Should ALL Drugs Be Legal and Free?

Pat Sheen

Sex is legal and free...unless you pay for it or do it wrong and is one of the most powerful human drives there is. Like drugs, it's both pleasurable and potentially dangerous and nearly everyone does it, like drugs. Why shouldn't drugs have the same status?

If your feeling a rising sense of rage and/or disgust at this statement, my question to you is this.... Assuming that rising sense of rage and/or disgust is because you don't use controlled drugs and believe no-one else should either then, do you smoke tobacco products, drink alcohol, tea, coffee, lucozade, energy drinks or regularly use any one of hundreds of abusable pharmaceutical concotions? ..YES?...well then you are a drug user too.

So take a deep breath and then, think!

It's not like prohibition has made controlled drugs any less available, so by definition they're even less controlled now than they've ever been DESPITE prohibition. Therefore drugs control is a logical fallacy.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.~Albert Einstein

Do we need to think differently?

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.~Albert Einstein

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I think most drugs should be illegal, most drugs are harmfull to some degree, even in moderation.

The lighter drugs suchs as mdna (spelling?) and canibas should be legalised to an extent. Like in holland. Magic mushrooms are legal there too I think?

CaptainSkidmark

yeah and a year later we are all in rehab

AlmightyCushion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPP_yIerTX0

mardybumbum

Whos going to give drugs for free????

bigeasyeah

Yay lets legalise everything-guns,prostitution,rape and maybe a spot of vigilante justice.If I wanted to live in a place like that I d move to Sligo old boy.
The Dutch did similar to what you are proposing.Their government and a sizeable number of their citizenry regret it.
Also why drag poor Einstein into it?

Pat Sheen

The first go is always free

hussey

It's times like these we need a smiley for "Facepalm"

Steve.Pseudonym

Sometimes I really wish I were a mod so I could lock retarded threads like these.

mayordenis

Some people, and I'm not going to name and names here, need to be protected from themselves. The way of protection is by making it illegal to do the stupid things they believe makes them cool.

We don't need to criminalise sex because natural selection general does a fine job.

irisheddie85

legal drugs are either medicinal or highly taxed. if you were to do this to canibis cocaine and even heroin it would move them out of its target audience (the poor) and make the poor sightly more functioning members of society and who wants that?
not the government becuse then they would vote

NoelJ

You can't have too much sex but you can have too much drugs

DonkeyStyle \o/

I think sex should be prescription only.

bigeasyeah

irisheddie85 wrote: »

legal drugs are either medicinal or highly taxed. if you were to do this to canibis cocaine and even heroin it would move them out of its target audience (the poor) and make the poor sightly more functioning members of society and who wants that?
not the government becuse then they would vote

The target market of cocaine is the poor?!
Balderdash.

Fanny Cradock

It's a biased poll.

irisheddie85

bigeasyeah wrote: »

The target market of cocaine is the poor?!
Balderdash.

okay not "poor" but ill educated, and i include myself in this group as i am currently "under the influence"

skyhighflyer

Pat Sheen wrote: »

Assuming that rising sense of rage and/or disgust is because you don't use controlled drugs and believe no-one else should either then, do you smoke tobacco products, drink alcohol, tea, coffee, lucozade, energy drinks or regularly use any one of hundreds of abusable pharmaceutical concotions? ..YES?...well then you are a drug user too.


It's not like prohibition has made controlled drugs any less available, so by definition they're even less controlled now than they've ever been DESPITE prohibition. Therefore drugs control is a logical fallacy.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.~Albert Einstein

Do we need to think differently?

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.~Albert Einstein

You must have been smoking some good **** when you came up with those arguments to back up your point:pac:

First off, someone who drinks coffee or lucozade is not a drug user under any normal definiton of the word.

Secondly, drug control is not a logical fallacy - or do even you understand what that is? Is it easier to get smoke in Ireland or Amsterdam? I think most people will say Amsterdam. Therefore, it's clear that drug control certainly limits access to drugs.

Finally, those Einstein quotes add nothing to your argument and I can't see how they apply.

I'd actually like to see the legalisation of certain drugs but if your arguments are the best that the pro-legalisation lobby has to offer then it'll be a cold day in hell before it happens here.

amacachi

mayordenis wrote: »

We don't need to criminalise sex because natural selection general does a fine job.

I take it you missed this thread then?

Pat Sheen

skyhighflyer wrote: »

You must have been smoking some good **** when you came up with those arguments to back up your point:pac:

First off, someone who drinks coffee or lucozade is not a drug user under any normal definiton of the word.

Secondly, drug control is not a logical fallacy - or do even you understand what that is? Is it easier to get smoke in Ireland or Amsterdam? I think most people will say Amsterdam. Therefore, it's clear that drug control certainly limits access to drugs.

Finally, those Einstein quotes add nothing to your argument and I can't see how they apply.

I'd actually like to see the legalisation of certain drugs but if your arguments are the best that the pro-legalisation lobby has to offer then it'll be a cold day in hell before it happens here.

I was drunk. Caffeine is a drug by all senses of the word and coffee and lucozade both contain it. I think it is probably a lot easier to get smoke in Amsterdam than Dublin, but is it harder to get smoke today, in Ireland, than it was say ten years ago? No?..then how has prohibition fulfilled it's objectives? And what significant gain does Dublin have over Amsterdam thanks to it's more prohibitive stance?

seanybiker

hash and grass yes.
I hang around with 2 heroine addicts and no that should never be legal. Once one of me mates shot up in front of me and I decked him. I dont care what anyone says heroine should never be legal.
Bangers should stay illegal. They are crap (yes i took em) and they are dangerous. Cocaine should stay illegal. Yes I done me little phase of that. What a load of crap. There a young one from new ross in hospital after overdosing on coke a few days ago. It not even on news yet. One of my mates was at the session she was at and had to give her mouth to mouth because of coke. She actually lost her pulse. It took a while to get her pulse back so dont even think about telling me coke is ok.

skyhighflyer

Pat Sheen wrote: »

I was drunk. Caffeine is a drug by all senses of the word and coffee and lucozade both contain it. I think it is probably a lot easier to get smoke in Amsterdam than Dublin, but is it harder to get smoke today, in Ireland, than it was say ten years ago? No?..then how has prohibition fulfilled it's objectives? And what significant gain does Dublin have over Amsterdam thanks to it's more prohibitive stance?

I think prohibition makes Dublin slightly less of a seedy ****hole than it otherwise would be, and for that reason alone I'm happy for it to continue. Like I said, I wouldn't mind the legalisation of certain drugs, but being Irish we'd be almost certain to fcuk it up for everyone.

Pat Sheen

A junky is a crimewave because heroin is both expensive and very very moreish!

seanybiker

Pat Sheen wrote: »

A junky is a crimewave because heroin is both expensive and very very moreish!

Are ya mad. Heroine is cheap boy. Extremely cheap. I never got it meself but as I said already I know 2 people on it. Very cheap mate

b28

Should all cold sore aids be free even though they're legal?
Well, they're legal because they pose no psychologically irrational behaviour threat, and they're not free because the drug companies make a profit.
We're not living in heaven unfortunately! :-D

By the way, drug companies are legal drug dealers.

seanybiker

b28 wrote: »

By the way, drug companies are legal drug dealers.

aint that the truth.

D.Q

seanybiker wrote: »

Are ya mad. Heroine is cheap boy. Extremely cheap. I never got it meself but as I said already I know 2 people on it. Very cheap mate

Heroin- Drug

Heroine- Heroic female character.

b28

Pat Sheen wrote: »

A junky is a crimewave because heroin is both expensive and very very moreish!

A junky is a person who has, in my opinion, a psychological disposition to a drug addiction of some form! They are in no different from a person who is a , a caffeine junkie, a nicotine addict, a binge drinker etc! etc.
Nobody has the right to say that a sex addict/porn addict is any better than a heroin addict. Its the regulation of the drug they're being supplied with and the suppliers qualifications!
So after hours or not, draw your conclusions like I have.
ha i'm feeling lucky 2nite!:D:D:D

b28

b28 wrote: »

Should all cold sore aids be free even though they're legal?
Well, they're legal because they pose no psychologically irrational behaviour threat, and they're not free because the drug companies make a profit.
We're not living in heaven unfortunately! :-D

By the way, drug companies are legal drug dealers.

Yes on a medical card....:D:D
I correct myself before anyone can!:D:D

seanybiker

DieselQueen wrote: »

Heroin- Drug

Heroine- Heroic female character.

Oh sorry I made a mistake. Bad me.

b28

CaptainSkidmark wrote: »

yeah and a year later we are all in rehab

Well check out the rehab numbers for people placed on xanax( a benzodiazepine used to treat anxiety by psychiatrists/doctors).

the numbers will frighten you!
All that legalising a current illegal substance would do is push up rehabilitation patient lists!
the real question is not why they got the drug in the first place or who gave it to them, but what in their brain caused this addiction!

Drug addiction is not to be blamed on the person, but investigated as to what caused it!

Biggins

Where's the simple "no" option?
Talk about one sided polls!

Even as a semi-indicator poll, its a failed poor attempt.