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So Harney has just banned BZP...

  • 31-03-2009 4:50pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭sunnyjim


    So Harney has just banned BZP... Who is affected?

    Not me, for sure!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Vain


    If i knew what it is id tell you. But it mustn't affect me as i know nothing of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Well it is a drug so I am not surprised,are you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV


    its the stuff in the ''herbal extacy'' and most of those pills from those sorta shops!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Awful drug, she's still a useless fat mess though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I'm more in shock that she actually knew how to do something!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,093 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Don't know what it is, but if it's being banned then I doubt I'll be affected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭Mister Fister


    good riddance, thats some horrible sh*t that! yeah shes still a fat mess!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Black Zelot Protestants?

    Small minority movement, thought they were too small to ban..

    But hey..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Good choice i think? Have never taken it myself but it's apparently fap more potent than Es?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    Well the drug dealers will be happy. Sales of E's should increase quite a bit I would imagine.

    Horrible horrible stuff, well done Harney - Have a ham sandwich. Or two....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,121 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    A mate of mine done some research into BZP capsules (he's a pharmacist) after his brother got some in a Head Shop. Of all the capsules he tested, 8/10 of them included ingredients that weren't listed on the pack. Mostly filler, but it just goes to show that you can't trust labels from the companies that produce them.

    As for BZP itself. Well, it was developed for worming cattle. That's a good enough reason not to take them, imo =p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭pierrot


    Good. I've done it a couple of times, no harm it's been banned. Unless people get a buzz from staying awake for thirty hours saying nothing. No loss at all, and it's pretty dodgy if taken with other stuff. Well done Hairy Marney!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Well it is a drug so I am not surprised,are you?

    Not DRUGS?! I hate drugs! In fact, I am so upset I think I need a drink. Think I'll have a smoke on the way to calm me down. No coffee for me tonight, caffeine and the stress will keep me awake! Plus it can give me headaches, but I suppose I could just take some sleeping tablets and painkillers and get a good night's rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    i tried it once because it was legal.

    horrible horrible stuff.

    sleepless nights, paranoia and all that. not good at all!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Who really cares in fairness? :pac:

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    BZP was also used for weight loss.......

    ........no f*cking surprise that Harney want's it gone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Nforce wrote: »
    BZP was also used for weight loss.......

    ........no f*cking surprise that Harney want's it gone!

    She...wants to be fat and is afraid someone will force her to take it...? How does that even begin to make sense in your head?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    She more or less banned a lot of girls from having a cancer vaccine as well:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    Zillah wrote: »
    She...wants to be fat and is afraid someone will force her to take it...? How does that even begin to make sense in your head?


    http://tinyurl.com/2e44tx :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Don't really see a problem.
    From reading here, not too many people liked it anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Nforce wrote: »

    I'm sorry, you seem to think that having a sense of humour means you laugh at really bad jokes that make no sense. I'd have thought otherwise.

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Rolleyes smiley is worse than the holocaust. So is your wit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Well, at least they've done something right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Well the drug dealers will be happy. Sales of E's should increase quite a bit I would imagine.

    Horrible horrible stuff, well done Harney - Have a ham sandwich. Or two....

    ..more like the entire animal.

    I agree, drugs should be being banned in a well-thought out and controlled manner with easiness at first so the pushers dont get their claws in too deep. But no, that could never happen here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Nforce wrote: »
    The problem is that noone would laugh unless they were mildly retarded or a sycophant.

    You made an unfunny joke, just accept it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    Zillah wrote: »
    Not DRUGS?! I hate drugs! In fact, I am so upset I think I need a drink. Think I'll have a smoke on the way to calm me down. No coffee for me tonight, caffeine and the stress will keep me awake! Plus it can give me headaches, but I suppose I could just take some sleeping tablets and painkillers and get a good night's rest.

    Non-taxable drugs are bad, mmkay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭manta356


    We had a car registered bzp (donegal reg circa 1976),can we not use it now.? lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    galwayrush wrote: »
    She more or less banned a lot of girls from having a cancer vaccine as well:rolleyes:

    Banned? The fúck she did. I'm not a fan of Harney by any stretch of the imagination but all that death sentence bollocks pisses me off. The cervical cancer vaccine is still available to girls. Read the link in my sig if you're interested.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    Dreadful stuff. I used it once and I couldn't sleep or get it up for three days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Tago Mago wrote: »
    I couldn't sleep or get it up for three days.

    Mary Harney has that effect on me too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    SV wrote: »
    Good choice i think? Have never taken it myself but it's apparently fap more potent than Es?
    It's not any where near the same effect. E is more potent in that it's a proper high. BZP is just muck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    I think I've heard of this. There was a retard on the Adrian Kennedy phone show going on about how they mess with your head and no one should take them. It was only after about 10 minutes that he mentioned he took about 15 of them at once. So his argument wasn't so much against the drug as overdosing on it like a retard. He didn't seem to grasp that though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 861 ✭✭✭KeyLimePie


    Drugs are bad and anyone who needs them to have a good time or enjoy themselves need help :)

    and before people say it, yes I do drink but never to an excess !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭zig


    KeyLimePie wrote: »
    Drugs are bad and anyone who needs them to have a good time or enjoy themselves need help :)

    and before people say it, yes I do drink but never to an excess !
    This post annoys me on so many levels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    So Miss Hearney finally got around to try it and obviously didn't like it.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭misty floyd


    KeyLimePie wrote: »
    Drugs are bad and anyone who needs them to have a good time or enjoy themselves need help :)

    Just curious, are you joking?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Just curious, are you joking?

    Or Stoned.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I wonder will Harney ban nutmeg next?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭zonEEE


    In fairness this is going to make people who wanted to try out drugs the legal way, go straight onto yokes. Them party pills leave a lot longer skag then the real mccoy tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    good riddance, took a few of them party pills once and felt like **** for days.worse than a comedown from regular pills.if i had a choice over the two id be taking the illegal stuff-that says a lot!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 633 ✭✭✭dublinario


    I took a couple of those bad boys at a party last Summer and permanently lost the ability to blink. Granted, I did gain X-Ray vision, but I'd give anything to be able to blink again. My cheeks are permanently wet with tears.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    zig wrote: »
    This post annoys me on so many levels

    Agreed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Captain Ginger


    KeyLimePie wrote: »
    Drugs are bad and anyone who needs them to have a good time or enjoy themselves need help :)

    and before people say it, yes I do drink but never to an excess !

    How does it feel up there on that ever so high horse of yours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Monkey61


    That's a shame. I thought they were quite good actually...lovely buzz and none of the comedown. Strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    i think she had something to do with banning PD's as well.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    This is more of a stab against the Head shops. The makers of the herbal pills will just change the ingredients as they have done before I believe.

    Still, I have to admit at being pissed off. As someone who used to do very illegal things but has since grown out of it, I liked being able to enter a shop and make an informed decision (based on my own research) and try out recreational drugs as opposed to the old days of meeting some scumbag on a doss council housing estate when I was younger and foolish. I'm old enough to do so, and whatever I do in the privacy of my own home with consenting adults isn't really anyone elses business.

    Thank god I'm off work this week. I am going to ****ing boot it down at 9 tomorrow to get my claws on whatever I can.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Biggins wrote: »
    I'm more in shock that she actually knew how to do something!
    Apparently she was actually trying to open a new specialised cystic fibrosis ward, but she accidentally banned BZP instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭generalmiaow


    some links and info here

    I won't be affected by this tbh, they might as well be banning red bull and turpentine. I don't really understand the government's strategy here though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    Did I ever tell you about the time, about 2/3 years ago, I was standing in a line outside an ATM and Mary Harney waddled up to me? It was election time and she came over and almost grabbed my ****ing hand off as I was minding my own business and shot off before I had time to properly react. Jesus if I could go back in time...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Pub07


    Shure they're just gonna bring in some replacement for it now anyway. Might even be something decent, that BZP was crap, had it a couple of times and said never again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    CCCP^ wrote: »
    This is more of a stab against the Head shops. The makers of the herbal pills will just change the ingredients as they have done before I believe.

    Still, I have to admit at being pissed off. As someone who used to do very illegal things but has since grown out of it, I liked being able to enter a shop and make an informed decision (based on my own research) and try out recreational drugs as opposed to the old days of meeting some scumbag on a doss council housing estate when I was younger and foolish. I'm old enough to do so, and whatever I do in the privacy of my own home with consenting adults isn't really anyone elses business.

    Thank god I'm off work this week. I am going to ****ing boot it down at 9 tomorrow to get my claws on whatever I can.

    TBH I'm not going to get into what I think of adults (Im talking 25+) still taking BZP, as I'll come off condescending and all the more conservative than I actually am. Nor will I debate against people who think the rules don't apply to them and that taking banned substances is their god given choice/right. The interests of society > the interests of liberal hippies.

    What I will say is good riddance. Awful fuckin things altogether. If this ban saves some poor unsuspecting kid the horror bad trip I have experienced on these things then I'm all for it. I took them half a dozen times a few years back and on one occasion (same brand/amount I always took) I took a horrible turn and had the worst night of my life. In short I nearly died.

    My satisfaction at the banning of BZP is half for the above reason, and half to stick it to the scumbag head shop owners who do not discern at all between adults and the kids they shamelessly serve. My 14 year old nephew can - and has - walked into these shops and been served without the shop owner as much as batting an eyelid. I had to be stopped from going down and dragging him over the counter.

    As the head shops have 95% market share for party pills in Ireland, I hope it really fucks their bottom line in the arse, because they've been given every oportunity to step up to their responsibility to not push this shite on kids, but their greed stops them.


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