey one but i would lose sound you say?

You chose one or the other, component or hdmi. The difference is that sound is carried over the hdmi cable (either stereo or surround), whereas it is split for component (either you use the red and white coaxial cable for stereo or optical for surround).

Darksaga87

Is the HDMI cable that comes with xbox any good? i never used it and lost, i use a monster hdmi now.

andy1249

Listen to the experts , the part about picture quality is about 2 minutes in ,

http://www.avforums.com/tv/index.php?videoid=121

Theres no picture or audio difference over HDMI , its completely impossible , monster cables are a scam , if you pay more than a tenner for a cable youve been had.

Darksaga87

betafrog wrote: »

So the one that comes with your XBox would be just as good as the Monster cable you bought.

Bought???:D:p

budhabob

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

Well I did the slight modification and it works fine but I discovered something very annoying.

The Xbox reboots each time the HDMI port becomes active. I was playing Far Cry 2 over the HDMI, I paused, having not saved in a while, and switched over to Sky to watch the Ireland match, when I went back to the input for the xbox and the video connection went live again the ****in xbox reboots to initialise it again. Lost about an hours gaming.

Sickened.

Ya, i noticed this with far cry 2, was fortunate not to lose anything, was loading the xbox but noticed the controller wouldnt connect until i changed to the HDMI.

Gelio

Does anyone know how much HDMI cables should cost? And does anyone know the price of them in Xtra-Vision?

docentore

ajeffares wrote: »

Does anyone know how much HDMI cables should cost? And does anyone know the price of them in Xtra-Vision?

around 5-8 euro in Argos. As good as those Monster cables costing 60 euro

Ricky91t

Tesco value cable ftw :pac:

TONY T

Korvanica wrote: »

Or if youve a vga adapter on your tv use this:

Xbox 360 Vga

I use it and picture is excellent

Pity there isnt a proper one for the playstation3

Being computer illiterate does the cable with the three coloured points not do for HDMI or do I need another cable now for better pictures

fox007

Originally Posted by Korvanica View Post
Or if youve a vga adapter on your tv use this:

Xbox 360 Vga

I use it and picture is excellent

Pity there isnt a proper one for the playstation3

where is the chrapiest place to buy a vga cable and how much lads? just a shop dont want to wait for postage etc

sierraecho

docentore wrote: »

around 5-8 euro in Argos. As good as those Monster cables costing 60 euro

What, I never thought to look in Argos. Paid €30 for mine in PC world (Which was the cheapest) Will make sure to shop around more next time.
But at least the picture looks great.

HDMI is a Digital connection ie: 0`s & 1`s.

So once the 0`s & 1`s are getting to and from the 360 it makes no difference, once the build quality of the cable is decent any will do.

Darksaga87

I have a mate who is completely technology blind, doent know or care about any of it.

He has a full HD tv which he didnt know what HD was it was just "a flat tv". he still uses scart to connect everything, including the xbox, he still had the hdmi cable in the box.

"sure whats that? dont need that, have the scart cable!"

i was like.... what!!!

So i changed it up for him, best settings for the console and tv. His jaw dropped. Stuck on GOW2 to show it off.

he now has sky HD.

fox007

fox007 wrote: »

Originally Posted by Korvanica View Post
Or if youve a vga adapter on your tv use this:

Xbox 360 Vga

I use it and picture is excellent

Pity there isnt a proper one for the playstation3

where is the chrapiest place to buy a vga cable and how much lads? just a shop dont want to wait for postage etc

??

duploelabs

Darksaga87 wrote: »

I have a mate who is completely technology blind, doent know or care about any of it.

He has a full HD tv which he didnt know what HD was it was just "a flat tv". he still uses scart to connect everything, including the xbox, he still had the hdmi cable in the box.

"sure whats that? dont need that, have the scart cable!"

i was like.... what!!!

So i changed it up for him, best settings for the console and tv. His jaw dropped. Stuck on GOW2 to show it off.

he now has sky HD.

those kind of people make little technology jesus cry

vwfox

Does an xbox 360 with hdmi on it give out better quailty than one that does not have hdmi written on the back?

and whats the difference between them?

Makaveli

No.

The difference is the older 360s don't have a HDMI connection, you can connect using composite, component or VGA. The HDMI 360s can be connected using these too but also have the HDMI connection.

rocco

Guys just a quick one if you attach your xbox to your HD tv with just the HDMI cable does it carry the video and audio or do you require additional cables for the audio? Not quiet sure from reading all the comments and have seen some clips like the one below which uses an additionl cables for audio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFCmlfAm6kU&feature=related

emrys

rocco wrote: »

Guys just a quick one if you attach your xbox to your HD tv with just the HDMI cable does it carry the video and audio or do you require additional cables for the audio? Not quiet sure from reading all the comments and have seen some clips like the one below which uses an additionl cables for audio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFCmlfAm6kU&feature=related

i picked one up recently - the HDMI cable carries video and audio - no need for additional cables.