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Abduction Phenomenon

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Lobelia Overhill


    Deki wrote: »
    Anyone have any waking abduction stories?

    Wasn't there a case where someone (a politician IIRC) saw a woman being abducted from her apartment one night?

    or was that debunked?

    Anything that happened to me happened without my knowing about it, I was only ever left with physical "evidence" :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    Wasn't there a case where someone (a politician IIRC) saw a woman being abducted from her apartment one night?

    or was that debunked?

    Anything that happened to me happened without my knowing about it, I was only ever left with physical "evidence" :)
    there was, [evidence]:) do you know more about that case!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭Duff


    jonbravo wrote: »
    there was, [evidence]:) do you know more about that case!?

    Is this the case where a NY politican was a witness


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    given the options, sexual abuse or alien abduction? I'll stick with the alien abduction! kplzthnx :D


    Thats a great theory , maybe there is no such thing as sexual abuse either. People are just falling on their hole and screaming rape in the fear of ridicule for being clumsey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Lobelia Overhill


    Duff wrote: »
    Is this the case where a NY politican was a witness

    Yes, I don't remember the whole thing, but he supposedly saw a woman being taken from her apartment while being driven home one evening. I got the impression it'd been debunked at some point in time ...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    Yes, I don't remember the whole thing, but he supposedly saw a woman being taken from her apartment while being driven home one evening. I got the impression it'd been debunked at some point in time ...
    november 30th 1989 3:00 a.m.
    ufo over NYC the case of linda cortile

    on the nite of november 30th 1989 richard and dan [who said they were police officer's and wrote to ufologist, budd hopkins regarding the ufo and the woman they seen being adbucted]but we only have there first names which is suspicious.

    the mystery man, many suggest the police officer's were escorting Perez de cuellar ,then secretary general of the united nations...he has never spoken about it.
    but there are multiple witnesses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    I can't believe I haven't been obducted yet, not once in my life:eek:

    Although did have a dream where they want to access my mind via that way interdimensionally, it was over my dead body:mad: I stopped the dream or whatever that was.

    So that was the only experience's I've had. I'm not sure what to make of all these abduction experiences. There has to be something other than taking people into spaceships at random. Like what are the simalarities between the abductees.

    Bear in mind guys a good 30percent of them are away in the fairies, why I say that, I've seen bagillon cases in America where all the hillybillys claim to have been abducted did it for the craic of fame and fortune. for every Abduction report out of 10, I'd say nearly half of them are imaginary or fake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44,501 ✭✭✭✭Deki


    I think probably the "fame" might be a reason not to tell anyone. If I saw or experienced something that was just "too weird" I think I'd have to think about it a long while before telling the public. The trauma of something like that happening in the first place would have me freakin out let alone my friends and neighbors laughing and calling me a looney. Why would anyone want to set themselves up for that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    mysterious wrote: »
    I can't believe I haven't been obducted yet, not once in my life:eek:

    Although did have a dream where they want to access my mind via that way interdimensionally, it was over my dead body:mad: I stopped the dream or whatever that was.

    So that was the only experience's I've had. I'm not sure what to make of all these abduction experiences. There has to be something other than taking people into spaceships at random. Like what are the simalarities between the abductees.

    Bear in mind guys a good 30percent of them are away in the fairies, why I say that, I've seen bagillon cases in America where all the hillybillys claim to have been abducted did it for the craic of fame and fortune. for every Abduction report out of 10, I'd say nearly half of them are imaginary or fake.
    THOUSANDS of people claim to have being abducted by aliens ,so can you really be sure it won't happen to you!? they haven't harmed us yet just kidnapped before ha.


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    Deki wrote: »
    I think probably the "fame" might be a reason not to tell anyone. If I saw or experienced something that was just "too weird" I think I'd have to think about it a long while before telling the public. The trauma of something like that happening in the first place would have me freakin out let alone my friends and neighbors laughing and calling me a looney. Why would anyone want to set themselves up for that?
    this post reminds me of this....

    something was out here. the dog was howling and barking wildly.
    Mr sutton thought it might be a stranger approaching the farm house. the dog wouldn't act like that, if a friend was coming by, also the farm house was full that nite the sutton's were entertaining their friends billy ray and june taylor.
    in all their were eight adults and three children who would witness the horror's the night was to bring.
    at around 7:00 p.m, billy ray came in from the yard claiming he had seen a bright object in a dried up riverbed nearby....but no one believed him.

    Around one hour later Mr sutton came to believe something was really wrong so he decided to go outside and investigate and billy ray was with him.
    outside in the yard they looked around to see what was upsetting the dog .in the distance across a field they caught sight of a strange light gradually approaching the farm .
    as the light came closer the men were amazed by what they saw,a creature only 3ft tall.
    terrified the men sped back to the house cowering in the door way, they fired at the creature it was thrown back somersaulting throught the air into the darkness.
    ray and sutton realized the bullets had ricocheted off the being.
    They rushed into the house and threw their combined weight against the door to keep it shut.as they panted trying to catch their breath they heard one of the children scream.
    the men ren into the kitchen and saw a alien creature staring in at the window, sutton fired and the thing disappeared into the gloom,
    ray went to check the body as he stepped onto the porch, sutton rushed ray back inside as the creature was still alive.
    Everybody listened in stunned silence as their could hear scratching and scampering above on the roof,
    sutton re-loaded and stormed outside and blasted at the creature yet the creature seemed un-harmed.

    they were besieged......

    For three hours everyone inside waited for the nightmare to end
    by 11:00 they decided one the count of three everyone would burst out of the door and to the parked cars, as they did and sped 10 mile to hopkinsville and piled into the police station....

    The suttons suffered from the publicity surrounding events john sutton lost his job and local people were hostile to them

    sutton farm,kelly,near hopkinsville,kentucky,usa.....August 21st, 1955.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Lobelia Overhill


    jonbravo wrote: »
    november 30th 1989 3:00 a.m.
    ufo over NYC the case of linda cortile

    on the nite of november 30th 1989 richard and dan [who said they were police officer's and wrote to ufologist, budd hopkins regarding the ufo and the woman they seen being adbucted]but we only have there first names which is suspicious.

    the mystery man, many suggest the police officer's were escorting Perez de cuellar ,then secretary general of the united nations...he has never spoken about it.
    but there are multiple witnesses.

    *ding* that's the bunny! I think there was something about them not being able to give their full names for security reasons ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    *ding* that's the bunny! I think there was something about them not being able to give their full names for security reasons ...
    theres still more to that case i didnt point it all out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Lobelia Overhill


    ah g'wan and tell us the rest of it!! I can only remember the vague details of people in a car seeing something and not being able to say anything for security reasons ...

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    jonbravo wrote: »
    THOUSANDS of people claim to have being abducted by aliens ,so can you really be sure it won't happen to you!? they haven't harmed us yet just kidnapped before ha.

    Yes of course, but alot of it is bull****. Seriously I'd believe the government would be more inclined to abduct people than these aliens.

    My question is this, What speciality do you need to have to be abducted. People tell me I'm not from this planet. How come my hybrid bloood hasn't been on the drip yet? What do you need to be in order for the greys and plieadians to come for you.

    I know the galaxy is teeming with life, and has 200billion stars, why like this, why is it secretive, why abduct some people and not others. Why let them live and have them with the memories.

    Have there been any studies into this.
    The only vague study I've read, was that most people with RH - blood are more likely to be abducted than apes like me. O positive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    mysterious wrote: »
    Yes of course, but alot of it is bull****. Seriously I'd believe the government would be more inclined to abduct people than these aliens.

    My question is this, What speciality do you need to have to be abducted. People tell me I'm not from this planet. How come my hybrid bloood hasn't been on the drip yet? What do you need to be in order for the greys and plieadians to come for you.

    I know the galaxy is teeming with life, and has 200billion stars, why like this, why is it secretive, why abduct some people and not others. Why let them live and have them with the memories.

    Have there been any studies into this.
    The only vague study I've read, was that most people with RH - blood are more likely to be abducted than apes like me. O positive.
    you question is something thats unknown to this day.
    Its common for the person to have never seen a UFO before, never mind think they had a abduction.
    theres an abduction lecture by budd hopkins, someone asks that very question 1hour:41min:53seconds in if you dont want to look at the full thing.
    abductions seem to be something you cant see in lots of case's, but not in linda cortile's case. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8263911612887419105


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    ah g'wan and tell us the rest of it!! I can only remember the vague details of people in a car seeing something and not being able to say anything for security reasons ...

    :)
    under hypnosis linda recalled the night of 30th novmber 1989.

    she woke to find four creature's in her bedroom that nite, she couldnt move,
    all together they drifted through the window as if it wasn't there, in a blue beam of light to a craft above the rooftops[the apartment was 12 floors above].
    15 mouths later richard and dan[police officers that wrote to budd] this is what they wrote.
    everything was going smoothly until they crossed brooklyn bridge suddenly the engine of the limousine they were using cut out ,as they sat mystified in the silent car both the police officers and there important passenger saw an incredible sight.
    high above them a women in a flowing white nightgown drifted through the night sky into a spacecraft. once disappeared inside the spacecraft the ufo sped away over the city toward the east river without slowing down it plunged under the surface of the water and disappeared,richard and dan waited ,watching the river for nearly an hour worried for the womens safety.
    in november 1991, another letter arrived. this time from janet kimble
    she explained that on that night she was driving on brooklyn bridge and again the engine thing happened again.
    janet realized that all the lights were out on the bridge,all cars also on the bridge were stoped,in short the storys all matched each other,
    An alien abduction witnessed by several unconnected individuals is a rare occurrence, there are certain factors which make the stories of the four witnesses less convincing then they might appear at first.

    my last post[above] theres a link to budd hopkins,this story comes up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Woger


    In fairness that kind of thing happens in New York all the time so no-one would pay any attention.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 202 ✭✭scully74


    i suffer from sleep paralysis, its scary, i am very interested in the ufo stuff, i do believe you could mistake it for abduction. once i felt like i was been pulled out of bottom of bed, and i could feel the covers sliding underneath me.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Woger


    scully74 wrote: »
    i suffer from sleep paralysis, its scary, i am very interested in the ufo stuff, i do believe you could mistake it for abduction. once i felt like i was been pulled out of bottom of bed, and i could feel the covers sliding underneath me.....

    Did you have an Indian take away before?:eek:
    Seriously, those night terrors where you think someone is smothering you are freaky too, I can see how extreme cases of this can lead to the incubus/sucubus myths.


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    scully74 wrote: »
    i suffer from sleep paralysis, its scary, i am very interested in the ufo stuff, i do believe you could mistake it for abduction. once i felt like i was been pulled out of bottom of bed, and i could feel the covers sliding underneath me.....
    i believe you could mis-take it as an abduction but take note that most person's think its a ghost/spirit also,there's some interesting stuff in the links.
    i also just have an interest in the subject.....what/how do you feel when you think of the word abduction!?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Woger


    jonbravo wrote: »
    i believe you could mis-take it as an abduction but take note that most person's think its a ghost/spirit also,there's some interesting stuff in the links.
    i also just have an interest in the subject.....what/how do you feel when you think of the word abduction!?

    To paraphrase Gregory House
    it's not that I done't belive in extra terrestial life, I just don't believe they came all the way here to stick things up our ass


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 202 ✭✭scully74


    jonbravo wrote: »
    i believe you could mis-take it as an abduction but take note that most person's think its a ghost/spirit also,there's some interesting stuff in the links.
    i also just have an interest in the subject.....what/how do you feel when you think of the word abduction!?

    me, my brother and sister all have sleep paralysis, i know am not been abducted, because i asked my wife, when i woke up, did she notice anything odd, she said i was making noise like a bad dream:rolleyes:
    but it is odd to be able to feel the covers move underneath as id you been pulled over them:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    scully74 wrote: »
    me, my brother and sister all have sleep paralysis, i know am not been abducted, because i asked my wife, when i woke up, did she notice anything odd, she said i was making noise like a bad dream:rolleyes:
    but it is odd to be able to feel the covers move underneath as id you been pulled over them:eek:
    my question was, how or what do you think of alien abduction!??;), i know why you have an interest in this subject....


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    Woger wrote: »
    To paraphrase Gregory House
    it's not that I done't belive in extra terrestial life, I just don't believe they came all the way here to stick things up our ass
    i welcome your opinion and what you believe.......but i don't care to answer that woger.
    why do you think adbuction phenomenon is silly or do you!?

    The more i learn about the subject the less funny it become's.....
    [i get the funny side by the way in the stories also but it doesn't add anything.]
    by you posting there, i can tell its of interest to you!?[and i mean the subject].


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Lobelia Overhill


    I've had several bouts of sleep paralysis, I've never thought it was alien abduction tho.... First time it happened I thought I was having a stroke!

    Strange bruises and unaccountable injuries, I blame the aliens every time!


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its just sleep paralysis.
    otherwise,wouldnt the neighbours be woken up????


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mysterious wrote: »
    I can't believe I haven't been obducted yet, not once in my life:eek:

    Although did have a dream where they want to access my mind via that way interdimensionally, it was over my dead body:mad: I stopped the dream or whatever that was.

    So that was the only experience's I've had. I'm not sure what to make of all these abduction experiences. There has to be something other than taking people into spaceships at random. Like what are the simalarities between the abductees.

    Bear in mind guys a good 30percent of them are away in the fairies, why I say that, I've seen bagillon cases in America where all the hillybillys claim to have been abducted did it for the craic of fame and fortune. for every Abduction report out of 10, I'd say nearly half of them are imaginary or fake.


    But yet you believe in Reptilians? Thats strange isnt it?

    SO why is it that its ok for you to believe AND claim to have seen reptilians, yet people who claim abduction are in your opinion away with the fairys?


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Its just sleep paralysis.
    otherwise,wouldnt the neighbours be woken up????
    i wouldnt think it would be that hard not to be heard..........how come so many people have the same creature in mind!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    hi all.......

    im looking for info about this abduction case can anyone help me out!?
    Barbara archer, was just sixteen in 1982 when she was abducted inside her own home one nite, she noticed a light coming through the window while checking the other window to find the source of the light she began to feel a strange sensation that there was someone else in the room with her.....it wasnt the first time barbara was abducted.
    she also recalled later being abducted at the age of twelve.
    at the age of 21 barbara went on holiday to [wait for it] Ireland were she was abducted again....
    so barbara archer is her name but cant find much about this case!?


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