Free energy suppression

espinolman

I have started this new thread because a discussion has started in another thread about this in the CT forum .
Free energy suppression is a conspiracy theory :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_energy_suppression
Please post any links into this thread regarding free energy suppression or even any links debunking this conspiracy theory .

I think its bollocks, in this day an age if someone came up with it, there is no way that it could be prevented from being released on the internet.

the first person to come up with clean and cheap energy on a scale comparable to current sources has a Nobel Prize and immortal fame coming their way, not to mention a ton of money.

meglome

On a similar topic there's a mythbusters episode about petrol myths. They tried a series of devices and additives. Not one of these worked, most were less efficient.

Diogenes

espinolman wrote: »

I have started this new thread because a discussion has started in another thread about this in the CT forum .
Free energy suppression is a conspiracy theory :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_energy_suppression
Please post any links into this thread regarding free energy suppression or even any links debunking this conspiracy theory .

Free energy is an oxymoron. Energy will always transmute into another forum, or dissipate.

Diogenes

Diogenes wrote: »

Free energy is an oxymoron. Energy will always transmute into another forum, or dissipate.

I presume he meant some form of clean, renewable energy liky hydrogen powered cars etc.

Diogenes

Deleted User wrote: »

I presume he meant some form of clean, renewable energy liky hydrogen powered cars etc.

Ah no, if you look at the link he gives he's clearly talking about technology that violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. You're giving conspiracy theorists too much credit, apparently there are ways to create perpetual motion machines, it's just the NWO don't want you to have them, because er, because they do, they're making enough money from oil okay, or something.

Never heard of Steron? a Irish company that claims it can violate the laws of conservation of motion using magnets. It's planning to release it's amazing world changing technology any day now*

* Since 2007.

bonkey

Deleted User wrote: »

I presume he meant some form of clean, renewable energy liky hydrogen powered cars etc.

Hydrogen-powered cars aren't an example of free or renewable energy, until we come up with a free, renewable way of forming hydrogen.

The closest we have to free, renewable energy that we know works are those which harness energy-sources such as solar, wind and water (conventional hydro and tidal). These technologies are, of course, not suppressed.

Diogenes

Diogenes wrote: »

Never heard of Steron? a Irish company that claims it can violate the laws of conservation of motion using magnets. It's planning to release it's amazing world changing technology any day now*

* Since 2007.

I remember them, its a pity that the light in the display case had such a grave impact on the experiment.. or something like that!

King Mob

I always wondered did the NWO/lizards/joos invent the second law of thermodynamics and the resulting mathematical and experimental evidence to cover up free energy?

Nick_oliveri

2009 is supposed to be a good year for them, so says the website anyways. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.......shame on....you get fooled once you cant get fooled again"!

GhostInTheRuins

Maybe I'm wrong but isn't this all that steorn released? Crap, useless video footage.

I remember reading not so long ago about a group that put a ring of magnets on a board and a disc with polar opposite magnets inside it and when it was spun it would continue spinning because of the constant push/pull from the magnets, but, as usual, all that was released was dark, useless youtube footage :rolleyes:

Mahatma coat

From what I know about it this Free energy is Cosmic Backround radiation, just being harnessed like we do with solar and wind, the energy is not being created out of nothing as that would go against peoples beloved laws of thermodynamics, its just bein harnesses.

I believe Tesla had a working model in the 20's and there have been a few more variants on the design, all suppressed, over the years, like the engines that can 1000 miles on a cup of tapwater, where the designer goes public he and his vehicle have a nasty 'accident' shortly afterwards.

King Mob

Mahatma coat wrote: »

From what I know about it this Free energy is Cosmic Backround radiation, just being harnessed like we do with solar and wind, the energy is not being created out of nothing as that would go against peoples beloved laws of thermodynamics, its just bein harnesses.

Well first off there are no free energy devices that actually work in the first place to even support that idea.
Second noone who builds these thing ever claim anything like that.
And third how do you propose that a device with absolutely no components that would react in anyway to cosmic background radiation, turns said radiation into measurable power?
And why would they suppress this technology when they stand to make absurd amounts of money from it?

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I believe Tesla had a working model in the 20's

Yea just like Edison's telephone that allowed you to talk to the dead.

Mahatma coat wrote: »

and there have been a few more variants on the design, all suppressed, over the years, like the engines that can 1000 miles on a cup of tapwater, where the designer goes public he and his vehicle have a nasty 'accident' shortly afterwards.

And what leads you to this conclusion exactly?
Have you tested these "engines that can 1000 miles on a cup of tapwater"?

Have you any source showing the inventor of such an engine died shortly afterwards let alone murdered to suppress the invention?

espinolman

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I believe Tesla had a working model in the 20's and there have been a few more variants on the design, all suppressed, over the years, like the engines that can 1000 miles on a cup of tapwater, where the designer goes public he and his vehicle have a nasty 'accident' shortly afterwards.

From my understanding of studying this subject i think anyone can build these devices' and power their homes' and cars for free as long as they don't tell anyone about it .

Time Magazine

espinolman wrote: »

From my understanding of studying this subject i think anyone can build these devices' and power their homes' and cars for free as long as they don't tell anyone about it .

But let me guess, you're not going to tell us how?

King Mob

espinolman wrote: »

From my understanding of studying this subject i think anyone can build these devices' and power their homes' and cars for free as long as they don't tell anyone about it .

And you come to this conclusion despite the lack of anything resembling evidence that these devices work plus the mountain of evidence show such devices cannot work because........??

espinolman

King Mob wrote: »

And you come to this conclusion despite the lack of anything resembling evidence that these devices work plus the mountain of evidence show such devices cannot work because........??

Look if you know there is evidence these devices cannot work then why don't you post links to it , there is so many on the internet that i think at least some of them probably work.

King Mob

espinolman wrote: »

Look if you know there is evidence these devices cannot work then why don't you post links to it ,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_thermodynamics

particularly this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics

It's funny that you ask me for evidence that they can't work, yet you haven't shown anything to show that they do.

espinolman wrote: »

there is so many on the internet that i think at least some of them probably work.

Well there's alot of psychics on the internet too therefore they must work as well.

Is that your only reason you believe that these things can work? It is on the internet?

espinolman

The Economist wrote: »

But let me guess, you're not going to tell us how?

Here is a book on how to:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/

Diogenes

Mahatma coat wrote: »

From what I know about it this Free energy is Cosmic Backround radiation, just being harnessed like we do with solar and wind, the energy is not being created out of nothing as that would go against peoples beloved laws of thermodynamics, its just bein harnesses.

So essentially we could harness it via magic. There is background radiation everywhere, however you'd expend more energy transforming this radiation into a power source than you could generate from the source.

Or how exactly do you think this works?

I believe Tesla

Ah Tesla the 21st century's Merlin.

had a working model in the 20's and there have been a few more variants on the design, all suppressed, over the years,

Can I ask a simple question, why suppress it? Why? Anyone in possession of such technology would be wealthy and powerful beyond imagination, further it would in a stroke element much of the resource hungry resource wastes on our planet, raising the living standards of our race.

If we could do this in the 20s we could already be colonising Mars.

like the engines that can 1000 miles on a cup of tapwater, where the designer goes public he and his vehicle have a nasty 'accident' shortly afterwards.

Funny that, same thing happens to the poor buggers who find atlantis.

Espionalman wrote:

Look if you know there is evidence these devices cannot work then why don't you post links to it ,

I would suggest you merely pick up a junior or leaving cert physics text book, they'll adequately explain why such a machine would violate the laws of physics.

"AH HA" you'll say, "But Science has been wrong before!", and we will say "Fair enough, but science is man enough to admit it is wrong, when it is wrong, so show us evidence that these laws are incorrect, build a working model of your machine, explain it, so we can revise our laws"

Cue Tumbleweed.

there is so many on the internet that i think at least some of them probably work.

There are also loads of herbal viagra, hot sexy lesbians waiting to speak to me, a nigerian prince, and a scottish missionary, as well as an Ethopian Diplomat who all need my help with an urgent and mutually beneficial financial proposition. And thats just in my spam box.

Build one of these machines, if they are widespread across the interweb, than they cannot be being suppressed, now can they. Build one, take it to Oslo and ask for your Nobel Prize to be coloured green, and the giant 60ft tall statute of you to be engraved with the plaque 'Greatest scientific contribution to humanity, like evah!"

King Mob

espinolman wrote: »

Here is a book on how to:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/

Have you tested any of these at all?
Has anyone?

Pride Fighter

Diogenes wrote: »

Free energy is an oxymoron. Energy will always transmute into another forum, or dissipate.

The worlds first fusion power plant will be finished in 2018 so we may be close to free energy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

King Mob

Pride Fighter wrote: »

The worlds first fusion power plant will be finished in 2018 so we may be close to free energy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

Dude, fusion requires fuel thus is by definition not free energy.

Cheaper and cleaner definitely but not free.

Also not suppressed in the slightest just underfunded.

Pride Fighter

King Mob wrote: »

Dude, fusion requires fuel thus is by definition not free energy.

Cheaper and cleaner definitely but not free.

Also not suppressed in the slightest just underfunded.

It is almost free. The fuel source is found in water, the only expense is extracting deuterium and tritium from seawater.

King Mob

Pride Fighter wrote: »

It is almost free. The fuel source is found in water, the only expense is extracting deuterium and tritium from seawater.

Which isn't free.

The free energy devices we're talking about are ones that are claimed to defy the law of thermodynamics.

Free as in requiring no fuel or input or produceing more than is put in.
Not free as in giving it away.

Pride Fighter

King Mob wrote: »

Which isn't free.

The free energy devices we're talking about are ones that are claimed to defy the law of thermodynamics.

Free as in requiring no fuel or input or produceing more than is put in.
Not free as in giving it away.

Oh like those bullshitters that claimed to invent a perpetual energy device. I LOLed when I saw them on the news.

King Mob

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Oh like those bullshitters that claimed to invent a perpetual energy device. I LOLed when I saw them on the news.

Precisely.
Perpetual motion and free energy are pretty much the same thing. and are both impossible.

King Mob

espinolman wrote: »

No that is definitely not the thing to do , we are not living in a free world .

So how do you know that you wouldn't be allowed to build one of these machines?

Mahatma coat

the Joe Cell

this does work

http://pesn.com/2006/04/16/9600261_Joe_Cell_instructions/

this is a good source of info
http://panaceauniversity.org/

King Mob

Mahatma coat wrote: »

the Joe Cell

this does work

http://pesn.com/2006/04/16/9600261_Joe_Cell_instructions/

And you know it works because......?

Diogenes

Mahatma coat wrote: »

the Joe Cell

this does work

http://pesn.com/2006/04/16/9600261_Joe_Cell_instructions/

the idea is to form a polarity on each cylinder, so that they are positive on the outside and negative on the inside at the lowest point. Some cells that leak or lose charge can be remedied and be maintained by a 1.5-volt battery, which is not drained in the process. It just serves as a potential (polarity) reference. Adding to the apparent quirkiness of the technology, Stevens has noted that this booster charge seems to be dependent on lunar cycles, and is not necessary during some moon phases. However, the comeback is that this is not quirkiness, but further evidence for the Electric Cosmos concept, in which all planets, moons, comets and stars are recognized as interacting electrically.

Do you want me to list off the thngs that are wrong with this concept. Lets start by saying "Quirky" ain't a word that usually acceptable in science.

Scientist 1 "Hey in my lab water boils at 80c only'

Scientist 2 "Wow isn't that quirky"

Scientist 3 "yes the quirkiness is amazing".

:rolleyes: