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DCU SU elections candidates.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭steo87


    It just seems to me that the only reason the majority of people run for these positions is to boost their CVs, and don't really have the students' concerns at heart.

    Just my opinion, so keep your "how bloody well dare you" crap to yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭lil_cain


    steo87 wrote: »
    It just seems to me that the only reason the majority of people run for these positions is to boost their CVs, and don't really have the students' concerns at heart.

    Just my opinion, so keep your "how bloody well dare you" crap to yourself.

    I don't think this is true of the majority of candidates. Some perhaps, but certainly all those running I know personally are doing it because they seem to genuinely want to change things. I think anyone who spent several years of their life involved in the S.U./Clubs and Socs/hanging round the college would have a list of things that they'd like to change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭AlanSparrowhawk


    I don't really understand this whole "they're only doing it to put it on their CV" lark. What the **** does that mean? Some bloke is going to take a job doing some ****e in the students union for a year so he can tell an a potential employer -

    no I don't have a any relevant work experience but I did answer a lot of emails from students last year
    no I don't have a relevant qualification in this area but i have a proven track record of getting elected in students union.

    you'd have to look inside every candidate to really understand their motives for doing this or indeed, anything in the world but random CV building i wouldn't think to be pretty high up on the list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Garseys


    my take on the hustings yesterday

    Science and Health Convenor:

    John Devine: Very nervous speaker I thought, mentioned how he wanted more computers in the science building and more learning workshops for students. didnt mention much else
    Jenny Quigley: Confident speaker, Seemed to know the situation that was going on in the Science Faculty, wantes to redo the science and health ball with the target audience being the nursing students.

    VP Campaigns and Informations:

    Melanie Farrell: Liked Melanies Speech, I thought she did a good thing by not mentioning the bar(until she was asked about it). Seems someone who would very easily settle into the job of VP.
    Andrew Harford: Most Confident of the lot, had some great ideas on how the SU and information should get out. plans to redo life.dcu.ie completely.
    Was very impressed by his speech in general(after being slightly doubtful beforehand)
    Alan McHale: Slightly disappointed by his speech, I didnt get one clear message about what he was going to do. He was nervous aswell so that could have put him off.

    DP Education and Welfare:
    Mark Egan: Gave a good speech, I really can't remember what his main points were.
    Leeanne Heneghan: Very Confident Speaker, Mentioned about focusing on improving student health awareness and general wellbeing. Also said that her course(Nursing) would help alot if dealing with personal Cases.
    John Murphy: Hurt my ears quite a lot:p(No Offense John!)Had some very good points, Making people aware of all the student support services there.

    President:
    Cillian: Gave a very good speech, Approached the Bar Issue. He also mentioned having an off-license on campus again. Opposed to fees aswell.

    Alan:Best speech of the bunch. Wants Trispace out of the bar or for them to meet the Union halfway and put some work in. Raised the issue of the hub opening on weekends and making the campus more energy efficient. Also wants recycling bins outside spar.

    Conor: Eh, not as bad as I expected him to be, Doesnt seem to know about the current situation(the bar) aswell as the other two candidates. Wants to bring in someone externally. Didn't offer a lot in the way of promises or such. didnt know what USI is.(or how much the membership to it is) he thought it would be a good idea to get other colleges opinions on how were running stuff. I'd be worried if he got elected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Alanthroneus


    steo87 wrote: »
    It just seems to me that the only reason the majority of people run for these positions is to boost their CVs, and don't really have the students' concerns at heart.

    Just my opinion, so keep your "how bloody well dare you" crap to yourself.


    But, you don't have any eyebrows...... :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭robby^5


    Was running a GamesSoc event so missed hustings :(

    But from what I've been told and heard it went pretty much as expected. However I'm kind of terrified the GAA-heads will just vote en masse for Conor Mortimer regardless of how little he knows about...well... anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 Jasirl


    I'd like to point out that nobody from the committee that is managing the Presidential debate has posted on this topic, so therefore all advertisments for the event on this threat previously have been referrals.

    The event is taking place on the 6th of April. In the Venue. Arrive at 6.30 and will begin at 7 Sharp. As said before, those of you who wish to pose questions to the candidates, should email those questions to presidentquestions@gmail.com. Badgering or heckling ANY candidates will not be tolerated, this is a debate. If you wish to be heard, please email us your questions.

    John - DCU Debate Secretary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Hi Folks

    Just to make a correction to the first post.

    The DCUfm Presidential Debate will be aired on Monday 6th April at 3.15pm on the News Crew Show NOT at 1.25pm.

    This will be an indepth discussion based on candidates manifestos, student issues and the Students' Union.
    So does that mean it will be streamed as usual on dcufm.com?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭giveliberty


    gizmo wrote: »
    So does that mean it will be streamed as usual on dcufm.com?

    That would be a yes. It will be aired through the DCUfm website, www.dcufm.com at 3.15 (ish) at the latest - might be a good idea to tune in earlier.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Slurmsy


    robby^5 wrote: »
    However I'm kind of terrified the GAA-heads will just vote en masse for Conor Mortimer regardless of how little he knows about...well... anything.

    Well that's politics, people get the government they deserve. If Mortimer gets in purely on the GAA vote then the rest of the student body only have themselves to blame.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 [DCU] Mark


    Hello Everyone, Just thought I would post up a bit about myself and some issues I will be taking on. Sadly don't have a website so this will have to do.

    I have been a student in DCU 3 years and am studying Computer Applications. Have been involved in many club and society committees from my first year in DCU, and this year went one better and set up a new soc(Paintball). I have a lot of drive to move form Clubs and Soc's into the Education and Welfare position and make a positive impact.

    Will try to keep this as short as I can:

    *Fight Fees with the other SU members, also be realistic that the new union may be too late to change this. If so have plans in place
    to pass all the information on too all students. I want to make sure all students know what grants and assistence they are eligble for.
    Sadly we may only know what exactly we are up against after the election. The goverments new budget on Tuesday will help shape this issue.

    *More Resources around campus, specifically the library. There are not enough computers around campus, although during semesters
    this is not an issue around exam times it can be hard to find a free terminal. Sitting on the Library committee I will push for more computers. Also from talking to some students and class reps there are not enough books for some courses, In these bad economic times we can't afford to buy the books some courses need so more copies need to be stocked in the Library.

    *Stress is a big issue for some students, exams and constant assignments can be a drain. I will make sure students aren't heavly over worked to the point they have no time free to relax. This will be done through constant comunication with class reps and staff members in each faculty to ensure all projects aren't dumped on the class in the last two weeks of the semester.

    *I will be an active participant in the Niteline service and suicide prevention schemes and help them grow as best I can. I will also be passionate in continuing and inproving the themed weeks that deal with students health(Please Talk, Shag week). I will work closely with the campaigns and Information officer in running and promoting these events, also I will try to get more clubs and societies involved in these weeks to hopefully bring some life back onto campus.

    *Representation, the Deputy President sits on more boards/committees than any other sabatical position and I will represent the students as best I can and make sure we are not being overlooked or underestimated in any area. Example of some committees I will have a say in: Education committee, Govering Authority, University marks and standards board and many more.

    Thanks for reading this far, If Elected I promise to work as hard as I can and I won't let you guys down. Few other issues I have and will try to get a website online over the weekend.

    Thanks again,
    Mark Egan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭sunnyjim


    Slurmsy wrote: »
    Well that's politics, people get the government they deserve. If Mortimer gets in purely on the GAA vote then the rest of the student body only have themselves to blame.

    Mortimer probably has more pull in DCU than any of the rest of the candidates. Who cares if he's not up to scratch on the HMC, politics of the SU, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭irish_boy90


    sunnyjim wrote: »
    Mortimer probably has more pull in DCU than any of the rest of the candidates. Who cares if he's not up to scratch on the HMC, politics of the SU, etc.
    sadly the first sentence may be true (others seems to know him, I sure as hell haven't)

    if he does get elected I'd hope hed take note of what the other two lads planned on doing and go do it for them/us


  • Posts: 420 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    sadly the first sentence may be true (others seems to know him, I sure as hell haven't)

    if he does get elected I'd hope hed take note of what the other two lads planned on doing and go do it for them/us
    Sort of worried about his other commitments...would the position get in the way of these?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭steo87


    But, you don't have any eyebrows...... :D

    Oh touché Keegan, touché!

    /*sniff* oh eyebrows, please come back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    sunnyjim wrote: »
    Mortimer probably has more pull in DCU than any of the rest of the candidates. Who cares if he's not up to scratch on the HMC, politics of the SU, etc.
    Whats the point in having all that pull when he has no idea what to do with it? Not knowing what the USI is, for instance, rings quite a few alarm bells in my opinion, nevermind the fact he didn't realise why he was the last person to speak at the hustings. :(

    As for Cillian's manifesto, while he has some of the usual good points I was hoping to see something different this year. Instead all we're left with is the usual stuff about the bar (but without any definite plan), residences and fees. Hopefully we'll see more out of him as the campaign continues however.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭sunnyjim


    nevermind the fact he didn't realise why he was the last person to speak at the hustings. :(

    I'm sorry to see that his lack of intimate knowledge on how to run hustings upsets you.

    Does it matter that he wasn't too up to speed on the USI? There's plenty of work to get done for causes internal to DCU, without worrying over other colleges and useless blanket organisations.

    What's the point in having all these great ideas, without having any manner to go about implementing them? If he can listen to people and make what they want happen (as opposed to their own silly ideas) then he'll be democracy personified.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 [DCU] Mark




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    sunnyjim wrote: »
    I'm sorry to see that his lack of intimate knowledge on how to run hustings upsets you.

    Does it matter that he wasn't too up to speed on the USI? There's plenty of work to get done for causes internal to DCU, without worrying over other colleges and useless blanket organisations.

    What's the point in having all these great ideas, without having any manner to go about implementing them? If he can listen to people and make what they want happen (as opposed to their own silly ideas) then he'll be democracy personified.
    It doesn't upset me in the slightest, it merely worries me as it shows a complete lack of common sense from someone who is going to have quite an important role in the college for many students.

    There is a difference between being up to speed on the USI and knowing what it is. To then get up on the stage and do anything other than give a straight 'No' answer on the idea of rejoining them is an additional worry.

    Also, the more I think about it the more I wonder about this "pull" factor. What is he going to do, refuse to play GAA for the college if they don't give him his way?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Diarmsquid


    If Mortimer is elected, will it make him eligible to play for DCU again next year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Slurmsy


    sunnyjim wrote: »
    Mortimer probably has . Who cares if he's not up to scratch on the HMC, politics of the SU, etc.

    Every DCU student should care. Wtf is the point in having someone with "more pull in DCU than any of the rest of the candidates" who doesn't seem to have a grasp on even the most basic aspects of student politics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Alanthroneus


    Diarmsquid wrote: »
    If Mortimer is elected, will it make him eligible to play for DCU again next year?


    as far as i know yes .....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Slurmsy


    gizmo wrote: »
    Also, the more I think about it the more I wonder about this "pull" factor. What is he going to do, refuse to play GAA for the college if they don't give him his way?

    I doubt anyone would be that petty. Talk about pulling out your eye to spite your face!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Landa2


    Diarmsquid wrote: »
    If Mortimer is elected, will it make him eligible to play for DCU again next year?

    He will be a member of class SU1 so he will be the perfect sigerson player, no exam or study commitments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭:|


    Diarmsquid wrote: »
    If Mortimer is elected, will it make him eligible to play for DCU again next year?

    my thoughts exactly....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 Korvuss


    hopefully things will work out for the best of the college, im suprised someone running for SU president hasnt done much homework on the subject


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 boomboom


    To be honest, if Mortimer was elected it would be a disaster for DCU students. Someone who doesn't know what the USI is is in no position to become a president of university student union.

    Keegan for Pres! Experience in how the SU is run is (I feel) vital is this role which makes Keegan the only choice. I get the impression that Keegan is the only pres candidate who TRULY cares about the well being of the college and its students. It is not just a CV exercise for him. (While I feel that Byrne cares, he seems too laid back and not enough of a leader figure to tackle the role)

    Keegan is also a realist and recognises that Trispace is a cancer which is slowly rotting the social aspect of DCU. Sorry for the strong metaphor but I think it captures the essence of what I'm trying to say quite well!!

    The idea of "fresh blood" coming in "revitalizing" the SU (what I have heard said about Mortimer) does not make sense in the real world and does not wash with me.

    DCU students can be a despondent and apathetic lot, but I hope that the many sane students who genuinely care about DCU will not lose their heads and instead will care enough about the college to make a decent decision on polling day, instead of voting someone in for the laugh. It'll only be funny for about two minutes....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭goodgodholmes


    Heneghan spoke very well at the Hustings, and out of all the Deputy candidates, I believe she has the least CV-building motives. She is a Nursing student, and at the end of the day a degree in Nursing is going to get you a job as a nurse whether you were on the S.U. or not.

    She seems to have great ideas as well about S.U. visibility to faculties located away from the Hub, and difficulty with workload conflicting with student life for those in the Science & Health and Engineering & Computing faculties.

    This is coming from a Humanities student.

    She has my vote for Deputy Pres.

    McHale has my vote for Vice, he's a very approachable person and would be a great go-to for students. He seemed nervous at the Hustings, but having spoken to him about the position I think he's the man for the job. He's the most recognisable face anyway which shows real interest and involvement, and seems to really want the best for DCU. Says he's done a good deal of committee work as well, and produced a few Drama shows, so he's got a bit of organisational experience. I think he'd be a very friendly face for first year students as well.

    Keegan is the only way forward for Pres. Cillian Byrne seemed like a decent chap, he'd be going in full of enthusiasm, and seems well enough informed. But Keegan knows his stuff and it seems like he could really delve in and pick up right from where McClave left off with the minimal amount of hand-holding.



    I've been pretty sure of Keegan & McHale all along, but was flitting between Heneghan and Murphy after Hustings, but having read LeeAnne's manifesto, she has earned my vote.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    Diarmsquid wrote: »
    If Mortimer is elected, will it make him eligible to play for DCU again next year?

    That statement is 100% on the money.

    Personally I couldn't care less who is elected but I know that a strong person is needed next year to help avoid the reintroduction of fees.

    DCU seem to be more bothered about how their football team does rather than the welfare of most students anyway.

    Also Conor seems like the two ends of a c-word so with a bit of luck he wont get in and that would be nice, although its in the best interests of the powers that be that he stays in the college so he can do what he does best aka kick a ball so I wouldnt hold my breath.


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