Does anyone else thing ADD, Aspergers and Social Anxiety disorder are all fake

Eric Cartman

this topic came up in a pub discussion the other night, i know 2 lads who claim to have aspergers (self diagnosed with an internet symptom check sheet) and it got me thinking, in the last few years these new 'conditions' have been appearing, anyone ive heard of with these 'conditions' just hides behind it as an excuse to use drugs or be a recluse or why they cant get laid , anyone else think these conditions are just a load of bull ?


*noticed the misspelling in thing, its supposed to be think, f*ck off grammer fags

Ardscoil Ris

I have super aids

Worst super power ever!

banquo

ADD yes. Asperegers no. Social anxiety yes.

Zillah

Eric Cartman wrote: »

i know 2 lads who claim to have aspergers (self diagnosed with an internet symptom check sheet)

If I self diagnosed myself as having cancer, but I didn't, would you conclude that cancer doesn't exist or that self diagnosis is foolish?

Also, this is a moronic thread.

RonMexico

ADD ADHD and all the other ****ing excuses for bad parenting - complete and utter cop out by parents who need to spend more time with their children and give them a kick up the hole when necessary.

ejmaztec

Eric Cartman wrote: »

this topic came up in a pub discussion the other night, i know 2 lads who claim to have aspergers (self diagnosed with an internet symptom check sheet) and it got me thinking, in the last few years these new 'conditions' have been appearing, anyone ive heard of with these 'conditions' just hides behind it as an excuse to use drugs or be a recluse or why they cant get laid , anyone else think these conditions are just a load of bull ?


*noticed the misspelling in thing, its supposed to be think, f*ck off grammer fags

I think that you've developed SPC, or Spelling Persecution Complex, for which there is therapy available.

Milky Moo

I think there for awhile ADD and ADHD were used as an excuse for bad parenting
'leave little billy alone he is only sticking fireworks up cats bums cause he has ADHD I cant control him he has a mental disorder!'
For those that do actually have it it's something they have to try live with and conquer not an excuse.

big b

Everything has to have a label these days, and as soona s there's a label some people will want to attach themselves (or their kids) to it to justify laziness, bad parenting or whatever.

I know one fat f*ck who is claiming social disorder (or similar) and is quite happy to spend a full day shopping in town, but claims they're too nervous in company to take a job.
C*nts like that drag down those who genuinely need help.

Eric Cartman

Zillah wrote: »

If I self diagnosed myself as having cancer, but I didn't, would you conclude that cancer doesn't exist or that self diagnosis is foolish?

Also, this is a moronic thread.

not really, its a valid AH thread, and no cancer exists and you can pick it up in scans and has physical attributes and there is medication and surgical treatments for cancer

aspergers or ADD are really just labels for bad parenting or kids who dont socialise much or are a little weird

Disease Ridden

ADD: I dont think this is a real disorder, a good fukking beating will sort out any attention problems.
Just as everybody has varying levels, for example, of intelligence and creativity, so everybody has varying spans of attention. This variation occurs naturally and I would hesitate to call ADD a disorder since it then begs the question of where along the spectrum of attention spans should the disorder be considered to be present...if you get me!!

Aspergers: I'd be inclined to believe this is a true disorder albeit not as common a disorder as medical books etc. might have us believe. I think too many social isolates spend their time diagnosing themselves with diseases like Aspergers syndrome etc rather than just having the balls to go out and face their problems. I'd imagine a lot of people who self diagnose themselves with Aspergers really suffer from this....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchhausen_syndrome

Social Anxiety Disorder: I'm not too sure about this. Like I doubt there were many people 100 years ago who would have presented the so called symptoms of this disorder, simply because society wouldnt have accomidated for it!
The problem with Social Anxiety Disorder is that the type of people who would think of themselves as suffering from it are the same type of people who would spend time on the internet researching the "disease" and further reinforcing to themselves the idea that they have the disease! All they need is to break out of their comfort zone and stop thinking they have a disease!

Hazys

Considering the fact that we have an incredibly high sucide rate in this country and the main victims are males aged 15-24, I think a lot of those guys would have suffered from Social Anxiety disorder.

Its a horrible thing to have, and people with Social Anxiety disorder generally don't go round telling people they suffer from it so if somebody is talking about it and u are not good buddies with them, they're probably talking sh1te. Its a seriously problem and shouldnt not be taken lightly.

dr.bollocko

It's hard to tell if ADD is real in any society where we are simply distracted from distraction by distractions.

Yeah.

thelordofcheese

Eric Cartman wrote: »

this topic came up in a pub discussion the other night, i know 2 lads who claim to have aspergers (self diagnosed with an internet symptom check sheet) and it got me thinking, in the last few years these new 'conditions' have been appearing, anyone ive heard of with these 'conditions' just hides behind it as an excuse to use drugs or be a recluse or why they cant get laid , anyone else think these conditions are just a load of bull ?


*noticed the misspelling in thing, its supposed to be think, f*ck off grammer fags

Your friends are idiots and should be slapped up-side the head. Self diagnosis is the forté of cretins and attention whores.

This doesn't make ADD, Aspergers or Social Anxiety disorder any less real though.

Sir Gallagher

Eric Cartman wrote: »

not really, its a valid AH thread, and no cancer exists and you can pick it up in scans and has physical attributes and there is medication and surgical treatments for cancer

aspergers or ADD are really just labels for bad parenting or kids who dont socialise much or are a little weird

Aspergers and ADD are completely different really, you should read "The Curious Incident the Dog in the Night Time" it's narrated by a 15 year old boy with aspergers/autism and gives a interesting and frightening insight into the world of the sufferer.

Ajos

They are real.

They are frequently used as excuses by/for people who do not have them.

These aren't contradictory statements.

Nolanger

Know what I hate - this modern-day psychological revisionism.
Take a famous scientist from 200 years ago.
Spends all his life alone, in a lab or visiting countries.
Makes a scientific discovery that's absolute genius.
Now we say he must have been autistic/apergers.
No - he was just a good scientist dedicated to his work.
Hate this excuse where brilliant people must have a psychological disorder because they are different.

sam34

i am a psychiatrist, and worked for some time in child psychiatry.

i am convinced that ADD/ADHD exists, but it is wildly over-diagnosed. Not so much by medics (altho they do have to take some responsibility) but by parents and schools.

it amazed me how many parents would bring their kid in for first assessment and tell me with absolute certainty that "he has the ADD thing, doctor", or "his teacher says he had ADD" .

it was frustrating and infuriating.

most of the time, these kids didnt ahve ADHD, they were simply products of bad and inconsistent parenting.

of course, the parents didnt want to hear this, and would keep telling all and sundry that the kid had ADD.

even if a kid had ADHD, that doesnt absolve parents from their responsibility, which some think it does. they still need to use good parenting techniques.

As for social anxiety disorder, yes it exists. it can be very crippling and disabling. it can ruin lives.

these days, we seem to be seeing more of these things because of teh internet - people have more access to information and more access to "self diagnosis kits".
and then you get people who have traits of an illness, but not neceaasrily the full blown disorder, who tell you thay have it beacuse they can tick one of the boxes on the form.

sam34

oh, forgot to say that yes, Asbergers and autism are very real disorders.
they are not simply labels for people who are just odd.

Milky Moo

There is some manner of benefit you recieve from having a child with ADD or ADHD some people that have brought about bad behaviour through bad parenting just see this as another payday

DeVore

I have dealt with and worked with people who were dealing with children properly diagnosed with these "disorders" (and some are simply not neuro-typical and not "disorders" at all).

There are two issues here, firstly idiots who self-diagnose from the internet... those people need to go to see a doctor, and ironically, quite possibly a psychiatrist.

Secondly the genuinely distressing "disorders" a small number of children suffer from which I can tell you are very very real.

I'm leaving this open because clearly there is a need to educate the general public if they believe these things dont exist. They do. A more interesting question is about those parents who think their children will be "more special" if they "have" one of these disorders... Munchousen By Proxy anyone?


DeV.

Eric Cartman

sam34 wrote: »

oh, forgot to say that yes, Asbergers and autism are very real disorders.
they are not simply labels for people who are just odd.

autism, definitley is, aspergers im not so sure, or like you said about ADD/ADHD is just overprescribed, or even if it is real i think people who claim to have it need a serious attitude change and to stop using it as a safety net for their own laziness/shortcomings

Karlusss

"Social anxiety disorder" is an amazing concept.

I think I have it.

Ostrom

Eric Cartman wrote: »

this topic came up in a pub discussion the other night, i know 2 lads who claim to have aspergers (self diagnosed with an internet symptom check sheet) and it got me thinking, in the last few years these new 'conditions' have been appearing, anyone ive heard of with these 'conditions' just hides behind it as an excuse to use drugs or be a recluse or why they cant get laid , anyone else think these conditions are just a load of bull ?


*noticed the misspelling in thing, its supposed to be think, f*ck off grammer fags

Whatever about the sub-classifications; anxiety in its extreme forms is crippling.

Aspergers also - anyone going on a self diagnosis deserves a slap, as do the many parents I have come across who band about terms like ADD as an opt-out from good parenting.

On the other side, I have worked with kids with a severe ADD diagnosis who obviously had serious behavioural problems beyond parenting and environment. Their behaviour was the worst I have ever seen, and their behavious toward us was on the level of autism.

sam34

Eric Cartman wrote: »

autism, definitley is, aspergers im not so sure, or like you said about ADD/ADHD is just overprescribed, or even if it is real i think people who claim to have it need a serious attitude change and to stop using it as a safety net for their own laziness/shortcomings

why the doubt about aspergers?
do you realise that it is on the same spectrum as autism?

im not sure what you mean by "shortcomings" - i'm presuming you mean impaired social functioning. but thats one of the keystones of an autistic spectrum disorder - difficulties in reciprocal social interaction, and language difficulties. thats what the disorder is. those who have it cannot do much about their symptoms.
so why do you feel people need a "serious attitude change" - do you also feel that epileptics need a serious attitude change to stop using epiliesy as a safety net excuse for having seizures???

Gyalist

The problem is that the treatment for these very real conditions is being driven by the pharmaceutical industry with the collusion of many doctors. Watch American TV for 30 minutes and it will amaze you how the drug companies push their products on you.

Eric Cartman

sam34 wrote: »

why the doubt about aspergers?
do you realise that it is on the same spectrum as autism?

im not sure what you mean by "shortcomings" - i'm presuming you mean impaired social functioning. but thats one of the keystones of an autistic spectrum disorder - difficulties in reciprocal social interaction, and language difficulties. thats what the disorder is. those who have it cannot do much about their symptoms.
so why do you feel people need a "serious attitude change" - do you also feel that epileptics need a serious attitude change to stop using epiliesy as a safety net excuse for having seizures???

i feel the serious attitude change is needed because of the way ive seen people who supposedly have this disorder go on, one of the lads mentioned above can go to a pub and hang out with people just fine, can make friends no bother , but even if girls are quite obviously into him hell just go "theres no way i could talk to her cos of my aspergers" then bitch "i dont have a girlfriend cos of my aspergers" and even blamed being bad at counter strike on having aspergers.

Snowie

Milky Moo wrote: »

I think there for awhile ADD and ADHD were used as an excuse for bad parenting
'leave little billy alone he is only sticking fireworks up cats bums cause he has ADHD I cant control him he has a mental disorder!'
For those that do actually have it it's something they have to try live with and conquer not an excuse.

Oh right add and adhd are suddenly only for parents who are bad, it could happily be to do with an actual disorder ?
I've got add i was diagnosed with it at 8 year's old, Let me see i could'nt eat chocolate i couldn't have orange i could drink coke i was on a the strictist diet known for any child sweets as a child was like giving rocket fuel to an anti christ.

Then we could disscuss, my grade's in school snowmonkey has poor concintration, in every report from the age of 5 to 16 when i left school...
How ever, you take some one with the above condition's give them a big bag of rope in a nots, they'le untangle it in half the time it takes a normal kid to why because there mently stimulated diferently.
or given them a puzzel where there using there hands again they can do it ridiculasly quickly..

the there's the troubel of exceptance as a kid and the bullying because the teacher's label you slow leave you sitting down the back of the class and paying feack all attention to you except to call you stupid... Thats from my own aexperence and many other who i know who are add, sufferer's.

there's also huge benfit's to children who suffer from these gift's they have suberb imagination skill, bag's full of creative energy. at the end of the day, add takes a long time to over come...

even something as easy as reading a book. You cleerly have no idea what the hell your talking about...:rolleyes:

sam34

Eric Cartman wrote: »

i feel the serious attitude change is needed because of the way ive seen people who supposedly have this disorder go on, one of the lads mentioned above can go to a pub and hang out with people just fine, can make friends no bother , but even if girls are quite obviously into him hell just go "theres no way i could talk to her cos of my aspergers" then bitch "i dont have a girlfriend cos of my aspergers" and even blamed being bad at counter strike on having aspergers.

dont base your opinions on one guy who claims to have an ilness based on information/tests found on the internet.

the fact that he is promoting that alone should tell you enough to question his judgement.

Eric Cartman

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Oh right add and adhd are suddenly only for parents who are bad, it could happily be to do with an actual disorder ?
I've got add i was diagnosed with it at 8 year's old, Let me see i could'nt eat chocolate i couldn't have orange i could drink coke i was on a the strictist diet known for any child sweets as a child was like giving rocket fuel to an anti christ.

Then we could disscuss, my grade's in school snowmonkey has poor concintration, in every report from the age of 5 to 16 when i left school...
How ever, you take some one with the above condition's give them a big bag of rope in a nots, they'le untangle it in half the time it takes a normal kid to why because there mently stimulated diferently.
or given them a puzzel where there using there hands again they can do it ridiculasly quickly..

the there's the troubel of exceptance as a kid and the bullying because the teacher's label you slow leave you sitting down the back of the class and paying feack all attention to you except to call you stupid... Thats from my own aexperence and many other who i know who are add, sufferer's.

there's also huge benfit's to children who suffer from these gift's they have suberb imagination skill, bag's full of creative energy. at the end of the day, add takes a long time to over come...

even something as easy as reading a book. You cleerly have no idea what the hell your talking about...:rolleyes:

dunno what school you went to, but in mine ADD/ADHD were practically a badge of honour worn by the 'cool' kids who used it as an excuse to do anything

Milky Moo

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Oh right add and adhd are suddenly only for parents who are bad, it could happily be to do with an actual disorder ?
I've got add i was diagnosed with it at 8 year's old, Let me see i could'nt eat chocolate i couldn't have orange i could drink coke i was on a the strictist diet known for any child sweets as a child was like giving rocket fuel to an anti christ.

Then we could disscuss, my grade's in school snowmonkey has poor concintration, in every report from the age of 5 to 16 when i left school...
How ever, you take some one with the above condition's give them a big bag of rope in a nots, they'le untangle it in half the time it takes a normal kid to why because there mently stimulated diferently.
or given them a puzzel where there using there hands again they can do it ridiculasly quickly..

the there's the troubel of exceptance as a kid and the bullying because the teacher's label you slow leave you sitting down the back of the class and paying feack all attention to you except to call you stupid... Thats from my own aexperence and many other who i know who are add, sufferer's.

there's also huge benfit's to children who suffer from these gift's they have suberb imagination skill, bag's full of creative energy. at the end of the day, add takes a long time to over come...

even something as easy as reading a book. You cleerly have no idea what the hell your talking about...:rolleyes:

I said ADD and ADHD was an excuse for bad parenting,a child is hyper active and won't listen to authourity he must have ADD, it's a quick solution to a problem that may not even be correct.
For those that do not it have yet are readily diagnosed with it by people who are not trained to diagnose such things i.e teachers which i have seen first hand.
I also said that this was wrong and for those that do have ADD etc they general don't use this as an excuse and try and live life in spite of it

cnocbui

A lot very ignorant posts IMO.

There was a BBC program a year or so ago about the UK's maths Olympiad team and those trying to get on it. The prospective team members featured seemed to have Apergers of varying severity. But the couple that had it bad would dispel any doubts about it being real.

Wertz

Eric Cartman wrote: »

this topic came up in a pub discussion the other night, i know 2 lads who claim to have aspergers (self diagnosed with an internet symptom check sheet)

You're sure your two mates aren't just plain old retards? They show all the classic signs...

Snowie

Milky Moo wrote: »

I said ADD and ADHD was an excuse for bad parenting,a child is hyper active and won't listen to authourity he must have ADD, it's a quick solution to a problem that may not even be correct.
For those that do not it have yet are readily diagnosed with it by people who are not trained to diagnose such things i.e teachers which i have seen first hand.
I also said that this was wrong and for those that do have ADD etc they general don't use this as an excuse and try and live life in spite of it

sorry i think i red that a bit wrong ,

*gets down on knees and hands a bokay of flowers *

Milky Moo

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

sorry i think i red that a bit wrong ,

*gets down on knees and hands a bokay of flowers *

No bother

galwaydude

This thread has to be the most stupid ones on AH in a long time. The OP shows a true lack of knowledge on the subject. Your friends are idiots if they are self subscribing themselve to have these disorders, go to the doctor. As soonone who has had alot of experience with kids with these disorders, it beggers belief the stupid statement that it is all down to bad parenting that someone made. A true lack of not knowing what the hell you are on about. Cop yourself on.

Daroxtar

ADD is just boredom ,plain and simple. Aspergers is probably real but over diagnosed. Autism is real.
When you put a child in front of an xbox and tv all evening and feed them chips and chocolate and fizzy drinks instead of putting them out in the garden to let off steam then its no wonder they have concentration problems.

Dr. Pfister, the guy who came up with most of the terminology for all these so called ailments recently said that he himself may have been too quick to try and put a label on different behavioural patterns and ended up falsley categorising what is essentially just the human condition. But if you have a pill that needs to validate its own use and a susceptible society that needs a quick fix then you end up with a scenario where people who think outside the box get stigmatised and doped up

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

BIL (Blind Ignorance and Laziness) seems to be a real disorder if this thread is anything to go by.

Has anyone claiming that the diseeases are fake done ANY research? Anyone?

Valmont

Eric Cartman wrote: »

this topic came up in a pub discussion the other night, i know 2 lads who claim to have aspergers (self diagnosed with an internet symptom check sheet) and it got me thinking, in the last few years these new 'conditions' have been appearing, anyone ive heard of with these 'conditions' just hides behind it as an excuse to use drugs or be a recluse or why they cant get laid , anyone else think these conditions are just a load of bull ?

Goodness gracious me. ADD and aspergers and indeed many other new conditions identified in the past ten or fifteen years are absolutely real. They are empirically verified and well researched conditions.

To say you don't believe in them is absolutley ridiculous and highlights a supreme ignorance, it's not like saying you ****ing believe in Santa Claus for christs sake.

ADD does have issues with being over-diagnosed but this doesn't actually take away from it's status as a legitimate disorder.

sadista

Assburgers syndrome is definitley real. watch this educational video!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jkBOU9etRA

Jumpy

I dont see what everyone is worried about, just give them Ritalin. But make sure you have some Ritalout handy.

Snowie

Daroxtar wrote: »

ADD is just boredom ,plain and simple. Aspergers is probably real but over diagnosed. Autism is real.
When you put a child in front of an xbox and tv all evening and feed them chips and chocolate and fizzy drinks instead of putting them out in the garden to let off steam then its no wonder they have concentration problems.

I was'nt aloud choky as child or any sweat's i fed apple juice and cartoned fruit juice... I was braught up in the country I ate worms like any normal kid made army base's etc .....i ran around as much but add isnt behaoural its more a concintration/ boardem...

Daroxtar wrote: »

Dr. Pfister, the guy who came up with most of the terminology for all these so called ailments recently said that he himself may have been too quick to try and put a label on different behavioural patterns and ended up falsley categorising what is essentially just the human condition. But if you have a pill that needs to validate its own use and a susceptible society that needs a quick fix then you end up with a scenario where people who think outside the box get stigmatised and doped up

well i dissagree i was never doped up ritalin was offered as prescription but my perents being good said we'd rather have a son then a zombie child, i went to a dietision who then worked in conjunction with my tester in order to acheave a balalacned diet which was meet everyday.

I agree as milkmoo said that there are case's when its, all down to just, labelling, as eric cartmen said typical idiot with absalouly no clue, of what hes talking about..

but i do belave that there are case's

but you can look at addd and in it's case's there are many different case's ..... like i had a mate ion school who had add and dyslexia just like me and his condition was more varried then mine, he was quiet where i was supper hyper and the added bonous of a tock shop ment i was super hypeer all day long...

Zillah

Eric Cartman wrote: »

aspergers or ADD are really just labels for bad parenting or kids who dont socialise much or are a little weird

Have you ever actually met a person who has been diagnosed with Aspergers by a professional? It's not just a lazy way of explaining someone who is nervous or quirky...it can be a lot more severe than that.

Your ignorance on the matter is really quite disappointing, please stop taking your idiot friends as representative of people with a genuinely troublesome neurology.

yoyo

I have aspergers and can definately confirm its real, Going through childhood suffering major depression, social anxiety is not pleasent. I have found that as I've got older and since being diagnosed, I am able to handle situations better, And getting on with life

Nick

CamperMan

big b wrote: »

Everything has to have a label these days, and as soona s there's a label some people will want to attach themselves (or their kids) to it to justify laziness, bad parenting or whatever.

I know one fat f*ck who is claiming social disorder (or similar) and is quite happy to spend a full day shopping in town, but claims they're too nervous in company to take a job.
C*nts like that drag down those who genuinely need help.

It could be the same person I know.. a fat lazy cow has spent her adult life on welfare claiming she suffers from this "social anxiety" sh!t, BO||OCKS!, she goes to every party she can go to, she throws her own parties, she goes on regular holidays, goes night clubbing every week, social anxiety my hole!!

Daroxtar

Snow monkey,

My youngest brother who is ten years younger than my second youngest had no interest in doing homework and did not mix well with the other kids in his class. Because the teacher could not force him to pay attention or interact in class he was assesed and was diagnosed as being "either ADD or aspergers" about 6 years ago. Dont you love the vagueness there. He spent 3 years going to occupational therapists and psychiatrists and everyone of them telling him there was something wrong with him and everyone of them reccomended drugs. He was 8-11 at the time. Think about that, they couldn't say what was wrong but they still wanted to try and medicate him for it. FFS, his brain was still developing, as were his social skills but some quack wanted to put chemicals into him to make him conform.

Thankfully my parents refused and reckoned that his biggest problems were living in an isolated enviornment with no one his own age to interact with and too much time playing computer games. They got him playing football and going to youth clubs and the like. When he started secondary school all his "problems" dissapeared and he is one of the most popular kids in school and his grades are excellent in all the subjects he is interested in!

I'm not saying that learning difficulties dont exist. I just think that is is dangerously wrong to tell people there is something "wrong" with them, stick a label on them and fill them with amphetimines/tranquilisers. Your parents did the right thing in keeping you away from the ritalin. Mine did the same with my brother.

P.S. does anyone remember the article about 2 years ago saying australians had discovered a new syndrome called Motivational Affliction Disorder? Seemingly it causes people to put off doing their work, makes them stay longer in bed and can in severe cases lead to "crippling levels of apathy". Worst of all it affects 30% of the population of the planet. Drugs were being tested to see what could cure this horrible disease. Call me sceptical but if 1/3 of the populace behaves in a certain way then i doubt that there is something "wrong" with them, its just the fukn way they are. And i love the name of this illness too. 1/3 of us suffer from MAD. How mad is that???

tech77

Eric Cartman wrote: »

i feel the serious attitude change is needed because of the way ive seen people who supposedly have this disorder go on, one of the lads mentioned above can go to a pub and hang out with people just fine, can make friends no bother , but even if girls are quite obviously into him hell just go "theres no way i could talk to her cos of my aspergers" then bitch "i dont have a girlfriend cos of my aspergers" and even blamed being bad at counter strike on having aspergers.

Eh, see post 15.
So to sum up:
a) They are real.
b) They are overdiagnosed/self-mis-diagnosed by morons.
WTF is difficult to understand about this.

Edit: it's "self-misdiagnose" not "mis-selfdiagnose" isn't it?

994

Disease Ridden wrote: »

Aspergers: I'd be inclined to believe this is a true disorder albeit not as common a disorder as medical books etc. might have us believe. I think too many social isolates spend their time diagnosing themselves with diseases like Aspergers syndrome etc rather than just having the balls to go out and face their problems. I'd imagine a lot of people who self diagnose themselves with Aspergers really suffer from this....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchhausen_syndrome

Aspergers definitely exists, but not without a diagnosis.

Social Anxiety Disorder: I'm not too sure about this. Like I doubt there were many people 100 years ago who would have presented the so called symptoms of this disorder, simply because society wouldnt have accomidated for it!

Actually there have always been hermits, loners and weirdos who avoided people as much as they could - e.g. Silas Marner. Society in the past wasn't half as close as you think.

Nolanger wrote: »

Know what I hate - this modern-day psychological revisionism.
Take a famous scientist from 200 years ago.
Spends all his life alone, in a lab or visiting countries.
Makes a scientific discovery that's absolute genius.
Now we say he must have been autistic/apergers.
No - he was just a good scientist dedicated to his work.
Hate this excuse where brilliant people must have a psychological disorder because they are different.

Yeah, I mean the reason Isaac Newton avoided everyone wasn't that he was ill, it was that everyone else talked about the weather and the price of eggs while he explored the origins of creation. I mean, if you lived in a world where everyone else had Down's syndrome, you'd avoid them too.

CamperMan wrote: »

It could be the same person I know.. a fat lazy cow has spent her adult life on welfare claiming she suffers from this "social anxiety" sh!t, BO||OCKS!, she goes to every party she can go to, she throws her own parties, she goes on regular holidays, goes night clubbing every week, social anxiety my hole!!

You heartless man! She's doing it to cure herself! Every party she goes to reduces her anxiety by 1%.

tbombzer

Generally when people are in an alert state their brain is in the beta range but for the Spacemonkeys with add/adhd they normally function at a aplha to thetha range making them more "Dreamy".

Brainewave entrainment is good for cognitive change.

http://www.transparentcorp.com/products/np/

RoundyMooney

Let's not forget dyslexia as both a rare, yet commonly misdiagnosed ailment.

Most of those who claim it, are either too thick to retain a spelling, or too lazy to correct one.

Neither is a disability, of any form.

CamperMan

994 wrote: »

Quote:
Originally Posted by CamperMan
It could be the same person I know.. a fat lazy cow has spent her adult life on welfare claiming she suffers from this "social anxiety" sh!t, BO||OCKS!, she goes to every party she can go to, she throws her own parties, she goes on regular holidays, goes night clubbing every week, social anxiety my hole!!



You heartless man! She's doing it to cure herself! Every party she goes to reduces her anxiety by 1%.

If that is the case, she should have been cured 100% 10 years ago with the about of socializing she does!

CamperMan

Social Anxiety Disorder.

You know, I cannot understand why that can be classed as a disability and why people can claim welfare for it.

I wonder how many of you out there genuinely get anxious going out, maybe visiting an ugly aunt that you know will give you a kiss, or facing people at work you really dislike, or going shopping on a Saturday afternoon or even going out on a date!.

Loads of people get anxious!