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Anyone willing to design company logo for free?
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30-03-2009 4:39pm#1
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It was only a suggestion and I'm not demanding help from anybody. Times are tough for everybody at the moment and every little helps so I don't think there is any harm in trying. Anyway we are a sports facility.
Yep, times are tough for designers too - so you should pay. They gotta eat like everyone else.
Sure, why don't you offer some free sports tuition, or let a few people use your facilities for free? It's only sports after all... (you could say that's more of a hobby really).
And if your only after a hobbyist - why not have a go yourself? Personally, I don't know any "hobbyist" graphic designers out there (plenty of amateur artists alright).
A college project?? Thought you said you wanted a hobbyist.
Anyone that works for free (excluding charity work) does themselves, and our industry a great disservice.
Even if you are on a tight budget - I'm sure you could afford to pay something to the student your looking for. After all, if you want a pro job (high quality) it could cost up to 70 euro an hour.
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Yep, times are tough for designers too - so you should pay. They gotta eat like everyone else.
Sure, why don't you offer some free sports tuition, or let a few people use your facilities for free? It's only sports after all... (you could say that's more of a hobby really).
And if your only after a hobbyist - why not have a go yourself? Personally, I don't know any "hobbyist" graphic designers out there (plenty of amateur artists alright).
A college project?? Thought you said you wanted a hobbyist.
Anyone that works for free (excluding charity work) does themselves, and our industry a great disservice.
Even if you are on a tight budget - I'm sure you could afford to pay something to the student your looking for. After all, if you want a pro job (high quality) it could cost up to 70 euro an hour.
Look you're not interested and that's fair enough. I did have a go myself and quite frankly im rubbish at it! College project or hobbyist or whatever. It might appeal to someone. I don't see how it would do a great disservice to your industry for someone to help someone else out but I'll leave it at that.0 -
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As Baggio... and Mood have said .. why not offer something in return.
Gym membership if ye are that ... for a few months will cost ye nothing as such given ye are just starting out ... and who knows it could develop a nice relationship with the graphic designer who ends up making your logo.
Times are hard ... we all have to eat .. (or work out)
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logo work is going to take anywhere from 20 minutes to 20 days ... the proof will be in the final result so to speak so why not take some pride in your own business and barter some services ...
I know in the past I needed some writing done for me and it worked out nicely for the other guy as well at the end of the day you leave with a lot better feeling than just a .. HA HA .. look at what I got for nothing .. win .. that poor sap what an idi... 0 -
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Figment, LoLth are the Mods of DA&D Ned is just voicing his opinion as are we.
Hah... Cheers for the info.
And of course Ned and friends are totally entitled to their opinion.
That's great, I can now keep on with the holy crusade, against those cheap aases that want something for nothing.
Ned while it may be dragging it off topic can I assume you're not a graphic designer / artist ?
The good old it'll look good on your CV is a common ploy
Yeah, if I had a quid for every time someone said that to me - I'd be retired by now.
Oldest trick in the book.
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Evidentally I don't value it highly, since I spend some of it making banners for sigs on boards
I guess I see charity work / sigs and banners for the community as worthwhile and rewarding in the thanks that are given. Your average "joe" not really having a budget to spend on their sig on here as there is no major return from it more of a fun thing.
A commercial logo I see as something taking away from your professional working time .. Also the end individual is profiting from your work
probably not explaining myself that well bunged up with a cold and maybe its just a case of tomay toes .. vrs ... tomaa toes ... 0 -
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So who's juvenile?
Hah... a straw man argument. Brilliant.I've no intention of reporting the post, only trying to highlight that people on boards really need to calm down and stop threadjacking in general. I mean it's easy, if you have an issue with this thread you can
a) Start a new one to discuss the issues raised within this one
b) PM the offending party and ask for clarification
c) Report the post
Or you can go to the adverts section, or here, and legitimately ask people to do a job, and in return get paid for it. What wrong with that? Seems to work for everyone else on the planet.
IMO people should not be allowed to post here for commercial work if they are not offering anything in return. Simple economics...I'm just sh*t sick of people on boards getting on a high moral horse and dragging threads off topic as a consequence.
The guy asked if someone wanted to do it for free, if you're not interested, then don't post. Or start another thread complaining about people looking for freebees - otherwise it's just threadspoiling.
How's this for being polite. 0 -
I guess I see charity work / sigs and banners for the community as worthwhile and rewarding in the thanks that are given. Your average "joe" not really having a budget to spend on their sig on here as there is no major return from it more of a fun thing.
A commercial logo I see as something taking away from your professional working time .. Also the end individual is profiting from your work
probably not explaining myself that well bunged up with a cold and maybe its just a case of tomay toes .. vrs ... tomaa toes ...
Well I suspect that anybody who does the OP this favour will have enough time free that it will NOT take away from their professional working time ! I couldn't see any busy graphic designers saying "I'm getting close to a deadline for a paying customer, I'd better hurry up and get this free one done!"
The individual is profiting, sure, but I'm okay with that. It stinks of begrudgery to be thinking along the lines of "just pay your way like everybody else", when it's quite possible that there is someone who is willing to do the work for free.
Besides, surely we should be helping small businesses as much as possible nowadays? Who knows, the OP's business could end up growing and hiring 2 or 3 people who are currently on the doleNumber one wrote: »I'm with Forbairt and baggio on this one. They are right to protect they're profession from being devalued.
Ah, the true motive emerges! If annoying little philanthropists are running around doing the work for free, then there'll be less money in the industryNumber one wrote: »Its not thread spoiling its an outcry against exploitation which surely should be discouraged.
If its designing a logo for a charity I couldn't promote it more. However, for a business in a successful industry seeking free design work, preying upon young designers trying to get their work out there is just brazen and manipulative.
Exploitation? Preying upon people? Get a grip would ya! He's asking. Nobody is being forced to do anything.0 -
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How's this for being polite.
What's polite got to do with anything.
I stated a sincere fact, that boards.ie's threads in general are being torn apart and brought down to the ground by people who feel they have to put their 2c in at any hands turn, and drag everything off topic. I stand by what I said, and I stand by my recommendations if someone has an issue with any particular thread on how to resolve it.
Stop taking it personally, not everything in life is an argument. 0 -
Can I just ask if I were to go onto the motors forum and ask
Hi Guys .. I need my car serviced for my business and I don't have a budget for it but I'll tell people you did it ... Is that ok ?
If I were to go onto the building forum and say ...
Hi Guys ... I need the toilet in my new office renovated and I don't have a budget for it but I'll tell people you did it ... Is that ok ?
... similarly accounting / PR / marketing / SEO / web design / education ...
Hi Guys ... I need XYZ done and I don't have a budget for it but I'll tell people you did it ... Is that ok ?
Graphic / Web design seems to have this feeling that anyone can do it and fair enough as a hobbist its easier to get into in some ways ... I just don't know how well it'd go down in those other forums ?
Now if I was going into the building forum and saying something like .. Hi Guys ... I'm looking at fixing up this poor old womans house ... she has no money ... would anyone like to give me a hand with it ... it'd be a completely different response.
anyways no end in sight for this thread no doubt 0 -
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Ah, the true motive emerges! If annoying little philanthropists are running around doing the work for free, then there'll be less money in the industry
Don't be so cynical. That was one of a number of reasons I outlined to make my point and it is a perfectly valid one. Artists and designers are hardly corporate moguls now are they?? If anything it is quite the opposite.
For all your speak of thread spoiling you seem perfectly happy to become heavily involved in the debate yourselves. In fact you seem to be dominating the posts. A touch of hypocrisy I see.0 -
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