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Most difficult game(s)?

  • 23-03-2009 2:08pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭


    Sorry if a similar thread exists!!!!

    Parodius Da! (Arcade) - I'm still playing this since i was 12 and havent completed it..... although I wont set it to anything but the hardest difficulty :)

    Golden Axe (Arcade) - Dam that final boss!!!!!

    Super Mario lost worlds


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I've played and beaten far tougher than that. The parodius games aren't really that tough compared to other games in the genre, although I've never attempted the hardest difficulty or tried to 1 credit it. R-type 1 and even more so 2 are tougher. I've credit fed both games on the PS1 version and never managed to beat the last bosses of either.

    The two most difficult games I've ever beat are the PS1 version of FF Tactics and Contra Hard Corps on the Mega drive.

    Final Fantasy Tactics is notoriously tough and has some really tough difficulty spikes and a few bugs that make it very difficult to beat.

    Contra HC/Probotector is just brutal. It's just extremely tough boss followed by extremely tough boss yet it is utterly brilliant. Took me a few weeks of dedicated play to get through this.

    I'm of course discounting games that are impossible to finish like Jet Set Willy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭Dexterm99


    Any coin-op game where you had to restart from a previous checkpoint is tough. Ghosts and Goblins was a good example of this. Great game but very difficult.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Jesus forgot about that. Ghosts n' Goblins was too tough for me but Ghouls n' Ghosts I managed to 1 credit after months of practice on the megadrive (very clsoe conversion I must say). Fantastic game but my god it's tough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭Dexterm99


    I managed to complete Super Ghouls and Ghosts (great port on the psp). But get this, you had to complete the game TWICE before you were finished!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭animaX


    The obvious one is Battletoads on the snes. Could only get as far as the third level (the bike race)! Also the final boss in Secret of Mana (snes) was a ridiculous spike in difficulty. Managed to kill him in the end though


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Dexterm99 wrote: »
    I managed to complete Super Ghouls and Ghosts (great port on the psp). But get this, you had to complete the game TWICE before you were finished!

    It's the same in all the Gn'G games. Didn't like the PSP port though. It relied far too much on cheap hits to increase the difficulty rather than clever level design. Also hunting for the rings was a pain to get to the last boss. I just gave up, the game was frustrating enough as is.

    Battletoads on the NES was nasty. It's actually a really easy and great game. Except for those speed bike and other speed challenges. It was just pure evil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭vangoz


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I've played and beaten far tougher than that. The parodius games aren't really that tough compared to other games in the genre, although I've never attempted the hardest difficulty or tried to 1 credit it. R-type 1 and even more so 2 are tougher. I've credit fed both games on the PS1 version and never managed to beat the last bosses of either.

    Agreed the other's are tougher but i played them on consoles first and not on arcade so they "seemed" easier:)

    The thing is, once you die once its game over because its near to impossible to build your power ups again, so even pumping extra credits in wont help.

    Sunset Riders (arcade) I found took a while to crack on 1 credit..... the fire arrow indians hiding behind rocks where motherf*ckers :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭Dexterm99


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    It's the same in all the Gn'G games. Didn't like the PSP port though. It relied far too much on cheap hits to increase the difficulty rather than clever level design. Also hunting for the rings was a pain to get to the last boss. I just gave up, the game was frustrating enough as is.

    Never having completed it in the arcades I was determined to finish it:) I thought the ability to double jump made it slightly easier. I can't remember searching for rings just a special sword?

    If there is a poll for best music in a video game then the GNG games should be right up there. The music when you die in Ghost n Goblins is just fantastic and brings back fond memories of a misspent youth. Damn. I want to play it now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭vangoz


    Dexterm99 wrote: »
    If there is a poll for best music in a video game then the GNG games should be right up there. The music when you die in Ghost n Goblins is just fantastic and brings back fond memories of a misspent youth. Damn. I want to play it now!

    The original streets of rage music gives me the goose bumps!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Dexterm99 wrote: »
    Never having completed it in the arcades I was determined to finish it:) I thought the ability to double jump made it slightly easier. I can't remember searching for rings just a special sword?

    If there is a poll for best music in a video game then the GNG games should be right up there. The music when you die in Ghost n Goblins is just fantastic and brings back fond memories of a misspent youth. Damn. I want to play it now!

    You must be on about the GBA version? The PSP Ultimate Ghosts n' Goblins had you searching for rings. Super Gn'G and the GBA version with the excellent remix mode is brilliant, as good as the original.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Warren3


    Bought Samarai Spirit 3 for the neo geo recently and it is soooo hard even on normal levels of difficulty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,604 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The Splatterhouse games.

    Although that was just because the controls were absolute bollocks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,604 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Warren3 wrote: »
    Bought Samarai Spirit 3 for the neo geo recently and it is soooo hard even on normal levels of difficulty


    God damn. You just reminded me I bought that & SSH 2 just before the PSU in my cab blew.

    Excuse me while I go cry for an hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    all The Arcade Time Crisis games..Also..Resident Evil 3 Nemesis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,604 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Ah Time Crisis games aren't hard at all! You just need to work on your ducking ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭BLITZ_Molloy


    I'm going to opt for Ghosts N' Goblins as well. If anything the only reason it's harder than Ghouls N' Ghosts is due to cheapness and slightly iffy collision detection.

    There was a list done up by people who hold records in arcade games. I can't remember where I found it. Sinistar was number 1 anyway. Defender was in there too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭kaiser soza


    Both Zelda Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy 7 were f'n difficult to beat first time with the water temple making me break at least 3 pads and stealing four long months of my life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭vangoz


    Both Zelda Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy 7 were f'n difficult to beat first time with the water temple making me break at least 3 pads and stealing four long months of my life.

    Thats a different kind of difficulty, I was more talking this kind of difficulty

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvnRBywkUZ0&feature=channel_page :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭Dexterm99


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    You must be on about the GBA version? The PSP Ultimate Ghosts n' Goblins had you searching for rings. Super Gn'G and the GBA version with the excellent remix mode is brilliant, as good as the original.

    It was definitely the psp version so it must have been rings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭Dexterm99


    o1s1n wrote: »
    The Splatterhouse games.

    Although that was just because the controls were absolute bollocks

    That was easy! I completed Splatterhouse with 3 lives (I believe you got an additional life after 100,000 points).


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 2,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭LoGiE


    Dexterm99 wrote: »
    It was definitely the psp version so it must have been rings.

    Im absolutely love all the GnG games! I thought the PSP version was excellent. Play it in Ultimate mode and you'll be tearing your hair out just like in the originals. I thought the addition of magic and the new weapons/armours/shields and secret areas added greatly to the game. I've completed it about four times now and still go back! Other difficult games from the arcade for me would be Rainbow Islands, Defender, PacLand then on the C64 Wizball along with MANY others. Project X on the Amiga along with Wings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    The Simpsons arcade game.

    My god that machine could swallow money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭djsim


    ET on the 2600:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    djsim wrote: »
    ET on the 2600:D:D


    Didn't that have a bug making it impossible to complete ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Darr3nG


    Wonderboy on the C64. There was one level where you had to time your jumps... Damn! Never did manage it.

    The Ninja on the Master System... Only game I didn't finish on that console. It had terrible graphics, sound and gameplay. But oh, so addictive because I couldn't finish it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭djsim


    Dont know about that jhegarty, but that was one game that I could never get. I remebered being suckered in by the adverts and I bought the game, what a load of crock:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭djsim


    Oh, what about Top Gun on the NES, trying to land that god damn plane:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofM11nPzFo0


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    djsim wrote: »
    Oh, what about Top Gun on the NES, trying to land that god damn plane:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofM11nPzFo0

    I thought it was brilliant when the angry videogame nerd was slagging the power glove off while playing top gun. He was there surding and swearing about how much of a piece of **** it was and then managed to land the plane while not even trying, his expression was priceless :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    Advance Wars DS
    Soviet Strike - you have to cheat to finish the last level ffs.
    Super Mario 3


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭BLITZ_Molloy


    Soviet Strike was a total bastard alright. But then I never was much good at that series. It seemed like you absolutely needed a strategy guide to know what was going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭vangoz


    Soviet Strike was a total bastard alright. But then I never was much good at that series. It seemed like you absolutely needed a strategy guide to know what was going on.

    Yeah all the strike games were a lot of flying about doing nothing... but were pretty good for the time!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭vangoz


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I thought it was brilliant when the angry videogame nerd was slagging the power glove off while playing top gun. He was there surding and swearing about how much of a piece of **** it was and then managed to land the plane while not even trying, his expression was priceless :)

    Haha yeah was wetting myself the first time i seen it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,604 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    vangoz wrote: »
    Yeah all the strike games were a lot of flying about doing nothing... but were pretty good for the time!!

    Anyone else notice that Jungle strike started off in a city and Urban Strike started off in a Jungle?

    Always wondered about that...

    Really loved those games.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Anyone else notice that Jungle strike started off in a city and Urban Strike started off in a Jungle?

    Always wondered about that...

    Really loved those games.

    Desert Strike initially starts off on a ship in the sea. Soviet Strike came out 1996/1997? The Soviet Union had collapsed in 1990 or 1991? Sorry, I'm just being pedantic now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭ro1798


    gemini wing, its the toughest game invented, started in wexford arcade still trying to this day to get past second level


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭valleyoftheunos


    Gn'G toughest game I've ever played, never got very far, still coming back for more though, even now.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    It just takes a lot of dedication. It's very manageable. You need to learn how to take out the red armourers without taking a hit though and that takes time and patience. The game gets tricky at level 4 especially the boss but level 5 is a complete bastard and took me weeks to figure out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinCool


    The arcade conversion of Green Beret for the C64 was an absolute nightmare. I never did get to complete it. Many a joystick were flung against the wall because of that game. I may take an evening and fire it up on C64S and use the save state function to see what happens when you do finally clock the f*cker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭BLITZ_Molloy


    I just thought of another one. Double Dragon on the 2600. I played it for a year solid and I got to the last boss once. It damn near killed me. Even the guy on youtube does the walkthrough says its nearly impossible.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHeARfSReT0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭jimi_t


    Ignoring the R-Types/Gradius and another tedious sidescrollers

    On PC: X-Com: Enemy Unknown on the harder difficulty levels is absolutely sick. The Fools Errand (Apple II, Amiga, 386) was unbelievable but incredibly tricky. More recently, skirmishing on the hardest setting against the computer in in Homeworld 2.

    Final boss in Megaman64. Megaman 9.

    Super G'n'G... Worrying

    Wipeout 2097 on Speed Demon Setting doing TTs. You're operating purely on muscle memory. Can't believe some people prefer F-Zero to this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭fugazied


    Without a soubt Gauntlet. I dropped a lot of coin into that game hehe x.gif


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    jimi_t wrote: »
    Ignoring the R-Types/Gradius and another tedious sidescrollers

    How dare you!
    jimi_t wrote: »
    Wipeout 2097 on Speed Demon Setting doing TTs. You're operating purely on muscle memory. Can't believe some people prefer F-Zero to this.

    Give me F-zero GX any day over Wipeout. Wiepout relies an awful lot on weapons. F-zero is about 5 times fast, relies purely on racing skill, is a bigger adrenaline rush imo and the AI never cheats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    Just remebered Terminator on the Mega-Drive. The game until the last level is a breeze, but in the final level you have to fight the Terminator in the factory. After destroying one form, he's left as this crawling machine. I could never clear it. You can't jump over him, despite the fact that your jump clearly is high enough, or shoot him away, and if you move up the wrong ladder, you'll get trapped. Grrrr!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭appleidog


    I'm not sure if it has been said but the original Teenage mutant hero/ninja turtles by Konami/Ultra. is up there with Ghouls n ghosts

    Tmnt-box.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Oh god I used to love that game. It was an absolute bastard though and designed to eat quarters. I got it on xbox live arcade recently and it really hasn't aged well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭appleidog


    Your getting mistaken with Tmnt:II the arcade game for nes/aracde/xbox360

    The one i'm talking about is
    Tmnt-2.png

    your talking about is
    tmnt2box_front.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The nes game was horrible and an absolute bastard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭appleidog


    Its a good game!. just so hard the seaweed that seaweed was controller throwing frustration.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭crxsi


    anyone remember this? this is the hardest game ever... have it on emulator, still cant get very far in it..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭BLITZ_Molloy


    CCCP^ wrote: »
    Just remebered Terminator on the Mega-Drive. The game until the last level is a breeze, but in the final level you have to fight the Terminator in the factory. After destroying one form, he's left as this crawling machine. I could never clear it. You can't jump over him, despite the fact that your jump clearly is high enough, or shoot him away, and if you move up the wrong ladder, you'll get trapped. Grrrr!

    It's a cakewalk compared to Terminator 2: Judgement Day (not The Arcade Game). I just looked it up on Youtube and was surprised to see how incredibly long and hard it is. I'd only scratched the surface and gave up because it was so frustrating.. well that and that it was a pretty **** game.


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