cigarettes rise again!!!!!! Or maybe not!!!!!!

mc01a

the price of cigarettes are rising again by€2, planned for next week,

for a pack of cigarettes it will now cost €10.10.

i smoke myself and i think this is f*ckin crazy. €10 for a pack of smokes, F*CK That


(question time)
how many do you smoke a day??
and will this price now make you reduce or quit??
What do you think of this price rase now??

aidan_walsh

Quit then.

6th

You have my sympathies.

mc01a

aidan_walsh wrote: »

Quit then.

it's a lot easier said than done,

My name is URL

I've been buying mine over the border ever since this increase was announced. I'll be fcuked if I'm gonna pay a tenner when I can get them for 6 quid just up the road. I don't care what damage it'll do to the economy

Jip

I have the same problem myself, I love exotic holidays and fast cars and big houses.
Unfortunately I've now been priced out of these markets.
I came to a fairly way outfield solution though, I just don't partake in those expensive habits anymore. That is until someone forces me to, are you being forced ?

Anyone, it's only proposed, they're not actually rising yet nor has the exact amount been deiced upon if they do go up at all.

SEPT 23 1989

just buy them on the black market and they will get no revenue from you

lukasbasic

1. book ryanair.com to Poland, Hungary or any other east eu contry (any cheap fare you get 30eu all incl)
2. get 100 packages of your favourite brand + weekend hotel, spa, girls, rent a car get dental work
3. come back - you still save 50% and have cigarettes for 6 months

el_tiddlero

so OP, i just wanted to ask, how can you possibly know what's yet to happen??
AFAIK, that anti-smoking group ASH asked for a €2 increase - it makes good copy so it got media coverage about 2 weeks ago. Since then, there's been nothing, and nothing is expected until the budget on April 7th...
care to enlighten us as to where your sudden fit of impending price rise panic came from??

javaboy

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

just buy them on the black market and they will get no revenue from you

Advocating criminality is not allowed.

AnonoBoy

mc01a wrote: »

it's a lot easier said than done,

Well look at this as a really big helpful push in the right direction then.

Sorry smokers but you'll never get sympathy outta me.

Sincerely,

Mr. Smug Non-Smoker AnonoBoy.

kraggy

lukasbasic wrote: »

1. book ryanair.com to Poland, Hungary or any other east eu contry (any cheap fare you get 30eu all incl)
2. get 100 packages of your favourite brand + weekend hotel, spa, girls, rent a car get dental work
3. come back - you still save 50% and have cigarettes for 6 months

Except you're not allowed bo bring back 100 packages.

Homer

kraggy wrote: »

Except you're not allowed bo bring back 100 packages.

You shouldn't be allowed on the internet if you can't spell either but hey :rolleyes:

Gran Hermano

€2 increase on a pack will mean the Irish tax man will get LESS money from me. I'll just book a cheap daily return fare to Spain or another
EU country where I can cheaply and legally stock up for a couple of months.

Relevant

kraggy wrote: »

Except you're not allowed bo bring back 100 packages.

Within the EU you are

Heisenberg.

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Tech3

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

just buy them on the black market and they will get no revenue from you

that in turn will lead to another deficit to the government so they will increase futher again to plug the hole in their finances. Itll be 12 euro next year if people take your attitude towards buying cigs.

Kinetic^

The drink will get hit as well. It's just easier to tax junkies

kraggy

Homer wrote: »

You shouldn't be allowed on the internet if you can't spell either but hey :rolleyes:

What age are you?

Never made a typo?

Get over yourself and don't bother posting unless you have something to contribute.

CiaranC

Anyone have any good sites to buy cigarettes?

Ffs, its €5 for a pack in France.

Relevant

Gran Hermano wrote: »

€2 increase on a pack will mean the Irish tax man will get LESS money from me. I'll just book a cheap daily return fare to Spain or another
EU country where I can cheaply and legally stock up for a couple of months.

I'm sure you will also fly over there to get healthcare when you develop the health issues associated with smoking yes?

Spastafarian

tech2 wrote: »

that in turn will lead to another deficit to the government so they will increase futher again to plug the hole in their finances. Itll be 12 euro next year if people take your attitude towards buying cigs.

And that in turn will lead to an even bigger black market.

Spastafarian

Relevant wrote: »

I'm sure you will also fly over there to get healthcare when you develop the health issues associated with smoking yes?

What?? There's health issues associated with smoking?? Why didn't anyone tell me this before!! Aaargh! Cough.. splutter!

Heisenberg.

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Gran Hermano

I believe there were/are lower limits on what you can bring back from the
newer EU states (one carton from Poland and the likes) but from Spain,
Italy, Germany, Holland and other EU countries where a carton is already less than half the Irish
price I always bring back at least 800.

If one carton saves me €40-60 on the Irish price and I bring back at least 4 cartons I can safely cover the price of a cheap flight.

If the Irish government complained about the Newry and Ikea effect
they'll soon see history repeated but with another product.

CiaranC

So is buying online legal or what?

My name is URL

Putting the price up to a tenner is criminal, never mind buying them on the black market. If the government were serious about the risks and the difficulty there is to pay for peoples treatment they should ban them outright. Instead of taking advantage of the fact that people are addicted to something that's legally sold

humanji

Why not make your own? Get a sheet of A4 paper, dye it brown with a used teabag. Cut it into little shreds. Wrap it in another bit of paper, and pop a piece of sponge in one end.

You'll save a fortune, you'll most likely cut down on the amount you smoke and you'll save the country a fortune when they don't have to pay for your medical expenses.

Or, be proud that you're supporting the Irish economy. Buy the overpriced cigarettes and everytime you light one scream out the national anthem with pride.

Gran Hermano

CiaranC wrote: »

So is buying online legal or what?

Unfortunately it is not legal, you must personally accompany any alcohol
or cigarettes you are importing from another EU country. A group of
Dutch or Belgian wine drinkers took a test case to the EU some years
back. You must also only import for personal consumption and not for
resale. The quantity must also be a 'reasonable amount', in the UK they
set this as 800 cigarettes - I have never seen Irish customs define what
is reasonable.

Doesn't mean you can't buy online though

Kinetic^

Going abroad to spain as a solution is retarded. Tax on fuel that goes into the plane,paye/prsi for the staff, airport tax, corporation tax on the profits.....ye you're really sticking it to the government! :rolleyes:

Relevant

CiaranC wrote: »

So is buying online legal or what?

It is perfectly legal. Although you will be required to pay the necessary import duties and taxes associated with them.

mc01a

i think it's stupid when the way the irish government is in trouble all they do is rase prices, but still dey hand money out in ways of benifit etc(to the people that don't deserve it)

but back to the thread, i no non smokes don't realy care, but if they do rase the price of cigs what are they goin to rase next, drink etc,


i think myself i will b reducing, if i can i will try stop,

Gran Hermano

Gran Hermano wrote: »

€2 increase on a pack will mean the Irish tax man will get LESS money from me.

That's exactly what will happen, more people will just go up north and black market sales will increase.

When will this government learn that putting prices up will not get us out of this mess, it will just worsen it :rolleyes: :mad:

tonc76

A few years ago I was regularly buying cigs online. The delivery one day was accompanied by a customs officer who demanded the duty owed in order for me to receive the package.

Sean Quagmire

I don't smoke but i think its absolute robbery, no wonder people bring so many smokes back from holidays.

Mr.Lizard

I think they should up the price to €20 a pack. For one thing it would solve all those awkward moments when someone says "can I 'borrow' a smoke?". Now you easily can reply "sure, that'll be €1 please".

Gran Hermano

Kinetic^ wrote: »

Going abroad to spain as a solution is retarded. Tax on fuel that goes into the plane,paye/prsi for the staff, airport tax, corporation tax on the profits.....ye you're really sticking it to the government! :rolleyes:

The extra €150 in my pocket after airfare is retarded? Sounds like someone
missed a day in maths class. I don't care about the tax on air fuel or such like,
I'm not paying it and the air fares are as cheap as chips.

Plus I work for a multinational company, always people flying around
Europe on business or pleasure who will bring me back a carton or two
each week. Summer time coming, loads of people going abroad on holidays
and who will happily throw a carton in their suitcase.
At €100 a carton here it'll even work out cheaper to drive to Newry.

kraggy

Relevant wrote: »

Within the EU you are

You can't. I thought so too but you can't.

Has to be a "reasonable amount".

Usually max 1000 cigs, often less.

100 packages would be 20,000.

me-skywalker

Why dont they put tax on fatty foods and mcdonalds then all the grease mongers will actually start to worry about their own health and implications than care about smokers... WE KNOW WE ARE DYING!!! big schwing we are ALL DYING!

is it illegal to grow your own tobacco? not( marijuana) actual tobacco?

i personally only buy cigs when my 'friend' has run out... €35 / €81 i know exactly where will always buy them from.

mikemac

Alcohol and tobacco allowances for travellers to Ireland from EU

Cigarettes 800
Cigarillos 400
Cigars 200
Smoking tobacco 1kg

There ya go

But wait there's more.
There is a lower limit on the countries with the cheapest prices.
A poster mentioned Riga, yep that's covered here.
Seems they've thought of everything!

There are specific limits on the amount of tobacco products allowed that have been purchased in the following EU countries:

Estonia - 200 cigarettes OR 250g smoking tobacco
Bulgaria, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia - 200 cigarettes

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/travel-to-ireland/customs_regulations_for_travellers

Kiith

mc01a wrote: »

(question time)
how many do you smoke a day?? None
and will this price now make you reduce or quit?? N/A
What do you think of this price rase now?? Fantastic!

Thats what i think.

mc01a

mc01a wrote: »

the price of cigarettes are rising again by€2, planned for next week,

for a pack of cigarettes it will now cost €10.10.

i smoke myself and i think this is f*ckin crazy. €10 for a pack of smokes, F*CK That


(question time)
how many do you smoke a day??
and will this price now make you reduce or quit??
What do you think of this price rase now??

oh and that feckin wretch from ASH etc saying it won't fuel illegal cigs, why doesn't she fuck herself off a cliff?

I am in the process of giving up (past 3 years).

Need to stay off the drink.

Boskowski

mc01a wrote: »

the price of cigarettes are rising again by€2, planned for next week,

for a pack of cigarettes it will now cost €10.10.

So where did you get this news? Unless I see it in writing I don't believe it.
Because that would actually make people quit which is not what they want.

Exneigh

Kinetic^ wrote: »

The drink will get hit as well. It's just easier to tax junkies

You're not wrong... we might even recoup the money we lost getting mugged through an aggressive taxation of Heroine and Charlie!

Mr.Lizard

me-skywalker wrote: »

Why dont they put tax on fatty foods

Have you not seen a photo of the Taoiseach or the Minister for Health?

Gran Hermano

realcam wrote: »

So where did you get this news? Unless I see it in writing I don't believe it.
Because that would actually make people quit which is not what they want.

And an increase in tobacco prices will lead to an increase in inflation
which is exactly what the government wants to avoid during pay discussions with unions and civil servants.

ASH looking for a price rise is like asking Muslims should we ban Christmas.

truecrippler

I'm so happy about the price hike. Hate when people smoke around me!!!

Smokers are jokers people.

CreepingDeath

Non-smoker and delighted at the news that cigs are up to €10 a pack.

I hope they go up €1 per year until they're phased out.

KTRIC

€8 pints of Guinness FTW

Just an idea !!

Heisenberg.

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AnonoBoy

truecrippler wrote: »

Smokers are jokers people.

See I moved in with a couple of smokers because I had been feeling a bit down and you know what? They have no good jokes. The miserable bastards haven't made me laugh once.

Feck that for a game of checkers.