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Current irish natural lifting records?

  • 15-04-2009 7:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys just wondering if someone could possibly pop up a link or some information on the current irish lifting figures.

    Id be interested in seeing figures for the natural competitions, so fully tested and no suits

    cheers for any information guys.:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭tribulus


    http://www.idfpa.plus.com/

    Go to records.

    Remember to look at unequipped.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    jayoo wrote: »
    Hi guys just wondering if someone could possibly pop up a link or some information on the current irish lifting figures.

    Id be interested in seeing figures for the natural competitions, so fully tested and no suits

    cheers for any information guys.:)

    What age/weight records are you looking to break?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭jayoo


    Ha ah no to be honest i think all records are pretty much safe from me:pac:
    just curious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭jayoo


    Just checked the figures, :pac: like i though, all safe from my attempts.
    cutting now, first time and its a bitch, learning curve would be a positive spin on it.

    have dropped from bout 13 stone 10 to 12 stone 2pounds. and have only started deadlifting since three weeks ago.

    so all strength has fallen, For bench im stuck at 42kg dumbells for 6 reps, no spotter so dont bench press with barbell

    squat i usually start at 50 for 10 reps going up in jumps of 10kg, at 80kg i do 5 reps, 90kg 5 reps, 100kg 3 reps 110kg 1 rep, usually stop at 120kg.

    deadlift 160kg is most i pulled, but like i said before have only started doing this lately and in a cutting body atmosphere.

    interesting to see the figures though,

    thanks for the post:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Just cos you don't have a spotter doesn't mean you can't bench. I've needed a spot on probably 2 benches in the last 4 or 5 months like!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭jayoo


    i understand what you mean, but to be honest i think i think i rather dumb bells, and their always free as not many people go near the heavier ones.

    the dumbells go up to 50kg, which is a good weight, the most i have ever gotten is 46kg for sets of 5-6. So if i can get up to using the 50kg ones i will be very happy :pac:

    strangly enough, as i have lost weight on a cut, my shoulder push press has gone up:confused::D

    when ever im having a ****ty gym day, i use it as my motivation lift, feels good to have the 50kg dumbell in full control over my head.:)

    Anyhow, back to original point, cheers for the information and the link, all my questions were answered:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    ive got my eye on the <125kg deadlift record, within the next 18months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    ive got my eye on the <125kg deadlift record, within the next 18months

    Which one??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    Which one??
    i second that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    gas looking at some of the records - Alan Prior back in 1998 i was working with in crunch fitness in UCD, absolutle beast and really nice guy to boot.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Transform wrote: »
    gas looking at some of the records - Alan Prior back in 1998 i was working with in crunch fitness in UCD, absolutle beast and really nice guy to boot.

    Absolute monster of a guy., and like you said, incredibly nice too! Used to train in Hercs and still trains in TF Blanch. Probably one of the most genetically gifted AND hard working guys I’ve ever seen. I’ve heard stories of him squatting 180kg x20 and pulling 290kg x2. I wouldn’t doubt it for a single second.

    His brother Stephen’s a really good lifter too. Think he’s squatted and pulled 3x bodyweight or close to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    Is he (Alan) still a trainer? I remember him taking about doing a seminar years ago and how as a demo he would do a 180kg squat for 20reps.

    I also remember seeing his brother stephen getting ripped off on a win at the national bodybuilding title all those years ago.

    Great genitics mixed with super attitude - though i know when we worked together in UCD he had little time for management and just wanted to help people get strong and in shape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    ive got my eye on the <125kg deadlift record, within the next 18months

    if its the IDFPA sub 125kg...isnt it James Fennelys 322.5kg record...if it is...dude go for it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    if its the IDFPA sub 125kg...isnt it James Fennelys 322.5kg record...if it is...dude go for it!!

    Fennely did that at 110kg! :eek:

    The open record for 125kg is 292.5kg, the teenage and junior records are lower again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    Fennely did that at 110kg! :eek:

    The open record for 125kg is 292.5kg, the teenage and junior records are lower again.


    as far as i know yes he did...

    the 292.5kg is held by tom fatherty from ul ( my old coach) he will easily make bits of that this year...305 went up in worlds the same year...cept he forgot to hold onto the bar when putting it down so got no lift :cool:

    Ben Loughery and Sylvester Sally are also in the running to do damage to the 300kg raw deadlift pretty soon....i think sally has done 272.5kg and ben has done 280kg...there are some youtube videos going round of them doing rack pulls with 300kg plus... all in all the competition is very very high these days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    Which one??

    the open record, its around 290kg. and then ill go for the WR, its 310ish maybe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭kevpants


    Transform wrote: »
    Is he (Alan) still a trainer? I remember him taking about doing a seminar years ago and how as a demo he would do a 180kg squat for 20reps.

    I also remember seeing his brother stephen getting ripped off on a win at the national bodybuilding title all those years ago.

    Great genitics mixed with super attitude - though i know when we worked together in UCD he had little time for management and just wanted to help people get strong and in shape.

    He's a seriously nice bloke, he's actually over-nice! If you ask him for a spot or if you can take a plate he'll go out of his way to help you or carry the plate for you or something!

    He rarely goes heavy in TF but I saw him deadlifting two hundred and something for some of the slowest most deliberate reps I've ever seen, you actually couldn't hear the bar when it was touching the floor he was coming down that gently. Just so in control of the weight.

    Kumate you must get some vids or a training log started if you're trying to join the 300 club.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    kevpants wrote: »
    He's a seriously nice bloke, he's actually over-nice! If you ask him for a spot or if you can take a plate he'll go out of his way to help you or carry the plate for you or something!

    He rarely goes heavy in TF but I saw him deadlifting two hundred and something for some of the slowest most deliberate reps I've ever seen, you actually couldn't hear the bar when it was touching the floor he was coming down that gently. Just so in control of the weight.

    Kumate you must get some vids or a training log started if you're trying to join the 300 club.

    i might put up a training log in a month or2, as for videos im not a fan of using cameras in a gym, it should be ok tho. i was only trainin for the craic but i noticed how quickly my lifts were going up and im not on a high protein diet, im still gaining and ive stopped using creatine. the fact that i dont have a job means i have as much time for recovery as i need. im deadlifting prob every 4-6days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    what are you other lifts like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    what are you other lifts like?
    i havent tested them in a while, squat has gone down because lately ive been feelin tired and squats take alot out of me(on alot of meds at the mo)

    testing my bench 2moro, ive only gotten serious about liftin a few weeks ago, been keeping a proper journal.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    I really hope your lifts are legit. It'd be nice to have some more big lifters on the board.

    Where are you training? Age? Weight? etc etc....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭crotalus667


    kevpants wrote: »
    Kumate you must get some vids or a training log started if you're trying to join the 300 club.


    Can any one recommend a camera for doing this ???some thing basic and cheap??

    For I too wish to join the 300 club:cool:
    (only while I am waiting to get to the 400 club :p )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    Hanley wrote: »
    I really hope your lifts are legit. It'd be nice to have some more big lifters on the board.

    Where are you training? Age? Weight? etc etc....

    im going for 240kg in the next couple of weeks, i started at 160kg 8 weeks ago. ive been training with a double overhand grip and no belt. 5by5 mostly but last week or 2 ive bein doin singles.

    i just turned 26, i lift in rawcondition and im at 128kg bw. it was either there or hercules but im moving close to portobello so that seemed the best option.

    all i do is deadlift,squat,bench,overhead press rippetoe style, with some inverted rows thrown in when i feel like it. ive started doing one armed clean and press with a barbell. 3 days a week, 2 diff workouts

    i started squatting back in jan. ive fixed my bench, i had a habit of following the bar with my eyes and i never squeezed my shoulder blades together or planted my feet on the ground. also im making sure to hold my breath as i lift.

    i dont use any protein powder, just eggs,milk,cottage cheese and beef, sometimes tuna. my intake is around 120-180g protein a day, i dont count calories. never did any juice in the past, not even legal prohormone stuff. i did waste money on alot of useless **** when i was alot younger and doin bodybuilding type training but i learned an expensive lesson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭jayoo


    I think we should all pick a record and "go for it":pac: just for the craic
    Hmmmm which one shall i beat....decisions decisions;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    jayoo wrote: »
    I think we should all pick a record and "go for it":pac: just for the craic
    Hmmmm which one shall i beat....decisions decisions;)

    sure why not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭jayoo


    Does junior mean under 23, or does it include 23 year olds??

    And how is weight determined? we all know that boxers and mma fighters can often shead a lot of water befor being weighed in and can be maybe up to 10 pounds heavier when in the ring than when they weighed in :confused:

    just curious, my goal at the moment is to shead a bit more fat, maintain muscle. get down to about 11stone 10pounds.and then clean bulk for ever:pac::D

    aims are, to get back to and beat all my lifts before i started cutting.
    So i want 140kg squat, i want 110kg bench press, deadlift is new so work at that.

    and then work up from there.

    i would love to keep working at single arm shoulder push presses would be sweet to get a bodyweight rep:pac: but dumbells stop at 50kg

    So goals for this year are
    Bench: 5 rep max 115kg
    Squat: 5 rep max 150kg
    deadlift: five rep max: 200kg

    :D:pac::) Shur we will see what happens:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭jayoo


    :p:)Think its time for some fish mixed with soya sauce and a cup of green tea:pac: dont you just love night work:(:mad::o:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    jayoo wrote: »
    :p:)Think its time for some fish mixed with soya sauce and a cup of green tea:pac: dont you just love night work:(:mad::o:D
    is that slang for asian callgirl visit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭jayoo


    Ahhhh, it is now :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    is that slang for asian callgirl visit?
    LMAO!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    jayoo wrote: »
    Does junior mean under 23, or does it include 23 year olds??

    Junior means from 20 years up to and including 23 years of age.
    And how is weight determined? we all know that boxers and mma fighters can often shead a lot of water befor being weighed in and can be maybe up to 10 pounds heavier when in the ring than when they weighed in :confused:

    Depends on the federation. Some have 24 hour weigh ins in which case you could afford to to drop the last bit of weight and still have a chance to rehydrate etc before the comp.

    The IDFPA have weigh ins on the morning of the competition so it's really not a good idea to try and cut that much weight. You won't have a chance to put it back on before the comp and will be amazed by the drop off in strength. I've seen a couple of people try and do this and the result is never good.
    just curious, my goal at the moment is to shead a bit more fat, maintain muscle. get down to about 11stone 10pounds.and then clean bulk for ever:pac::D

    aims are, to get back to and beat all my lifts before i started cutting.
    So i want 140kg squat, i want 110kg bench press, deadlift is new so work at that.

    and then work up from there.

    i would love to keep working at single arm shoulder push presses would be sweet to get a bodyweight rep:pac: but dumbells stop at 50kg

    So goals for this year are
    Bench: 5 rep max 115kg
    Squat: 5 rep max 150kg
    deadlift: five rep max: 200kg

    :D:pac::) Shur we will see what happens:rolleyes:

    Good luck with your goals!! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭weightlifter


    Looking at the Irish records... is it a mistake that a masters lifter (60-64 yr old) also holds the senior unequipped squat record.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭d-gal


    Mite get one of my clients to enter in a year or so, only 19 and deadlifted 220 with just straps, 90kg category


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    d-gal wrote: »
    Mite get one of my clients to enter in a year or so, only 19 and deadlifted 220 with just straps, 90kg category

    If you entered something like the Nationals with the IDFPA you have to lift in all three lifts, but if you're interested in just doing one lift, like the deadlift, you can enter the single lifts. However there's a different set of records for them, the junior record at 90kg atm is 272.5kg compared to 222.5kg in the same category, pulled at a full comp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    Looking at the Irish records... is it a mistake that a masters lifter (60-64 yr old) also holds the senior unequipped squat record.

    Every lifter is automatically entered in the open category as well as whatever age category they fall into (teenage/junior /masters). So if you break a record in your age category and it beats the record in the open category for your weight class you get both records.

    I just had a quick look there for some more examples, the 56kg open bench press record is held by the same person who holds the 56kg masters (40-44) record.

    I hope that makes sense...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭bigstar


    jayoo wrote: »
    I think we should all pick a record and "go for it":pac: just for the craic
    Hmmmm which one shall i beat....decisions decisions;)

    Ive been doing this in my head for the last few weeks.
    75kg weight class: Squat 215kg, Bench 140kg, Deadlift 242.5kg.
    Man I have a long way to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Just wondering. I was just wondering how come there are so many World Record Holders in Ireland wih the IDFPA? Is it a mainly Irish organisation? How many competitors worldwide does it have? I was just reading Podge's entry about the competition yesterday and it got me wondering.

    The reason I ask is because it sort of reminds me of the kickboxing organisations I used to be around (and still am to some extent). For those not in the know, pretty much everybody you meet in Ireland in kickboxing is a world champ, or trains with a world champ. And when you ask who they fought to lift the world title you discover he was from Cork or Galway. They're basically kings of their own back yard, fighting among each other, rarely internationally for "world titles" that mysteriously never materialise outside of Ireland.

    Is it the same in powerlifting? If it's not, it's an amazing achievement for so many Irish lifters to have broken WRs. In fact if I'm not mistaken that means that this must be the most world recordly forum in the world. Hanley and G'em hold world records right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    Roper wrote: »
    Just wondering. I was just wondering how come there are so many World Record Holders in Ireland wih the IDFPA? Is it a mainly Irish organisation? How many competitors worldwide does it have? I was just reading Podge's entry about the competition yesterday and it got me wondering.

    The reason I ask is because it sort of reminds me of the kickboxing organisations I used to be around (and still am to some extent). For those not in the know, pretty much everybody you meet in Ireland in kickboxing is a world champ, or trains with a world champ. And when you ask who they fought to lift the world title you discover he was from Cork or Galway. They're basically kings of their own back yard, fighting among each other, rarely internationally for "world titles" that mysteriously never materialise outside of Ireland.

    Is it the same in powerlifting? If it's not, it's an amazing achievement for so many Irish lifters to have broken WRs. In fact if I'm not mistaken that means that this must be the most world recordly forum in the world. Hanley and G'em hold world records right?

    Well, it is an international federation, i think ireland would have one of the bigger membership bases, but afaik there is a pretty decent membership in the uk, and countries like germany, france, belgium and northern usa.

    there are a lot of feds, and a lot of different age/weight divisions, so there are more records.

    the IDFPA/WDFPF would also be one of the newer and smaller feds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    Roper wrote: »
    Just wondering. I was just wondering how come there are so many World Record Holders in Ireland wih the IDFPA? Is it a mainly Irish organisation? How many competitors worldwide does it have? I was just reading Podge's entry about the competition yesterday and it got me wondering.

    The reason I ask is because it sort of reminds me of the kickboxing organisations I used to be around (and still am to some extent). For those not in the know, pretty much everybody you meet in Ireland in kickboxing is a world champ, or trains with a world champ. And when you ask who they fought to lift the world title you discover he was from Cork or Galway. They're basically kings of their own back yard, fighting among each other, rarely internationally for "world titles" that mysteriously never materialise outside of Ireland.

    Is it the same in powerlifting? If it's not, it's an amazing achievement for so many Irish lifters to have broken WRs. In fact if I'm not mistaken that means that this must be the most world recordly forum in the world. Hanley and G'em hold world records right?

    Lol, what makes you think there's so many world record holders on the Board?? I think you might be confused with national records holder, in which case I still don't think there's that many here relative to the number lifters as a whole.

    Just fyi tho, you should have a look at the World Records. There's not as many Irish World Record holders as you seem to think.

    The IDFPA is the IRISH drug free powerlifting association, so yeah, I would say it's mainly an Irish fed ;). It's affiliated to teh WDFPF tho, which is obviously international. Not too sure on how many competitors it has, there hasn't been to my knowledge, an official announcement on the number of members. Having said that tho, at the last international event I was at there was roughly 150 lifters and that's a very conservative guess. There was only a handful of Irish lifting that day too. Also you have to bear in mind that not everyone who competes was lifting that day. The federation as a whole is pretty huge and people can break world records an national competitions.

    It's a young federation, so records are borken quite frequently, but as they're broken the standard is being increased. Every lifter is entered into their open and individual age and weight class so if you want to look at the real competition, look there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭slemons


    I've always wondered about all the world champs in the various different sports. Does anyone else think its strange? Especially in weights and fighting sports.

    Does it not dilute the sport itself by having so many federations?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    slemons wrote: »
    I've always wondered about all the world champs in the various different sports. Does anyone else think its strange? Especially in weights and fighting sports.

    Does it not dilute the sport itself by having so many federations?

    In the World?? Yeah I think it does.

    In Ireland, there's really only two active federations so I don't think that it really matters.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    In the World?? Yeah I think it does.

    In Ireland, there's really only two active federations so I don't think that it really matters.

    And a lot of the lifters compete in both feds anyway....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    argh, i wanna do a competition now after all this talk! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭weightlifter


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    Every lifter is automatically entered in the open category as well as whatever age category they fall into (teenage/junior /masters). So if you break a record in your age category and it beats the record in the open category for your weight class you get both records.

    I just had a quick look there for some more examples, the 56kg open bench press record is held by the same person who holds the 56kg masters (40-44) record.

    I hope that makes sense...

    Yeah that makes sense. It just seems odd that a 60 year old would hold the open record.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Yeah that makes sense. It just seems odd that a 60 year old would hold the open record.

    I assume since your screen name is "weightlifter" you know who Laurence is??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭jayoo


    just out of interest
    how would a person go about entering and competing in a weight lifting meet?

    i have a friend whos 19 and weighs 11stone 5 pounds and i feel he could easily beat the the single lift squat for that weight, which is 132 kg(unless i have read the figures incorrectly)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    jayoo wrote: »
    just out of interest
    how would a person go about entering and competing in a weight lifting meet?

    i have a friend whos 19 and weighs 11stone 5 pounds and i feel he could easily beat the the single lift squat for that weight, which is 132 kg(unless i have read the figures incorrectly)


    Join the IDFPA by submitting a membership form, enter a single lift competition and go for it.

    I don't want to sound harsh, but it's a bad reason to compete, and is one of the reasons why some powerlifting federations get the reputation of being sub-standard/full of wannabes. To say you hold a national record at that weight is disingenuous. I'm not saying that's what your friend's doing it for, but you see a lot of people break a record that might have only had one or two lifters ever do it in that weight class/division (remember, the IDFPA's only 10 years old!) and act like it makes them elite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    jayoo wrote: »
    just out of interest
    how would a person go about entering and competing in a weight lifting meet?

    i have a friend whos 19 and weighs 11stone 5 pounds and i feel he could easily beat the the single lift squat for that weight, which is 132 kg(unless i have read the figures incorrectly)

    You have to be a member of the IDFPA - you can download a membership form from the site. You then fill out a registration form for the comp or just arrive on the day and register. The single lifts for this year are already over tho so he'd have to wait till next year and he might be a junior by the time the comp comes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Whats the deal with the drug testing? Do they just test you during the event?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    Whats the deal with the drug testing? Do they just test you during the event?

    10% of lifters get tested at each event!!


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