Abercrombie and Fitch in Blackrock Shopping Center

D.MAN

Active Sports in the Blackrock Shopping Center have Abercrombie and Fitch for sale. Really good Prices. Tee Shirts, Shirts and Polos

Keith C

D.MAN wrote: »

Active Sports in the Blackrock Shopping Center have Abercrombie and Fitch for sale. Really good Prices. Tee Shirts, Shirts and Polos

ha ha shill!!

GiftofGab

More than likely fake. I've seen a few shops in town do the same thing Abercrombie dont let other retailers sell their clothes.

D.MAN

Totally not fake. But it is from last year. that is why it is cheaper. Some of it is Christmas 08 range

Peyton Manning

Abercrombie dont let other retailers sell their product. What of that do you not understand?

Gran Hermano

Authenticity Statement

The only way to appreciate Abercrombie & Fitch is to live it through our high quality, collegiate-inspired, casual luxury clothing. And the only way to get into our newest clothing is by heading to one of our U.S., Canadian or UK stores, shopping our company websites, or ordering through our A&F catalog.

Our unique lifestyle is felt through the energy of the in-store experience. With great tunes thumping in the background and our Brand Reps there to help you find exactly what you need, our stores bring to life the Abercrombie & Fitch lifestyle.

For over 100 years we’ve dedicated ourselves to designing and producing the highest quality All-American clothing. However, as we continue to produce the hottest fashions, counterfeiters are making cheap knockoffs that are often mistaken for the real deal. So make sure you get all your A&F gear from one of our stores, company websites, or catalogs.

If you think you have counterfeit Abercrombie, or if you see our gear somewhere other than one of our stores, let us know. You can call us toll free from the United States at 866.901.FAKE (3253). From outside the US, you can call us direct at 614.283.8100. From anywhere, you can email us, too. Just drop us a note at BP_Tips@abercrombie.com. We appreciate your help.

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Dickerty

Mr.S wrote: »

Doesn't mean their fake though, the shop could have just bought them in privately and then are just selling them on.

They could, except that is HORRIBLY illegal, and they could lose the fake A&F shirt off their back!

witnessmenow

There is a shop in Athlone that used to sell A&F clothes, they were a high end clothes shop (Tommy Hillfiger etc) so i really doubt they were selling knock offs.

Also dont BT in Dublin sell A&F?

Alyosha

D.MAN wrote: »

Totally not fake. But it is from last year. that is why it is cheaper. Some of it is Christmas 08 range

Last year's clothing not exactly their "newest" referred to on their website, so it could be authentic. Still shtie tho. :pac:

bk

I don't get why people get so excited about A&F gear, they are only OK, really just a US version of River Island or Jack and Jones (from a guys point of view).

I've shopped in A&F a few times when in the US, but really nothing I couldn't have gotten as nice or nicer in River Island, etc.

autograph

All this obsession with A & F is just a lot of hysteria if you ask me.

RATM

autograph wrote: »

All this obsession with A & F is just a lot of hysteria if you ask me.

Agreed. D4 and D4 wannabe hysteria if we are going to quantify it correctly. I go to Trinity College and its almost like a uniform in there. Pretty sad to see all the D4 heads going around in the same gear, especially as students used to be quite avant garde when it came to clothes.

ceegee

Dickerty wrote: »

They could, except that is HORRIBLY illegal, and they could lose the fake A&F shirt off their back!

Is it illegal? Is there any specific law in this country to stop me buying a product online and reselling it, provided the correct duty/vat etc is paid (not trying to stir it or anything, its a genuine question)

If not, then some of the comments in this thread come quite close to the whole area of libel

bk

ceegee wrote: »

Is it illegal? Is there any specific law in this country to stop me buying a product online and reselling it, provided the correct duty/vat etc is paid (not trying to stir it or anything, its a genuine question)

If not, then some of the comments in this thread come quite close to the whole area of libel

I Am Not A Lawyer and I don't know the specifics in Ireland, but the practise is called grey importing and it is illegal in some countries and it is a fairly grey area in most countries.

I remember cd wow were successfully sued by the record companies and stopped from buying CD's in Hong Kong and importing them cheaper into Ireland.

Agreed. D4 and D4 wannabe hysteria if we are going to quantify it correctly. I go to Trinity College and its almost like a uniform in there. Pretty sad to see all the D4 heads going around in the same gear, especially as students used to be quite avant garde when it came to clothes.

Yes, it is like Ralph Lauren and Tommy Hilfiger for the older crowd. Just because these are sold for outrageous prices in Brown Thomas, people think they are something special, but in the US people would laugh at you as they are considered relatively affordable and middle of the road clothing.

The funniest thing is any time I'm in the US I'm always being complemented on my clothes typically bought in the likes of River Island, Jack and Jones, etc. and people want to know where to get it. They find it more interesting then the boring range of jeans, T-shirt, etc. usually sold in the US stores.

unreggd

The last 2 years of A&F looks shoy anyways, that horrible ironed-on lettering

Catari Jaguar

It's not ironed on, it's embroidered. That's why it's so expensive.

OP, if the hoods aren't corduroy lined with velvet trim then they aren't real.

unreggd

Lil Kitten wrote: »

It's not ironed on, it's embroidered. That's why it's so expensive.

OP, if the hoods aren't corduroy lined with velvet trim then they aren't real.

Its looks ironed on

That so called "embroidered" shoy is on all the clothes ye get in Motion Picture etc, it looks CHEAP

At £50 a tshirt and £70 a jumper they'd wanna be puttin in more effort

but they dont, cos its obvious people just wear them for the label

Pathetic really

FrankGrimes

The material of the long sleeve shirts sold in both A&F and Hollister is far, far superior to anything sold in the likes of River Island. I used wear River Island gear when I was around 20-21 but after that found the style too boy bandish and the quality of the materials really poor (low cotton % and thread count). Was actually in there last week and really thought the clothes were poor quality.

Through all my business travels I'm always on the lookout for semi-casual shirts and in all the various cities around the world I've been in I've never found anything that comes close in terms of quality and value (most Hollister shirts are $39 and even at $70 A&F shirts are far cheaper than many alternatives). On top of that I also love the style and cut of the shirts (tidy enough for business casual wear without feeling too formal, also go great with a pair of jeans in the evening).

I don't buy much else there unless it's majorly discounted in a sale as I find that I can get similar jeans, combats etc. elsewhere with comparable quality and style for cheaper, but I do love their shirts.

So yeh, you may disagree with peoples' opinions, but the level of spite and generalisation shown on this thread is the only thing I'd be calling pathetic.

Catari Jaguar

unreggd wrote: »

Its looks ironed on

That so called "embroidered" shoy is on all the clothes ye get in Motion Picture etc, it looks CHEAP

At £50 a tshirt and £70 a jumper they'd wanna be puttin in more effort

but they dont, cos its obvious people just wear them for the label

Pathetic really

I got 2 hoodies in NJ, that are amazingly comfortable and snug, all fleece lined. They were $45 each. Which is a bargain. I'm not a D4 wannabe or anything, I just think the hoodies are excellent quality and nice colours/style.

It's expensive over here because, let's face it... everything is.

bk

FrankGrimes wrote: »

So yeh, you may disagree with peoples' opinions, but the level of spite and generalisation shown on this thread is the only thing I'd be calling pathetic.

Let me put you straight, if you are buying these in the US, at US prices, then fair enough, I've bought in both myself and the price in the US is fair for them.

What I do have a problem with is folks who pay outrageous prices for these here in Ireland or who wear them just for the brand to show off.

BTW There really isn't much difference between A&F and many of the UK fashion shops IME.

dumbyearbook

FrankGrimes wrote: »

The material of the long sleeve shirts sold in both A&F and Hollister is far, far superior to anything sold in the likes of River Island. I used wear River Island gear when I was around 20-21 but after that found the style too boy bandish and the quality of the materials really poor (low cotton % and thread count). Was actually in there last week and really thought the clothes were poor quality.

Through all my business travels I'm always on the lookout for semi-casual shirts and in all the various cities around the world I've been in I've never found anything that comes close in terms of quality and value (most Hollister shirts are $39 and even at $70 A&F shirts are far cheaper than many alternatives). On top of that I also love the style and cut of the shirts (tidy enough for business casual wear without feeling too formal, also go great with a pair of jeans in the evening).

I don't buy much else there unless it's majorly discounted in a sale as I find that I can get similar jeans, combats etc. elsewhere with comparable quality and style for cheaper, but I do love their shirts.

So yeh, you may disagree with peoples' opinions, but the level of spite and generalisation shown on this thread is the only thing I'd be calling pathetic.

agree 100% with the above its just good clothing! and ok you can't buy it easily here which did make it more desireable if you like the gear but its so common in Ireland now that its not anyways 'exclusive' anymore.

People that go on about the D4 wannabe thing are taking life too seriously - cop on its just a shirt/hoodie ffs! You cant get them in BTs either and id rather have one shirt from hollister or AF than 10 from River island the mens stuff is junk there.

dodzy

dumbyearbook wrote: »

....id rather have one shirt from hollister or AF than 10 from River island the mens stuff is junk there.

+1.

RI is pure shyte.

Barname

Dickerty wrote: »

They could, except that is HORRIBLY illegal, and they could lose the fake A&F shirt off their back!

IF the goods are legitimate THEN there is NO LEGAL basis to stop the reselling of same goods by third parties.

Dickerty you should be careful what you say

x in the city

A&F are just for chavs shur

dumbyearbook

Barname wrote: »

IF the goods are legitimate THEN there is NO LEGAL basis to stop the reselling of same goods by third parties.

Dickerty you should be careful what you say

There is no right or wrong here as posted above importing for sale like this is a grey area.

It is in a way the tort of 'passing off' ie using the brand of another to your own advantage, except here its more blatant as the goods are actually 'legitimate', you can get a court order to stop copying (Karen Mills v Dunnes Stores recently) so a case to stop the sale would be easily enough achieved in my own limited legal opinion.

As an owner of Copyright or Intellectual Property ie A&F here you can say how its sold and where and when. Its also protected by EU competition law.

unreggd

FrankGrimes wrote: »

The material of the long sleeve shirts sold in both A&F and Hollister is far, far superior to anything sold in the likes of River Island. I used wear River Island gear when I was around 20-21 but after that found the style too boy bandish and the quality of the materials really poor (low cotton % and thread count). Was actually in there last week and really thought the clothes were poor quality.

Through all my business travels I'm always on the lookout for semi-casual shirts and in all the various cities around the world I've been in I've never found anything that comes close in terms of quality and value (most Hollister shirts are $39 and even at $70 A&F shirts are far cheaper than many alternatives). On top of that I also love the style and cut of the shirts (tidy enough for business casual wear without feeling too formal, also go great with a pair of jeans in the evening).

I don't buy much else there unless it's majorly discounted in a sale as I find that I can get similar jeans, combats etc. elsewhere with comparable quality and style for cheaper, but I do love their shirts.

So yeh, you may disagree with peoples' opinions, but the level of spite and generalisation shown on this thread is the only thing I'd be calling pathetic.

I'd never compare A&F and Hollister! Hollister have much nicer clothes, a better range, and at reasonable prices

Ive been to the AnF shop in London any time im over there, tried the stuff on, and IMO its not great, so I cant justify the prices

And I cant understand that other people would find them superior, hence why I see most people buying them for the label

If you genuinely like them, work away, but IMO you're in the minority

Barname

dumbyearbook wrote: »

There is no right or wrong here as posted above importing for sale like this is a grey area.

It is in a way the tort of 'passing off' ie using the brand of another to your own advantage, except here its more blatant as the goods are actually 'legitimate', you can get a court order to stop copying (Karen Mills v Dunnes Stores recently) so a case to stop the sale would be easily enough achieved in my own limited legal opinion.

As an owner of Copyright or Intellectual Property ie A&F here you can say how its sold and where and when. Its also protected by EU competition law.

NO you are wrong.

I was NOT talking about copying. I stated if the goods are legitimate.

If say, the goods are legitimate no one can stop a third party reselling the same goods.

That would fall foul of competition laws.

Chardee MacDennis

RATM wrote: »

Agreed. D4 and D4 wannabe hysteria if we are going to quantify it correctly. I go to Trinity College and its almost like a uniform in there. Pretty sad to see all the D4 heads going around in the same gear, especially as students used to be quite avant garde when it came to clothes.

feck that have you tried to buy clothes in Dublin recently? River Island seems to only want to sell clothes thats fit for either gay guys or knackers; jeans with what looks fecking tipex thrown against them or else those dreadful skinny jeans or the same striped hoodie in a million differnet colours and styles or their ben shermin shirt ripoffs. Jack and Jones still is semi respectable, especially solid for just plain normal jeans.

i like A&F because they dont change their style every 1/4, its always essentially the same stuff so i know i cant go wrong and it lasts, some of the A&F stuff i am own is 5 years old.

finally i love how you say students used to be avant garde when it comes to clothes, now everyone dresses the same. you show me one group that doesnt dress the same, freaking goths all think their individuals by looking exactly the same, all these metrosexuals* with their skinny jeans, skobes wth their tucked in tracksuit bottoms. happens in every group, people strat to dress the same so as to identify with their group.

sorry for the rant, i just hate this constant crap about A&F (include Hollister and AE in that) and D4 stuff...

*cant think of a better word

cotwold

Dickerty wrote: »

They could, except that is HORRIBLY illegal, and they could lose the fake A&F shirt off their back!

When has that ever stopped anyone. They'd stand to loose more if the products they were selling were fake. Im not an Ab/Fitch aficionado but do their clothes come with a "not for resale" logo?

Gran Hermano

Easiest solution to all this, email the Brand Protection team at A&F details
on the shop and let them sort it out.

cotwold

That'd be pretty scabby though, wouldn't it.

Africa

Still think ill do my clothes shopping in TK Max and Pennys

crushproof

BastardPrince wrote: »

feck that have you tried to buy clothes in Dublin recently? River Island seems to only want to sell clothes thats fit for either gay guys or knackers; jeans with what looks fecking tipex thrown against them or else those dreadful skinny jeans or the same striped hoodie in a million differnet colours and styles or their ben shermin shirt ripoffs. Jack and Jones still is semi respectable, especially solid for just plain normal jeans.

Thank god there's someone else thinking that....I though I was the only guy thinking that these days! Everywhere has exactly the same as outlined above. Don't start me on the tight jeans, pink t shirts and bloody striped jumpers!! Wtf like, since when have the mens and womens departments interlinked?!

dumbyearbook

Barname wrote: »

NO you are wrong.

I was NOT talking about copying. I stated if the goods are legitimate.

If say, the goods are legitimate no one can stop a third party reselling the same goods.

That would fall foul of competition laws.

Easy there now....!

I realise the goods are genuine and not copies - (thats in my earlier post)
Manufacturers need exclusive distribution so the law protects it. Thats the key really a company when challenged(A&F) will only have to justify why they distribute in a certain way - but these cases are fact sensitive so it depends how a court would interpret it. Im not claiming to be an expert on EU law but ill give it a shot.

I know its not copying per se but I assure you it still can be illegal.

The reason is that althoguh the EU provides for the free movement of goods this is not the freedom to sell whatever you like in a shop simply because you own it. The free movement of goods can be 'limited' by a producer (eg. A&F) if they can justify it ie they have the right to distribute as they wish as long as its not anti-competitive (which might be eg. abuse of a dominant position or collusion between competitors)

- someone who tries to do it for a manufacturer ie. become a distributor of their own accord is infringing on the legal right of the producer to decide on how the good is sold goods like A&F can justify their protective approach as they always decide where and who can sell the goods the brand 'requires' secure distribution to protect it.

If you imported 500 ipods from Germany and set up an ipod shop it would be the same thing. I suspect that one of the reasons A&F have a store in London is to give them a base in the EU which otherwise would allow a person to import direct from the USA and set up shop as it would be more difficult to enfore rights as a US company in the EU where they had no base.

Artilces 82/86 of the European Treaty cover this. The Tort of Passing off in Ireland is applicable when goods are copied or where a person sponges off the brand of a company without permisson, it could also apply here.

S.I.R

Mr.S wrote: »

Doesn't mean their fake though, the shop could have just bought them in privately and then are just selling them on.

the factory's are given permission to make 1000 of each shirt for example... but they make 2000, give 1000 to A&F then give 1000 to rouge traders at a cheap price... they make their profit as does the rouge trader, nobody gets hurt bar the tax man.


its simply and effective.

johnn

anyone know if this shop is still selling? Was looking to get some A&F stuff and didnt want to have to order online cause i dont wanna have to use credit card. i remember a shop in the powerscourt centre sold it but i went back recently and it was all gone! Assuming this had something to do with the infringements mentioned earlier?

kumate_champ07

bk wrote: »

Just because these are sold for outrageous prices in Brown Thomas, people think they are something special, but in the US people would laugh at you as they are considered relatively affordable and middle of the road clothing.

The funniest thing is any time I'm in the US I'm always being complemented on my clothes typically bought in the likes of River Island, Jack and Jones, etc. and people want to know where to get it. They find it more interesting then the boring range of jeans, T-shirt, etc. usually sold in the US stores.

there are 2 different lines of tommy hilfiger and raulph lauren in America
theres the ghetto line and theres the preppy line
but yes they are overpriced here anyway I think.
theres many brands in America that we dont have here and are more expensive than what I've seen in BT, 300dollars for a tshirt, that was just a small store in Miami, I was browsing and tried to leave quickly and quietly when I noticed the prices, my tshirt was very similar but cost me 15dollars in a different store and I preferred it!

kumate_champ07

FrankGrimes wrote: »

The material of the long sleeve shirts sold in both A&F and Hollister is far, far superior to anything sold in the likes of River Island. I used wear River Island gear when I was around 20-21 but after that found the style too boy bandish and the quality of the materials really poor (low cotton % and thread count). Was actually in there last week and really thought the clothes were poor quality.

Through all my business travels I'm always on the lookout for semi-casual shirts and in all the various cities around the world I've been in I've never found anything that comes close in terms of quality and value (most Hollister shirts are $39 and even at $70 A&F shirts are far cheaper than many alternatives). On top of that I also love the style and cut of the shirts (tidy enough for business casual wear without feeling too formal, also go great with a pair of jeans in the evening).

I don't buy much else there unless it's majorly discounted in a sale as I find that I can get similar jeans, combats etc. elsewhere with comparable quality and style for cheaper, but I do love their shirts.

So yeh, you may disagree with peoples' opinions, but the level of spite and generalisation shown on this thread is the only thing I'd be calling pathetic.

Im sure they are great quality clothes but most people wearing them here are doing so for the name printed on the front. I wouldnt wear it if I was given it for free

Its like when Ed Hardy was popular in LA, everyone wore it because of the name not the quality

RayCon

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