Advice alaskan mute/huskey

tv3

Hi,

I bought a alaskan mute/huskey today from a pet shop but im looking for advice as was origanally looking for a smaller dog but i fell in love with the alaskan mute/huskey when i seen her.Its a cross of both but the shop didnt give papers or anything to prove what she was,should i of got something??thanks

tv3

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andreac

If its a cross then you wont get papers as only pedigree dogs will come with papers.
When you say a shop, what exactly do you mean, coz its not that common to find dogs being sold in pet shops.

Sorry just realised its prob not a cross, is it a pedigree alaskan malamute? what did the breeder say when you were buying it? was it advertised as coming with papers? was it a pup or older dog?

tv3

Ye a pet shop.Do you know much about these dogs actually bitches??

andreac

No, ive never owned one. I know that they require a lot of exercise though. How come you got a dog from a pet shop, most people would get a dog through a breeder or from a rescue centre. Did you get any health certs/vaccination records with the dog?

ISDW

You really should have done your research before buying this dog. Alaskan malamutes and siberian huskies are quite specialist dogs. Once fully grown, they need a lot of exercise, they were bred to pull sleds, malamutes are bigger, being bred to pull loads for long journeys, built for stamina, and siberians are smaller, bred to pull loads quickly, built more for speed. They need a fully enclosed, secure garden, and by secure, I mean with fencing of at least 6 foot, and secure at the bottom as they also like to dig. They should never be let off the lead in an unenclosed area, as they will run and not come back, no matter how much work you have put into their recall. They may come back sometimes, but then they will get a scent, or see something off in the distance, and that will be it, off they go.

They are lovely dogs with people, but malamutes can sometimes be difficult with other dogs of the same gender.

You won't get any papers at all with a crossbreed. I would advise that you take the pup to a vet as well tomorrow and get it checked out, and then start getting the vaccinations asap.

tv3

ISDW wrote: »

You really should have done your research before buying this dog. Alaskan malamutes and siberian huskies are quite specialist dogs. Once fully grown, they need a lot of exercise, they were bred to pull sleds, malamutes are bigger, being bred to pull loads for long journeys, built for stamina, and siberians are smaller, bred to pull loads quickly, built more for speed. They need a fully enclosed, secure garden, and by secure, I mean with fencing of at least 6 foot, and secure at the bottom as they also like to dig. They should never be let off the lead in an unenclosed area, as they will run and not come back, no matter how much work you have put into their recall. They may come back sometimes, but then they will get a scent, or see something off in the distance, and that will be it, off they go.

They are lovely dogs with people, but malamutes can sometimes be difficult with other dogs of the same gender.

You won't get any papers at all with a crossbreed. I would advise that you take the pup to a vet as well tomorrow and get it checked out, and then start getting the vaccinations asap.

Yea there are some pet shops local that sell dogs,also the shop owner said thad as its a cross that it will be a excellent house dog..

ISDW

tv3 wrote: »

Yea there are some pet shops local that sell dogs,also the shop owner said thad as its a cross that it will be a excellent house dog..

I'm a bit confused by that statement, because it would depend what the cross is, whether a dog would be a good house dog or not surely. Basically as its a cross between two northern breeds, you've got a northern dog and need to be aware of the issues with those dogs. As I say, they are great with people, make lousy guard dogs as they generally love everybody and anybody but, if not given enough stimulation, they can be very, very destructive.

There is a lot of very good advice out there, if you check out the Siberian Husky Club of Great Britain website, there is good info, the good points and the bad of the breed.

Magenta

OP did you do any research on this before buying the dog or was the dog an impulse/spur of the moment thing?

TechnoPool

sounds like you really bought it on impulse.

If you really arent prepared for one of these dogs and dont have the time needed to look after one, i wouldn't recommend it at all for you.


Wont be fair on you or the dog.

Morganna

These dogs are specialist dogs.They do not come back when called only when it suits them.they need a lot of exercise can be difficult with other dogs and can be hyper basically just confirming what the other posters have said.

Kaldorn

ill take her off your hands if you cant handle her.

tv3

Morganna wrote: »

These dogs are specialist dogs.They do not come back when called only when it suits them.they need a lot of exercise can be difficult with other dogs and can be hyper basically just confirming what the other posters have said.

Specialist...Thats the first ive heard as ive also being onto the alaskan mute/huskey kennel club of ireland and they say the opposite of what posters say hear about "specialist dogs","hyper"...so not sure where they came from

tv3

Morganna wrote: »

These dogs are specialist dogs.They do not come back when called only when it suits them.they need a lot of exercise can be difficult with other dogs and can be hyper basically just confirming what the other posters have said.

Were did ya get that info from??

bushy...

tv3 wrote: »

Were did ya get that info from??

Stop and think for yourself for a minute.

For the last few thousand years some types of dog from that side of the planet have been bred for work. If you get a "real" one , he's not going to be all "normal" just because you feed him pedigree chum instead of seal or something.

TechnoPool

tv3 wrote: »

Were did ya get that info from??

well maybe with it being the truth?

koneko

I really wish people would do their research.

I can tell you from EXPERIENCE they're not beginners dogs (I have both breeds). They need a lot of exercise, they need a lot of stimulation, you can't just have 1 and keep him in the house, walk him 10 minutes a day and expect no trouble ("trouble" in this case being an unhappy destructive lonely dog). I would find it very hard to believe the Husky or Malamute club wouldn't tell you details about why these dogs aren't recommended for the average person. I'm sure ISDW can tell you more, since she has to take in dogs all the time that people just "couldn't handle" anymore.

ISDW

tv3 wrote: »

Specialist...Thats the first ive heard as ive also being onto the alaskan mute/huskey kennel club of ireland and they say the opposite of what posters say hear about "specialist dogs","hyper"...so not sure where they came from

There is no alaskan mute/husky kennel club, there is an Alaskan Malamute club and there is a Siberian husky club, both of which would most definitely tell you about the breed traits of both dogs, I know the secretaries of the clubs, and know the kind of information that they give people.

I run a rescue for these breeds and do get a lot of them into me because people bought them because they are very cute as puppies, but they didn't do their research into how they grow up.

I am definitely not saying that you won't cope with the dog, if you listen to the advice from people in the know, then I'm sure you and the dog will be absolutely fine and will have a long and happy life together. We are trying to organise scootering days/weekends, the first one is coming up on the bank holiday weekend in Roscommon, which is a great way to exercise these dogs. Once yours is old enough, you should come along and have a go, great fun.

Did you manage to get the pup to a vet to have it checked over?

adser53

I sincerely hope this ad isn't connected to OP!!!!

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/dogs/904399

kassie

:mad: i wish ppl would read up on things before buying!!!

igglou

I know there are foolish people out there, but I am finding it very hard to believe that this is a real post. Skeptical maybe, but I hope I'm right.

ISDW

adser53 wrote: »

I sincerely hope this ad isn't connected to OP!!!!

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/dogs/904399

Ah no. I'd say the chances of them being connected are pretty high! Gorgeous little pup, but seriously, €525 for a crossbreed?

Hi Adser, didn't realise you were on here as well:D

adser53

ISDW wrote: »

Ah no. I'd say the chances of them being connected are pretty high! Gorgeous little pup, but seriously, €525 for a crossbreed?

Hi Adser, didn't realise you were on here as well:D

Hi Bram, I'm more of a lurker here, can only handle one board at a time lol

Just had to post up though cos if they are related I'm seriously angry :mad:

cloudy day

There's a rather large Sibe Husky breeding kennels in Roscommon who has now started training dogs for pulling. Maybe she can give you advice on training.

I didn't think people still sold from pet shops. Very unethical.

I rescued a Sibe bitch, she's massive so prob actually a Malamute/Sibe cross, she was too strong for the woman. I've had no prob's with her. She's placid relaxed and docile, comes when she's called loves attention and looks down her nose at the other dogs as I'm sure she thinks she's far superior to them. she lie around for the best part of the day. although we do have a lot of space for her to run when she wants to.

Dusty87

Had to laugh at that add. Selling because daughter afraid although is not hyper, may swop for boxer puppy.

ISDW

Dusty87 wrote: »

Had to laugh at that add. Selling because daughter afraid although is not hyper, may swop for boxer puppy.

I know, cos boxers are just sooooooooooooo much smaller aren't they, and so quiet.

bonnygirl

i was up in a pet shop on the long mile rd yesterday and actually saw one of these pups being sold. first of all i wont be buying anything in that shop cause over the last few months i have seen dozens of pups being sold in this shop. even if they are pedigree he doesnt have papers for them and why would a dog breeder sell their dogs to a petshop it makes u wonder are they from puppy farms? the turn over of pups in that shop is unreal.i have often gone up on a fri were there might be 8 pups and by saturday they are gone!!
its a disgrace when there is so many unwanted dogs in the pound that do be put down if not rehomed in a certain number of days and the dspca which do amazing work are over run with dogs of all sizes and different breeds needing loving homes. id love to know were he gets all the pups from! the dogs themselves look in good condition but never have i seen a bed for them or a toy for them to play with in the enclosures. the pup that was left after the husky cross was sold was just left in the enclosure with nothing to occupy himself with.
the owner of wackers in my opinion doesnt give a dam about the animals just in it for the money.
also even more distressing was next to the enclosure of the pups was an enclosure with lemurs (type of monkey). about3 of them huddled in the corner scared out of their minds. they are normally seen in the zoo. again why would he sell these only to make money ye people might think oh it would be nice to own a monkey and have no objections if ppl have knowledge of them that will be dedicated 100% for looking after their needs but the reality is not that simple.
these poor animals will be sold to whoever has the cash at the time no home check will be done on the people etc god only knows what the future will hold for these poor animals put in this situation all for profit.

igglou

Hi Bonnygirl,

I'd just be careful about naming and shaming asI'm not sure it's allowed on here. One of the Mods will set us straight I'm sure.

Welcome to Boards.ie though!

bonnygirl

oh sorry i have seen the shop been menchioned before didnt realise.:o

I find this so irrisponcible to do and i hate pet shops who do this. My guy is 6 months now and so much work . He is actually a good dog and has learned alot but at times will not bother to listen to me.
If i grab a biscuit he listens. I wont try him off the lead : )

bonnygirl

oh ye the food bribing always works.. actually have a 3 month deaf dog so she will never listen to me its all hand signals.. will take alot longer to train than the norm but she will come and sit so we are getting there

tv3

TechnoPool wrote: »

well maybe with it being the truth?

koneko wrote: »

I really wish people would do their research.

I can tell you from EXPERIENCE they're not beginners dogs (I have both breeds). They need a lot of exercise, they need a lot of stimulation, you can't just have 1 and keep him in the house, walk him 10 minutes a day and expect no trouble ("trouble" in this case being an unhappy destructive lonely dog). I would find it very hard to believe the Husky or Malamute club wouldn't tell you details about why these dogs aren't recommended for the average person. I'm sure ISDW can tell you more, since she has to take in dogs all the time that people just "couldn't handle" anymore.

adser53 wrote: »

I sincerely hope this ad isn't connected to OP!!!!

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/dogs/904399

kassie wrote: »

:mad: i wish ppl would read up on things before buying!!!

ISDW wrote: »

Ah no. I'd say the chances of them being connected are pretty high! Gorgeous little pup, but seriously, €525 for a crossbreed?

Hi Adser, didn't realise you were on here as well:D

Firstly alot of people here as i can clearly see know nothing about the dog.

I did do research on him as this is another way here,by asking questions...:rolleyes:

Beginner dog.....There is know such thing as the alaskan malamute club also informed me when i mentioned that i was ""told"" there a ""specialist"" dog..;)funny someone would even think of that never mind saying it.

And finally NO that is not my dog as i only bought him..not selling him:cool: !

tv3

Deleted User wrote: »

I find this so irrisponcible to do and i hate pet shops who do this. My guy is 6 months now and so much work . He is actually a good dog and has learned alot but at times will not bother to listen to me.
If i grab a biscuit he listens. I wont try him off the lead : )

Is he the same breed??

andreac

But did you research the breeder? see the parents of the pup? get all the health certs/vaccination cards?
I doubt it if the pup was bought in a pet shop, that is not a good place to buy a pup.

tv3

andreac wrote: »

But did you research the breeder? see the parents of the pup? get all the health certs/vaccination cards?
I doubt it if the pup was bought in a pet shop, that is not a good place to buy a pup.

Yes i seen the parents before i bought her,and she was in the blue cross yesterday and is in perfect condition thanks

Morganna

why did u come on here asking for advice then ridicule it .the malamute is not a beginners dog

tv3

Morganna wrote: »

why did u come on here asking for advice then ridicule it .the malamute is not a beginners dog

Am i not allowed get advice from more than 1 person..??:eek:

Define a beginners dog as ive never heard of one??

igglou

The best place to start is to find out what the dog was originally bred for. If its a dog bred as a companion such as the Cavalier King Charles then you know they require less work than something bred to work like a border collie or your Malamute.

Other dogs from the toy group also make good beginner dogs for that same reason, they do not need as much exercise and don't cost as much to keep in food, vet care, worming, flea treatments (all cost more the bigger the dog) , pet insurance and so on.

Your dog will also require a lot of grooming, expensive fencing, careful watching as is already proven they do not take to learning recall and are very fast when they take off.

Not my idea of an easy or beginner dog. I'd prefer one that can walk along beside you off the lead in the fields and having the run of my garden.

Another good place to start is a proper rescue centre who assess all the dogs in their care, know their temperment and can find a dog to suit your home, life and work commitments.

Just as it's important never to walk in and buy any pet on impulse, it's even more important when it comes to dogs.

igglou

tv3 wrote: »

I bought a alaskan mute/huskey today from a pet shop but im looking for advice as was origanally looking for a smaller dog but i fell in love with the alaskan mute/huskey when i seen her.

tv3 wrote: »

I did do research on him as this is another way here,by asking questions...:rolleyes:

Your first post clearly states that you went in with the original intention of buying a smaller dog and then it was love at first sight when you saw the Mal/Husky. This to me would say you did no research on the breed of dog you just purchased.

Secondly, your other quote is basically shutting the stable after the horse has bolted asking questions on what experienced people have already stated are a handful of a breed of dog.

Also, researching any new dog should involve contacting reputable breeders and getting all relevant paper work such as Vaccination certs when you collect the dog from the place he/she was bred and spent the first valuable 8-10weeks of its life.

peasant

tv3 wrote: »

Define a beginners dog as ive never heard of one??

There is no such thing as a beginners dog, as you shouldn't really learn by doing when it comes to dogs, but learn as much as you can first and then get one. However ..

...sometimes size does matter


now add to that well know traits of the breed like great physical strength, a certain stubborness/resistiveness to training, a strong hunting instinct and a dubious recall and you'll just see why a Malamute definetly isn't a beginners dog.

ISDW

tv3 wrote: »

Firstly alot of people here as i can clearly see know nothing about the dog.

I did do research on him as this is another way here,by asking questions...:rolleyes:

Beginner dog.....There is know such thing as the alaskan malamute club also informed me when i mentioned that i was ""told"" there a ""specialist"" dog..;)funny someone would even think of that never mind saying it.

And finally NO that is not my dog as i only bought him..not selling him:cool: !

Well I'm really glad that its not your dog on donedeal.

I'm really confused, are you saying there is no such thing as the Alaskan Malamute Club? As you say know, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. I know the secretary of the malamute club, and if you spoke to her, and as she is down as the point of contact from the IKC then I'm sure you did, I have spoken to her many, many times about people not doing research about mals. I know what she tells people who go to view any of her pups, so this is very confusing. Your story has changed big time since you started this thread so I'm not sure what the truth is.

Anyway, you are obviously the expert here, having just bought a cross breed, the crosses of which you can't even name properly, and the rest of us who have experience of both of these breeds know absolutely nothing. Fair enough.

tv3

ISDW wrote: »

Well I'm really glad that its not your dog on donedeal.

I'm really confused, are you saying there is no such thing as the Alaskan Malamute Club? As you say know, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. I know the secretary of the malamute club, and if you spoke to her, and as she is down as the point of contact from the IKC then I'm sure you did, I have spoken to her many, many times about people not doing research about mals. I know what she tells people who go to view any of her pups, so this is very confusing. Your story has changed big time since you started this thread so I'm not sure what the truth is.

Anyway, you are obviously the expert here, having just bought a cross breed, the crosses of which you can't even name properly, and the rest of us who have experience of both of these breeds know absolutely nothing. Fair enough.

Well when i read your posts:rolleyes:you seem to be the expert..possibly born one buy the looks of it !

Im not sure what you are trying to say,but i asked a simple question at the start of this thread and you are hear acting the human malamute that "seems" to know it all,so please only reply if you are helping instead of wasting the space !;)

tv3

igglou wrote: »

The best place to start is to find out what the dog was originally bred for. If its a dog bred as a companion such as the Cavalier King Charles then you know they require less work than something bred to work like a border collie or your Malamute.

Other dogs from the toy group also make good beginner dogs for that same reason, they do not need as much exercise and don't cost as much to keep in food, vet care, worming, flea treatments (all cost more the bigger the dog) , pet insurance and so on.

Your dog will also require a lot of grooming, expensive fencing, careful watching as is already proven they do not take to learning recall and are very fast when they take off.

Not my idea of an easy or beginner dog. I'd prefer one that can walk along beside you off the lead in the fields and having the run of my garden.

Another good place to start is a proper rescue centre who assess all the dogs in their care, know their temperment and can find a dog to suit your home, life and work commitments.

Just as it's important never to walk in and buy any pet on impulse, it's even more important when it comes to dogs.

Yea ok

adser53

tv3 wrote:

i fell in love with the alaskan mute/huskey when i seen her.Its a cross of both but the shop didnt give papers or anything to prove what she was

tv3 wrote:

And finally NO that is not my dog as i only bought him..not selling him

tv3 wrote:

Yes i seen the parents before i bought her,and she was in the blue cross yesterday and is in perfect condition thanks

tv3 wrote:

I did do research on him as this is another way here,by asking questions..

Ok first of all, is it a dog or bitch cos your going back and forward between the two. You said "she" at the beginning, clearly said it was an impulse buy, got the name of the breed wrong to begin with (Alaskan Malamute, not alaskan mute) , you said you bought the pup in a petshop and you originally said you wanted a smaller dog.

Now I'm not calling you a liar or anything like that but I'm sure you can appreciate us presuming the worst when we saw that amazingly coincidental ad on donedeal!

You now say you researched the breed and saw it's parents? How do you research an impulse buy? This doesn't count, you already have the dog but well done for trying now. And I may be wrong here but I have never heard of the parent dogs being in a petshop too.

Also, regarding the "beginner dog" / specialist dog talk, call it what you will, the core fact is, these dogs require training and handling on a level far beyond a lab, cavalier king charles etc. This is why they are called specialist dogs because you need to have a good deal of knowledge for both you and the dog to coexist properly. Otherwise you'll end up with a bored, unhappy, destructive dog that does what he (or she????) likes and could even end up being aggressive due to lack of care and training. You have to put in the effort from day 1, be consistant and not let up because it'll only end in tears if you do.And don't leave it out the back to be forgotten about.

I'm speaking of my experience with my akita. If you research them, you'll see they share similar traits and believe me, I researched A LOT before I got him and I've worked hard with him. The end result being I have one of the greatest dogs I've ever known.

Good luck

adser53

tv3 wrote: »

Well when i read your posts:rolleyes:you seem to be the expert..possibly born one buy the looks of it !

Im not sure what you are trying to say,but i asked a simple question at the start of this thread and you are hear acting the human malamute that "seems" to know it all,so please only reply if you are helping instead of wasting the space !;)

Wake up man! ISDW stands for Irish Sled Dog Welfare!!! This person runs a rescue for dogs, exacly like yours, that idiots buy without researching and then toss them out. If anyone on here is the expert, it's her and she deserves your respect! I also pray you never have eat your words and bring your dog to her cos your not able for him, her , whatever

ISDW

tv3 wrote: »

Well when i read your posts:rolleyes:you seem to be the expert..possibly born one buy the looks of it !

Im not sure what you are trying to say,but i asked a simple question at the start of this thread and you are hear acting the human malamute that "seems" to know it all,so please only reply if you are helping instead of wasting the space !;)

I've never claimed to be an expert, I'm certainly not one, but I'm learning all the time. Its just that I do deal with the mal club and what you're saying doesn't add up at all.

OK, what help do you need? Sorry, I'll have to go back and reread your posts to see what question it was that you asked. I thought you were looking for advice that lots and lots of people have given you and you have rejected every single piece. So please, if you have any specific questions, ask them and I and everyone else who has any knowledge of either breed will do their best to answer them. But, if you don't like the answers, then maybe you'd better not ask the questions.

Its been an interesting thread though, you really do know how to get people going;)

Call me Socket

Is this your very first dog tv3?

tv3

ISDW wrote: »

I've never claimed to be an expert, I'm certainly not one, but I'm learning all the time. Its just that I do deal with the mal club and what you're saying doesn't add up at all.

OK, what help do you need? Sorry, I'll have to go back and reread your posts to see what question it was that you asked. I thought you were looking for advice that lots and lots of people have given you and you have rejected every single piece. So please, if you have any specific questions, ask them and I and everyone else who has any knowledge of either breed will do their best to answer them. But, if you don't like the answers, then maybe you'd better not ask the questions.

Its been an interesting thread though, you really do know how to get people going;)

Call me Socket wrote: »

Is this your very first dog tv3?

adser53 wrote: »

Ok first of all, is it a dog or bitch cos your going back and forward between the two. You said "she" at the beginning, clearly said it was an impulse buy, got the name of the breed wrong to begin with (Alaskan Malamute, not alaskan mute) , you said you bought the pup in a petshop and you originally said you wanted a smaller dog.

Now I'm not calling you a liar or anything like that but I'm sure you can appreciate us presuming the worst when we saw that amazingly coincidental ad on donedeal!

You now say you researched the breed and saw it's parents? How do you research an impulse buy? This doesn't count, you already have the dog but well done for trying now. And I may be wrong here but I have never heard of the parent dogs being in a petshop too.

Also, regarding the "beginner dog" / specialist dog talk, call it what you will, the core fact is, these dogs require training and handling on a level far beyond a lab, cavalier king charles etc. This is why they are called specialist dogs because you need to have a good deal of knowledge for both you and the dog to coexist properly. Otherwise you'll end up with a bored, unhappy, destructive dog that does what he (or she????) likes and could even end up being aggressive due to lack of care and training. You have to put in the effort from day 1, be consistant and not let up because it'll only end in tears if you do.And don't leave it out the back to be forgotten about.

I'm speaking of my experience with my akita. If you research them, you'll see they share similar traits and believe me, I researched A LOT before I got him and I've worked hard with him. The end result being I have one of the greatest dogs I've ever known.

Good luck

I wana point out that i am not hear to prove or "lower" myself to petty arguments with idiots here ok !

No this is not my 1st dog.

Im not going to get into it anymore as most of the comments hear are childish and smart.At the end of the day i have the dog and can do whatever i want.

Finally i can assure all of you:rolleyes: that the dog is in excellent care and will be for many years to come now can i get this thread closed !

Thank you


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igglou

tv3 wrote: »

At the end of the day i have the dog and can do whatever i want.

Poor dog is all I can say.

And calling the rest of us childish when you storm off cause things aren't going your way

tv3

igglou wrote: »

Poor dog is all I can say.

And calling the rest of us childish when you storm off cause things aren't going your way

Why would you say poor dog brains??

igglou

You answered that yourself throughout this whole thread. You are extremely rude and obnoxious. I'm afraid I won't be entering into any further discussion with you.

I've seen people banned on here for a lot less than your carry on.