Rules on 3 lane highway (m7/n7)

20goto10

Zube wrote: »

Not these ones, for instance:



Which is what you quoted when you said "This is true for Ireland as well". There is no possible way someone driving at the limit will be regarded as "slow moving traffic" in Ireland.

OK sorry I didn't quite get what he meant by "or driving the limit if there is no other traffic" so I ignored it. The rest of the statement is true in Ireland.

Guy:Incognito

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

This is one thing I really noticed on three lane motorways in the UK - people keep left and move into the middle lane to overtake, then, amazingly, move back in again!!
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Funny. I noticed huge amounts of middle lane hoggers in any parts of the UK I've driven.

Zube wrote: »

Which is what you quoted when you said "This is true for Ireland as well". There is no possible way someone driving at the limit will be regarded as "slow moving traffic" in Ireland.

The problem is people are regularly drivign well under the limit. I can comfortably pass 10-20 cars without leaving the driving lane or going over the speed limit on my way to football on the M50 on a Sat between Tallaght and Liffey Valley.

L1011

Stekelly wrote: »

Funny. I noticed huge amounts of middle lane hoggers in any parts of the UK I've driven.

They exist, and I've seen them in Holland, Belgium and France now too. But nowhere near the level we've got in Ireland.

Thoie

So, what's the rule on the M50 southbound between Tallaght and Firhouse (Junctions 11 and 12)?

The inmost lane there starts as the onramp from Tallaght, and finishes as the offramp to Firhouse.

If you're starting at junction 10, you'll come down the ramp, merge right to the left hand lane. You're going on to junction 13. So, after you pass junction 11, do you merge left, stay there, and then move right as you approach junction 12 to continue straight on? Or are you supposed to do what most people do, which is stick to the middle lane for that section? The total stretch is about 1km.

P.C.

Thoie wrote: »

So, what's the rule on the M50 southbound between Tallaght and Firhouse (Junctions 11 and 12)?

The inmost lane there starts as the onramp from Tallaght, and finishes as the offramp to Firhouse.

If you're starting at junction 10, you'll come down the ramp, merge right to the left hand lane. You're going on to junction 13. So, after you pass junction 11, do you merge left, stay there, and then move right as you approach junction 12 to continue straight on? Or are you supposed to do what most people do, which is stick to the middle lane for that section? The total stretch is about 1km.

Next time you are on this section of the M50 - read the sign posts.

I think you will find it is pretty self explanitory.

20goto10

Thoie wrote: »

The inmost lane there starts as the onramp from Tallaght, and finishes as the offramp to Firhouse.

M50 lanes

Thats lane 4, or interchange lane. It's simply a long on/off ramp. It does not count when applying undertaking rules, hence the thick broken white line to seperate it from the motorway proper.

Thoie

P.C. wrote: »

Next time you are on this section of the M50 - read the sign posts.

I think you will find it is pretty self explanitory.

I did, thanks. It isn't.

While I agree with 20goto10's reading of the situation, and I think that's what most normal people would do, the fact is that for the first 700m (approx) the dashed white lines are not the normal kind seen for interchange lines, and appear pretty much the same as the normal interlane lines. About 300m before exit 12 there's a sign telling you left to Firhouse, straight on to other places.

The only other signage on that stretch is currently an orange roadworks sign informing you that there's site access ahead on the right.

P.C.

Thoie wrote: »

I did, thanks. It isn't.

While I agree with 20goto10's reading of the situation, and I think that's what most normal people would do, the fact is that for the first 700m (approx) the dashed white lines are not the normal kind seen for interchange lines, and appear pretty much the same as the normal interlane lines. About 300m before exit 12 there's a sign telling you left to Firhouse, straight on to other places.

The only other signage on that stretch is currently an orange roadworks sign informing you that there's site access ahead on the right.

I drove that way today, but as I was alone I could not take a pic of the road sign.

The road sign is a bit obscured by trees/bushes, but it is there.
It shows that the the left lane is an on/off ramp, and the two right hand lanes are the M50.

It is the same as the section from the N7 to the Cookstown exit.
I know that this section has new and better overhead signs, but when you look at them you will see that it says the M50 is still only three lanes, and not four. The on ramp that 'joins' the M50 from the N7 does not actually make up part of the M50, and is signposted accordingly.

Hopefully they will put up new and better signs between the Tallaght and Firhouse exits when they have finnished the upgrade work.