RU-486 Abortion Pill Manufactured by Same Company as Nazi Zyklon-B Gas

Run_to_da_hills

RU486. Non-surgical abortions using RU486 are performed in the first 63 days of the first trimester.1 Roussel Uclaf, the French pharmaceutical subsidiary of Hoechst AG is the manufacturer of RU 486.

During WWII, Nazi Germany used gas chambers to kill millions of Jews. The gas that was used was called Zyklon-B. Zyklon-B was made by IG Farben.

After the war, IG Farben changed its name to Hoechst AG. So the same company that brought you the gas chambers of the WWII holocaust now brings you the "abortion pill" !! :eek:

However, a Nazi by another name is still the same and, today, a subsidiary company of Hoechst AG is the developer and main producer of RU-486, the so-called “abortion pill.” The ghost of IG Farben is still haunting us by allowing killers to again distance themselves from their deeds. Using chemicals to kill has become big business for pharmaceutical companies both during the Nazi holocaust and during the abortion holocaust.


http://www.cephas-library.com/health/health_progesterone_abortions.html

Oh for **** sake, that is ridiculous.

Mercedes-Benz produced the engines for the planes of the Luftwaffe.
Mitsubishi built the Japanese Zeros that were used in kamikaze attacks.

Are these companies still fascist?

Fluffybums

And don't forget Krupps and Braun.

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Mercedes-Benz and Mitsubishi don't continue to murder millions of innocent people. :rolleyes:

Oh really? Millions?
This drug company is murdering millions of people today are they?

How about all the people killed in traffic accidents caused by BMWs or Mitsubishi cars?

Fluffybums

Neither do Hoescht and Roussel.
I'm guessing that you are anti-abortion hence your point of view.

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

Oh for **** sake, that is ridiculous.

Mercedes-Benz produced the engines for the planes of the Luftwaffe.
Mitsubishi built the Japanese Zeros that were used in kamikaze attacks.

Are these companies still fascist?

Mercedes-Benz and Mitsubishi were not chemical manufacturers that were synonymous with the murder of millions. :rolleyes:

King Mob wrote: »

Oh really? Millions?
This drug company is murdering millions of people today are they?

How about all the people killed in traffic accidents caused by BMWs or Mitsubishi cars?

Abortion is Murder you cannot compare a RTA's between two motor manufacturers and a producer of a chemical that is designed to terminate human life. :rolleyes:

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Mercedes-Benz and Mitsubishi were not chemical manufacturers that were synonymous with the murder of millions. :rolleyes:

Seems despite your rush to jump to conclusions I caught you before your ninja edit.

How many people where killed by German planes? Japanese ones? Do they not count?
Maybe because it not as emotive as the Holocaust and therefore not as effective as propaganda?

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Abortion is Murder you cannot compare a RTA's between two motor manufacturers and a producer of a chemical that is designed to terminate human life. :rolleyes:

Yes they do produce a drug to facilitate abortions.
You can compare this to the holocaust, but that would be shameless propaganda.

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

Yes they do produce a drug to facilitate abortions.
You can compare this to the holocaust.

Because BOTH are holocausts, just that one is more silenced more than the other.

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Because BOTH are holocausts, just that one is more silenced more than the other.

Wow this thread is just choco-block with propaganda .

How many abortions are there worldwide RTDH?
How many people died in the holocaust?

Are people being hauled off in their thousands against their will to be given this drug?

And dare I ask, where's the conspiracy?

EDIT: And why did you quote me but leave out the important part of the sentence?

meglome

Rtdh you are really scrapping the bottom of the barrel at this stage.

You'd think you'd be satisfied after convincing may of us to welcome the NWO but you're obviously not a man to rest on his laurels or past glories.

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

Wow this thread is just choco-block with propaganda .

How many abortions are there worldwide RTDH?
How many people died in the holocaust?

Are people being hauled off in their thousands against their will to be given this drug?

And dare I ask, where's the conspiracy?

The number of abortions carried out per year is approximately 42 Million around the globe.

Break this down and you get approximately 115,000 per day or just 52.5 days of continuous abortions would add up to the equivilant of the number of Jews murdered by the Nazis in the Holocaust.

meglome

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The number of abortions carried out per year is approximately 42 Million around the globe.

Break this down and you get approximately 115,000 per day or just 52.5 days of continuous abortions would add up to the equivilant of the number of Jews murdered by the Nazis in the Holocaust.

I for one would welcome these huge numbers of extra people into our underpopulated planet. Oh wait...

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The number of abortions carried out per year is approximately 42 Million around the globe.

Break this down and you get approximately 115,000 per day or just 52.5 days of continuous abortions would add up to the equivilant of the number of Jews murdered in the Holocaust.

And are you going to back this up with anything?
Or should we just take your word for this?

And are you going to answer the other questions or just ignore them as usual?

How many of these are unwilling?
Are they going to haul people away and give them this new drug against the persons will?
Why did you quote my post but edit out the most important bit?
And where's the conspiracy?

How about instead of posting out your usual nonsense ranting you actually address some points directed at you?

Fluffybums

Abortions were available before this drug was licenced. The need was there and the drug company filled it. RTDH if you want accuse anyone in percieved holocaust then accuse the women who choose to have an abortion.
As has already been pointed out, having an abortion is a choice comparing it to the holocaust where millions were killed merely because of race, sexuality, mental handicap, political opinions is obscene in my opinion. I do respect your right to have an opposing view.

Sorry about the spelling.

6th

Lads, where is the CT here?

bonkey

This thread seems like a thin veneer over a religious/political/humanitarian question - that being the morality of abortion.

The question of the morality of abortion is not a conspiracy theory, is it?

If only one question gets answered in this thread I'd like it to be: why did RTDH edit a quote I made while responding to it?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=59875847&postcount=9

Sofa_King Good

Some Further Info On I.G. Farben:

An important step on the road to world monopoly was the most far-reaching corporation invented by the Rothschilds. This was the international drug and chemical cartel, I. G. Farben. Called "a state within a state" , it was created in 1925 as Interessen Gemeinschaft Farbeinindustrie Aktien Gesellschaft, usually known simply as I. G. Farben, which simply meant "The Cartel". It had originated in 1904, when the six major chemical companies in Germany began negotiations to form the ultimate cartel, merging Badische Anilin, Bayer, Agfa, Hoechst, Weiler-ter-Meer, and Greisheim-Electron. The guiding spirit,as well as the financing, came from the Rothschilds, who were represented by their German banker, Max Warburg of M. M. Warburg Company, Hamburg. He later headed the German Secret Service during World War I and was personal financial advisor to the Kaiser.

All from here:http://www.mecfilms.com/universe/articles/rocky.htm

As an aside

[]When the Kaiser was overthrown, after losing the war, Max Warburg was not exiled with him to Holland; instead he became the financial advisor to the new government.
Monarchs may come and go, but the real power remains with the bankers. While representing Germany at the Paris Peace Conference, Max Warburg spent pleasant hours renewing family ties with his brother, Paul Warburg, who, after drafting the Federal Reserve Act at Jekyll Island, had headed the U.S. banking system during the war. He was in Paris as Woodrow Wilson's financial advisor. [

I. G. Farben soon had a net worth of six billion marks, controlling some five hundred firms. Its first president was Professor Carl Bosch. During the period of the Weimar Republic, I.G. Farben officials,seeing the handwriting, began a close association with one called Adolf Hitler, supplying much needed funds and political influence.
The success of the I.G. Farben cartel had aroused the interest of other industrialists. Henry Ford was favorably impressed and set up a German branch of Ford Motor Company. Forty percent of the stock was purchased by I.G. Farben. I.G. Farben then established an American subsidiary called American I.G., in cooperation with Standard Oil of New Jersey.
[ Its directors included Walter Teagle, President of Standard Oil, Paul Warburg of Kuhn,Loeb Company and Edsel Ford, representing the Ford interests. John Foster Dulles, for the law firm, Sullivan and Cromwell, became the attorney for I.G., frequently traveling between New York and Berlin on cartel business. His law partner, Arthur Dean, is now director of the $40 million Teagle Foundation which was set up before Teagle's death. Like other fortunes, it had become part of the network.

This is stange.

[Peter Hayes' definitive study of I.G. Farben shows that in 1933, it had 10 Jews on its governing boards. It has been previously pointed out that I.G., from its inception, was a Rothschild concern, formulated by the House of Rothschild and implemented through its agents, Max Warburg in Germany and Standard Oil in the United States.

This too.

Despite the incredible devastation of most German cities from World War II air bombings, the I.G. Farben building in Frankfurt, one of the largest buildings there, "miraculously" survived intact. A large Rockefeller mansion in Frankfurt also was left untouched by the war, despite the saturation bombing. Frankfurt was the birthplace of the Rothschild family.

the world's pre-eminent cartel, I.G. Farben and the drug companies which it controlled in the United States through the Rockefeller interests were responsible for many inexplicable developments in the production and distribution of drugs. From 1908 to 1936, I.G. held back its discovery of sulfanilimide, which would become a potent weapon in the medical arsenal.

This ties the CIA and Bush family to standard oil and IG/nazi's

http://universitypress.info/AmericaBetrayed1.html

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Despite the incredible devastation of most German cities from World War II air bombings, the I.G. Farben building in Frankfurt, one of the largest buildings there, "miraculously" survived intact. A large Rockefeller mansion in Frankfurt also was left untouched by the war, despite the saturation bombing. Frankfurt was the birthplace of the Rothschild family.

So what you're saying here is that because they where Rothschild connected the bomber pilots knew not to bomb their property?
Did they have a giant sign on the roofs? Did it glow in the dark?
Another ridiculous claim.

And again we're into Jew = in on the conspiracy stuff. Hooray.

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

And again we're into Jew = in on the conspiracy stuff. Hooray.

Bull. Hitler,Rockefeller(s), the Bush's are not Jews.

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Bull. Hitler,Rockefeller(s), the Bush's are not Jews.

Then would you explain the relevance of this quote?

Peter Hayes' definitive study of I.G. Farben shows that in 1933, it had 10 Jews on its governing boards. It has been previously pointed out that I.G., from its inception, was a Rothschild concern, formulated by the House of Rothschild

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

Then would you explain the relevance of this quote?

Are you honestly suggesting that I am saying that the Jews conspired to kill themselves in the concentration camps? gimme a break.

re the quote, don't you find it at all strange?

Edit: and for the record it is you who chose to highlight it out of all the information.

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

So what you're saying here is that because they where Rothschild connected the bomber pilots knew not to bomb their property?
Did they have a giant sign on the roofs? Did it glow in the dark?
Another ridiculous claim.

Why ridicilous?

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Are you honestly suggesting that I am saying that the Jews conspired to kill themselves in the concentration camps? gimme a break.

No I'm saying whoever wrote that concluded that because there was 10 Jew on the board the company was controlled by the Rothschilds.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

re the quote, don't you find it at all strange?

The fact that buildings can survive bombing? No.
That Jews where on a board of a large company in Germany? No.

Edit: And I chose it because it was the most ridiculous claim you made in your post.
The rest where the usual nonsense where you try to link people to the Rothschilds through the flimsiest of links.

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Why ridicilous?

Because there's no way the bombers would be able to differentiate or avoid those particular buildings during a carpet bombing.

So the much more likely explanation is they were no t in the same areas that where bombed and where not priority targets.
And chances are if you actually researched you'd find something that belonged to them that was damaged in the war.

Sofa_King Good

I'm open to correction on this but wasn't the City of London left unscathed folowing the blitz?

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

Oh for **** sake, that is ridiculous.

Mercedes-Benz produced the engines for the planes of the Luftwaffe.
Mitsubishi built the Japanese Zeros that were used in kamikaze attacks.

Are these companies still fascist?

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

And?
We've already established that this company supplied the German army during the war.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

I'm open to correction on this but wasn't the City of London left unscathed folowing the blitz?

And there was absolutely no buildings that survived. Not a one.

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

Because there's no way the bombers would be able to differentiate or avoid those particular buildings during a carpet bombing.

On its completion, the complex was the largest office building in Europe and remained so until the 1950s.[2] The IG Farben Building's six square wings retain a modern, spare elegance, despite its mammoth size.

Can we agree now that that just can't be the case?

King Mob wrote: »

So the much more likely explanation is they were no t in the same areas that where bombed

During World War II, the surrounding neighbourhood was devastated, but the building itself was left largely intact

King Mob wrote: »

and where not priority targets.

IG Farben subsequently became an indispensable part of the Nazi industrial base.[8] The building was the headquarters for research projects for the development of wartime synthetic oil and rubber, as well as the production administration of magnesium, lubricating oil, explosives, methanol, and Zyklon B, the lethal gas used in concentration camps

- Common sense would dictate that it should have been an Allied military target as it was a Nazi installation.
- The surrounding neighbourhood was devastated and
- it was unmissable from the air or anywhere else.

Can we agree that its escape was "miraclous" as previously described?

Source: http://eng.archinform.net/projekte/1377.htm#Second_World_War

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

On its completion, the complex was the largest office building in Europe and remained so until the 1950s.[2] The IG Farben Building's six square wings retain a modern, spare elegance, despite its mammoth size

.

Can we agree now that that just can't be the case?

No because during WW2 getting anywhere inside 5 miles was good. Pilots frequently missed larger factories.

(In 1941)Only 22 percent of bomber crews who claimed to have hit thier assigned target got as much as within five miles of it. In the more heavily defended and haze bound areas of the Ruhr (near where this place was), the figure fell to 7 percent.

Source: "Air Power" by Stephen Budiansky, 2004, page 282

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

During World War II, the surrounding neighbourhood was devastated, but the building itself was left largely intact

So there was some damage then?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

IG Farben subsequently became an indispensable part of the Nazi industrial base.[8] The building was the headquarters for research projects for the development of wartime synthetic oil and rubber, as well as the production administration of magnesium, lubricating oil, explosives, methanol, and Zyklon B, the lethal gas used in concentration camps

Hang on this was an administrative building? Those wheren't particularly high on the list of priorities.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

- Common sense would dictate that it should have been an Allied military target as it was a Nazi installation.

No it wasn't

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

- The surrounding neighbourhood was devastated

Yes and the building sustanted damage. Can you quantify the extent to which it was?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

- it was unmissable from the air or anywhere else.

No it wasn't

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Can we agree that its escape was "miraclous" as previously described?

No because it was simply not miraculous. But tell us, how do you explain it?

And oh look, for the article you linked:

General Eisenhower issued orders to preserve the building during the bombardment of Frankfurt, because he intended to use it after the war as his headquarters. However, it may have been that the building was saved by its proximity to Grüneburgpark with its prisoner of war camp holding captured American airmen.

bonkey

So...

lets have a proper look at this.

RTDH wrote:

After the war, IG Farben changed its name to Hoechst AG.

This is not entirely correct.

IG Farben was a syndicate / joint venture / conglomerate (or Cartel, as one of SKG's quoted items said) which was formed from a merger of what were effectively the 6 largest chemical dye manufacturing companies in Germany, which - as a nation - dominated the world market for chemical dye manufacture.

Its perhaps worth noting that this merger was formed from what were already two smaller conglomerates, just as it is also worth noting that such conglomeration was - at the time - nothing exceptional (in that comparable examples in other countries can readily be found).

Included in this conglomerate were Agfa, BASF, Bayer...all names we still know today.

So, when WW2 broke out, is it any wonder that the largest chemical group in Germany - which was effectively the only major chemical producer in Germany - produced most of the chemicals that the Germans used? Hardly.

After the war, IG Farben was liquidated...mostly for its role in war crimes. As well as most of its assets being seized, the conglomerate was also broken back into its former companies. The 4 largest of these - Agfa, Bayer, BASF and Hoerscht - bought many of the smaller ones.

So IG Farben wasn't renamed into Hoerscht at all. Hoerscht was one of the companies which merged into IG Farben, and was one of the companies recreated when IG Farben was split up.

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

No because during WW2 getting anywhere inside 5 miles was good. Pilots frequently missed larger factories.
Source: "Air Power" by Stephen Budiansky, 2004, page 282

You have to remember it was the biggest office building in europe with a distinct design. I thought you don't believe in coincidence?

See how it dwarfs the modern buildings of today surrounding it
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/IG-Farben-Gebaeude_Poelzig-Bau.jpg

King Mob wrote: »

So there was some damage then?

See Building 7 NY 9/11/01.

King Mob wrote: »

Hang on this was an administrative building? Those wheren't particularly high on the list of priorities.

Okay, but on the list of priorities nonetheless.


By "unmissable" I meant unmistakeable

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

And oh look, for the article you linked:

You can't have it both ways. Either they missed it because it was unimportant or they avoided bombing it for its importance.

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

You have to remember it was the biggest office building in europe with a distinct design. I thought you don't believe in coincidence?

You really have no idea how inaccurate bommbing was in WW2 do you?
The reason they did blanket bombing of areas was because the accuracy was so bad.
It's not a stretch to imagine the could miss.
It is however a stretch to imagine that they blanket bombed an aera but completely avoid the building.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

See how it dwarfs the modern buildings of today surrounding it
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/IG-Farben-Gebaeude_Poelzig-Bau.jpg

And? Imagine it at bombing height, in the middle of the night, with no lights on, traveling very fast over the area that you're completely unfamiliar with and with flak and search lights all around.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

See Building 7 NY 9/11/01.

What about it?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Okay, but on the list of priorities nonetheless.

And how do you know that?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

By "unmissable" I meant unmistakeable

But it is very much missable.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

You can't have it both ways. Either they missed it because it was unimportant or they avoided bombing it for its importance.

Or they didn't bomb it because it was not worth risking hitting the POW camp nearby, which would have happened if they bombed it because bombing in WW2 was incredibly inaccurate.

So why do you believe it survived the war exactly?

Sofa_King Good

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Sofa_King Good

bonkey wrote: »

IG Farben was a syndicate / joint venture / conglomerate (or Cartel, as one of SKG's quoted items said) which was formed from a merger of what were effectively the 6 largest chemical dye manufacturing companies in Germany, which - as a nation - dominated the world market for chemical dye manufacture.

bonkey wrote: »

However it gets a lot worse. IG chose the Auschwitz site, they even had their own concentration camp at Monowitz. Some of its directors were charged with war crimes that included "slavery" and "mass murder"

bonkey wrote: »

Included in this conglomerate were Agfa, BASF, Bayer...all names we still know today.

Hopefully people also know that Bayer introduced Heroin to the world.

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

bonkey wrote: »

However it gets a lot worse. IG chose the Auschwitz site, they even had their own concentration camp at Monowitz. Some of its directors were charged with war crimes that included "slavery" and "mass murder"

So these directors where charged with war crimes even though they where in with the Rothschilds?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Hopefully people also know that Bayer introduced Heroin to the world.

And?
Coca Cola once contained cocaine therefore Coca Cola today must be evil.

At the time Bayer introduced heroin, was it illegal?

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

You really have no idea how inaccurate bommbing was in WW2 do you?
The reason they did blanket bombing of areas was because the accuracy was so bad.
It's not a stretch to imagine the could miss.
It is however a stretch to imagine that they blanket bombed an aera but completely avoid the building.
And? Imagine it at bombing height, in the middle of the night, with no lights on, traveling very fast over the area that you're completely unfamiliar with and with flak and search lights all around.

You make it sound like its impossible.

King Mob wrote: »

What about it?

That was damaged by the buildings around it, even came down. I think you are refering to this anyway-
http://www.3ad.com/history/cold.war/feature.pages/ig.farben.3.htm

The buildings across the street are damaged only

King Mob wrote: »

And how do you know that?

It was the HQ of IG Farben and their role as enemies has already been established conclusively.

King Mob wrote: »

But it is very much missable.

http://www.earthspots.com/ExploreEarthSpot.php?NID=1245&MT=1

Still think so?

King Mob wrote: »

Or they didn't bomb it because it was not worth risking hitting the POW camp nearby, which would have happened if they bombed it because bombing in WW2 was incredibly inaccurate.

Perhaps but its unsubstantiated speculation

King Mob wrote: »

So why do you believe it survived the war exactly?

Okay you have Rothschild agents on both sides, the Warburg bros on "formerly" Rothschild land.

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

You make it sound like its impossible.

Impossible to hit? Not with a large area of bombing alot of planes and a bit of luck.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

That was damaged by the buildings around it, even came down. I think you are refering to this anyway-
http://www.3ad.com/history/cold.war/feature.pages/ig.farben.3.htm

The buildings across the street are damaged only

So what you're saying is that they got that close and missed the building intentionally?
Can you show where the bomb that caused that damage actually hit? Or when that photo was taken?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

It was the HQ of IG Farben and their role as enemies has already been established conclusively.

Or you know they could attack factories that would actually slow down production?
Or that it wasn't worth attacking because of the proximity to a POW camp?
Or that Einsenhower wanted the building intact to serve as a base?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

http://www.earthspots.com/ExploreEarthSpot.php?NID=1245&MT=1

Still think so?

Yes, very much so. I don't think they had google maps on the plane.
Oh and it was the middle of the night and all the street lights where off and the pilots where unfamiliar with the landscape and they where under fire.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Perhaps but its unsubstantiated speculation

Except the park continating the PWO camp was right next to the building. You can see it on the map you provided.
And you are one to talk about unsubstantiated speculation.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Okay you have Rothschild agents on both sides, the Warburg bros on "formerly" Rothschild land.

Oh look, here's some.

So how exactly do you know that this building was preserved on orders by the Rothschilds exactly? And how exactly is it a better explanation than any off the one I have provided?

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

So these directors where charged with war crimes even though they where in with the Rothschilds?

Useful Idiots I believe is the term. Look up their sentences, they were refered as sentences for "chicken thieves".

King Mob wrote: »

And?
Coca Cola once contained cocaine therefore Coca Cola today must be evil.

Ha. We agree on something;)

King Mob wrote: »

At the time Bayer introduced heroin, was it illegal?

1898, no. this wasn't intil 1912. are you defending the gift of heroin?

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Useful Idiots I believe is the term. Look up their sentences, they were refered as sentences for "chicken thieves".

And have you anything other than your own bias to show that their Rothschild connection was at play here?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Ha. We agree on something;)

No we don't.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

1898, no. this wasn't intil 1912. are you defending the gift of heroin?

No I'm just saying there is nothing technically wrong for producing a substance that is legal. And has absolutely no bearing on the company 100 years later.
In fact it's a total red herring.

Sofa_King Good

Hang on a second. You can't use both arguments. If it is as difficult as you say then the bombing to the houses across the street remove the argument by this logic of preserving it for a base and avoiding the POW camp.

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Hang on a second. You can't use both arguments. If it is as difficult as you say then the bombing to the houses across the street remove the argument by this logic of preserving it for a base and avoiding the POW camp.

And you can identify bomb damage from a photo?
How do you know it wasn't fire caused by a more distant bombing?
Or caused by something else later in the war?

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

No I'm just saying there is nothing technically wrong for producing a substance that is legal. And has absolutely no bearing on the company 100 years later.
In fact it's a total red herring.

By virtue of the fact that you had to put "technically" between "nothing" and "wrong" Im going to assume you think it is actually wrong, Correct me otherwise.

You see for me it is all part of the same eugenics program, sometimes subtle sometimes not. The concentration Camps/famines/wars/abortion/drugs/man made diseases/the reduction in food quality and so on and its being going on for a hundred years.

For example

T[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]he Rockefellers helped establish the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany which housed Professor Ernest Rudin, the chief architect of the Third Reich's infamous "Sterilization Law" and the system of Hereditary Health Courts which ordered eugenics sterilizations to be carried out.[/FONT]

http://ecosyn.us/Bush-Hitler/Rockefeller_Institute_for_Medical_Research_Eugenics.html

The Rockefeller family are covered in treasoneous dirt from this through Standard Oil and I.G.

May I ask you it always seems to be the same 20-50 people involved do you think?

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

By virtue of the fact that you had to put "technically" between "nothing" and "wrong" Im going to assume you think it is actually wrong, Correct me otherwise.

If they knew the harmful effects then yes it's wrong, otherwise no.
Have you any evidence to show the they knew of the harmful effects of heroin when it was developed?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

You see for me it is all part of the same eugenics program, sometimes subtle sometimes not. The concentration Camps/famines/wars/abortion/drugs/man made diseases/the reduction in food quality and so on and its being going on for a hundred years.

Then how come come the average life span has been increasing?
How do you know that all concentration Camps/famines/wars/abortion/drugs/man made diseases/the reduction in food quality are part of the same plot?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

May I ask you it always seems to be the same 20-50 people involved do you think?

It's not. You are making connections that aren't there.

You actually gonna answer my last question?
How do you know that the I.G. Faben building survived the war because of the Rothschilds?

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

And you can identify bomb damage from a photo?

http://www.frankfurthigh.com/history/images7/ffm49b.jpg

Well this is pretty clear and is how the rest of Frankfurt looked after years of bombing.

King Mob wrote: »

How do you know it wasn't fire caused by a more distant bombing?
Or caused by something else later in the war?

Doesn't matter what we do kniw is that the IG building remained intact.

Here is some more on IG Farben

What follows is but a fractional part of the 'middle' of a story that began before the turn of the century and which was provoked by a statement contained in an "Address in Reply to the Governor's Speech to Parliament", as recorded in Victorian Hansard of 12 August 1987, by Mr. Harley Rivers Dickinson, Liberal Party Member of the Victorian Parliament for South Barwon. Hence the title.

The relevant Hansard abstract is reproduced herewith. It is emphasized that the writer imputes Mr. Dickinson with no other responsibility for the contents of this thesis than being the parliamentary 'trigger' which motivated it and the researched data which it contains.

"At the end of the Second World War, the United States Government sent Charles Eliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farben chemical plants in Germany.

"While there he was told by German chemists of a scheme which had been worked out by them during the war and adopted by the German General Staff.

"This was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water. In this scheme, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place.

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. "Both the Germans and the Russians added sodium fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile."

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Well this is pretty clear and is how the rest of Frankfurt looked after years of bombing.

Not really. It could be fire damage. Note how in the buildings near the IG building were largely intact but with their roofs collapsed. But the building in these pictures have only a wall or two left.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Doesn't matter whaat we do kniw is that the IG building remained intact.

I'm going to hazard a guess and go with you believed that the building survived because of Rothschild orders because you couldn't provide another explaination.
I however have provided three other (more likely) explanation have I not?
So how do you know the IG Fabens connections saved the building?

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

What follows is but a fractional part of the 'middle' of a story that began before the turn of the century and which was provoked by a statement contained in an "Address in Reply to the Governor's Speech to Parliament", as recorded in Victorian Hansard of 12 August 1987, by Mr. Harley Rivers Dickinson, Liberal Party Member of the Victorian Parliament for South Barwon. Hence the title.

The relevant Hansard abstract is reproduced herewith. It is emphasized that the writer imputes Mr. Dickinson with no other responsibility for the contents of this thesis than being the parliamentary 'trigger' which motivated it and the researched data which it contains.

"At the end of the Second World War, the United States Government sent Charles Eliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farben chemical plants in Germany.

"While there he was told by German chemists of a scheme which had been worked out by them during the war and adopted by the German General Staff.

"This was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water. In this scheme, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place.

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. "Both the Germans and the Russians added sodium fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile."

Source? Or did you just make this up?

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

So how do you know the IG Fabens connections saved the building?

Maybe if you try to read between the lines


At the end of the war, U.S. Justice Department attorney James Stewart Martin (author of All Honorable Men, 1950) went to Germany to sort out the relationship of American and German businesses during the war, but he was thwarted in his efforts, saying

[/QUOTE]“We had not been stopped in Germany by German businesses. We had been stopped in Germany by American business. The forces that stopped us had operated from the United States but had not operated in the open. We were not stopped by a law of Congress, by an Executive Order of the President, or even by a change of policy approved by the president…. In short, whatever it was that stopped us was not ‘the government.’[/QUOTE]
http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis149.htm

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Maybe if you try to read between the lines


At the end of the war, U.S. Justice Department attorney James Stewart Martin (author of All Honorable Men, 1950) went to Germany to sort out the relationship of American and German businesses during the war, but he was thwarted in his efforts, saying

“We had not been stopped in Germany by German businesses. We had been stopped in Germany by American business. The forces that stopped us had operated from the United States but had not operated in the open. We were not stopped by a law of Congress, by an Executive Order of the President, or even by a change of policy approved by the president…. In short, whatever it was that stopped us was not ‘the government.’

http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis149.htm

Why is it so hard to get a straight answer?

How do you know IG faben supposed Rothchilds connection saved the building?
Have you any actual evidence?
Or was it just an accusation based solely on your inability to explain it's survival?