Would like to buy a rolex

bogmanfan

There are 2 jewellers upstairs in the Powerscourt centre that have a good selection of used Rolex. No idea on prices though...

Gavin1

The issue with used Rolex from a dealer is that they are generally highly polished. This polishing can and does remove the sharpness of the case and some of the cases have defined and sharp edges.
Unless the polishing is done well or by Rolex they can look brutal!!

I would look to purchase from an individual and either unpolished or Rolex serviced.

StealthRolex

Cyrus wrote: »

watches.co.uk are very reputable, dawson jewellers on dawson street will have them aswell, altho they tend to be a little more helter skelter re having papers etc,

id goto the uk if was you and go with either watches.co.uk or blowers jewellers.

which model interests you

These guys are highly recommended - I've met John, the owner, and dealt with him a number of times. Whether you want to buy or convert your collection to cash you won't go wrong.

Anyone who bought the older model GMT 2 is up a grand (stg) this year since the new ceramic bezel hit the grey market.

StealthRolex

Gavin1 wrote: »

The issue with used Rolex from a dealer is that they are generally highly polished. This polishing can and does remove the sharpness of the case and some of the cases have defined and sharp edges.
Unless the polishing is done well or by Rolex they can look brutal!!

I would look to purchase from an individual and either unpolished or Rolex serviced.

watches.co.uk get Rolex to certify all they watches that arrive in without an original certificate. It's only a receipt but it's good to know that Rolex London have had a look and are happy.

For servicing he uses an independent Rolex technician. If that's a problem you can always take it to Wiers later.

John will not arrange for any polishing or repair work to be carried out without the buyers approval and will only arrange a standard service. If the watch has a ding he'll tell you and show you - with a loupe if required.

bobcar61

Rolex are good watches and some nice looking ones as well but how can you justify spending €3,000 - €5,000 on a watch.Buy one for €60 or so,they all do exactly the same thing.
We are in a recession here.

P.S Did you win the lotto or something?

Cyrus

bobcar61 wrote: »

Rolex are good watches and some nice looking ones as well but how can you justify spending €3,000 - €5,000 on a watch.Buy one for €60 or so,they all do exactly the same thing.
We are in a recession here.

P.S Did you win the lotto or something?

:rolleyes:

Thomas_S_Hunterson

bobcar61 wrote: »

Rolex are good watches and some nice looking ones as well but how can you justify spending €3,000 - €5,000 on a watch.Buy one for €60 or so,they all do exactly the same thing.
We are in a recession here.

P.S Did you win the lotto or something?

Wrong place for comments like that mate:p

StealthRolex

Cyrus wrote: »

watches.co.uk are very reputable, dawson jewellers on dawson street will have them aswell, altho they tend to be a little more helter skelter re having papers etc,

id goto the uk if was you and go with either watches.co.uk or blowers jewellers.

which model interests you

Just on the Dawson jewellers - my own experience is that they are not the friendliest unless they think you are actually going to buy, but more seriously their prices are way can be way off the mark and not in the buyers favour either.

The friendly thing could have been a bad day or too many browsers but I would suggest doing the research on prices first.

Cyrus

StealthRolex wrote: »

Just on the Dawson jewellers - my own experience is that they are not the friendliest unless they think you are actually going to buy, but more seriously their prices are way can be way off the mark and not in the buyers favour either.

The friendly thing could have been a bad day or too many browsers but I would suggest doing the research on prices first.

my missus and her bro got a s/h bimetal datejust from them for their dad for his 60th and it was priced well and they were very nice, but thats my only experience of them

StealthRolex

bobcar61 wrote: »

Rolex are good watches and some nice looking ones as well but how can you justify spending €3,000 - €5,000 on a watch.Buy one for €60 or so,they all do exactly the same thing.
We are in a recession here.

P.S Did you win the lotto or something?

Do some research on Rolex and you'll see. They may be "over-priced" and this is mainly because Rolex want exclusivity but if you compare their manufacturing, development and after market care with other makers you can see the difference. if you buy an Omega and send it for service they only take care of the innards. Send your 10, 20, 30 , 40, 50 year old to Rolex for a service and it will come back looking like it just left the factory.

As for the recession. 18 months to 2 years ago the old GMT2 was selling on the second hand market for £1900 stg. Today it is selling for £2900.

A €60 high street watch is worth nothing after you leave the shop.

In a recession if people are going to buy they buy quality. Or they don't buy. On a Rolex, as long as it's not new, you will get most of your money back if you have to sell it. if you buy a Seiko, Casio, Lorus, Seconda or any other inexpensive watch you will get back less than 50% if it's the right Seiko and nothing if it's one of the others.

There are exceptions - if you buy a Rolex Cosmograph in steel brand new it is already worth up to 30% more due to the long wait times and even in a recession there is always someone with money to spend and in need of a little "product therapy".

That said if all you want is a cheap timekeeper and have no appreciation or interest in fine workmanship or attention to detail you can't go wrong with Casio.

And yes, this is the wrong forum for that comment however it does prompt some thinking. Have you noticed how the price of gold does up during a recession?
That tells us a number of things.
- There are people or organizations with money to spend
- high value commodities still have value in a recession
- in a recession if people spend they spend wisely

It also provides an opportunity to discuss one of the main differences between Rolex and other providers of luxury goods. There are no Rolex shareholders, they are not stock market quoted and hence are beholden to no-one but themselves. The entire company is based on a trust, backed by serious funding from profit re-investment which means that while craftsmen in Waterford can watch their skilled jobs go to a lower cost country the craftsmen working for Rolex have no such fears.

This company can ride out the recession out where others will collapse.

MooseJam

StealthRolex wrote: »

That said if all you want is a cheap timekeeper and have no appreciation or interest in fine workmanship or attention to detail you can't go wrong with Casio.

That said if all you want is a massively overpriced status symbol and have no interest in new technology you can't go wrong with a Rolex.

Slutmonkey57b

Or have no taste or place any value on the concept of progression in design.
Incidentally, the name Rolex was a marketing invention to give the illusion of the familial swiss watchmaking tradition of houses like Breguet, where the company is named after the founder. Cynical marketing trumps all in the house of Rolex.

StealthRolex

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Or have no taste or place any value on the concept of progression in design.
Incidentally, the name Rolex was a marketing invention to give the illusion of the familial swiss watchmaking tradition of houses like Breguet, where the company is named after the founder. Cynical marketing trumps all in the house of Rolex.

Your are correct in saying it was a marketing invention, but the intention was to create a name that was pronounceable in almost every country.

You could throw a similar cynical accusation at Patek for moving to Switzerland because Polish watches don't sell well, but it would be preferable to do the research and get the facts right first.

StealthRolex

MooseJam wrote: »

That said if all you want is a massively overpriced status symbol and have no interest in new technology you can't go wrong with a Rolex.

I think the recent improvements show how Rolex do move with technology. Check out you-tube for the videos on the new GMT II - the one with the scratchproof ceramic bezel, improved bracelet and hairspring.

What's nice about Rolex is that they don't follow fashion trends. It seems their attitude is "if it works, it works". This makes the vast majority of their collection timeless.

maybe it's just me - I like 90's Mercs better than the more recent Chrysler MBs for the same reason - over engineered and they work - limited styling changes.

I'm also a wannabe Luddite http://static.boards.ie/vbulletin/images/icons/icon12.gif

StealthRolex

MooseJam wrote: »

That said if all you want is a massively overpriced status symbol and have no interest in new technology you can't go wrong with a Rolex.

I think the Omega Planet Ocean Co-Axial fits the bill better for an overpriced status symbol. Get the orange if you want to show off or the black if you think you're Daniel Craig.

He wears a vintage Rolex in Layer Cake and does a better Bond impression with the Luger.

Gavin1

StealthRolex wrote: »

I think the recent improvements show how Rolex do move with technology. Check out you-tube for the videos on the new GMT II - the one with the scratchproof ceramic bezel, improved bracelet and hairspring.

What's nice about Rolex is that they don't follow fashion trends. It seems their attitude is "if it works, it works". This makes the vast majority of their collection timeless.

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Bang on StealthRolex.

There are not too many watch companies that have a metal foundry on site!

However there recently there have been some concessions to fashion, check out the Leopard Daytona. A bit of a niche!

StealthRolex

bedlam wrote: »

Except that accusation would be unfounded. The reason Patek ended up making watches in Switzerland was due to the fact that the French forced Polish insurgents of the November Uprising (of which he was one) out of France, where he was living at the time, to Switzerland. His foray into watch making only happened after his move to Switzerland, having been introduced to Haute Horologie by friends in Paris.

Now we're suckin' diesel - good research mate. Do you have a reference for this?

Don't forget that Czapek was already a watchmaker who employed a number of Poles and Czechs so essentially PP+ watches are mostly Polish with French influence that are not made in Warsaw.

StealthRolex

Gavin1 wrote: »

Bang on StealthRolex.

There are not too many watch companies that have a metal foundry on site!

However there recently there have been some concessions to fashion, check out the Leopard Daytona. A bit of a niche!

Don't forget the pink, yellow, blue and green ones they had a few years ago.

There have always been concessions to "fashion" in the Rolex house. The use of diamonds, rubies, emeralds, mother of pearl and other precious jems comes to mind.

Rolex appears to server three markets -
those who want a fine , durable, reliable, accurate tool - sports or dress;
those who want the same but in platinum so only they and their insurance company know how expensive it really is;
and those who want to embarass themselves. They pay the bills after all.

personally, if I ever find myself looking for a fashion watch I think I'll go for the Urwerk 202

StealthRolex

bedlam wrote: »

I'm a bit lost at what point you are trying to make regarding the hiring of certain nationalities, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a Swiss watch manufacturer that didn't have non swiss nationals on staff, so as far as I can tell we are both agreeing that PP are Swiss made and it wasn't because Polish watches wouldn't sell

no point, just few boiling chips - it became an extension of the point to slutmonkey regarding Breguet - watchmaker - Wilsdorf - cynical ad man.

Sometimes my obtuse efforts to ameliorate watch snobbery or ignorance don't always tick

mark renton

Ok so it looks like Yachtmaster (Mid Size) 3.3k

http://www.watches.co.uk/watches/search/?meth=norm&mk=Rolex&g=1&sr=70

1 last question - am I expected to pay any sort of duty/tax buying from UK?

as the below note is on the site

"Please note we only buy and sell watches from UK & Northern Ireland postal addresses"

buck65

bump
what y'all think of Rolex now?

Cyrus

buck65 wrote: »

bump
what y'all think of Rolex now?

in what respect

20/20

Yes what is wrong with ROLEX.

buck65

I just found this thread and rather than start a new thread on Rolex I thought I would add to this.
Personally I just don't see the magic, I appreciate the brand and know they are well made etc. BUT what is it with Rolex?
Why are they so damn poplular?! Maybe I secretly crave one...

Cyrus

well like anything aspirational they are popular because they are popular, also the s/s models hold their value better than most watches at the price point.

the only one that does it for me is the new GTM2C, and maybe the platinum dialled yachtmaster,

im hoping to get my mitts on the GMT this year at some stage

truetime

I would say Keanes Jewellers in Limerick or Cork is a top!!!!!

PM me if you need more details

Bests

noelo

john47832 wrote: »

Dont know much about watches, but I do know I dont want a fake - defeats the purpose, which is to own a nice rolex - as a reward for my hard work if you like

Is there anywhere on the net where I can get a look at what I would get for that sort of money - has to be

Cyrus

noelo wrote: »

john47832 wrote: »

Dont know much about watches, but I do know I dont want a fake - defeats the purpose, which is to own a nice rolex - as a reward for my hard work if you like

Is there anywhere on the net where I can get a look at what I would get for that sort of money - has to be

watchfinder.co.uk

watches.co.uk

Bullseye1

Watchfinder had a Sub for around £2900 about a week ago, part of their sale on Rolex.

mcko

I bought a ROlex in 1998 in Keanes in Cork, I always wanted one so I bought it, I think I paid 2500 punts for it. I wear it every day and I work in a chemical plant,it never let me down and still looks as good today as it did when I bought it. I got it serviced in December and it came back looking like new.it is a GMT Master.
I love mine, if you have the money and you want one then buy one.

I could never understand how to set the second time zone with the red hand.