Anyone willing to design company logo for free?

clusk007

Hello, we are a small business and looking for help with logo design as none of us have experience and little or no budget. I was wondering if anybody would be willing to help us free of charge maybe as your college project or something like that. Anyway pm me if you are interested.

Thanks a lot

Barname

what kind of business are you running?

fcleere

yes more details would be good!

Baggio...

clusk007 wrote: »

I was wondering if anybody would be willing to help us free of charge maybe as your college project or something like that.

Are you having a laugh? Does your company work for free? Didn't think so...

Hmm... the next time my plumbing goes in my gaff, I'll get the local plumber out. I'm sure he'll spend his valuable time working for me for absolutely no cash whatsoever.

clusk007

Baggio... wrote: »

Are you having a laugh? Does your company work for free? Didn't think so...

Hmm... the next time my plumbing goes in my gaff, I'll get the local plumber out. I'm sure he'll spend his valuable time working for me for absolutely no cash whatsoever.

Baggio, relax! I'm sure some people have this as a hobby or interest and would be quite proud to see their design on display in Cork, which is where the business is. It was only a suggestion and I'm not demanding help from anybody. Times are tough for everybody at the moment and every little helps so I don't think there is any harm in trying. Anyway we are a sports facility.
pm me if you are interested.

seanybiker

clusk007 wrote: »

Baggio, relax! I'm sure some people have this as a hobby or interest and would be quite proud to see their design on display in Cork.

To bloody right. If I done that as a hobby and had the chance to have it displayed on a business I would be delighted. Best of luck getting it done bud.

Seen a few of there threads now. Wonder if any business used the ideas from posters here. Be cool to see the finished product on a shop front or wherever.

Baggio...

clusk007 wrote: »

It was only a suggestion and I'm not demanding help from anybody. Times are tough for everybody at the moment and every little helps so I don't think there is any harm in trying. Anyway we are a sports facility.

Yep, times are tough for designers too - so you should pay. They gotta eat like everyone else.

Sure, why don't you offer some free sports tuition, or let a few people use your facilities for free? It's only sports after all... (you could say that's more of a hobby really).

And if your only after a hobbyist - why not have a go yourself? Personally, I don't know any "hobbyist" graphic designers out there (plenty of amateur artists alright).

A college project?? Thought you said you wanted a hobbyist.

Anyone that works for free (excluding charity work) does themselves, and our industry a great disservice.


Even if you are on a tight budget - I'm sure you could afford to pay something to the student your looking for. After all, if you want a pro job (high quality) it could cost up to 70 euro an hour.

clusk007

Baggio... wrote: »

Yep, times are tough for designers too - so you should pay. They gotta eat like everyone else.

Sure, why don't you offer some free sports tuition, or let a few people use your facilities for free? It's only sports after all... (you could say that's more of a hobby really).

And if your only after a hobbyist - why not have a go yourself? Personally, I don't know any "hobbyist" graphic designers out there (plenty of amateur artists alright).

A college project?? Thought you said you wanted a hobbyist.

Anyone that works for free (excluding charity work) does themselves, and our industry a great disservice.


Even if you are on a tight budget - I'm sure you could afford to pay something to the student your looking for. After all, if you want a pro job (high quality) it could cost up to 70 euro an hour.

Look you're not interested and that's fair enough. I did have a go myself and quite frankly im rubbish at it! College project or hobbyist or whatever. It might appeal to someone. I don't see how it would do a great disservice to your industry for someone to help someone else out but I'll leave it at that.

here.from.day.1

Baggio... wrote: »

Are you having a laugh? Does your company work for free? Didn't think so...

Hmm... the next time my plumbing goes in my gaff, I'll get the local plumber out. I'm sure he'll spend his valuable time working for me for absolutely no cash whatsoever.

Was there really any need for that? As he said somebody might get a kick out of it and not everybody needs something in return for doing something.

mood

I agree it would be a good idea to offer your companies services free in exchange for free design services. If your a gym a free years membership or similar might be considered good or free tickets to matches etc.

forbairt

As Baggio... and Mood have said .. why not offer something in return.

Gym membership if ye are that ... for a few months will cost ye nothing as such given ye are just starting out ... and who knows it could develop a nice relationship with the graphic designer who ends up making your logo.

Times are hard ... we all have to eat .. (or work out) ...

Baggio...

here.from.day.1 wrote: »

Was there really any need for that? As he said somebody might get a kick out of it and not everybody needs something in return for doing something.

Yes there was.... He was offering absolutely nothing, but wanted someone to spend their time for the good of his own business. How's that a fair trade??

I definitely agree with the op suggestion. If Mr. Sports business man can't pay (yeah, right - stop one nights drinking). Then he could at least offer something in return (use of a gym, or some other service, etc).

Other than, "hey, look your art will be seen in cork helping my business grow".

Baggio...

forbairt wrote: »

Times are hard ... we all have to eat .. (or work out) ...

So tru...

forbairt

logo work is going to take anywhere from 20 minutes to 20 days ... the proof will be in the final result so to speak so why not take some pride in your own business and barter some services ...

I know in the past I needed some writing done for me and it worked out nicely for the other guy as well at the end of the day you leave with a lot better feeling than just a .. HA HA .. look at what I got for nothing .. win .. that poor sap what an idi...

Owen

I think everyone needs to chill.

The guy is asking if someone is interested in designing a logo for free. If you're not, then don't - but don't chastise the guy for asking. Someone somewhere might genuinely be interested in doing this work just for kudos on the CV.

The rest of you attacking him are not really doing much except dragging the thread off topic.

tricky D

Ah clusk007 again!

You asked about this in the Web Dev forum and it got closed there so now you're here.

You say you've no money yet your business is uses sports and baby care equipment which are very expensive items, yet you claim poverty when it comes to the matter of a logo. That doesn't add up and sounds like cute hoorism simply bumming for a free ride. You don't even offer any barter - now that's even more than cheeky. You talk about being proud to have work displayed. Well bugger to that, pride has nothing to do with the fact that I've a wife, kids, cats, dogs, budgies, gerbils, hamsters, chickens, an ex-wife with her kids and pets, 2 mistresses, my blackmailer, etc... to support.

A design firm could charge up to 2k for an identity and logo and you want it for free. I hope you get exactly what you pay for.

Baggio...

tricky D wrote: »

Ah clusk007 again!
A design firm could charge up to 2k for an identity and logo and you want it for free. I hope you get exactly what you pay for.

Amen to that brother! :cool:

ned78 wrote: »

The rest of you attacking him are not really doing much except dragging the thread off topic.

Sorry mod - I'll leave it there now, but I still stand behind my previous points.

I'll keep rearing my ugly head whenever anyone asks for specialist work for free - It's just the principal of the thing. If I get banned I get banned.

We go through a lot of training and hard work to become good at our profession. IMO it should never be given away.... Just like any other job. You wouldn't go into a Pizzeria and ask for a free Pizza, why should design or art be any different?

forbairt

Baggio... wrote: »

Sorry mod - I'll leave it there now, but I still stand behind my previous points.

Figment, LoLth are the Mods of DA&D Ned is just voicing his opinion as are we.

forbairt

ned78 wrote: »

I think everyone needs to chill.

The guy is asking if someone is interested in designing a logo for free. If you're not, then don't - but don't chastise the guy for asking. Someone somewhere might genuinely be interested in doing this work just for kudos on the CV.

The rest of you attacking him are not really doing much except dragging the thread off topic.

Ned while it may be dragging it off topic can I assume you're not a graphic designer / artist ?

The good old it'll look good on your CV is a common ploy used and when you're starting out you're probably happy to have your logo out there but in this case its a business looking for the logo.

Its not a club / association / non profit / individual ... but a proper business

These days companies are investing more and more money in marketing and advertising and trying to get their businesses online and SEO / SEM work

Baggio...

forbairt wrote: »

Figment, LoLth are the Mods of DA&D Ned is just voicing his opinion as are we.

Hah... Cheers for the info. And of course Ned and friends are totally entitled to their opinion.

That's great, I can now keep on with the holy crusade, against those cheap aases that want something for nothing.

forbairt wrote: »

Ned while it may be dragging it off topic can I assume you're not a graphic designer / artist ?

The good old it'll look good on your CV is a common ploy

Yeah, if I had a quid for every time someone said that to me - I'd be retired by now.

Oldest trick in the book.

Dave!

OP don't mind the whingers, personally I'd be happy to do it for free (not that I'd invest a huge amount of time in it or anything) if I thought I had the skills. It would be good to have on the CV, and won't cost me alot.

I make banners and logos for people's sigs on boards and don't get anything in return... Just cos it's a 'big bad business' doesn't mean I shouldn't do likewise.

forbairt

Dave! wrote: »

OP don't mind the whingers, personally I'd be happy to do it for free (not that I'd invest a huge amount of time in it or anything) if I thought I had the skills. It would be good to have on the CV, and won't cost me alot.

Depends on how you value your time

Dave!

Evidentally I don't value it highly, since I spend some of it making banners for sigs on boards

Owen

forbairt wrote: »

Ned while it may be dragging it off topic can I assume you're not a graphic designer / artist ?

I do web design work, photography and Music, along with a small hand in the Motor Trade. So yes, I do understand the ethics and economics of it all. I'm just sh*t sick of people on boards getting on a high moral horse and dragging threads off topic as a consequence.

The guy asked if someone wanted to do it for free, if you're not interested, then don't post. Or start another thread complaining about people looking for freebees - otherwise it's just threadspoiling.

Baggio...

ned78 wrote: »

The guy asked if someone wanted to do it for free, if you're not interested, then don't post. Or start another thread complaining about people looking for freebees - otherwise it's just threadspoiling.

Thread spoiling!? In all fairness I don't think it's groundbreaking thread by any means. If a mod wants to ban me, because he/she thinks I'm just doing this out of spite - then so be it.

I'm just also highlighting the fact that some people will chance their arm. If a few of you guys here want to help him out for free, that's your choice.

If he's looking for freebies maybe it should be in the charity section:rolleyes:.

The bottom line is, what harm would it do for him to throw a few quid to a design student (obviously he's not into the whole pro route:D)?

ned78 wrote: »

I do web design work, photography and Music, along with a small hand in the Motor Trade.

Do you make a living from it? Just curious....

Owen

Baggio... wrote: »

The bottom line is, what harm would it do for him to throw a few quid to a design student (obviously he's not into the whole pro route:D)?

He's not asking to pay someone, he's asking for a freebie. If you have an issue with it, either report the post, start a new discussion about it, or move on. You're being grossly unfair to the OP, and continuing to disrupt his request - no matter if he's worth 1 Euro, or 1 Million Euro, he's still entitled to ask the question without the high morals, pitchforks and fire, and threadspoiling occuring.

I may not moderate this forum, and I hope I'm not upsetting the Moderators here by saying this, but honestly, I'd be warning/infracting anyone who did the same in the forum I moderate for doing the same.

Baggio... wrote: »

Do you make a living from it? Just curious....

Yes. And on occassion, I'll do work for free too if I think it's interesting enough. Not everyone's a miser.

forbairt

Dave! wrote: »

Evidentally I don't value it highly, since I spend some of it making banners for sigs on boards

I guess I see charity work / sigs and banners for the community as worthwhile and rewarding in the thanks that are given. Your average "joe" not really having a budget to spend on their sig on here as there is no major return from it more of a fun thing.

A commercial logo I see as something taking away from your professional working time .. Also the end individual is profiting from your work

probably not explaining myself that well bunged up with a cold and maybe its just a case of tomay toes .. vrs ... tomaa toes ...

Number one

I'm with Forbairt and baggio on this one. They are right to protect they're profession from being devalued.

Its not thread spoiling its an outcry against exploitation which surely should be discouraged.

If its designing a logo for a charity I couldn't promote it more. However, for a business in a successful industry seeking free design work, preying upon young designers trying to get their work out there is just brazen and manipulative.

As regards having it on your CV thats pants. Spend the time on adding something new to your portfolio.

Owen

Number one wrote: »

Its not thread spoiling

It most certainly, in every definition of the term, is threadspoiling. If posters feel that strongly about this issue, start a new thread about it - there you can debate the morals of it ad nauseum and leave this thread be.

forbairt

Number one wrote: »

As regards having it on your CV thats pants. Spend the time on adding something new to your portfolio.

Get involved with one of the open source projects that you find lacking on the graphics front ... it can be great for getting your name out there.

I've done work for charities in the past completely free as well as for other charity groups. I've also lended people a hand with things in the past and I guess I'm commenting from experience here that the it'll look great on your CV ploy sounds great when you're just starting off but in the long run it doesn't do a hell of a lot for you.


Ned78 .. I've actually no problem if you want to go ahead and report the thread ...

Personally I see the original request as commercial work whether its free or not and the place for that is over on Adverts .. ( looking at the rules of the forum .. though feel free to correct me )

Owen

forbairt wrote: »

Ned78 .. I've actually no problem if you want to go ahead and report the thread ...

I've no intention of reporting the post, only trying to highlight that people on boards really need to calm down and stop threadjacking in general. I mean it's easy, if you have an issue with this thread you can

a) Start a new one to discuss the issues raised within this one
b) PM the offending party and ask for clarification
c) Report the post

They're simple, common sense rules, and display good manners above all. And if we can't have good manners, then what's the point?