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DCU SU elections candidates.

  • 27-03-2009 11:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭


    At 6pm this evening the Students’ Union Elections Returning Officer officially announced the candidates for next year’s elections. They are as follows:


    President:
    Cillian Byrne
    Alan Keegan
    Conor Mortimer


    Deputy President: Education and Welfare:
    Mark Egan
    Leeanne Heneghan
    John Murphy


    Vice President: Campaigns and Information:
    Melanie Farrell
    Andrew Harford
    Alan McHale
    Michael Mone


    Clubs and Socs Officer:
    William Coyne
    Equality Officer:
    Cara Murphy


    Humanities and Social Sciences Convenor:
    Derwin Brennan
    Dara McGann


    Science and Health Convenor
    John Devine
    Jenny Quigley


    Engineering and Computing Convenor:
    John Needham
    Padraig O’Connor


    Business:
    MD Sharif Hossain


    Hustings will take place at 1pm on Wednesday 1st April (no joke candidates we hope).



    DCUFM will host a Presidential Candidates Debate on Monday 6th April at 1.25 broadcast on http://www.dcufm.com
    DebateSoc will host the Presidential Candidates Debate that night at 6.30. Venue T.B.C.
    Polling will take place on Tuesday 7th and Wedneday 8th April with the count taking place that night. Good luck to all the candidates




    I start intra on the 6th and wont be around for much of this :( So what do you guys think? Any ideas at this stage of who you might vote for?


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    People say you get the governmenr you deserve but seriously, this is the best we have?


    Jesus Christ, Most of these people are fit to get me a sandwich and they are going to be the 'leaders'?


    Another year of no voting for me and I would presume 99% of the college.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Garseys


    well at least we have a proper election this year, compared to Humanities & Computing&Eng faculties being the only ones contested last year.

    Never heard of Cillian or Conor before, Will have to hear what they have to say on Monday.

    Going to be a tough election, Best of luck to all the candidates!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Cy_Revenant


    Tough voting this year. I don't know many of the candidates, and only a few of those I do know deserve a vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭gamblitis


    I know who i'm voting for but i won't be sharing any of my opinions. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Aye, its good to see more of the positions being contested this year. One Presidential candidate definitely stands out as someone who I reckon would do a great job, unfortunately I know only one of them anyway so it should be interesting to see how the manifestos looks when they're released.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭yellowcurl


    Woohoo! New government! :D

    Lets see what the new crowd propose to us...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 dcuhead


    Wow what a crazy choice of candidates. From Drama heads to Sports scholarship students, Mini-brother contestants and the ever faithful 'Chairperson of Style Society'. (The chair of Style has landed a place on the SU exec for the last 4 years.) Madness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Alanthroneus


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    People say you get the governmenr you deserve but seriously, this is the best we have?


    Jesus Christ, Most of these people are fit to get me a sandwich and they are going to be the 'leaders'?


    Another year of no voting for me and I would presume 99% of the college.

    Eh excuse me... Do you even know who any of these are? I have you know i have been complimented on my sandwhiches and i know for a fact you will love mine...

    Vote Alan SU President for excellent sanwhiches around campus.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    dcuhead wrote: »
    Wow what a crazy choice of candidates. From Drama heads to Sports scholarship students, Mini-brother contestants and the ever faithful 'Chairperson of Style Society'. (The chair of Style has landed a place on the SU exec for the last 4 years.) Madness.
    Crazy in what way? :confused:

    The Drama association is perfectly normal as far as I can see, most people on their committee have to be dedicated to the role and hard working to in order to make their society as successful as it is, they're the type of people I'd want on the SU.

    As for Conor Mortimer, now I remember who he is, I knew the name sounded familiar. Anyone have any idea what experience he has that would be beneficial to the role?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭public_enemy


    I think it's a pretty interesting list of candidates, with some really outstanding ones in there and lots of competition for important roles.

    I'm not sure what the problem with Style Soc people running for positions is, I don't know Melanie personally, but I've seen the dedication and work that some of the other Style Soc people are putting into the Fashion Show this year. If she put in even half that amount of effort into an SU role then she'd do a good job.

    Biggest surprise here has to be Padraig running for Engineering Convenor for the third year in a row.


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    gizmo wrote: »
    As for Conor Mortimer, now I remember who he is, I knew the name sounded familiar. Anyone have any idea what experience he has that would be beneficial to the role?
    Experience? For what? What exactly does the SU President achieve that needs experience? Helping organise a ball? Writing an article that most people won't read? Or just standing for a photograph which in all fairness, I think out of the list of candidates, Conor sounds the best for all of the above...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Getting involved Ru, showing an interest in extracurricular activities, having an idea of how the Student's Union runs, being able to manage/allocate finances for the rest of the year, being responsible for events or the running of a club/society that other people are interested in, maybe being a class rep and attending Union Council meetings etc...

    Not only would this prior experience help them once they get into the role but it also shows, at least in my opinion anyway, that they care about aspects of student life in DCU outside of their own, be it personal or course related. They're the kind of things I'd be looking for in a candidate anyway, rather than someone with none of the above experience who just decides to run because it would look good on their CV.

    Then again, if you're one of those cynical and/or clueless types that think the SU don't do anything then this will probably be lost on you. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭goodgodholmes


    I'm voting for both the Alans.

    Keegan is SPC chair so he's got a good deal of experience with student life politics and probably knows quite a lot about the ins and outs of the SU.

    McHale was vice-chair of Drama when they won BICS best national society, so he's obviously extremely dedicated and hard-working to make Drama that successful. He's a very visible character on campus as well.

    Not sure about Education and Welfare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭yellowcurl


    I think John Murphy is a good bet for Education and Welfare anyway! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    Mr. Mortimer will draw a sizeable vote from the GAA crowd, him being something of a supposed 'superstar' in the wonderful world of gaelic games. As much as I dislike flash, talentless footballers, I wouldnt mind seeing him in power, as the SU has been too dramasoc orientated over the past couple of years. A gaelic footballer would always spell DCU having some sort of meaningful social calendar next year, a properly running bar, etc. Bacially, we need a GAH-head to bring back the social life to this terribly drab college.

    Hopefully the whole dramasoc/stylesoc get a rest from the various positions next year. More or a campus and less of a campus next year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    Mr. Mortimer will draw a sizeable vote from the GAA crowd, him being something of a supposed 'superstar' in the wonderful world of gaelic games. As much as I dislike flash, talentless footballers, I wouldnt mind seeing him in power, as the SU has been too dramasoc orientated over the past couple of years. A gaelic footballer would always spell DCU having some sort of meaningful social calendar next year, a properly running bar, etc. Bacially, we need a GAH-head to bring back the social life to this terribly drab college.

    Hopefully the whole dramasoc/stylesoc get a rest from the various positions next year. More or a campus and less of a campus next year

    I will both laugh and cry if he gets elected. Can't wait to read his manifesto!:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 Hewhodares


    +1 for Conor Mortimer

    Big suprise to see him running but I think he would be an ideal candidate. He's not big SU or club's and soc's head which would imo be good for the SU. I know from experience in the SU its a bit of a clique which is probably one of the main reasons DCU's social scene is really not that good. Im not sure if he'd get enough votes though hed get alot of support from the GAA and other sports heads. I reckon he would be able to help with getting the whole bar mess cleaned up and help with the social scene around the college. He would bring something different to the SU which I think it currently needs. I dunno about the rest of the positions though i've never heard of alot of the candidates so i cant really judge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    Yup, stylesoc and dramasoc - as wonderful and colourful people they are, the SU isnt for them. Here's to hoping that the terms 'social-life' and 'DCU' can be spoken of in the same breath next year, after a two year absence


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    gizmo wrote: »
    having an idea of how the Student's Union runs
    From comments on this forum, isn't it obvious that at a number of students want that method of running changed?
    being able to manage/allocate finances for the rest of the year, being responsible for events or the running of a club/society that other people are interested in, maybe being a class rep and attending Union Council meetings etc...
    The bar hemmoraged money, the burlesque ball 08 lost a pile of money, the halloween ball 08 was seriously over crowded...Much to the disappointment of certain people, I do think that this year's SU did a better job but still could have been better...I don't think that there is a problem with the other candidates not being of the SU flock and in fact think it's a good thing...
    Not only would this prior experience help them once they get into the role but it also shows, at least in my opinion anyway, that they care about aspects of student life in DCU outside of their own, be it personal or course related.
    I think the fact that they put their names out there to run is evidence enough that they care...The fact that they are lesser known also shows that they have no bias towards any one club or society as seems to be hinted in previous posts...
    just decides to run because it would look good on their CV.
    Every candidate runs for their CV, it's something that comes with it...
    Then again, if you're one of those cynical and/or clueless types that think the SU don't do anything then this will probably be lost on you. :)
    By all means, dig in the claws but those are my opinions, cynical/clueless or not...I have only been here for two years and in that time have seen the nu bar go, €3 tuesdays go, the old bar go, the health service cutting back, waiting lists of 3 weeks to see a doctor on campus and a general feeling around campus that things are just getting worse and worse...

    I do realise that the position of SU President is a hard one but I think fresh blood might be the way to go...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    A gaelic footballer would always spell DCU having some sort of meaningful social calendar next year, a properly running bar, etc.
    Hewhodares wrote: »
    He's not big SU or club's and soc's head which would imo be good for the SU.
    As much as I'd love to see that happen I really do feel that without some of the experience I've mentioned any candidate would be facing a serious uphill struggle. That being said, I look forward to being proved wrong if he's elected. :)
    Hewhodares wrote: »
    I know from experience in the SU its a bit of a clique which is probably one of the main reasons DCU's social scene is really not that good.
    The only reason it could be regarded as a clique is that it attracts a certain group of people who are constantly in and around that area and are involved in similar activities. Again, I wouldn't necessarily regard this as a negative thing and as we've seen in previous years those elected usually come from a variety of areas in C&S and SU activities.

    Apologies if you felt that comment was directed at you Ru as it wasn't, it was aimed more at the people who have shown, in previous posts, complete and utter disdain for the SU and their activities. These outbursts are, in the vast majority of cases, made with without rhyme nor reason. As for your other comments, I'd be interested to hear how people think the running of the SU can be changed. That is why I'm waiting to see the manifesto's before I make up my mind on which candidate I'll be rooting for. That being said, it should be pointed out that the SU had nothing to do with the running of the bar hence they can't be blamed for the financial problems. I also don't think any President, as far as I can remember, has ever shown favour towards any Club or Society. I am, of course, open to correction on that one. :)

    As for the CV comment, can't say I agree with you there, I know several people, myself included, who ran not because of their CV but because they felt they'd be good in the role and could learn a lot for themselves. In fact I think that applies to most C&S activities but again, that's a personal opinion and one that I'm sure others will disagree with.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Alanthroneus


    Yup, stylesoc and dramasoc - as wonderful and colourful people they are, the SU isnt for them. Here's to hoping that the terms 'social-life' and 'DCU' can be spoken of in the same breath next year, after a two year absence

    That is a wild statement there,but anyway we are all entitled to our opinions.

    I am a envolved with drama however i think i am the right person for the job. I am not doing this to pad my CV, i am doing it because there is a lot of things that need to change in DCU. As for the comment on a gaa head being able to change the bar, that is highly inaccurate. Currently the bar is in a real real mess and it will take more than ideas to make it work. This year if you don't know i am chair of the societies and publications committee. One of the roles the chair plays is sitting on the HMC ( Hub Mangagement Committe) which is the cmtte that oversees the running of the bar. This year i have had a prime position to see that failings of trispace while they run the bar but being the chair of the SPC and not the SU president ( who also sits on the committee) means that i had to take a back seat in it and let the SU do what they needed to do. While i think the SU has done alot to turn around the bar ( which has struggles to turnover €100,000 this year) i think some new blood in the position is needed. The SU needs someone who knows what is going on. If someone who doesnt know how to deal with DCU and go all guns blazing against them you get what happened two years ago with the Rip off DCU campaign..... Things like that lead you nowhere...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭public_enemy


    Yup, stylesoc and dramasoc - as wonderful and colourful people they are, the SU isnt for them.

    What a retarded thing to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭DemocAnarchis


    People heavily involved in society life in running for SU shocker. The notion that only "dramaheads" or style soc run for positions is completely inaccurate, and demonstrates a lot of people are completely unaware of the level of involvement of the SU exec in society life prior to running. Off hand, I know that this years exec susan was involved in book soc and music soc, niall in fianna fail and debate soc, and dave in style. Probably many more societies i'm not aware of/can't recall.

    The idea that you'd vote for someone solely on the basis that they had no committee experience whatsoever and hence would somehow be more capable is concerning. I don't want a president who needs to be spoonfed and hand held when they start. I want someone who already has the experience and ability who can get cracking.

    Leif, Your statement on a gaa head being more craic translating somehow into being able to revive the bar and bring back the social life to dcu made me wonder if you were trolling, but it appears you are quite serious. Firstly, you display a shocking amount of ignorance and naivity about the bar situation, and the powers of the president to do anything about it. The president is only one member of the HMC. If it was a union run bar, i'm sure it would be different but DCU have left our hands tied. And as to your comment about a social life, for you social life is obviously synonymous with getting pissed. DCU has probably the most active club and society life of any college in the country. There are multiple events taking place every night of the week, which are well publicised. If you choose to not get involved, you can't lay that blame at the SU's feet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭dramabob


    Yup, stylesoc and dramasoc - as wonderful and colourful people they are, the SU isnt for them. Here's to hoping that the terms 'social-life' and 'DCU' can be spoken of in the same breath next year, after a two year absence

    Wow.

    I can't help but wonder if you're trolling.

    If the "Social Life" you're talking about is a reference to The Old Bar and the ongoing issues there, the entire situation can be summed up in two sentences, oft-quoted by students all over DCU:

    1): "Nobody goes to The Old Bar because it's sh*t."

    and

    2): "The Old Bar is sh*t because nobody goes there."

    'nuff said.


    As for your statement about Style Soc and Drama, and the SU not being "for them," I have to wonder where you've been for the past few years. Here's a few select examples:

    2004/05 SU Exec:

    President: Paul May, former webmaster & committee member, DCU Drama


    2005/06 SU Exec:

    Vice President: Yvonne Tuohy, former treasurer & committe member, DCU Drama
    Science & Health Convenor: Dave Grimes, Vice Chair of DCU Drama
    Women's Officer: Laura Whitmore, founder member & committe member, Style Soc


    2006/07 SU Exec:

    VP for Campaigns & Information: Mikey Robinson, founder member & former Chair of Style Soc
    Science & Health Convenor: John Cannon, secretary, DCU Drama


    2007/08 SU Exec:

    DP for Education & Welfare:
    Hazel Hayes, former chair, Style Soc
    VP for Campaigns & Information: Gary Boylan, former sponsorship officer, DCU Drama, PRO, DCU Drama & PRO, Style Soc
    Clubs & Socs Officer: Joey Kavanagh, former treasurer & ELO, DCU Drama
    Science & Health Convenor: Stephen Grimes, former FYR & chair, DCU Drama
    Post Grad Chair: Roibeard O Mhurcu, former FYR & chair, DCU Drama


    2008/09 SU Exec:

    VP for Campaigns & Information: Dave McGovern, former chair, Style Soc


    That's just the members of recent SU Execs who were committee members of either DCU Drama or Style Soc - it doesn't include active members of either society, or committee members of other clubs or societies, the SCC or the SPC.

    I find your argument that the "SU isn't for them" somewhat flawed.


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    dramabob wrote: »
    I find your argument that the "SU isn't for them" somewhat flawed.
    I'm gonna stay on the fence here regarding style/drama soc involvement but I will just clear up what I think leif is trying to say which is that he is unhappy with the running of the SU in previous years and suggested that it might have been the involvement of people from drama/style soc...It may have been better if you didnt list that most people were from those societies...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    dramabob wrote: »
    Wow.

    I can't help but wonder if you're trolling.

    If the "Social Life" you're talking about is a reference to The Old Bar and the ongoing issues there, the entire situation can be summed up in two sentences, oft-quoted by students all over DCU:

    1): "Nobody goes to The Old Bar because it's sh*t."

    and

    2): "The Old Bar is sh*t because nobody goes there."

    'nuff said.


    As for your statement about Style Soc and Drama, and the SU not being "for them," I have to wonder where you've been for the past few years. Here's a few select examples:

    2004/05 SU Exec:

    President: Paul May, former webmaster & committee member, DCU Drama


    2005/06 SU Exec:

    Vice President: Yvonne Tuohy, former treasurer & committe member, DCU Drama
    Science & Health Convenor: Dave Grimes, Vice Chair of DCU Drama
    Women's Officer: Laura Whitmore, founder member & committe member, Style Soc


    2006/07 SU Exec:

    VP for Campaigns & Information: Mikey Robinson, founder member & former Chair of Style Soc
    Science & Health Convenor: John Cannon, secretary, DCU Drama


    2007/08 SU Exec:

    DP for Education & Welfare:
    Hazel Hayes, former chair, Style Soc
    VP for Campaigns & Information: Gary Boylan, former sponsorship officer, DCU Drama, PRO, DCU Drama & PRO, Style Soc
    Clubs & Socs Officer: Joey Kavanagh, former treasurer & ELO, DCU Drama
    Science & Health Convenor: Stephen Grimes, former FYR & chair, DCU Drama
    Post Grad Chair: Roibeard O Mhurcu, former FYR & chair, DCU Drama


    2008/09 SU Exec:

    VP for Campaigns & Information: Dave McGovern, former chair, Style Soc


    That's just the members of recent SU Execs who were committee members of either DCU Drama or Style Soc - it doesn't include active members of either society, or committee members of other clubs or societies, the SCC or the SPC.

    I find your argument that the "SU isn't for them" somewhat flawed.

    And each year they've done a progessively worse job at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭XPS


    So can we have a list of candidate websites please?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Alanthroneus




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Alanthroneus


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    And each year they've done a progessively worse job at it.

    How so?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭XPS



    Thanks for that - any other candidates about. This is the only one I remembered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭irish_boy90



    nice site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    I've a question for any of the nominees going up for election for next year if they're reading this:

    Everyone I've been talking to regarding the bar has said that while Super Tuesday has all been well and good, do this TriSpace company not actually realise that big name bands aren't what people look for in a good bar? First and foremost on top of most peoples list would be drink promotions, something which we haven't seen for years.

    Considering the economic climate and all that, if you gave people a choice between the Coronas live or some offer like 3 on all pints (and not just that shíte Amstel), they'd go for the drinks offer in a heartbeat. I know it's the job of the SU to bring in the bands, but surely the money they spend on bands would be of far better use if they help subsidise the cost of drink promotions with Trispace instead.

    So, my question is will this ever be considered by next years SU, and how much effort will they be putting in to ensure Trispace understands what is really needed to be done to get the absolute best of the Old Bar again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭DemocAnarchis


    Daysha wrote: »
    I've a question for any of the nominees going up for election for next year if they're reading this:

    Everyone I've been talking to regarding the bar has said that while Super Tuesday has all been well and good, do this TriSpace company not actually realise that big name bands aren't what people look for in a good bar? First and foremost on top of most peoples list would be drink promotions, something which we haven't seen for years.

    Considering the economic climate and all that, if you gave people a choice between the Coronas live or some offer like 3 on all pints (and not just that shíte Amstel), they'd go for the drinks offer in a heartbeat. I know it's the job of the SU to bring in the bands, but surely the money they spend on bands would be of far better use if they help subsidise the cost of drink promotions with Trispace instead.

    So, my question is will this ever be considered by next years SU, and how much effort will they be putting in to ensure Trispace understands what is really needed to be done to get the absolute best of the Old Bar again?

    Not a candidate, but as regards to ensuring Trispace do what needs to be done, it really needs to be stressed how little power the union have to do anything about how the bar is run. The HMC runs the hub, and the SU president is one of only 8 members on it http://www.dcu.ie/info/hub.shtml. A pretty big problem is that Trispace don't really have much of an incentive to turn a profit, as any profit made by the bar goes back into the Hub, not to DCU, and Trispace are a DCU subsidiary, and for all intents and purposes == DCU. Coupled with the fact that any external companies have run a mile after seeing the accounts, the situation isn't that rosy. So while I do agree that the bar situation is sh1t, for the purposes of these elections it shouldn't be a major selling point for any one candidate - If anyone is promising they are going to bring the bar back to its former glory 4/5 nights a week with drink promotions etc etc, they are either naive, misinformed or just full of sh1t.


    *Disclaimer: some of the details are a bit sketchy, but what I have said is broadly accurate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Cy_Revenant


    I'm glad I brought popcorn to this election, it looks like it'll be fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Elections will happen, bad people will get elected and the College will continue to implement their plans on the Bar, the Hub and Fees no matter what the SU says.

    You think when they make their decision on what to do with their Fees they are going to care what the SU president has to say?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    Not a candidate, but as regards to ensuring Trispace do what needs to be done, it really needs to be stressed how little power the union have to do anything about how the bar is run. The HMC runs the hub, and the SU president is one of only 8 members on it http://www.dcu.ie/info/hub.shtml. A pretty big problem is that Trispace don't really have much of an incentive to turn a profit, as any profit made by the bar goes back into the Hub, not to DCU, and Trispace are a DCU subsidiary, and for all intents and purposes == DCU. Coupled with the fact that any external companies have run a mile after seeing the accounts, the situation isn't that rosy. So while I do agree that the bar situation is sh1t, for the purposes of these elections it shouldn't be a major selling point for any one candidate - If anyone is promising they are going to bring the bar back to its former glory 4/5 nights a week with drink promotions etc etc, they are either naive, misinformed or just full of sh1t.


    *Disclaimer: some of the details are a bit sketchy, but what I have said is broadly accurate

    So basically we're left with a bar run by a company that doesn't care if it makes a profit, that doesn't care of the students opinions on how it should be run and that hasn't a hope in hell in selling to anyone else in the distant future.

    Lovely :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Im not voting for the opposition out of spite, im voting for them to stop him getting in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    *sigh* Same shit, different year. Right, the thread has been cleaned up to remove personal attacks and some pointless spammy posts. If your post was edited it was to remove quoted text that was deleted. Apologies for this but, as DemocAnarchis said, some people are using this thread as a means to share views and inform themselves about the candidates in a useful way, and I intend to keep it that way.

    While I'd love to comment on some of the more "humorous" posts, in the interest of keeping the thread on track I'll refrain, instead can we have more posts like Daysha's please?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 haus


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    Im not voting for the opposition out of spite, im voting for them to stop him getting in.

    So your policy is anyone but Alan? Without even taking a look at his policies or plans if he wins?
    It's because of people like you that "bad people" (as you said) with bad policies get into office.

    I hope there's not many more like you, otherwise we really are all ****ed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    haus wrote: »
    So your policy is anyone but Alan? Without even taking a look at his policies or plans if he wins?
    It's because of people like you that "bad people" (as you said) with bad policies get into office.

    I hope there's not many more like you, otherwise we really are all ****ed


    You just signed up and this is your first post?


    Oh, I wonder who you are...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭lil_cain


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    You just signed up and this is your first post?


    Oh, I wonder who you are...

    Maybe, just maybe, someone interested in the current debate? Or is there some post quota that you have to reach before you're allowed comment on anything contentious?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 haus


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    You just signed up and this is your first post?


    Oh, I wonder who you are...

    Yes, I'm a DCU student, first year CA if you must know and yes I did just sign up. I generally stay away from boards, but I was reading through the thread and had to post to point out how stupid your method of deciding who the next SU president is going to be.
    Perhaps i should have waited til I had a vast amount of posts, like yourself, to enter this debate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    A quick note to all posters, if you feel someone is being a troll or if you've been flamed do not respond in kind. The mods will take care of this and you run the risk of being warned yourself otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭D3UC3 J3


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    Elections will happen, bad people will get elected and the College will continue to implement their plans on the Bar, the Hub and Fees no matter what the SU says.

    You think when they make their decision on what to do with their Fees they are going to care what the SU president has to say?

    Who would be a good person in your view Fuhrer? Would you run???
    ...no matter what the SU says.
    So should we give up in that case? "Cant win - dont try"
    ...care what the SU president has to say?
    Of course they will, the SU president is representitive of the Student population.

    I would concede that Students dont have as much say as they should have though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭corkkaz


    I have to admit, I would be one of those people who say what in the hell do the student union do. This is my 4th year and I must say the best student union was in my 2nd year I think with Charlene and Mickey and the other lad. There was atmosphere around campus and sumthing to look forward to (the balls) which is seriously lacking over the past two years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 TheDeparted


    corkkaz wrote: »
    I have to admit, I would be one of those people who say what in the hell do the student union do. This is my 4th year and I must say the best student union was in my 2nd year I think with Charlene and Mickey and the other lad. There was atmosphere around campus and sumthing to look forward to (the balls) which is seriously lacking over the past two years.

    I'd echo this.

    Also, I'm voting for Mortimer, just to annoy all the losers. Ah, it'll be funny when he wins. Good to have an outsider in the SU you for a change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭corkkaz


    everyone ive talked to are voting for the mort. I havent heard what anyone is standing for, most will probably put the bar in their " elect me and il do promises" but i doubt any of them will succeed if the present ones couldnt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    corkkaz wrote: »
    I have to admit, I would be one of those people who say what in the hell do the student union do.
    This is unfortunately a problem which still exists and without some decent info out there it's not going to change any time soon. What I will say is outside all of the stuff the general student body sees, the SU does a lot of important work for both individual students and classes as a whole. The former is something you'll probably never hear of as it's usually personal issues but the latter is far more evident. For instance, we had major trouble with one of our classes in final year and if it hadn't been for the effort put in by Eoin Byrne at the time then a lot of us would have been left standing with far inferior degrees. That's just one example of course but if you ask around you'll be guaranteed to find similar stories.
    Also, I'm voting for Mortimer, just to annoy all the losers. Ah, it'll be funny when he wins. Good to have an outsider in the SU you for a change.
    If you think he's the best person for the job then fair enough but I'm curious, who are these losers you speak of? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭giveliberty


    Hi Folks

    Just to make a correction to the first post.

    The DCUfm Presidential Debate will be aired on Monday 6th April at 3.15pm on the News Crew Show NOT at 1.25pm.

    This will be an indepth discussion based on candidates manifestos, student issues and the Students' Union.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭tnkrbell


    ahh elections!forgot all about them cause i'm on my internship

    Any chance we could get some more links up to candidate websites Have only seen two and out of those two I'll be voting for them (that's if my off duty gives me the day off!)
    Great to see competition for the positions. Wonder will candidates be elected on manifestos or on their popularity???

    Also to what TheDeparted said about outsiders being voted in. Do you really think that will help?? IMO people who are involved in the SU and C&S know the day to day runnings of the SU and are aware of the problems going on etc That way they have something to base their manifestos on and something to work with. Outsiders well... you decide


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