The County Between Donegal and Antrim

PurpleFistMixer

What do you call it? (And why, if you're feeling verbose.)

Until recently I was of the belief that to most people in the south it was called "Derry", and then to certain people in the north it was called "Londonderry", but I'm starting to come to the conclusion that this may not be entirely accurate. When I was in school we always, always called it Derry, and the word "Londonderry" only ever came up as a kind of relic in history, so I'm somewhat taken aback when people sincerely refer to it as such. It seems to me to be more of a politically charged term than just "Derry", but I've met a fair few people now who casually refer to it as Londonderry, and whom I would not consider particularly politically pushed.

Anyway, just interested in seeing what people have to say.

Fizman

Luxembourg.

PurpleFistMixer

Jaysus you got that in before I'd even added the poll.

xOxSinéadxOx

nobody actually calls it londonderry do they? never heard anyone say that

eVeNtInE

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Jigsaw

I think the official name is Londonderry but peopele name it as they please. If t is any consolation the district council is called Derry City Council. Doesn't matter really tbh.

Piste

Derry, I always assume someone calling it Londonderry is either English or NI unionist.

kraggy

Unionists call it Londonderry, Nationalists call it Derry.

It's Derry. End of.

mardybumbum

Derry, because two syllables are less effort.

Shacklebolt

xOxSinéadxOx wrote: »

nobody actually calls it londonderry do they? never heard anyone say that

Apparently even northern Unionists usually say Derry in conversation, and only call it Londonderry when they're being formal about it. So I've read in some articles by Unionist writers anyways.

To me its Derry anyway. The city council call themselves Derry City Council these days and are trying to change the legal name of the city.

PurpleFistMixer

Piste wrote: »

Derry, I always assume someone calling it Londonderry is either English or NI unionist.

That's what I thought too, but if that's the case, I may be accidentally associating myself with some of the above. Some... or all!

de5p0i1er

Atari Jaguar.

Crann na Beatha

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Queen-Mise

The Peoples Republic of Derry

destroyer

a kip

TestTransmission

who gives a crap

Turd Ferguson

I've never had to refer to that place in my life so I've never actually called it anything.

Agent Smith

The official name is Londonderry. However i read before is policy to reply to letters marked as derry with derry, and Londonderry with Londonderry



And yes, its a kip

stovelid

Hurdy-hur-y

JayeL

Londaindoire

Hagar

Slightly OT.

Exactly how long does an appreticeship take? Some of those Apprentice Boys are nearly on a pension, are they a bit slow learning their trade or something?

galwayrush

How about Dana's Kingdom.

The news readers on BBC and UTV are a bit confused as well
One minute its Derry then next its Londonderry

All the road signs in the North refer to derry as well...cause people paint over the 'London'

javaboy

Hagar wrote: »

Slightly OT.

Exactly how long does an appreticeship take? Some of those Apprentice Boys are nearly on a pension, are they a bit slow learning their trade or something?

I'm out of thanks.

salonfire wrote: »

The news readers on BBC and UTV are a bit confused as well
One minute its Derry then next its Londonderry

That's policy so as not to offend people. Or to offend everybody equally.

bobbly

Agent Smith wrote: »

The official name is Londonderry. However i read before is policy to reply to letters marked as derry with derry, and Londonderry with Londonderry



And yes, its a kip

its officially Derry now by the looks of it

ejmaztec

"Not Delhi" - so that all of the Chinese heading for Delhi don't keep getting on the wrong plane.

Dudess

Derry. The "London" being tacked on is clearly something that has its origins in colonialism - surely anyone can see that. It's a good symbol of one culture imposing itself on another actually.

I can't understand why people down here who aren't unionists would refer to it as "Londonderry" - other than to go to great lengths to demonstrate how anti republican they are. Yet being anti provo does not require this. Many nationalists and republicans are actually anti provo too.

sidneykidney

I call it Londonderry.....but i pronounce the first six letters silently

luckylucky

bobbly wrote: »

its officially Derry now by the looks of it

Afaik the official name of the city is Derry - changed it a while back, and the official name of the county is Londonderry - haven't heard that it changed.

Just a thought - might it not be for the best for the city and county just to be renamed to something which the majority of both communities can live with. Wouldn't be the first time that a city got renamed after all.

destroyer

Dudess wrote: »

Derry. The "London" being tacked on is clearly something that has its origins in colonialism - surely anyone can see that. It's a good symbol of one culture imposing itself on another actually.
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+1 from all of us here in Lagoslongford

luckylucky

Dudess wrote: »

Derry. The "London" being tacked on is clearly something that has its origins in colonialism - surely anyone can see that. It's a good symbol of one culture imposing itself on another actually.

Well in Derry's case it's only sort of that type of case. The London being tacked on was done as a gesture of thanks to the City of London Guilds which gave aid to the city during the Jacobite siege.

destroyer wrote: »

+1 from all of us here in Lagoslongford

Has a nice ring to it. :P. Makes ye sound all cosmopolitan.

bluefinger

if you're feeling especially dipomatic (or unsure of the company you're in) you can call it Stroke City.

shouldn't this be included in the poll?

AckwelFoley

An doire is an anim.

testicle

The county as we know it is Derry. The English don't have 6 counties in NI, they have 26 districts.

The city on the other hand is Londonderry to them, and Derry to us.

jimmycrackcorm

Where's the poll option for LDerry?

Thundercats Ho

On a holiday in spain 10 or so years ago, i got speaking to a group who said they were from co. derry. I asked the almost instintive question of anyone in the republic, 'derry or londonderry?'. They answered (without being smart arses) have you ever been up? 'no' i said. 'well then, what difference does it make?' turns out they were gaa lads. I thought it was a fair point, and home is home no matter what its called. Never asked it again.

MagicMarker

Who the fúck gives a shít?

PurpleFistMixer

bluefinger wrote: »

if you're feeling especially dipomatic (or unsure of the company you're in) you can call it Stroke City.

shouldn't this be included in the poll?

There shall be no fence-sitting!

Royale with Cheese

Dublinderry

Richard

luckylucky wrote: »

Afaik the official name of the city is Derry - changed it a while back, and the official name of the county is Londonderry - haven't heard that it changed.

Not quite. There was a court case which came down in favour of Londonderry.

Officially called Londonderry:
Londonderry (the city)
Co. Londonderry
Londonderry Port
Foyle and Londonderry College

Officially called Derry:
City of Derry Airport (but the code is LDY)
Derry City FC
Derry GAA
Derry City Council
Lots of other things

Indidentally athough Londonderry the city was once officially Derry, there was never a Co. Derry officially. It was Co. Coleraine.

And what is official doesn't affect what names people actually use.

Dudess

MagicMarker wrote: »

Who the fúck gives a shít?

Translation: "I don't give a sh*t, therefore nobody else should."

regob

just to clarify its county derry, and the city is technicalle called londonderry, but is most commonly referred to as derry aswell.

PK2008

Let the Brits call it LondonDerry if they want, sure dont they own it:pac:

Man Id hate to be ruled by the Brits, you guys should really do something about that.......

Mimikyu

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sceptre

PK2008 wrote: »

Man Id hate to be ruled by the Brits, you guys should really do something about that.......

****stirrer:D

pablomakaveli

According to yesterday's papers people from Derry applying for an Irish passport will now be able to have Londonderry on their passport. More surprising it said Unionists are applying for Irish passports.:eek:

I'll try and dig up a link if i can find one.

EDIT: Heres one.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/londonderry-loyalists-signing-up-for-irish-passports-1703836.html

Purple Gorilla

pablomakaveli wrote: »

According to yesterday's papers people from Derry applying for an Irish passport will now be able to have Londonderry on their passport. More surprising it said Unionists are applying for Irish passports.:eek:

I'll try and dig up a link if i can find one.

EDIT: Heres one.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/londonderry-loyalists-signing-up-for-irish-passports-1703836.html

TBH I think it's pretty stupid...if you want an Irish Passport then you should accept the Irish Placename

GlasnevinRed

I call it Derry because up until a while ago I never realised that there was an alternative name. Plus 2 syllables is too much effort.

Iolar

Iolar wrote: »

The Free State of Derry?

Queen-Mise wrote: »

The Peoples Republic of Derry

Splitters.

Jim236

Jigsaw wrote: »

I think the official name is Londonderry but peopele name it as they please. If t is any consolation the district council is called Derry City Council. Doesn't matter really tbh.

In the UK its 'official' name is L'derry(despite the majority in the city wanting it to be called Derry, so much for democracy:rolleyes:), but in Ireland it's official name is Derry. I'm Irish, I was born in Ireland, I live in Ireland, therefore its Derry to me.

Wasn't the British queen meant to change the city charter anyway this year from L'derry to Derry? Doesn't really matter I suppose, the Brits can call it what they like, it'll always be Derry in Ireland, thats all that matters.

getz

Jim236 wrote: »

In the UK its 'official' name is L'derry(despite the majority in the city wanting it to be called Derry, so much for democracy:rolleyes:), but in Ireland it's official name is Derry. I'm Irish, I was born in Ireland, I live in Ireland, therefore its Derry to me.

Wasn't the British queen meant to change the city charter anyway this year from L'derry to Derry? Doesn't really matter I suppose, the Brits can call it what they like, it'll always be Derry in Ireland, thats all that matters.

the original name for derry[londonderry ] is doire[place of oaks ] but if a native of this city said i am from doir he would sound like homer simson, so let cut out the london and its easer to spell, but i still have to find a member of this city who calls the tune londonderry air the derry air ,just dosent sound quite the same