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"should be glad to have a job"....

  • 02-03-2009 1:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭


    Has anyones employer/boss said this to them recently when asking about company perks, days off, extra holidays, increase in wages/bonus/commission ect.... anything really.
    Has anyones boss layed it out to them that they should be glad that they have a job?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    Yes and I'd happened to me GF in her job as well.
    Fecking hate people using that as an excuse....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    whycliff wrote: »
    Has anyones employer/boss said this to them recently when asking about company perks, days off, extra holidays, increase in wages/bonus/commission ect.... anything really.
    Has anyones boss layed it out to them that they should be glad that they have a job?

    In many cases it is true. Employers in a lot of industries are faced with having the real cost of employees increase (via negative inflation). Small employers of skilled staff will feel this the worst. If they are being pressured to increase salaries that will make things worse.

    Especially as the average mortgage payer is c. 300 per month better off than a few months ago, many employers feel that increased wage demands are cheeky to say the least.

    PS I'm not an employer (or - generally - a sympathizer)!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Puddleduck


    Then reply with

    'Your lucky to have me as an employee'

    In my case thats not going to work, theyre still gunna turf me out in a few months..until then...Im fleecing the place


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    They have said it to me, but I'm leaving in June to go travel for a year. Have no responsibilites and have hated the place from day 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    I hear it every second day or so :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭boredatwork82


    yeah, we were all brought in 2 hours early in my weekend job. Given a big spiel about how we need to provide a better service, and to be positive and upbeat and that if we weren't we would lose our jobs, and that there was loads of people ringing looking for work. Bull Crap!!!
    At the end of the night there was no extra money for the 2 hours....needless to say, I don't work there anymore :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 377 ✭✭Irjudge1


    20% decrease in wages at the start of the year. I am glad to have a job.

    I'm in the construction sector


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    Heard it 12 YEARS ago from my last employer !!!!!!
    /Notin new TBH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,639 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Puddleduck wrote: »
    ..until then...Im fleecing the place

    Oohhh, can you aquire one of those staple removers thingies for me? I broke my last one trying to show someone how you extract venom from a snake. Cheers!

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    employers who have been forced to let people go, and have left the remaining employees with a greater work load and responsibilities, what is the incentive to get out of the bed every morning for work for no greater incentive and more "weight" on you shoulders?
    yes i am glad to have a job, dont get me wrong. But at what price. at what level of committment should you have to give before enough is enough?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    I was given a new job just after christmas. Twice as much responsibility and work, they charge me out to the client at a higher rate but I get no extra money. Something wrong with that picture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Puddleduck


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Oohhh, can you aquire one of those staple removers thingies for me? I broke my last one trying to show someone how you extract venom from a snake. Cheers!

    What coulor would you like? So far I have three, one red, and two black. I like to make them talk to each other..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    Lucky I'm selling 8 hours of myself to you for much less than the true value of my output


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Puddleduck wrote: »
    Then reply with

    'Your lucky to have me as an employee'

    In my case thats not going to work, theyre still gunna turf me out in a few months..until then...Im fleecing the place

    Maybe that's why they're gonna turf you out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Puddleduck


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Maybe that's why they're gonna turf you out

    No, Im pretty sure its coz there relocating...that or a lot of people rob stationary...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    maybe if yu came up with a cure for aids or cancer would they be lucky to have anyone as an employee, but generally at the moment everyone is depensable...
    How depressing is that? To come in everyday knowing how hard you work it wont be rewarded in any other way than keeping your job... sickening!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭eddiehead


    Ive been hearing it as long as Ive been working :confused:, never could understand why.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    'whycliff', this your boss here, I'd just like to say that because of your abuse of the workplace over the internet, that you are now fired ! Pls leave the building.
    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    'whycliff', this your boss here, I'd just like to say that because of your abuse of the workplace over the internet, that you are now fired ! Pls leave the building.
    :cool:
    GET OFF MY FACEBOOK!!!!:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    whycliff wrote: »
    Has anyones employer/boss said this to them recently when asking about company perks, days off, extra holidays, increase in wages/bonus/commission ect.... anything really.
    Has anyones boss layed it out to them that they should be glad that they have a job?


    i say it to myself all the time, im my own worst enemy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭davgtrek


    the fact is that this recession is the perfect excuse for employers ( who over the past 10 years made huge profits and paid very little tax ) to screw us even further. 20% pay cuts here for same length of week.
    unfortunately most employers think the same. bottom line profits. if that same profit cannot be achieved screw the staff.

    i wonder when things turn around how long employers will take to give back that 20% ????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Hear it the whole time.

    *yawn*
    pretty bored of it at this stage, they can say what they like. I'm still taking what I'm entitled to.
    Bullying tactics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,639 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Puddleduck wrote: »
    What coulor would you like? So far I have three, one red, and two black. I like to make them talk to each other..
    Any cance of getting one with a diamond-back motif so I can play at being a snake hunter again?
    On other stationary related issues I am creating a Dalek army outta those rubber thumb things...

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Puddleduck


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Any cance of getting one with a diamond-back motif so I can play at being a snake hunter again?
    On other stationary related issues I am creating a Dalek army outta those rubber thumb things...


    Ha no! You want a fancy smancy venom extractor then youll have to blue peter a normal one. Im making paper clip people/animals..and getting hit on by the office perv..awesome..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Puddleduck wrote: »
    Ha no! You want a fancy smancy venom extractor then youll have to blue peter a normal one. Im making paper clip people/animals..and getting hit on by the office perv..awesome..
    Why are you hitting on yourself?:confused:
    Desperate times I suppose :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Puddleduck


    Why are you hitting on yourself?:confused:
    Desperate times I suppose :pac:

    Staff cutbacks. Im also the person at the water fountain, the person that always stops you when your bursting for a pee and the kiss up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Puddleduck wrote: »
    Staff cutbacks. Im also the person at the water fountain, the person that always stops you when your bursting for a pee and the kiss up.
    So you stop people bursting for a pee and kiss up to them while perving on them?
    I like multitaskers :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Puddleduck


    So you stop people bursting for a pee and kiss up to them while perving on them?
    I like multitaskers :D

    Im here to help. Im thinking of going for a promotion and adding 'Person who looks busy while doing nothing' to my many skills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    SheroN wrote: »
    I was given a new job just after christmas. Twice as much responsibility and work, they charge me out to the client at a higher rate but I get no extra money. Something wrong with that picture.

    Now prostitution hardly has many responsibilities does it?:pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    whycliff wrote: »
    "should be glad to have a job"....

    Warning: if your boss ever says this to you, it invariably precedes a pay cut, extension of working hours or a blow-job request.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭shezzie


    must say have'nt heard those words yet from management,,,my fellow collegues are annoying in saying it at least a few times a day..in my office there is bout 8 managers to keep beedy eye on us:( not one of them says anything thankfully though they are probably under the same shadow...:)am fortunate to work for financial institution(note not for a bank)so hopefully hammer will not fall on us little people...or at least not too hard..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭Mhmm...weetabix


    Now prostitution hardly has many responsibilities does it?:pac:

    There's not even a money back guarantee for faulty goods or services :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I've heard this one used a few times - especially here lately - and I'd have to disagree.

    It's not a charity. You are being paid to do a job that requires a certain skill level. Obviously the higher the skill level, the higher the financial reward.
    In return for this, the employer gets the benefit of this experience and the time you put in to your education.

    Expecting someone to take on additional workload, extra/reduced hours, reduced salary/benefits or other changes in conditons is one thing in the current climate (within reason), but expecting them to be HAPPY about it too is a stretch too far.

    "should be glad to have a job" - how about "should be glad to have someone who'll take on this extra workload/reduced wage etc".. not that I'd advise actually saying this of course :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    davgtrek wrote: »
    the fact is that this recession is the perfect excuse for employers ( who over the past 10 years made huge profits and paid very little tax ) to screw us even further. 20% pay cuts here for same length of week.
    unfortunately most employers think the same. bottom line profits. if that same profit cannot be achieved screw the staff.

    i wonder when things turn around how long employers will take to give back that 20% ????[/quote

    True all employers are millionaires who spend most of their time sorting out their tax evasion plans.

    its a simple supply and demand situation, when we had full employment , staff had us over a barrell and some employers were royally screwed, all of a sudden staff (in some cases not all) were demanding pay increases and perks that werent deserved and taking holidays and sick days whenever it suited them and messed work around in the process.

    now the shoe is on the other foot and the slackers will be made to pay, businesses will use this to streamline their operations again.

    its a simple swings and roundabout situation and for many businesses , staff is their biggest cost and many businesses are worried.

    im not gone on the saying and would never say it to my staff , but the suddeness of the downturn has a lot of employers on the back foot.


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