Why are Gerry Ryan, Tubbers and Pat the Plank paid so much?

darkman2

Vincient Brown made the interesting remarks a few nights back asking WHY are these "stars" paid so much? He asked - is the bbc going to snatch them!? The answer is no. So WHY are these people paid so much!? It is not only them - look at Joe Duffy and some of the other presenters like Dobbo and "Miriam"(the one with 14 kids or whatever and presents Slimetime). Pat Kenny comes across as a talentless android on the Late Late. He reminds me of that guy from that film "the field" (just like the travellers in the caravans out in Finglas). Joe Duffy does 2 hours of "yeah", "yeah", "yeah" a day. He comes from Ballyfermot - he should have stayed there. The most talentless waste of space in RTE. And what about Gerry "im too good for a paycut" Ryan!? The cheek of him pontificating about "hard times" every morning on 2fm - He gets 600k a year or something of that order and comes across as just generally selfish, unpleasant and just a bit too far up his own arse.

IMO these talentless bunch should be put on the minimum wage. Of all of them only Brian Dobson seems to have any credibility.

I just cannot understand how it has got to a situation where these people are paid so much. It makes no sense.

K4t

Careful now. Joe is a man of the people.

Terry

So Duffy comes from Ballyfermot and the rest seem to be posh.
Where are the presenters supposed to come from?

Is there some specific place which would make everyone happy?

Tipsy Mac

They are paid very little compared to stars from other countries in similar lines of work. Terry Wogan for instance is on £800,000 a year, Jonathan Ross is on a £6million a year contract.

Our policticians on the other hand are paid way too much in comparison to any other non corrupt country in the world today.

Jesus Wept

A great bunch of lads..................no wait, I'm thinking of the Chinese.

mike65

Joe: "eh, we have darkman2, hello darkman2, you've noticed RTE is stuffed to the gills with underworked overpaid personalities? You think the hard-pressed licenced payer should be getting better value do you?"

darkman2

Terry wrote: »

So Duffy comes from Ballyfermot and the rest seem to be posh.
Where are the presenters supposed to come from?

Is there some specific place which would make everyone happy?

If he is so proud of it why does he not still live amongst the good people of Ballyfermot? I mean if it is such a nice place and all as he likes to portray it in his younger days every now and again. Im sure their are plenty of people in Ballyfermot that would do a better job for far less money then him. He is far from the only pretentious one in RTE.

darkman2

Tipsy Mac wrote: »

They are paid very little compared to stars from other countries in similar lines of work. Terry Wogan for instance is on £800,000 a year, Jonathan Ross is on a £6million a year contract.

From a much bigger country with genuine competition for presenters. That is the difference. This country is tiny.

K4t

Blame the managers at RTE for agreeing to pay them these obscene wages.

deadhead13

Tipsy Mac wrote: »

They are paid very little compared to stars from other countries in similar lines of work. Terry Wogan for instance is on £800,000 a year, Jonathan Ross is on a £6million a year contract.

Might have something to do with the Uk having a population approx. 15 times ours.

My name is URL

Terry wrote: »

So Duffy comes from Ballyfermot and the rest seem to be posh.
Where are the presenters supposed to come from?

Is there some specific place which would make everyone happy?

Themyscira

HarryPalmer

Tipsy Mac wrote: »

They are paid very little compared to stars from other countries in similar lines of work. Terry Wogan for instance is on £800,000 a year, Jonathan Ross is on a £6million a year contract.

Our policticians on the other hand are paid way too much in comparison to any other non corrupt country in the world today.

Thing is, their base audience is the UK and so comprises millions more people than here. Add to that global use through BBC worldwide, available all over Europe and popular in the States, and you have even more viewers. The money those guys earn is much more thinly spread than here.

Diabhal Beag

In life the biggest **** are always the most successful. FACT

HarryPalmer

Little Shyte wrote: »

In life the biggest **** are always the most successful. FACT

Can Gerry Ryan even manage that, now? I mean, how do those little arms reach over all of that blubber?

K4t

Little Shyte wrote: »

In life the biggest **** are always the most successful. FACT

No, just Ireland :rolleyes:

Jesus Wept

They are overpaid, regardless, Joe Duffy isn't obligated to live in Ballyfermot, and can still say it's a nice place, imo.
Even if he is wrong.

Mr.Lizard

I'm sure RTE have sat down and worked out how much each of these four generate for the the channel purely by who they are and then pay them accordingly. Despite the popular trend I don't really have anything particular againt Duffy, Kenny and Tubridy. Ryan on the other hand is a different kettle of fish. I sometimes like to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is just acting the role akin to an 'American 'shock jock' with the way he goes on and that he's really and alright bloke, but the majority of the time I prefer to believe that he is just an abnoxious flabby bourgeois cúnt who has his head so far up Fianna Fails arse that he could tell you right now how many fillings Brian Cowen has in his disgusting fat gob. When the revolution comes Ryan will be the first up against the wall and I'll be auctioning off a gun and bullet to all comers, I plan to retire that day a very rich individual.

Terry

Mr.Lizard wrote: »

I'm sure RTE have sat down and worked out how much each of these four generate for the the channel purely by who they are and then pay them accordingly. Despite the popular trend I don't really have anything particular againt Duffy, Kenny and Tubridy. Ryan on the other hand is a different kettle of fish. I sometimes like to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is just acting the role akin to an 'American 'shock jock' with the way he goes on and that he's really and alright bloke, but the majority of the time I prefer to believe that he is just an abnoxious flabby bourgeois cúnt who has his head so far up Fianna Fails arse that he could tell you right now how many fillings Brian Cowen has in his disgusting fat gob. When the revolution comes Ryan will be the first up against the wall and I'll be auctioning off a gun and bullet to all comers, I plan to retire that day a very rich individual.

Yeah, but then we'll have to kill you for being rich.

Mr.Lizard

Fine by me.

darkman2

Terry wrote: »

Yeah, but then we'll have to kill you for being rich.

I just want to say that the OP is a Capitalist - I believe in low tax, no health service to pay for (everyone should be private) and ruthless drive for profit and big business and how the wealth can trickle down. Don't have any truck with Socialism.

When it comes to RTE however that's a different story....I just get mad:eek:

HarryPalmer

darkman2 wrote: »

...ruthless drive for profit and big business and how the wealth can trickle down.

Satire, right? There can't honestly still be people around who - after the events of the last thirty years or so - believe this tripe, can there? In that case though, why worry? Gerry's cash will trickle back on down to you and other licence-payers, like gravy from his chin.

darkman2

HarryPalmer wrote: »

Satire, right? There can't honestly still be people around who - after the events of the last thirty years or so - believe this tripe, can there? In that case though, why worry? Gerry's cash will trickle back on down to you and other licence-payers, like gravy from his chin.

It does but his wages are tiny in the overall scheme of things. Those who work and succeed should be rewarded (except for those in RTE) - those that don't should have no safety net at all - no dole - nothing. If you fail, you fail. If I had my way all the unemployed out there would be homeless - no social housing or any welfare of any kind after a 6 month period of living off the state. Like they do in the US. All public sector assets would be privatised for competition purposes. The health service scrapped. Everyone to go private. 18 billion saved in one go. Strikes would be outlawed during this national emergency and half the civil service sacked. The rest, the politicians and all public representatives would have their wages cut by between 50 and 75%. Taxes would be cut - full fees for education brought back - and every sector of commercial life would have competition to keep wages low and workers productive. Trade Unions would no longer have a right to represent any sector (as in the US multinationals where wages are good and workers happy) etc etc. Then we are on the road to recovery.

stovelid

Terry wrote: »

Where are the presenters supposed to come from?

Is there some specific place which would make everyone happy?

The exit chute of a sausage-grinder?

FlutterinBantam

Mr.Lizard wrote: »

Ik'm sure RTE have sat down and wored out how much each of these four generate for the the channel purely by who they are and then pay them accordingly. Despite the popular trend I don't really have anything particular againt Duffy, Kenny and Tubridy. Ryan on the other hand is a different kettle of fish. I sometimes like to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is just acting the role akin to an 'American 'shock jock' with the way he goes on and that he's really and alright bloke, but the majority of the time I prefer to believe that he is just an abnoxious flabby bourgeois cúnt who has his head so far up Fianna Fails arse that he could tell you right now how many fillings Brian Cowen has in his disgusting fat gob. When the revolution comes Ryan will be the first up against the wall and I'll be auctioning off a gun and bullet to all comers, I plan to retire that day a very rich individual.

Would you ever get a lick of sense pal.

Do Dublin Bus pay the driver of the #78 by the revenue he brings in?

You get paid in the commercial world by what the opposition in the market you operate in is prepared to pay.You get paid what the going rate for the gig is.

Now call me Mr Wycliffe O'Cynical, but I can't see anyone anywhere matching even half those wages for that lot.

Would people ever wise up.

These guys & gals are ripping the knickers of us and drawing deeply,very deeply ,from the trough of John Q Taxpayer.

Jeeez ,it's so obvious it's obscene.

HarryPalmer

darkman2 wrote: »

It does but his wages are tiny in the overall scheme of things. Those who work and succeed should be rewarded (except for those in RTE) - those that don't should have no safety net at all - no dole - nothing. If you fail, you fail. If I had my way all the unemployed out there would be homeless - no social housing or any welfare of any kind after a 6 month period of living off the state. Like they do in the US. All public sector assets would be privatised for competition purposes. The health service scrapped. Everyone to go private. 18 billion saved in one go. Strikes would be outlawed during this national emergency and half the civil service sacked. The rest, the politicians and all public representatives would have their wages cut by between 50 and 75%. Taxes would be cut - full fees for education brought back - and every sector of commercial life would have competition to keep wages low and workers productive. Trade Unions would no longer have a right to represent any sector (as in the US multinationals where wages are good and workers happy) etc etc. Then we are on the road to recovery.

Very Malthusian, although we're going OT so we should leave it.
Just so long as we agree that RTE is paying these people too much.

darkman2

HarryPalmer wrote: »

Very Malthusian, although we're going OT so we should leave it.
Just so long as we agree that RTE is paying these people too much.

I was just giving a first glimpse of what my election manifesto will be like.




RTE overpaid presenters unites the country I think.

nehemiah

I would imagine that ad spaces on the Late Late would cost at least a few thousand euro considering that the show regularly draws the largest TV audiences in Ireland. Therefore I think that, as previously posted, their wages are considered in proportion to their revenue. I'm not saying I agree with it but that's the way it works.

RTE make more from Pat than Pat makes from RTE...and that's depressing!

FlutterinBantam

So Pat pays for all the production costs,the guests, the buildings, the corporate package, the back up, the rates on the grounds and transmission costs??

Deserves every cent he gets.

Mr.Lizard

The-Rigger wrote: »

Joe Duffy isn't obligated to live in Ballyfermot, and can still say it's a nice place, imo.
Even if he is wrong.

It's the only place I've been in Dublin where even the Church has mesh steel gratings on the windows.

connundrum

nehemiah wrote: »

RTE make more from Pat than Pat makes from RTE...and that's depressing!

Whereas in every other business...

thelordofcheese

darkman2 wrote: »

It does but his wages are tiny in the overall scheme of things. Those who work and succeed should be rewarded (except for those in RTE) - those that don't should have no safety net at all - no dole - nothing. If you fail, you fail. If I had my way all the unemployed out there would be homeless - no social housing or any welfare of any kind after a 6 month period of living off the state. Like they do in the US. All public sector assets would be privatised for competition purposes. The health service scrapped. Everyone to go private. 18 billion saved in one go. Strikes would be outlawed during this national emergency and half the civil service sacked. The rest, the politicians and all public representatives would have their wages cut by between 50 and 75%. Taxes would be cut - full fees for education brought back - and every sector of commercial life would have competition to keep wages low and workers productive. Trade Unions would no longer have a right to represent any sector (as in the US multinationals where wages are good and workers happy) etc etc. Then we are on the road to recovery.

I have never seen so much wrong in one post outside of the games forums.

darkman2

thelordofcheese wrote: »

I have never seen so much wrong in one post outside of the games forums.

How so? I think my plan would quickly sort the lazy and scroungers from the real workers - no? I really think it would pretty damn fast. Homelessness is not funny - threaten civil servants or a good part of the population with it and watch productivity soar and - bingo - celtic tiger x 10.


It is pure logic - be ruthless - get results. No one wants to be homeless and not have an income. This reality should be made clear to the almost 400,000 on the dole. Ditch them after 6 months - dead weight. The option should be get the fcuk out, get a job, or be on the street like in the US. Failure brings no prisoners. They should have the full reality of failure. It will save the country so much money. There will be no more strikes. Sorted.

Fulton Crown

The Debate on Tubs / Ryan/ Kenny has been covered in previous Radio forums.

Absolutely NO justification for the obscene wedge these guys are getting.

Don't blame them though - blame the spineless RTE Management - who are accountable to no one and agree to pay these over inflated salaries just for a quiet life.

Where would these guys go..answer nowhere.....Ryan and Kenny are in late middle age..Tubridy's brand would not fly anywhere outside of Ireland..although in fairness he is a good competent presenter.

Just like the fat cat bankers nobody in Government has the balls to shout STOP !

Fulton Crown

darkman2 wrote: »

How so? I think my plan would quickly sort the lazy and scroungers from the real workers - no? I really think it would pretty damn fast. Homelessness is not funny - threaten civil servants or a good part of the population with it and watch productivity soar and - bingo - celtic tiger x 10.


It is pure logic - be ruthless - get results. No one wants to be homeless and not have an income. This reality should be made clear to the almost 400,000 on the dole. Ditch them after 6 months - dead weight. The option should be get the fcuk out, get a job, or be on the street like in the US. Failure brings no prisoners. They should have the full reality of failure. It will save the country so much money. There will be no more strikes. Sorted.

If only we could persuade the freekers who would be the bosses in this scenario to resist the temptation to screw everybody right left an center,take advantage of dubious tax breaks and award themselves and their cronys ludicrous bonuses an pension deals while driving their businesses into the ground..

How would they get the GOVERNMENT on side for that kind stuff though....would be very difficult.

Mmmm.....maybe a few ould donations to party funds...a bit of a dig out if a lad was in difficulty...cash money like...how would you make contact though ? ..after all it's not as if these guys set up a tent at race meetings or the like.

Nah ! would never work.....

thelordofcheese

darkman2 wrote: »

How so? I think my plan would quickly sort the lazy and scroungers from the real workers - no?

No.
All it does is punish anyone who is poor to begin with and open them to exploitation. I assume when you were shitting out this great manifesto, you assumed you're one of the hard workers and the downside of your ill concieved ideas would never affect you. If you idolise the US system so much you should probably look a little deeper into it before claiming it's the saviour of irelands problems. The poverty in some sections of the states is as bad as any third world country.

(Thats before we the fact that this system you have such a hard-on for doesn't seem to have done anything to shield them from the same recession that's affecting everyone)

darkman2 wrote: »

I really think it would pretty damn fast. Homelessness is not funny - threaten civil servants or a good part of the population with it and watch productivity soar and - bingo - celtic tiger x 10.

Your grasp of economics is laughable. No matter how 'productive' you think you can make people by threathening them (more of a chinese tactic than the US) it doesn't matter if there is no market for what they're making/providing

Yes, the recession has not been caused laziness, likewise forcing people to conform to your idea of "productivity" won't fix it.

darkman2 wrote: »

It is pure logic -

It's pure *something* alright.

darkman2 wrote: »

be ruthless - get results. No one wants to be homeless and not have an income. This reality should be made clear to the almost 400,000 on the dole. Ditch them after 6 months - dead weight.

I've a funny feeling someones been reading ayn rand.

darkman2 wrote: »

The option should be get the fcuk out, get a job, or be on the street like in the US. Failure brings no prisoners. They should have the full reality of failure. It will save the country so much money. There will be no more strikes. Sorted.

The US can be admired for many reasons, but not the ones you've latched on.

Of course there is no chance that you'd experience the full reality of failure, would you? The arrogance is astounding, i hope for your sake this never, ever comes to fruition, because i'd hate to see you homeless in the street.

hurdehur

darkman2 wrote: »

Vincient Brown made the interesting remarks a few nights back asking WHY are these "stars" paid so much? He asked - is the bbc going to snatch them!? The answer is no. So WHY are these people paid so much!? It is not only them - look at Joe Duffy and some of the other presenters like Dobbo and "Miriam"(the one with 14 kids or whatever and presents Slimetime). Pat Kenny comes across as a talentless android on the Late Late. He reminds me of that guy from that film "the field" (just like the travellers in the caravans out in Finglas). Joe Duffy does 2 hours of "yeah", "yeah", "yeah" a day. He comes from Ballyfermot - he should have stayed there. The most talentless waste of space in RTE. And what about Gerry "im too good for a paycut" Ryan!? The cheek of him pontificating about "hard times" every morning on 2fm - He gets 600k a year or something of that order and comes across as just generally selfish, unpleasant and just a bit too far up his own arse.

IMO these talentless bunch should be put on the minimum wage. Of all of them only Brian Dobson seems to have any credibility.

I just cannot understand how it has got to a situation where these people are paid so much. It makes no sense.

Absolutely no way do any of these guys deserve anything over 500k. I blame the cozy and lazy management at RTE who are given too much licence fee to line their pockets and those of their friends. I would give PK no more than 400k, RT no more than 350k and G Ryan no more than 250k. PK is crazily overpaid for a show that is 'made' by all the infrastructure in RTE and the primetime slot it's given. The only reason I ever tune in is to see what guests are on and often enough tune right out again when no-one interesting is on. PK is a disincentive to watch it, for me.

I disagree about Brian Dobson having a major amount of credibility. He's just about ok - he's always come across as very wooden to me. The guy on TV3 (Alan Cantwell?) is much more credible, to my mind, even if he's a tad pompous. Where did TV3 find this guy that I'd never heard of before? There must be others out there that RTE could find that they could replace their big names with on a more realistic wage.

Reduce the licence fee and make the fat cats thinner!

Tech3

I cant belive a r****d like turbity can get paid so much for wafling away to a so called celeb every saturday.

RTE shouldnt be paying their "stars" so much money and instead provide us with some good entertainment not the same top gear episode we have seen about 5 years ago.

Zzippy

darkman2 wrote: »

It does ......
........drivel drivel drivel.......
...........
......... Trade Unions would no longer have a right to represent any sector (as in the US multinationals where wages are good and workers happy) etc etc. Then we are on the road to recovery.

Tell that to the workers in Dell :rolleyes:

I've never wished this on anyone, but of all the people who could lose their jobs I really hope you're first. See how far your drivel manifesto gets ya then!

Fighting Irish

I'd prefer to be fat than jealous!